What was the breaking point for Kingdom Hearts, /v/?
Which game was it where it went so convoluted and wrong?
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>>321724253
Nobodies weren't that hard to wrap your head around, it was all the backstory for the stupid Special Nobodies that fucked it
Maybe the real Sora were all the friends we made along the way
3D.
What's gonna be the new Utada song for III
>>321724167
2
I just kind of lost all interest at that point.
Got back into the series with DDD though since I was tired of Sora as a protagonist. Riku was infinitely more interesting and seeing him fix Sora's fuckups was good.
>>321724657
CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWLING IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
>>321724167
I wish the story wasn't such a fucking mess. What's wrong with a simple but enjoyable and charming story? Why does it have to be so god damn convoluted.
I have full grasp of the story, but the franchise lost me after BBS's shitty gameplay.
>>321724167
None? Story makes sense to me. Eagerly waiting kh 3.
>>321724167
I dunno. I'm loving this trainwreck of a series that I can't wait to see what shit Nomura pulls out of his ass in 3.
Although, Half-Xehanort was pretty wack.
>>321724946
Funnily enough I heard people touting BBS as good
But god damn there sure are a fuckton of Sora's at this point. Isn't he not even a Keyblade Master now, just Riku?
>>321725057
Literally who the fuck is the bad guy at this point and why is he the bad guy
Who is that bald guy
What were the Keyblade Wars
>>321724253
>>321724436
Basically this, there were elements of II that added interest but there were also just as many that were inane bullshit
>>321725225
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8cPyvE2GTjOMzE4MTVlZTctMjE5Yi00YzAzLWJjZTAtZTllODY2OTc2MTMx/edit?hl=en_US
Is Utada still pissed about singing in english? Is is gonna be simple and clean again?
>>321725225
>>321725698
>Not posting the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjin6a2m1FY
>>321725698
Why did Ven share his heart with Sora at the beginning
>>321725814
? I have some Utada CD's in English, why was/would she be pissed?
>>321725225
Everything in BbS, X, and DDD is just a retread of everything we already know except made unnecessarily more "complicated"
The bald guy is the past incarnation of Xehanort who has pretty much exactly the same motives and personality as Xemnas in II and fake-Ansem in the first game.
The Keyblade Wars are supposed to be an expansion of the war mentioned in Kairi's grandmother's story, but they're just as, if not even more shrouded in mystery in BbS as the legend was in the original game.
Also everyone has now either been inside Sora, half-Sora, or inherited their appearance from Sora, while everyone else is half-Xehanort. Also some Disney characters I guess.
>>321724967
This.
>>321725996
Jesus.
but what the fuck IS kingdom hearts
why does everyone want the damn heart moon
>>321726304Kingdom Hearts is you and me anon
>>321726016
Because Xehanort forcibly extracting the Darkness from him fucked him up.
It's really not hard guys
evil bald sith master wants kingdom hearts. To get it he tries to create the Xblade (read as keyblade). Shit happens, and then merges with some faggot, then gets divided into a two people, but then sora beats both his asses, making him remerge. Then he makes a bunch of clones of himself, and gets beat up again.
Now he's back, and still wants kingdom hearts.
Also there's like a billion sora clones but that's not important.
>>321724967
Agreed.
>>321726304
We won't find out exactly until KH3.
>>321724167
I only played the first one and it was already dumb as fuck.
>Made my own game within the game where I would replace every instance of heart with butthole and darkness with penis
>the game became a story about how everyone wanted to fuck sora in his magical asshole
>>321725996
Turn it up! I can't hear the music!
>>321726901
I'd critique you but I was like 8 or 10 when I played the first game so
>>321724657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVJmCy9rfY
What kind of title is 358/2 days?
>>321728973
The same kind "II.8 Final Chapter Prelude" is
>>321728973
If refers to the almost year, 358 Days, that's shared by 2 people in this case Roxas and Xion.
When I met the fanbase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2e7bX2oVlQ
>DUAL WIELD
>Dude don't hit the camera
The first handheld one. Chain of Memories?
Fuck off.
>fight Organization THIRTEEN in Kingdom Hearts 2
>doesn't have 13 members
>other members killed off in a literally why video game
How would you feel if Oswald appeared in KH3?
>>321729303
Oh shit, Oswaldfag is that you?
