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>>321782241
thread/
they are all great
7 is the greatest, 9 is the most refined
>>321781848
>Thinking 8 is contrarian
>implying Triple Triad doesn't fucking make that game
>>321781848
>OP is a colossal shit-stirring faggot
discuss
>>321781848
The art style of IX annoys the fuck out of me.
>contrarian
>patrician
I hate these meme-ass words
Go back to shitposting in /tv/ faggot
I don't know, I just loved the shit out of all them when I played them, is it that important to declare a victor when they are totally different and strive for different goals as games and stories?
nobody even knows what "patrician" means
all dem 4chin buzzwords
fght me fgts
>>321782908
plebian: ds2
contrarian: demons souls
patrician: bloodborne
>>321782908
>>321783074
fixed
ftfy
>>321783447
Simplified.
literally irrefutable
>>321781848
What do these meme words even mean?
>>321782670
>thinking contrarian and patrician are "meme words"
holy shit are you literally ten years old?
>>321784000
where do you think we are
/v/ is diaper as fuck, it's why anyone who actually cares about vidya goes to /vg/ or /vr/
>>321784124
This.
Words like meme and cuckold are banded around so often and with such hyperbole that they have lost all sense of meaning.
>>321783917
underage b&
>>321783789
Am i the only one who thinks sonic & knuckles was far better than sonic 3?
>>321781848
Plebian: VII and IX
Patrician: VIII
>>321784618
most people treat them as two parts of the same game
>>321781848
Nothing to discuss, you nailed it. 7 has aged like milk and 8's story is like the ramblings of a schizophrenic. With ps2 loading times/emulator speed up ff9 is truly the best choice.
Have played all 3, I think they are average, same with the whole FF franchise.
VIII had Rinoa as the forced romance while Quistis has faded into obscurity.
That makes it the worse Final Fantasy.
>>321784949
>8's story is like the ramblings of a schizophrenic
I've tried so hard explaining what 8's story feels like but I like this. Or at least, it's 1/4 the length of how I usually describe it but doesn't miss anything.
>>321784949
At least VIII is interesting to watch collapse in on itself
IX is boring
>>321785381
Thing is I don't even think 8 is a bad game. It's just fucking weird. If you like that more power to you but it's definitely not "the best".
Like I'd be more accepting of 8 if the creators actually intended for it to be as weird as it was when translated.
Also play pic related if you haven't, I like to think of it as pokemon if it was written by a manic depressive naturalist.
>>321785863
If you find 9 boring you probably don't enjoy final fantasy games.
>>321785919
Jade cocoon for life, I still to this day will pick it up and play it. It has a timeless mystique about it that draws you in.
>>321781848
FFIX is fucking garbage.
>>321785919
Completely forgot about this game. Loved it. Up there with legends of Dragoon.
>>321785919
Looks sick, can't believe I've never heard of it considering I'm all about PS1. Thanks anon.
>>321781848
You have 2 social ranks, and 1 description of a personal opinion. Why not go with 3 social ranks? Why not go with 3 personal opinions? The answer? OP is a faggot.
/discussion
This "le ff9 is good!" meme needs to die. Huge let down after 7 and 8.
>Linear as fuck.
>Worst art direction.
>Boring combat and gameplay.
>One of the most forgettable parties in the series.
>Bland MC.
>>321781848
OP is right
9 is the best ff
>>321786359
>>321786308
>>321786045
No problem lads,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uktsE1A5gRU&index=32&list=PLXSaJ1VYkIYv1TqgmPsJzb-0r9UOv_Ejj
Here take this to get you pumped, one of the nicest tracks in the game.
>>321786019
I like IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, X so that's wrong but nice strawman.
>>321786757
Are the sequels any good?
>>321786549
>>321786019
>>321784949
>>321781848
>>321786841
not him but I don't understand why the fuck would you find 9 boring then
>>321781848
>ff ix in a nutshell
>>321786953
>people with opinion differing from mine must be from reddit
>>321786492
Just like FFVII and FFVIII? Yeah.
Nope not really
Yes the combat is really slow
Nope not true
Perhaps but better than Squall who barely even said anything at all the first 20 hours of the game.
