Is there any point in building hueg ass PCs for gaming nowadays?
I'm currently running a full size i7 2600K and a GTX 690 and have been thinking about downsizing so I can fit more monitors on my cramped desk.
Why don't you put the case under the desk?
>>321731512
>100s of square feet in a house
wah my desk is too small
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Oh, leaning towards these upgrades;
- NCASE M1 V3 mini-ITX case ($250)
- Intel i7 5820K ($500)
- ASRock X99 mini-ITX ($200)
- G.Skill Trident-X 32GB DDR4 ($250)
- Sapphire R9 Nano 4GB ($850)
- Samsung 850 Pro 480GB SSD ($250)
- Western Digital RED NAS 4TB HDD ($200)
- SilverStone SX600-G SFX PSU ($150)
>>321731893
the floor is lava
>>321731893
Eh, I tend to extend my legs and recline when gaming so I need extra leg room.
>>321732065
I live in a sardine can. The benefits of living in the city.
Micro ATX/Mini ITX has been all the rage for a while now, but I don't think there's anything wrong with a mid tower, it's definitely easier to build in and has more options
Pic related my case
If you use the right case and proper cooling, you can put a full size graphics card in a mini ITX board, and it'll be tiny as fuck.
I've got one of the cuboid Corsair Obsidian cases and I'm running a GTX 970, and it's perfect in every way
I've been part of the kawaii~uguu *.*)/ Master Race for a few years now. Don't see the point of full size cases, unless you're running three or more GPUs.
>>321733113
Full sized GTX 980 in here >>321733121 under the SSDs and ODD.
>>321733121
>want to work on your system or add anything
>colossal pain in the ass taking hours just to fucking fit shit in
no thanks.
>>321733402
>Opening your PC more often than once every few years
The fuck?
>>321733447
Do you not clean yours?
>>321733402
Yeah it's time consuming but that's why you do it right in the first place. Unless you're a full retard, then it's not that difficult.
>>321733402
If you're a dumb shit who buys into the Mini PC meme, you have 0 room for expansion anyway, so why would you open your PC that often?
>>321733402
Not everyone has fat fingers/hands, fatty.
>>321733529
Just opened my 2 years unopened PC. Not a spec of dust inside.
The key is to clean your fucking house and use dust filters.
>>321733529
I don't live in a pig sty and my case already has magnetic fine dust filters. Plus with the positive air pressure, there's no opportunity for dust to settle in there.
You should start vacuuming every now and then.
>>321733402
>want to work on your system or add anything
How often do you replace CPU, GPU, RAM?
>>321733682
>not replacing your components weekly
It's like you want your shit to break
>>321733402
>or add anything
Dumb fucks who buy the mATX meme have 0 room to add anything. Enjoy your tiny case and 1 PCIE slot.
>>321733121
>>321733348
How does that not melt under load?
>>321733682
He's probably a poorfaggot that buys cheap shitty gear with the "plan" to upgrade instead of getting a beast straight away.
>>321733796
Because it's built with PC hardware that is 10 years newer than your latest PC knowledge. Parts aren't that hot these days, dumbass.
>>321733858
>parts aren't that hot
>uses an aftermarket CPU cooler that's bigger than the case
Why not just go stock
>>321731512
If you want the most customization, options and cooling then yes, otherwise no.
This is mine in a HAF X overclocked to 4.8ghz, it never gets warm and I like to fuck around with it and regularly change parts out. The downside is I'm a student so I move lots and it's an absolute ball ache to do, especially if I wanted to go home for a while and take it with me. In comparison I recently built my GF a simiarily performing micro atx build and I envy her for the portability but its much more limitied cooling wise and can only fit a couple of HDDs, meanwhile I could slap a dozen more in with no issues.
>>321733778
We have room to put more screens on our desk
When you grow up you'll get over the le blue LED gamer case meme
>>321733858
Still, there's no room for cool air to enter and those weak standard fans must struggle. At the very least these rigs must be loud as fuck.
>>321733796
My build here >>321733121 is the most efficient, air-flow wise, build I've attempted. The GPU and CPU have separate chambers and have direct access to high-positive intake via 2000RPM Cougar Vortex fans.