>>321726081
>who has pretty much exactly the same motives and personality as Xemnas in II and fake-Ansem in the first game
Ansem
>aggressive and overconfident, speaks with authority at all times
>wants Kingdom Hearts to obtain the ultimate power of darkness
Xemnas
>somber, cool and collected
>wants Kingdom Hearts (allegedly) to reobtain his lost heart
Old Man Xehanort
>manipulative, calculating, does everything with purpose
>wants Kingdom Hearts to become God probably
They aren't really "exactly the same."
The first one.
Who thought that Disney mix in shit could possibly be a good idea?
>>321729412
Who is the most autistic nort?
>>321729412
I don't know anon I always got a tone of authority in Xemnas' voice but that's just me, but I agree with you on everything else.
>>321729809
Old Man Xehanort due to the fact that he has back up plans for his back up plans.
>>321729809
Probably Old Man Xehanort, simply because of the meticulousness with which he sets up the entire series of plans he made
>>321729684
The Disney stuff is what makes it so potent.
Mixes perfectly with the whole generic JRPG loss of innocence plot.
It's not just protagonist's loss of innocence, it's your own as highlighted by all the movies that you used to watch so dearly.
I know it's impossible since Disney owns the franchise, but I would like to see them try something without the Disney though.
Their original worlds and characters are pretty comfy.
It hasnt come and Ive been playing since the first one came out when I was 12.
>>321729275
organization 13 was introduced in CoM though
It would be stupid to not to kill some of them off on the game they are introduced in.
Not to mention you can fight them all in 2FM
>>321729684
same here. the disney stuff was cute. I loved running around the levels untillll!!!
I discovered every level had exactly the same plot and characters as the movies. Missing puppies? Cruella DeVille has them. Evil hunter is menacing the apes! go get Tarzan. Fucking lame.
the button mashing was boring, the plot was literary diarrhea written by autistic monkeys who spent a half hour in the hallway outside a philosophy class.
God, I hate Kingdom Hearts. The GBA game was decent, though.
>>321730310
>organization 13 was introduced in CoM
Terranorts followers are mentioned in KH1
Playing KH2.5 and BBS is just so barren. Huge, empty rooms with nothing in them and the ball in Cinderella world had 2 fucking people dancing.
It really shows that it was a port of a PS2 game. Also I'm playing as Terra right now and the gameplay is kind of...not good. Does it get good? I just beat Cinderella world.
>>321730393
Yeah but as the Apprentices if you want to be technical. I'm pretty sure that anon meant actual appearances.
>>321730453
It'll get better as you go on.
>>321730453
*PSP game
>>321724167
I never paid attention to the story beyond seeing how much of a train wreck it can become. If KHIII doesn't top everything else so far in absurdity I'm going to be disappointing. Being able to go through levels based on Disney stuff while experiencing the clusterfuck is just a bonus.
>>321730357
>untillll!!!
You have to be 18 or older to post here
>>321730541
Well you were kinda right the first time anon, I believe that BbS started off as a PS2 game.
2 was stupid but straightforward, everything afterward was when it became convoluted shit
>>321730453
It gets better. Terra's the worst.
I just wished the Disney elements mattered more. Since 2 it just feels like a Final Fantasy with Disney cameos. Has that changed?
>>321730797
Apparently they're aware of this and working on it for 3. The Big Hero 6 world is being worked on closely with it's creators and will have an original story.
>>321730797
>Final Fantasy with Disney cameos
The FF characters are the least relevant in the entire series
>>321726304
I just always thought that it's the heart of the universe itself. Like how each world has a heart there's a big one just floating out there somewhere.
When I realized you have to play the shitty handhelds to follow the story
>>321726304
I thought Kingdom Hearts was light
I'm not bothered by the convoluted story at all. The remixes that are available clear up everything you need to know and they are all pretty fun games.
>HEARTS
>DARKNESS
>MEMORIES
>NOBODIES
>LIGHT
It's an enjoyable rollercoaster.
>>321725996
This video is such a mess.. just like Kingdom Hearts.
How do you make something so stupidly complicated?
I don't play KH for the story so I don't care how clusterfuck it gets
>>321731143
>Follow
>KH story
>>321731630
It's not that hard.
>>321731143
>I have to play these shitty games that I would only know to be shit if I had played them already
Uh
>>321731630
>thinks it's acceptable to admit being unable to follow the story
It's inane, not complex. You're basically at retard levels of reading comprehension if you cannot understand the lore. I don't know why people are so willing to admit that they are confused about certain aspects of KH. It's for children. You're stupider than a child if you cannot figure it out.