>>321786492
>Linear as fuck.
like all final fantasy games
>Worst art direction.
I'll agree that VII and VIII might have been more interesting in this regard but how is IX art direction bad
>Boring combat and gameplay.
I forgot that they went for a completely different combat style in IX, so different from VII and VIII
>One of the most forgettable parties in the series.
VII's party might be better but holy fuck VIII rivals XII with it's bland characters, how can you prefer that to IX?
>Bland MC.
Yeah I love angsty emo crybaby Squall, so good
Cloud is alright, but I like that Zidane is a happy go lucky type character
>>321786958
it's derivative as fuck, I play the game and see "oh that's from IV, oh I remember that from VI" - I want something different not nostalgia bait.
Also the loading times are horrendous, the battle system and way of learning skills was annoying, the characters are unmemorable besides Vivi, the villains are shit (what the fuck was that final boss?)
IX was good when it had Queen Brahne and Shakespeare shit then it descended into a bad final fantasy fanfiction with aliens or some shit. Also fuck Amarant and that loli, also Dagger losing her voice because of something I can't remember. Also that part where your dumped in the myst island with people like Freya who you haven't used in 10 hours so they are all about level 18 whilst Zidane is level 40 and you have to grind them all up.
I just found the whole thing a boring mess that seemed to not know what it wanted to be.
>>321786492
>>Linear as fuck.
Not really
even if it was true, listen to me when I say that there is literally nothing wrong with linearity
>>Worst art direction.
how the fuck did you reach this conclusion when is the only videogame that has done steampunk correctly?
>>Boring combat and gameplay.
The combat system is the fucking same as the previous five with the ATB system and gaining abilities with equipment is straightforward
>>One of the most forgettable parties in the series.
For you, that was completely your opinion, not a fact
>>Bland MC.
again, your sole opinion, not a fact
>>321786492
>>complaining about linearity in FF
So your favorite is X-2 then?
>>>Worst art direction.
Subjective
>Boring combat and gameplay.
How is it any less exciting than ff8/7? I found starting with a thief and learning skills from equipment really interesting since in pretty much every other jrpg you just buy whatever has the highest stats at each new town and sell your old equipment, ff9 actually forced you to think about your equipment.
>>>One of the most forgettable parties in the series.
At least zidane wasn't an edgy fuck like squall/an insane person like cloud. Zidane is the Joseph Jostar of FF, he steals for a living, he grabs garnets ass, he takes no shit. Also
>>Forgetting about Garnets ass
How could you?
>>321786912
I never did play them since I could never find a physical copy. Thanks for reminding me they exist though.
>>321787349
so, you personally didn't like it and that's why you say it's boring
All of what you've said is just your opinion
People who hate on FFIX are like that one guy with no friends who's always bitter.
I love all PS1 FF's btw since I'm not a insecure faggot.
>>321782650
How? It's fucking amazing.
>>321787619
yes, obviously..
How could I objectively say it's good or bad?
I don't need to state it's my opinion, I'm talking about a video game so that's pretty obvious.
>all this FF IX shitting
It was good if only for being the last medieval final fantasy
>mfw we will never get a medieval final fantasy ever again and just stay with cyberpunk shit
not that there is anything wrong with that, but I'll miss medieval
>>321786953
>>Reddit strawman deployed
>>Argument destroyed
Whats it like to have not be able to form opinions on your own?
>>321787619
isn't 'boring' completely subjective as well? i didn't see him claiming anything else
>>321787716
ah okay
>>321787134
>>321787214
You're absolutely fucking wrong if you think 7 and 8 are as linear as 9. It's arguably the most linear one in the entire series.
>Nope not really
>but how is IX art direction bad
Because it just looks bad. There's not much to go into detail.
>I forgot that they went for a completely different combat style in IX
It's still shit.
>Not true
Yes it is true.