There is no room for stale air or turbulence to occur.
My CPU is running at 4.5GHz @1.2v, 70c under load. My GPU does not ever go beyond 65c.
It's obviously loud as fuck at load though.
>>321734106
You're an ignorant one, aren't you? That's okay, you just need to be educated that's all.
>>321732285
why can't you move the case to the left or right of your legs????
>>321733858
You're wrong.
10 years ago nobody bothered about leakage current on gate capacitance, since the linear size of gate oxide was big enough to make it very, very little. Nowadays everything's been downsized to the point where it is a problem.
If you want to see a proof of my words google how stock CPU coolers looked like 10 years ago and compare them to this.
>>321734316
>sardine can apartment
>small desk
>gangly legs
You must lack reading comprehension.
Also have a subwoofer on the under the desk too.
>>321734431
Put it next to your desk you fucking faggot.
Better airflow is the only real reason, if you don't plan on overclocking your case and mobo size doesn't really matter.
>>321734502
Anon, you're going full retard.
>>321732595
>Micro ATX/Mini ITX
How does that compare to a mid tower for cooling?
>>321734592
You've got room. You're just making excuses.
>>321734385
Here's pentium 3 - note "straight" radiator and much smaller fan.
>>321734431
none of the circumstances you're describing prevents the tower from moving to the right or left of you though????
>>321733821
Bought myself a mid sized case with panels(mistake) , good gpu for the time, atx mobo, cpu cooler.
Thinking "Yeah I'm gonig to be so 1337, upgrading my shit, 3 gpus etc", I only open it to clean it.
Next build will be a smaller inwin901
>>321734593
See >>321734110 if you have a modern mini-ITX case (within the past three years) you get more efficient cooling at the cost of noise. I vidya with in-ear monitors so I can't hear it anyway.
>>321734631
And 386 - where's the additional cooling?
Oh wait, there's none.
>>321734593
Things are much tighter inside, so there isn't much room for airflow, but if cables are managed correctly and good airflow is constructed then it performs similarly
What does /v/ of this build here >>321732149? I also just wanna spend my Christmas bonus.
Why is this a thing? I have a 4gb vram graphic card but Shogun 2 thinks I only have 2.9gb.
>>321734975
If you need to ask that question then you don't need half that shit.
You don't need an i7 5820k and 32GB of ram to play video games.
>>321733796
Not that guy, but I've got a similar thing going on, and I just use a closed-loop liquid cooler. Works like a charm. 4.2ghz overclocked, never gets hotter than 70c
>>321735214>yfw he fell for the 2.9GBmeme
>>321734975
i7 isn't useful for video games yet, only buy it if you do a lot of video/music editing or 3d modeling. you also don't need more than 16GB of RAM and you could even still get away with 8 if you wanted. and although DDR4 isn't used heavily yet it wouldn't hurt to get it.
>>321735257
>>321735506
It's pretty obvious that's it not just a gaming PC
Yeah, thinking of building mini itx build.
And recommendation case? Currently leaning toward pic related.
Suggestions would be welcome.
>>321735703
then he should ask on a /g/ build thread or do some research himself. asking on the video games board without specifying it's use isn't helping anyone.
>>321735703
Then why's he asking on /v/? That's a /g/ question.
>>321735782
SilverStone has a bunch of slim-line cases that accepts full size parts but there's the CoolerMasters like you posted for shoe box cases.
Lian Li, NCASE etc. are too fucking expensive.
>>321735214
>buying a meme card
>>321736523
This one looks pretty awesome, from SilverStone.
Do you have any specific recommendation?
For space you dumb fuck
I have a tiny case and it has cooling problems. The gpu randomly spikes up and the fan goes crazy for like 20 seconds because of how cramped and close it is to the motherboard, cpu, cpu fan etc
Big cases are way better, dont be a modern "sleek" faggot
>>321737123
Show your specs and case.
I'm having no cooling issues here >>321733121 at all.