>>321731695
No, its not its just...silly.
Iam actually a big fan of the series, but you have to admit that the story is lost in its tracks. The time travel shennannigan from DDD was my limit. I hope the 3 is more BBS than DDD.
>>321731910
>If you dont like, you dont understand 2DEEP4U MATE.
Just kill yourself.
>>321728932
> this video isn't available in your country
> this video isn't available in your country
> this video isn't available in your country
O-ok..
>>321731024
The FF characters all look like shit in KH. Cloud's design is deviant-tier shit.
>>321732238
I've yet to see any KH fan who legitimately likes the time travel of 3D, so I'm with you on that as a fan of the series.
>>321732349
KH1 yeah but that's because his design was combined with Vincent's when Nomura decided to not use him. KH2 is fine.
>>321730453
Yes. Combat starts slow, you need to keep fusing and getting more combos and drives to get the good shit going. It can become pretty intense later on.
Keep in mind this is a PSP game.
>>321732305
Hi Germany
>>321732635
Not quite.
>>321732768
Well it's Exodus '04 anyway
>>321732238
>Getting called out on being a retard so hard that you resort to making up your own argument to topple over instead of the one you are quoting
Never said I liked the story retard, said you're an idiot if you can't follow it. Nice job further proving how shit you are at reading comprehension. Have fun in your middle school english class
>>321732938
Yeah, youre great, wow.
>>321733045
>announcing on /v/ that you find a kids game hard to follow
>follow that statement up with a complete misinterpretation of the reply calling you out
And now you're implying that anyone would feel accomplished about being able to comprehend a game for little kids, you just can't stop making yourself look stupid.
>>321724946
>I wish the story wasn't such a fucking mess
Its not. Anyone with an IQ over 70 knows exactly what's happening in the story.
The only people that say its confusing and a mess are the people that only played 1 and 2 and wonder why they don't understand the story.
>>321733297
As said, youre great, congratulations.
You feel good for every (You) that you receive, rigth?
I'm not exaggerating when I say this. I don't understand the appeal of Kingdom Hearts to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if this was all one joke everybody's playing on me for the last decade. All I want is for someone to sit me down and tell me why they like Kingdom Hearts and how they are able to get past all dumb bullshit.
>>321733349
It was okay until DDD introduced time-travel and brought some absolutely terrible out-of-the-ass plot twists.
Nomura at this point is Kishimoto of the gaming industry
>>321726016
She's not pissed about singing in english.
She's pissed when Disney forces her to rewrite and resing songs in english.
She didn't like being forced to make Sanctuary and Simple and Clean.
She says that ruined the original songs of Hikari and Passion.
I kind of agree with her. The original songs are so much better.
>>321733349
>only played 1 and 2
You're giving these people too much credit. They likely have played every single game and still cannot even begin to process the story past the first one without having a stroke.
It's pathetic that they think it's normal to be unable to comprehend a kids game.
>>321733560
Itsfunanon, like all other series, has its up and downs, but has great games. 2 and BBS is fantastic.
>>321724167
The first one.
This is literally the worst mistake in video game history, way worse than E.T. on Atari 2600.
>>321733560
I think that the gameplay is fun and it's interesting to see what they do with it in each game, I like some of the characters, and I don't think overtly hard about the story.
>>321733560
KH II FM is my favourite game because:
- Awesome fun combat
- Comfy art style
- God-tier OST
- Being able to kick ass to the whole FF crew and Sephiroth
- One of the best boss fights in the history of vidya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOkne5NfPwQ
>>321733560
The gameplay is fun
The music is great
The aesthetic is pleasant
I've always loved the story but I think my favorite part about it is that I have to piece it together.
I think that's fun.
>>321733739
>way worse than E.T. on Atari 2600
>>321733425
If you consider someone great for being able to follow the story of a game made for children, that's your brain damage, not mine.
>>321733560
I grew up with the disney stuff and have been an avid FF fan since I was like 9.
The gameplay is good enough to entertain me even if it isnt at the level of DMC.
I enjoy the batshit plot that it has become and generally like the stupid amount of zippers nomura added to everything.
All the dumb shit is part of the fun and should be taken at face value.
>>321733818
This.
>>321729412
Xehanort doesn't want Kingdom Hearts. Stop spreading this bullshit.
