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Summer Lesson is only a tech demo.
Harada needs more people to show demand before he can make it a full game.
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>>321829701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIl2-5f8NTo
Is 1.5 million views and 10,000 likes not enough for him?
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>>321830071
That's still just for the tech demo itself, he means specifically demand to expand it to a full game.
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>>321829701

He needs to release the tech demo so people can try it out first.
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>>321830264
That's kind of hard to do with PSVR not even having a launch date.

It's been at most game events and conventions as far as I know.
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>>321830196
How else are people supposed to show demand?
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>>321830751
Spam twitter
Spam Facebook
Petition
Spam Namco support
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>>321830751
Actually asking for him to make it a full game.
People just assumed it was going to be a game from the start so they didn't think it needed to be asked.
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>>321830909
So who's going to ask? I don't have a twitter account.
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>>321829701
fuck why can't i just teach kazuya english already
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>>321832312
I'm just trying to spread the info right now, most people still probably assume a full game is coming so if news sites report that it's actually just a tech demo and people need to yell at him, he'll get plenty of yelling.
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>>321829701
>full game

Why not sell it like a tech demo for $5 or $10 and see how it goes.
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>>321829701
>you will never bully her
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>>321833208
>selling a 5 minute tech demo for $5
Not happening. He'd have to hand it out for free.
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>>321830196
Again isn't Summer Lesson the only fucking video of Bandai Youtube channel to ever reach 1.5M views?

I mean sure all the people that watch that aren't interested at all in the game.

I feel this is a ruse made by the Jap government to avoid extinction.
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>>321833408
Yeah I guess, it could backfire and make people lose interest although I doubt people buying the first VR kits are picky spending money.
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>>321833556
Again that's probably not how they see it, given that the only news that it's not an actual game is a random tidbit from a small Tekken fan site writer, they probably have no idea just how many people think it's a full game and are judging it based on that, they just see approval of a random tech demo, that doesn't necessarily translate into interest for a full game in the eyes of the Execs.
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>>321833408
you right, that's outrageous for mobile pricing
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>>321833408
Dude if someone is buying a VR headset or have one now they are sure as hell aren't price sensitive about anything.
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>>321833997
For things like this, would a petition work? I'd help post and spread it.
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>>321830071
>"An experience like you never had before"

How do they know?
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>>321834246
I can make a petition, but I'm tweeting at harada and murray for clarification, making sure they know that the huge amount of hyped fans on the trailer videos already think this is a trailer for a full game.
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Is this an h-game? If not then I'm out
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>improve your gitah performance
>receive SUGOI SUGOI
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>>321834514
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>>321834443
Good idea. If it's indeed the worst case, then we need to get support ASAP. The sooner execs can wind other contracts down or divert resources, the better.
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>>321834739
Once I get clarification most news sites will likely report on it, Wonkey is trustworthy but he probably isn't considered a real source by news sites.
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>>321830909
actually Harada gets pissy when people make 20 accounts and spam him with same shit.
More likely it's about creating more buzz, and spreading info, maybe asking Bamco for the game. Harada himself cant make it happen no matter how much you spam him.
Writing your experiences with the game is also fine, but most people go with "Hey, you gook fuck, gibe me your game".
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Literally E-begging. Why is this allowed?
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>>321834913
Hopefully. The "waifu age" will not be stopped. We will not let it.
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>>321829701
WOAH HOLY FUCKKKKK

you don't say.

I thought a 4 minute interactive cutscene was going to be a full game. I WAS DECEIVED

seriously, who ever thought this was a full game?
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>>321835163
I don't necessarily mean spamming his twitter, a petition is probably better.
He himself can't make it happen but keep in mind it's his passion project, if he gets evidence that tons of people want a full game, he'll be the first to show that to his bosses, there's no doubt that he wants it to be greenlit just as much as we do, he's a huge waifufag after all.
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>>321835516
>seriously, who ever thought this was a full game?
Literally everyone but you.
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>>321834514
>improve your gitah performance

I want to improve my strumming technique on her g string, if you know what I mean.
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>>321835163
He specifically said that HE has to hear more support for it.
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>>321835669
Man, you guys are stupid then

He made 2 tech demos for PS VR.
Did he ever hint at developing a full teach-her-english/nippon game?

Why would you eve think it would e a full game?

I can't grasp your train of thought
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>>321837089
Because everyone reporting on the game talked as if it was a full game in development.
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>presents it with the Steam logo
>then proceeds to declare the game is Sony VR exclusive
>then proceeds to beg people or he will hold the game hostage

What the fuck is wrong with those old coot Japanese devs?

Bunch of retarded fucks.
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>>321837369
>Because everyone reporting (..)