>>321736885
The Raven RZV series are awesome slim-line cases with a bit more agressive characteristics. There's the Milo series, which are the original chassis, but designed more for a sleek, simple HTPC look.
The older FT-03 Mini case is like the Sugo series but on a 90° angle, sitting front down/up so it's thinner but taller. Probably the most unique case out there.
>>321737613
I dont want to turn off my pc and unscrew the case. I got an aftermarket cpu fan thats pretty big and hovers next to the gpu though. I think the heat from that is to close to the gpu and thats whats causing it to spike. Im still using a gtx760 that i got just to play battlefield 3 a few years ago.
I really just would like to start fresh and just transfer the hard drive and cpu over, but im poor as fuck
>>321737781
meant for >>321737319
Guess i should add on, i fell for the small sleek case meme. Its a retarded idea if you have tons of space and i keep my pc on a tile floor thats always fucking freezing
>>321737781
>>321737868
Your Speccy you retard. Also, just tell us your case.
Unless your just bashing mini-ITX because you you need to justify you're shitty full size build.
>>321731512
For the average person (ie. just want to build and actually use their computer not open it every day for god knows why, single GPU, buy components that will last a few years before upgrade), no, there's no point.
Just make sure you get a good case and actually go small. None of that mATX shit, go mini ITX. Because most of the mATX cases are mid sized or close to that anyway, whereas mini ITX there are a lot of small cases to choose from.
why is mini itx the new thing?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XWJMjX
pretty set on the case I'm try not to spend more than 350 on this right now I'll be adding a 390 and an ssdin later how can I improve it? Am I bottlenecking the fuck out of myself
>>321739508
can you reuse your old HDD and not buy that 1TB? Just get a SSD straight from the start (even a cheap 120gb). It is by far the most important upgrade for everyday use.
>>321740085
I can spend then extra 10 on a 120 gb SSD and just be sparing til I get mass storage. I don't have anything to salvage.
>>321740085
I plan on adding in a small cpu aio watercooler later for overclocking but I'm really concerned it'll be a bottleneck for the 390
>>321740276
>>321740475
I'd highly recommend getting an SSD over the mechanical.
Only downside is you can't have many games installed.
Also, from what you have said and your parts it seems like you're short on money. If that's the case, don't go for a cheaper cpu with the aim to OC it via water later. The extra you spend on water is better served getting a better cpu in the first place. better CPU with stock cooler > overclocked slower cpu on water imo. Just save yourself the headache of overclocking.
>>321739472
-Same processor, ram, GPU socket types as (m)atx, including full-height expansion slots, so you can still build a full-spec gaming PC, short of doing mutli-GPU setups.
-Most other things you'd get PCI cards for are integrated into your mobo (WiFi, Firewire), or can be done via USB.
-Hard drives are large enough you can get by with 1, or 1 HDD + 1 SDD if you prefer, or even just 1 large SDD. Most people don't need a tower with 4-8 drive bays.
-Thanks to digital distribution most software and games nowadays don't come on discs, so you don't need a 5.25" bay for a CD/DVD drive. If you do you can get an external drive, and many mini-itx cases do have an external 5.25' bay just in case.
-Some people don't like large cases. Whether that's because they don't want it taking up a lot of desk/floor space, they move it around often, or they simply are of the opinion that it looks better, it's up to them.
--This includes people who want to put their gaming PC next to their TV in their living room. Many mITX cases are no bigger than a Playstation or XBox, or even a cable/satellite box, so it easily fits in with the other devices in your entertainment center.
>>321731512
>Is there any point in building hueg ass PCs for gaming nowadays?
Not really. Most of the builds I do for clients are Micro-ATX if not smaller.
>>321731512
Small cases are fine if it's an htpc, a home office, or a single GPU gaming build. But if you want multi-gpu, a sound card, water cooling, or a raid setup for your data drives then I'd stick to midsize or up.
There's no issues with heat in small cases. Heat limits for current gen CPUs and GPUs aren't reachable unless you're doing major overclocks or have fucked compound or something.
If you can physical fit what you want in your PC in that case, and you prefer the look of it then go for it mate.