Xehanort just wants Kingdom Hearts to appear so he can start another keyblade war and "see what happens" after that.
>>321733754
>tfw KHIII will never have a combat this awesome because Osaka team.
>>321733754
My favorite part is the battle in Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden. Great fan service, everyone thinking Goofy was dead and the battle with Sephirot. Really. 2 is a fucking solid 10/10.
>>321725996
I played the first two main series games and this actually did help me understand the games I didn't play a bit better.
>>321733989
Already seems to be like BBS 2.0 gameplay in the recent trailers.
RIP
>>321733560
>gameplay is fun
>leveling is solid in terms of when you get what abilities, how frequent it is, and how much it alters the difficulty
>lots of content
>memorable bosses
>great soundtrack
>quick and easy to get around, very little load time, easy to hop in and out
>Disney villains are neat
It's a video game, if you do not like the gameplay, you're likely to not like the game. If you're treating the game like it's a book, you're doing it wrong.
>>321733970
Anon that's not his whole plan. Him getting the true KH to appear is a part of his grand plan, the Keyblade War thing is a part of it.
>>321730453
Command melding or whatever it's called can get pretty cool later on, as are the finishers. Also I don't care what anybody says I liked shotlocks.
Terra's also the worst, Ven plays more like you're used to, i.e. Sora, and Aqua is pretty cool/unique if you can into rolling and cuh-razy magic combos
>>321733970
>he hasn't read the Xehanort Reports
>>321733989
If h.a.n.d. can go from Days to Re:coded, anything is possible
>>321733613
>out-of-the-ass
Not really. Everything that happened in DDD was foreshadowed in earlier games.
>>321734162KHfag?
>>321728932
I really hope not. Also if they bring her back, they'll probably do a new song for her.
>>321730453
>Does it get good?
If you take it as its own thing - maybe.
If you're straight out of KH II - no, don't even hope.
>>321734194
Aside from the actual time-travel, half-xehanorts and Mansex knowing that nobodies can grow hearts.
>it's a hundred acre wood level
>CRAZY SUNSHINEstarts playing
>>321734162
Actually that's where Xehanort talks about wanting to know what happened after the Keyblade war.
>>321734125
The keyblade war doesn't start until the True KH is revealed. He wants the keyblade war. Kingdom Hearts is just the means to an end. Not his goal.
>>321734364
>Mansex knowing that nobodies can grow hearts
That was foreshadowed as early as Days.
>>321734162
Re:Coded has better combat than Days? It's the only one I haven't played. I thought it was the worst in all aspects.
>>321733754
>"God-tier OST"
Oh man, the music in the Mirage Arena was amazing. I have only ever emulated BBS and even without multiplayer, I'd stand in the lobby for hours just listening to that music play.
https://youtu.be/lMU08Fe8DK0
>>321734556
Re:Coded is awesome. Shut your mouth.
>>321734424
What are you talking about? You have your events mixed up. Xehanort wants to recreate the events of the Keyblade War namely the clash of Light to Darkness in the right ratio to get the X-Blade to form in order to open Kingdom Hearts. From there we wants to rebalance the Universe as he feels it's too much in light's favor. The Keyblade War was an event that took place long before the main storyline and caused the original split of the universe into the many worlds you visit through the series. Unchained X/X/X Back Cover all over the period of time that's right before the war.
>>321734565
you know you can do all of the mirage arena minus the VS mode alone right?
KH needs another spinoff where one day Pluto finds a key to the Kingdom Hearts door and they decide to just give the key to whoever wins a wrestling tournament. It can use the wwe2k15 engine
>>321725996
I laughed.
>>321734694
You got the events right, but in the wrong order.
He wants the clash of Light and Darkness to create the X-blade, which will reveal Kingdom Hearts, which will start a new Keyblade War.
>>321734709
Yep, and once I was done with that, I felt little need to return. Still let the game sit at the lobby just to have the music play in the background.
>>321724619
This.
Holy shit , KH3D made no sense.
Gameplay was awesome though
>>321734225Forgot my trip
>>321734424
http://www.khwiki.com/Xehanort_Reports
>And when Kingdom Hearts is complete, it is said the one who opens its door will bring about the creation of the Next World. Such a feat is above any human. Or, to put it a different way: whoever opens that door will be reborn as something far greater than human.