I'm still looking for any meaningful hints at full game development
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I legitimately think Summer Lesson could be the PSVR's killer app if it came bundled with it
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Put it on the PC vr headsets as well. I don't want some sony branded shit where I won't even get to play porn games.
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>>321837769
It was mentioned in gameinformer as a full game in development.
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>>321837598
>presents it with the Steam logo
When was this?

>>321837769
You need to be expressly told that a game being reported on is going to be released as a product?
Bandai Namco official outlets are the only places that even used the term tech demo.
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>>321829701
So we Project Milo now?
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>>321837598
Japanese still not as friendly with the PC. Most of their gamers play in arcades or with consoles. Or mobile.

Ultimately, it comes down to western support.
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>>321829701
Look, Harada, if you want me to tweet you a video of me jacking it to your trailer just say so.
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>>321837913
>gameinformer
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/09/18/my-baffling-japanese-playstation-vr-experience.aspx?PostPageIndex=2

that is the only thing I found about it.
He mentions "demo/demonstration" almost as much as "summer lesson"

>>321837985
>You need to be expressly told that a game being reported on is going to be released as a product?
yes. I do.
PSVR booths are always full of demos. Like London Heist. None of them, as far as I'm aware, will be full-fledged games. The only full-er experiences have been clearly announced as such on stage.

Why would you assume Summer Lesson, one of the 7 or 8 demos, would be a full game?

>Bandai Namco official outlets are the only places that even used the term tech demo.
Apparently not, only from looking at the gameinformer article there was already a lot of "demo" thrown in
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>>321838741
>Demo
>Tech Demo
Very different things

The only time he mentions Tech Demo is when he said it's not something he will want to pay money for, as if there is some sort of full release that he's expecting will cost money.
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>>321838741
>The only full-er experiences have been clearly announced as such on stage.
You do realize that Summer Lesson trailers were shown on stage, right?
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>>321838741
London Heist did get a confirmation of becoming a full game, it was listed in the PSVR games compliation video at PGW/PSX.
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>>321838741
If most people assumed it was going to be a full game, they have a communication problem, if you were more attentive about some specific wording than most people, that's great, but it doesn't really help the situation for Bamco or anyone else.
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>>321837904
It's not even a porn game...
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>>321838741
It was posted as part of a list in their official magazine. Here's a rip that includes it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Tyw1zvWd5CcTdFV1pwNXZJT2s/view?pref=2&pli=1
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>>321839180
I do. And it wasn't stated that it would be a full game. Plenty of other demos were also announced, such as flying and walking simulators.

While full games were obvious. like Rockband, FF14, AceCombat7, Rez, GTsport or Psychonauts

SummerLesson was in no way in a dubious cloud of "Hmmmm is it a full game, or just a 5 minute interactive cutscene thing?" like Golem was for example (that one might be a 20min walk in the park or a full game, I don't know)

>>321839092
I haven't even looked it up, but I bet gameinformer described many of the other games there as "demo" instead of "tech demo", even though that's what most of them are. You can easity extrapolate the word "tech" when some reporter says "demo"

You aren't going to tell me now that you thought stuff like LondonHeist was also going to be a full game on release just because some reporters called it a demo, are you?
>>321839526
ok nevermind, there's no saving you people. You think all games in that collage will be full-lengh games?

>>321839556
> if you were more attentive about some specific wording than most people
But those casual gaming "but-also-tech-reporters-on-the-side" jornalists don't pay as much attention or care to distinguish between a "short tech-demo" from a "demo to-be a future full game" as much as you do.

Link me to cases where he uses the two terms correctly. Usually the word Alpha or Beta is more appropriate (for the general public) to indicate a full game down the line nowadays.
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>>321840303
I know, I just don't want to buy multiple headsets.
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>>321840475
>SummerLesson was in no way in a dubious cloud of "Hmmmm is it a full game, or just a 5 minute interactive cutscene thing?"
Except it was, because so many people think it's a planned full release.
The fact that the demo itself was 5 minutes long doesn't mean anything, Telltale has been releasing long interactive cutscenes as full games for years now, in order to turn Summer Lesson into a full release you'd just need to make some sort of story and make it longer, maybe add another character or two, or go the sim route and just make it a glorified Love+ with a tutor-student theme.
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>>321840475
But LondonHeist IS going to be a full game.