>hates Squall for being le emo XD
>Is ok with Zidane aka generic happy shonen protag #544432432
>>321784618
They're two parts of one game. Sonic 3 takes place in the lower areas of the island, setting up game mechanics and setting, with lots of water. Sonic and Knuckles has the more varied environments IMO, taking place closer to the centre of the island and generally having more epic set-pieces (Lava Reef's boss, Hidden Palace, Sky Sanctuary, Doomsday etc).
Sonic and Knuckles is great, but it works so well because it complements Sonic 3. In my opinion Sonic 3 is a 7/10, Sonic & Knuckles is an 7.5/10 but together they make a 10/10 - in terms of Sonic games, that is.
>>321787771
all the SNES games are patricion truly
>plebeian: PS1 FF
>Contrarian: NES FF
>Patricion: SNES FF
>>321787771
VI is easily the most popular one out of those, I'd swap IV and VI but V is the patrician choice, yes.
>>321787771
V is better than IV but VI is top tier.
>>321784618
They were supposed to be one big game so that's how most people treat them.
>>321787968
6's popularity is almost entirely built around people who think FF7 is overrated, hence being in contrarian
4 is enjoyed a lot by casuals who just like playing video games (there's nothing wrong with this)
>>321787879
>hating Zidane for being happy
see how you sound? I didn't even hate squall btw I just mentioned he barely talks.
Also how does it look bad exactly? It's a PS1 game, they all look bad nowadays, unless your some pretentious faggot. Doesn't make the games less fun though.
>>321787771
V's arguably the best Final Fantasy has ever been at being a video game so it's definitely patrician.
>>321788115
except that it doesn't even look bad for todays standard, FFIX can be easily the best looking ps1 game
>>321787879
>hates Squall for being le emo XD
>Is ok with Zidane aka generic happy shonen protag #544432432
I mean.. yes? You obviously disagree but happy characters are far more interesting than moody ones, at least for me
>>321788115
he isn't that happy though
he goes on some weird cloud-esque voyage of discovery and is depressed at the start of disc 3 if I remember correctly
>>321788207
>>"the best"
More like " the rng hell". I still enjoyed it though but there is nothing more enraging than failing a life spell.
>>321788438
despair event horizon
it's a good character development, doesn't occur until the half of third disc or so
>>321788438
Because shit happened bro. Squall was acting like a depressed guy from the very start of the game.
>>321782650
i couldn't play it for years because of this.
eventually i got over it and i played it. it is my favorite final fantasy game.
>>321781848
OP is full of shit, everybody knows the best FF isthe one you enjoy playing the mostexcept XIII-2, even XIII-1 is better
>>321787879
>You're absolutely fucking wrong if you think 7 and 8 are as linear as 9. It's arguably the most linear one in the entire series.
How so? They all follow the same formula.
>>321787474
>there is literally nothing wrong with linearity
Fuck off. And yes 9 is linear as fuck, stop being so heavily in denial.
>how the fuck did you reach this conclusion when is the only videogame that has done steampunk correctly?
What the fuck does this even mean? I'm saying 9's art style is shit. Even by generic fantasy standards it manages to look retarded.
>The combat system is the fucking same as the previous five with the ATB system and gaining abilities with equipment is straightforward
The way it was implemented was shit.
>For you, that was completely your opinion, not a fact
You mean for most people? This is a pretty common opinion.
>again, your sole opinion, not a fact
See above.
>>321787480
>So your favorite is X-2 then?
X-2 is aight, but the best in the series are undeniably 5 and 7.
>Subjective
Just like it's subjective that some believe socialism is better than capitalism right? Fuck off.
>ff9 actually forced you to think about your equipment.
HAHAHAHA
>At least zidane wasn't an edgy fuck like squall/an insane person like cloud. Zidane is the Joseph Jostar of FF, he steals for a living, he grabs garnets ass, he takes no shit. Also
Zidane is shit, the fact that you're comparing him to someone in a meme anime just shows how autistic you are.
>Forgetting about Garnets ass
I wouldn't have if he wasn't forgettable as fuck like the entire party.
>>321782650
>not liking amano
Shit, do you have taste? Is your whole life bland? Was vii your first FF?