>I believe a balance of light and darkness is what sustains our World, but too much of the darkness has been stamped out, disrupting that balance. Someone must tear down this tyranny of light and reorganize the World around the darkness which then creeps back in.
He's trying to become God, dude
Inciting a Second Keyblade War is just a bonus.
Besides, Braig straight up says in "Destiny" that nobody actually knows what Xehanort's really planning, not even his past self.
>>321734556
Give it a try and make your own opinion.
>>321734830
>Xehanort's Report IX
>We Keyblade Masters have a special gift. We can extract a heart, be it our own or that of another. By continuing this cycle, it is possible to remain in the world of the living forever.
As a boy, I dreamed of seeing the farthest reaches of the World. If I only went far enough, there had to be a world out there in which no one had ever before set foot. And now I know of just such a world. If I become the first to open Kingdom Hearts' door, I can create a Next World in which light and darkness exist in perfect equilibrium.
>So there I stood, with vast knowledge in one gnarled, dying hand, and newfound purpose in the other. The next step was clear: I needed a new vessel.
>And that was when I met Ventus and made him my pupil. We were destined to meet, and I could sense the potential within him, but the boy was too benign for his own good. I came to the conclusion he was too frail to serve as a vessel, and decided to use him for a second purpose I had in mind.
>I would remove the darkness from his heart and split him in two. Then I would have my heart of pure light, and my heart of pure darkness.
> If I become the first to open Kingdom Hearts' door, I can create a Next World in which light and darkness exist in perfect equilibrium.
>>321735075I always know when it's you.
>>321728973
358 + 7 makes 365 but those last 7 days happened in KH2 meaning that the game shows you what happened to the previous ones, the /2 days is probably a reference to Roxas and Axel or Xion
Or that you can beat this game in 2 days like I did
>>321724167
The only game I liked was Chain of Memories.
>>321735537
>days can be beaten in 18 hours
it took me light 60+ but I did every mission and all the bonus objective things and fooled around solo on multiplayer a bit.
I forget some people don't 100% games
>>321724167
When it waited over 10 years for it's 14 year old fanbase to grow up and not give a shit anymore
>>321735876
based on that apostrophe, you're probably younger than 14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-NoyqzGkY
>>321724167
After Kingdom Hearts 1.
So at least some people in here love Kingdom hearts right? I have qa question for you guys
Should I play the PS2 Chain of Memories or the GBA one? All I care about is gameplay not graphics or anything else that a PS2 version would make inherently better.
>>321737279
Personally I preferred the GBA version.
>>321737279
GBA is faster and that's the main advantage it has.
Re:CoM adds new mechanics to Reverse/Rebirth which make that the go-to version, for R/R at least.
Sora's Story is pretty much identical.
The final boss has a new stage in Re:CoM.
I would argue that the boss fights in general are better in Re:CoM.
Honestly it doesn't matter which one you pick.
If you have the time I would give both versions a shot.
Although it may not matter if you wind up disliking the battle system.
shitty sjw trash game
BBS, introduced EVEN MORE DEEP LORE and a god awful design like Vanitas and the Xblade without the benefit of fun gameplay
>>321728932
this is from when Timbaland was trying to get her popping here in the US
>>321739725
I stopped making sense out of it since 3DDD
Though it was really CoM since it introduced the nobodies
>>321732813
I know. Maybe it's cause i'm on mobile.
>>321733989
Just keep your hopes up anon, the trailers have been showing improvement little at a time. I'm positive the game will play just right when everything's all finalized, I'm more concerned about game balance if anything. I just don't want attraction flows to be Thunder Surge/Balloon/Stitch 2.0.
>2015
>still playing kingpoop farts
Can someone give me the lowdown of what happens in DDD? I understand (kind of) the story up to that point. Why do they look like their younger selves n shit?
>>321747263
>— In the latter half of The World That Never Was, despite returning to the real world, why do Sora and co. stay in that form and why do Dream Eaters appear etc?
Nomura: Sora and co.’s form is due to Yen Sid’s magic, so the way it works is that they can’t turn back until they return to the Mysterious Tower, and Dream Eaters were appearing because Sora was still asleep.
>>321726304
The heart of all worlds
Ansem says this in 1
I'm assuming it's the gathering place for all hearts when people die. So basically Heaven.Unless you go to hell like Auron
>>321725996
>>321725698
What
The literal
Fuck?
