>you can still play your old games PC games on a modern PC
>you can still play your old Wii games on the Wii U
>you can't play your old PS2 and PS3 games on the PS4
>Only selected Xbox 360 titles can be played on the XBONE.
Why can't they design a console with good backwards compatibility? At least Nintendo does it, so why not the others?
>>321822316
>you can still play your old games PC games on a modern PC
That's not true at all, especially after Win XP
>>321822557
Bollocks. I can still play Quake 2 & 3 on my PC just fine.
>>321822635
Try to play Quake 1 without sourceports
>>321822774
It werks just fine, just like Todd promised.
hoe do you delete a thread
>>321822557
lolwut
>>321822316
>Why can't they design a console with good backwards compatibility?
because making quick and dirty remasters is far more lucrative when you have droves of idiots lining up for them.
The Wii U can play Wii games because it uses the same architecture. The other consoles use different architecture, so they need to run an emulator. There's no fucking way anyone's gonna be emulating the PS3's cell processor any time soon.
>>321822774
>sourceports
Yes, we can do this.
We can also run Dosbox for really old games.
>>321823207
>emulation
>acceptable
>>321822774
>>321822774
>>321823170
Why is the CELL so notorious, and why haven't CELL X.0 become a thing if CELL was so good/whatever?
>>321822557
you what. how do you think doom 2, blood and duke nukem works on steam?
protip: you can emulate entire operating systems. its even a free tool from windows own website
>>321822774
Okay. I can do that. You might have a point if you were talking about an old DOS game or something.
>>321823269
Yes it is.
Dosbox is literally perfect.
>>321823170
its already been done, its just so slow its not playable for anything.
unplayable dosent change the fact its been done. running at 0fps is still running
>>321823419
It was powerful, but ridiculously complicated and difficult to develop for. Only a few developers making PS3 exclusives ever really figured out how to take advantage of what it could do. Everyone else just ported stuff to it and made it work, which was why so many PS3 multiplats ran like garbage. It had eight co-processors, which makes it really fucking hard to emulate when most chips only have four cores.
>>321823452
>>321823269
>>321823479
Post screens
>>321823954
Git gud.
Virtual machines are a cinch nowadays.
>>321823954
Of what?
>>321823954
just to clarify for you, there is no such thing as a sourceport for those games. its just a rebranded, preset dosbox .exe. if you buy a steam dos game, your buying a free emulator and an iso. so what do you want to see? steams version of any old torrent, or any old torrent?
>>321824270
what?
Wow, backwards comparability is truly foreign to console kiddies. Feels goods being able to buy a game knowing I can still download and play it 20 years from now.
>>321824443
what?
>>321822316
because backwards compatibility is simply not profitable. Early PS3s had literally integrated part of PS2 hardware in its mobo, later PS3s were doing well in software ps2 emulation - but then devs realized how much they can gain from selling same title one more time, this time as "ps3 edition" and without a box.
tl;dr because jews
>>321823806
I mean, if it was so complicated there must have been a technical performance reason for the bizarre architecture?
Interested why they didn't catch on.
>>321825053
yes, but these are game companies try to make profit. why hire geniuses to break new ground when you could just, port it, get 20 fps and still sell 2 million copies anyways? shits a numbers game and most companies opted out. there was a FEW who put the effort in, but not many.
think of it this way. gta 5 could of put all the islands, all the cars, and all the guns from every gta ever into one game. it would of been amazing. the end all, be all. instead, we got gta 5...and they made 1 billion in 24 hours. what would YOU do. bust your back for a little more or relax and take the billion?
>>321825053
It was really powerful if you knew how to use it, but most devs didn't find it profitable to really learn how to use it since that knowledge wouldn't be applicable to anything else they did. The few games made by devs that did learn the ins and outs of the cell, like MGS4, blow other PS3 games out of the water.
>>321825509
yeah. learn the system and get good at it, only for it to be obsolete in just 7 years? it would take you that long just to get gud, and then, suddenly, the ps4 is released. all your effort? gone.
>>321825450
>could of
>>321825450
>gta 5 could of put all the islands, all the cars, and all the guns from every gta ever into one game. it would of been amazing. the end all, be all. instead, we got gta 5
>we could slap three games with totally different atmosphere/setting together into one title and yet we just got another solid game instead. boo hoo
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>321826363
>a bunch of modders doing it for free are already half way
not possible, at all, mate.
>>321826715
oh and dayz? its taken then how long to almost make a playable game, and arma 3 has a better version made by a few dudes in their basement and a few toasters. and the dayz for san andreas isnt just finished, its been done for over a year.
some fucking assholes in your mothers basement can do this
>>321825053
Sony didn't want to share games with their competitors. They chose to give the PS3 the cell processor to make porting impossible, and effectively make most games PS3 exclusive because of it. Turns out that not even Sony's pride could make that work. Sony had two two best selling consoles of all time behind their back, they had a decade of customer loyalty, and an image they built, they had every reason to believe that it would work.
Then came the PS4 which uses off the shelf x86 hardware, as they really wanted to amass developers. Even if Sony, by default, as Japan in the bag, the truth is that Sony simply doesn't care about them, they want the western games.
>>321822316
>you can still play your old games PC games on a modern PC
That's bullshit and is dependent on how the games were actually coded. I have some PC games like Spiderman and Glover that simply don't run on modern PCs. I had to fight Roller Coaster Tycoon to get it to install.