>>321788530
Being someone who was heavily into DnD before videogames things like failing a life spell or getting a huge miss in xcom is pure bliss to me. A much better occurrence than what takes place in most games
>>321788572
you'd have to be one hell of a contrarian to prefer SImon's Quest over 1 and 3
>>321783074
Agree so hard
>All these IXbabbies getting uppity over their mediocre game
wew lad
>>Zidane is the Joseph Jostar of FF, he steals for a living, he grabs garnets ass, he takes no shit
Nail on the head
>>321788862
Some of /vr/ does. Though it's only because they think AVGN ruined retro gaming.
>>321788820
>I wouldn't have if he wasn't forgettable as fuck like the entire party.
Do you even know what the fuck your talking about?
Also
>X-2 is aight
You should start tripping so I can filter you.
>>321788862
With the possibilities of the internet and fan patches it's not as terrible as le angry videogamecuck makes it out to be
>>321784841
Because that's what they are, geniuses.
>>321788954
>>321787727
>>If I just don't reply directly I can pretend I beat their arguments and that my opinion is better
Stay mad
>>321788558
squall was just a teenager tbf, especially considering it was the 90s
>>321781848
>>321781848
>>321782908
>>321783074
>>321783447
>>321783789
>>321784863
>>321786943
>>321787771
>>321788572
>ITT masterpieces which are popular are plebeian because they're popular.
You guys are stupid as shit yo.
Final Fantasy 2 is the only good FF.
>>321789390
Are you retarded?
plebeian and popular are pretty much synonymous
>>321789026
It is shit. If you need a fan patch to make a game decent, it's not good.
>>321789382
Zidane was 16 years old buddy
>>321789070
I know...
that's why I was saying that most people treat them like that as opposed to comparing them directly...
>>321788712
Literally a non-opinion.
Why did you even make a post?
>>321789534
he's also living the life in some theatre troupe rather than boring himself to death in school, getting made fun of and getting cucked by seifer.
>>321789390
Plebeian =/= bad
Get fucked idiot
>>321788820
>most people
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/final-fantasy-ix
91 on metacritic user score
Go choke on a dick
>>321788207
This guy knows what's up.
Though I think War of the Lions is superior.
>>321788820
>>X-2 is aight, but the best in the series are undeniably 5 and 7.
I actually don't mind X-2, good combat system as far as I'm concerned. It gets a bad rap. My point was don't complain about linearity when you think 7 is the best final fantasy.
>>Just like it's subjective that some believe socialism is better than capitalism right? Fuck off.
Do you even know what subjective means you fucking mongoloid? How is what you said there in context at all?
>>>ff9 actually forced you to think about your equipment.
>>HAHAHAHA
Well it fucking does, you're often faced with the choice of getting better equipment or training a skill you want. Often enough the best weapon available doesn't teach you the most useful skill you could be learning at that moment.
>>Zidane is shit, the fact that you're comparing him to someone in a meme anime just shows how autistic you are.
>>meme
>>autistic
C'mon man, at least try.
>>I wouldn't have if he wasn't forgettable as fuck like the entire party.
>>he
Go back to bed.
>>321789927
Both have their pros and cons
>>321789835
>metacritic user score
>a site where people rate things 10 and 1 to "balance" scores out
not the same guy but come one
>>321786492
You forgot to mention how spoilerific the game is if you want to get all the abilities.
Missed minus strike? You were supposed to backtrack to Treno for no reason. And the blood sword that gives you the ability is only available during that short window.
>>321789490
No. They're not.
>>321789703
Plebeian means commoner. Not sure about you but most people don't like being called a commoner. It is generally regarded as a negative term.
>>321790229
Well like it or fucking not, most people are common
FFV gets a lot of praise from people on this board. Can someone explain why it's good to someone that hasn't played it since it got released on the GBA back in the day?
>>321786492
>Linear as fuck
Pretty sure most of them are linear
>Worst art direction
I like it because of the diversity of the races in the game
>Boring combat and gameplay
A bit too grindy i.m.o
>Forgettable parties
Not really, some of them are. It's just some party members aren't used/explained properly.
>Bland MC
I like Zidane better than Squall.
>>321790574
Because it cuts out all the narrative bullshit and is a whole more of a game than the other FF games.