>But those casual gaming "but-also-tech-reporters-on-the-side" jornalists don't pay as much attention or care to distinguish between a "short tech-demo" from a "demo to-be a future full game" as much as you do.
So you're agreeing that most people just assumed it was going to be a full game because of nebulous terms being used in the reporting of the game, and you just assumed it was not going to be a full game because of nebulous terms used in all the news of the game.
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>>321840475
http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/07/07/ps4-exclusive-the-london-heist-gets-new-high-resolution-screenshots-showing-a-car-chase-on-morpheus/
>the upcoming virtual reality game for Project Morpheus
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>>321829701
fug
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>>321840427
I ctrl+f'd "summer" and all I saw were release dates, no talk of summer lesson in the PSVR segment itself. If it exists I'd be glad if you pointed it out.

>>321841041
>because so many people think it's a planned full release
That goes to prove nothing. I don't want to call it a fallacy, but you know... it is
Many people can be wrong, and few people can be right. That goes nowhere in strengthening the argument that it was planned to be a full game.

Your last half of the post iis just your own speculation, which is proven wrong by the fact that, indeed, summer lesson isn't a full game in its current form.

>>321841214
>But LondonHeist IS going to be a full game.
source? Unless you consider a 7 minute car chase a full game, in which case we only disagree in semantics.

>most people just assumed it was going to be a full game because of nebulous terms
yes, I agree that "most people" incorrectly assumed things
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>>321841785
It might help if you put "lesson" after it.
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>>321841785
>That goes to prove nothing
But it does.
Whether or not something is a "dubious cloud" is entirely perception, there are no objective measurements to make on this, if lots of people are confused, then they've communicated it badly, pretty simple.

>Your last half of the post iis just your own speculation
It's an explanation of what people would automatically assume, people don't play a demo of a game and think that whatever the demo is, is the end of the game, they imagine what else it has in the full version.
Therefore, the fact that the demo is 5 minutes long doesn't mean anything to anyone when assuming if it's going to be a full release.
I'm sure now that you just guessed it was only a tech demo, because your reading comprehension is sub-par
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>>321841785
>source?
>>321841675
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>>321842074
So all it is is a bunch of releases?
Then why even send me the link? (thanks anyway, I'm reading though it)

How does that prove or disprove anything?
I'm not denying SummerLesson is a game that will come out. I'm saying it's a short experiment and not a full-fledged game.

Of course it counts as a release, just like all other small demos. Are the playstation camera mini-games also full fledged games now? Sure it's fun to toy around with the small robots for 10 mins but it's just something to check out the capabilities of the camera and controller, and then forget about it, only to show to friends and family later on as a cool thing.

And with that I just perfectly described what summer lesson is.

>>321841675
Same thing as above. "Yo, this thing is coming out, peace!"
Again, do you think it'll be a full game or a 7 minute long wild ride?

>>321842343
>people don't play a demo of a game and think that whatever the demo is, is the end of the game, they imagine what else it has in the full version

Yes they do. It wholy depends on context. I've been to a PSVR booth and it was apparent to me and everyone around that they are all small experiments that will then be released with PSVR, perhaps for free. Nothing more, nothing less.

By your logic the demo where you balance on a cable between the twin towers is also going to be a full game experience, and not just a quick game to show that VR is capable of.
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>>321843141
>>people don't play a demo of a game and think that whatever the demo is, is the end of the game, they imagine what else it has in the full version
>Yes they do. It wholy depends on context. I've been to a PSVR booth and it was apparent to me and everyone around that they are all small experiments that will then be released with PSVR, perhaps for free. Nothing more, nothing less.
>By your logic the demo where you balance on a cable between the twin towers is also going to be a full game experience, and not just a quick game to show that VR is capable of.

Have to agree with this, as someone who has been to these events as well. Literally no one goes in and out assuming it's going to be a full game.
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>NO PORN
>NO DOUJINS
>HARDLY EVEN FANART
GODDAMMIT
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>>321844250
It hasn't gotten that big. Be thankful there was even one fanart.

We'll see stuff when it actually comes out and people can play it.
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>>321844701
>when it actually comes out and people can actually play it
We don't know that for certain, that's what this thread is about.
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>>321843141
>It wholy depends on context.
That's exactly what I'm talking about, the context here is a game that everyone thought was going to be a full game, going to the event and having the demo only being a few minutes does not make people think otherwise.
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>>321829701
So the tech demo is PSVR exclusive. And the full game will also be available on PC?
I want mods. So I'd get it on PC over my PS4.
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>>321847049
There is nothing on PC for this game, one site reported it was coming to PC just because Harada was at a HTC Vive event and he shot them down quickly and bluntly.
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>>321848372
>There is nothing on PC for this game
There is nothing on anything for this "game" because it has just been reported that it's not a game.

Which is why I was hoping that it could find its way to PC if it was made into an actual game.
And I am not even one of those rabid anti Sony people. but being stuck on Sony VR would be pretty fucking terrible. Severely limiting the options for the VR HMDs, as well as killing any possibility of modding the game.
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