>>321827427
did you know you can emulate ENTIRE operating systems, and that its a free fucking tool on microsofts own website?
>>321827640
and if you cant fucking tell, thats win 7 running on a tablet running a vm running rollercoaster tycoon
computers a fucking magic, sir. i had fucking duke nukem and quake one running on my god damn psp. LEARN SHIT.
>>321822316
>Why can't they design a console with good backwards compatibility?
More expensive and it is really only good for the transition phase between console generations.
>>321827640
>>321827737
RCT wasn't coded with shit and lubricated with monkey grease. Not every game is going to run regardless if you are using a VM or not.
>>321822316
Can you play your gamecube games on the WiiU?
>>321828785
Yes.
You can play NES and SNES through emulation, too.
>>321822316
>you can still play your old games PC games on a modern PC
Yeah, but you have to emulate the shit out of anything older than XP. And emulation is not a fine art.
>>321828785
No. Just Wii games. Gamecube games worked on the Wii, though.
>>321828929
As in without modding soft/hard?
>>321829129
Why not if there's a Wii mode already?
>>321828119
right, so the exception makes the rule.
wait a second. did we mention dosbox is pretty much fucking flawless, or microsoft ITSELF tells you to emulate older OS`es, and even recommendeds a third party vmware software to do so?
cool story here. if your a developer, they just send you these things called msdn discs. its just a bunch of dvds with iso`s for every single version of windows known to man. id show you them myself, if i was back home right now. its not just accepted, its a fucking standard.
wish i could show you the xp disc. its got like, 12 versions ,of xp on it, including each service pack so you dont need to do it yourself. pretty funny really. 10 keys each copy. cant give you any, those keys are linked...just wanna point out tho your about 10 years late to the game
semi related note, i got stalker cherynoble running on a mac laptop, running a VMware win xp, and got it to go to up to 1920x1080. the ONLY issue was mouse lag, was over a second.
>>321828929
Wow what a deal! Sign me up!
>>321829179
>As in without modding soft/hard?
Why does that make a difference?
>Why not if there's a Wii mode already?
It's a modified version of the Wii's firmware. I also don't think the disc drive is meant to accept mini DVDs like the Wii's was.
>>321829246
>he doesn't have the homebrew channel
>>321822316
>all pc games have source ports
¿?
>>321829304
Because modding something is completely different than being able to do it out of the box. You can play n64 games on the ps3 through modding and emulation but it isn't a feature.
>>321828785
Yes, but you have to soft mod.
>>321829420
Who cares if it works without issue?
>>321822316
>you can still play your old games PC games on a modern PC
RIP Mechwarrior 3
>>321829304
>he doesn't have the homebrew channel
Why would I need to when I already have a Dolphin?
>>321829594
I don't know if your computer is hooked up to a CRT or not.
>>321829583git gud
>>321829734
FUCK HOW?
All I get is screwed up textures smudging around the place and my jump jets make me trip.
/thread
>>321829963
I know this is bait, but sonycucks actually pay extra for their old games.
>>321829041
You are emulating on the same microarchitecture, which is significantly easier and far more accurate.
>>321829858
I think there is a guide on a fansite.
I can't remember where. I found it using
>>321829210
That's not very plug and play is it ha
>>321829210
That's an interesting fact. It doesn't surprise me but I had never heard of the debug builds.
I'm not saying it's impossible to get older PC games to work. Some might run out of the box without doing anything. I don't think it's accurate to say all games do though.
>>321822557
Most games use Directx 9 and dont work in W8-10 because devs are dead or lazy for re-write the entire game for the latest features Xbox store support.
>>321830151
lucky for you, theres entire companies and websites that produce premade operating systems and premade dosbox .exe`s so you dont have to do anything more then click and play
heres an obscure one, might not of heard of it? we call itsteam...or your torrent site of choice
>>321830141
Okay fair enough. I'll try again then :P
>>321830278
god no, but if your a lazy cunt someones already done if for you. google will show you the way, prepacked and ready to roll. simple as a single google search
>>321829524
Because if you're going that route, you might as well emulate on a computer. Your argument becomes null.
>>321830278
oh and what? debug builds have nothing to do with it. you know how most OS`es give you like a week to activate it? well, you can save state operating systems. yes, you can. just reload from day 1, over and over and over...
start treating operating systems like roms, babe.
>>321830072
Sonyfags always pay a premium on everything, hence the common "at least I'm not a poorfag" argument.
>>321830764
wait, didnt mean to sound aggressive. i ment, "oh, and what?"
>>321829858
Shouldn't have bought AMD
>>321822316
>TFW my collector's edition Quake 3 Arena metal box is sitting right behind me on my shelf
It's a real pussy magnet.
>>321822316
NO, normal people buy new video game console to play video games that require a new hardware, if normal people purchase a new console for backwards there is no need to make a new console, that's why PS3 and PS4 doesn't have backwards compatibility because people that bought those systems is because they have a previous system,
also not all old games work on W8 - W10.
>>321832345
>also not all old games work on W8 - W10.
While this is true, the vast majority do. I can count the number of times I've had compatibility issues while using W8 and W10 on one hand.
>>321832345
Sure, because """normal""" people do this.