>>321790574
Perfect balance of story, worldbuilding and gameplay, none of the characters are shitty, and the job system is the best in the series.
>>321790574
Job system is really fun and addicting. The story is fun and doesn't take itself seriously. Gilgamesh is awesome.
>>321782241
this is true
The only character from IX I liked was Beatrix because she killed furries
>>321782241
This is correct.
>Final Fantasy
>patrician category
KEK, there are only two categories and it should go like this:
>plebein
FFI, FFIV, FFVI, FFVI, FFX, FFXIII
>contrarian
FFII, FIII, FFV, FFVIII, FFIX, FFXII
PROVE ME WRONGYou can't.
>>321792307
Wrong, the only patrician Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy Tactics you swine.
>Plebeian
Game you like.
>Contrarian
Game someone else likes.
>Patrician
Game I like.
There. There's your entire fucking thread you stupid faggot.
>>321781848
FFVII - Good, enjoyable, Tifas tits
FFVIII - Decent, confusing system, Rinoa is cute
FFIX - The best one, Garnets ass, the soldiers asses, all dem asses
Stop the shitflinging, they are all good.
Discus what? A factual statement?
>>321792307
>plebein
Any popular FF
>contrarian
Your favorite FF
>patrician
MY favorite FF
>>321782516
Well I thin OP is colossal, not in a literal way, but a metaphorically way, meaning that is not just a little faggot - but very much so. I know the common trait among shit-stirrers are that they often has lots of dicks in their mouth. Now I have nothing more to add to the discussion.
>>321788842
Its not based on amano you scrub
>>321788954
terrible
Here's a pretty easy one.
Human Revolution is still a damn good game though.
>>321786492
The combat and gameplay was the best part of the game. I really enjoy the characters being specific classes and learning different spells rather than everyone is just the same but limit breaks. The equip-item skill-learning is really fun too because it has you trying out different weapons and Hironobou Sakaguchi understood that so he re-used it as the Immortal-Mortal-Link-Learning system in Lost Odyssey.
The combats are more fun too since you have four characters instead of three.
Gee, it's like there is some kind of pattern here.
>>321793708
Switch 1 and 3, and 5 and 6 and it's perfect desu senpai
You fags will argue about anything
>>321792526
>Rinona
People like you disgust me, Selphie was the best girl of VIII BOOYAKA!
>>321781848
I didn't like 9 at all.
The characters, the gameplay, the setting, the story... none of it gripped me, none of it drew me in.
It's the only FF I have played which possessed no redeeming qualities. I wasn't even fond of the soundtrack.
>>321793829
FF5 is harder than FF1 tho
>>321781848
Plebeian: Galaxy
Contrarion: 64
Patrician: Sunshine
>>321793829
I is very easy and the remakes of III made it much, much easier.
>>321794208
Switch 64 and Sunshine and you're golden family
>You're a pleb if you like this immensely popular game
>You're a contrarian if you like this slightly less popular game
>You're a patrician if you like this also very popular but not as popular as the pleb option
>Patrician
Tactics
>Contrarian
Tactics A2
>Plebeian
Tactics Advance
>>321783107
>>321794303
But Sunshine's the superior game. It expanded upon the original with more moves, more abilities, and a more varied world. It's the perfect sequel.
Meanwhile, 64 is the residence of nostalgiafags and hipsters who worship the N64 because memes.
>>321794208
Plebian: 3D World
Contrarian: Sunshine and Galaxy
Patrician: Galaxy 2 and 64All are good games though
>>321793708
switch 9 and 8 and you're right
Plebeian: Gran Turismo 2,4 and 5
Contrarian: Gran Turismo 6, GTPSP and Tourist Trophy
Patrician: Gran Turismo 1 and 3
>>321785919
>Jade_Cocoon
Holy shit anon i've been looking for this game for so many years
>all those faggots arguing that any Mario game isn't pleb garbage
>>321794482
>only 30fps 3D mario game
>literally one type of level
>patrician tier
gamecube nostalgia fags are the worst nostalgia fags
>>321789490
LOL
Irrefutable.