How did someone even come up with this shit? This is why I stopped playing KH after 358/2 Days
>>321750001
Ok then what is a heart in the KH universe? If even worlds have hearts what the fuck is a heart?
>>321734407He swung the bat
>>321724167
The less sense the story makes the more I enjoy it.
>>321733560
Gameplay is pretty radical, there's nothing else quite like it. It's pretty fucking hardcore on higher difficulties too, Critical is a brilliant mode that all ARPGs and Action games should employ in some manner.
I love the combination of Disney art and fiction with generic JRPG shticks, they blend in a very cute yet funny manner, even if somewhat cringeworthy at times. The secret to enjoying it is to leave your cynicism behind and immerse the inner child in you. Lots of shit doesn't make sense. It doesn't need to, the elements in the story are abstract as fuck and more about conveying a message than a clear logical flow.
There's really nothing like KH and that makes it very interesting in it's own way. Was the story not questionably retarded at times? It was.
Is the gameplay always top tier? It's not.
But it has a lot of soul, and I think that accounts for alot of the appeal.
Also it has god-tier soundtrack. Even if Hikaru was abused to hell and back.
>>321750835
Nomura has said that's kind of a more eastern thing. When he first presented that concept to the Disney execs they didn't quite get it.
>>321752597
I think you're thinking of the BbS opening thing.
>-- Considering the conversation between Sora and Ventus in the ending of the Last Episode, is this saying that the "just-born heart" that Ventus connects with in the opening is Sora's?
Nomura: Yes. At first we supposed that it could be Sora before he was born, but because of opinions from overseas that "the heart doesn't exist until after birth", we discarded that portrayal.
As for the idea of a heart in general, it's basically a soul and all living things have it, which could be considered Eastern but is also an attitude present in Native Americans, among other cultures I'm sure.
I can't believe this image is still relevant. Nomura you fox.
Anyway, Marluxia confirmed for kh3.
>>321753072
Nah I was talking about this:
>–What is the definition of a heart in Kingdom Hearts?
>Nomura: It is the theme of the series. To explain it simply, a person has a body, a soul, and a heart. As an image, the soul is the life source, without it a person would be dead. Since the heart doesn’t have a form, memories play an important part in forming a heart. Also, the heart isn’t limited to people, but to all things. I tried to explain this concept to Disney, and they merely said that it must be an Eastern way of thinking. It may be interesting how overseas players think of it.
>http://www.khinsider.com/news/New-Famitsu-Interview-with-Tetsuya-Nomura-908
And here's another interview where I believe he's talking about the same Disney executive story:
> Are there modifications to the story to suit overseas fans?
>Nomura:I believe that if the story is interesting, it will be well received; so it isn't regulated only for specific regions. Though those at Disney said it has a very Japanese sense about it, I guess you could call it ‘Eastern thinking.' (Laughs) Still, I had been thinking that I would make the story more clear and simpler. But while I was developing the first Kingdom Hearts, I received a single piece of advice from Sakaguchi-san*. That was, "If you don't make it more complex like with Final Fantasy, you won't be able to compete." So accordingly, I decided to develop the story in a way that fans could imagine on their own the remaining story how they like.
>http://www.khinsider.com/news/Famitsu-Weekly-Interview-July-2011-2111
And then there's the actual story which I'm trying to track down, but he's said it a couple of times.
>>321753315
What image?
>>321753532
That one.
>>321753532
The new Kingdom Hearts III trailer featured a new Nobody design with a scythe and flower petals, is this particular Nobody alluding to a certain former Organization member?
Nomura: I think that it’s easy to imagine but I do believe that it will appear in promotional materials sooner or later so please wait for that.
http://www.khinsider.com/news/Exclusive-Interview-with-Tetsuya-Nomura-on-Kingdom-Hearts-2-8-KH3-6231
>>321753595
What?
>>321753634
I was taking what image were you saying was relevant because you didn't post or link anything. I know about the Marluxia Nobody.
This game births the greatest of all autists in any game fanbase. (Maybe on par with OoT spergers)
I can immediately tell which cringelorde is a KH fan because of the pants, wristbands, or chains they wear.
OBLIGATORY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2e7bX2oVlQ
Please shelve this shit away or more of you will start popping up
>>321750001
>turns out Hades owned Kingdom Hearts all along and he was just fucking with everybody
>>321724253
>/thread'ing yourself
Kill yourself my man
>>321753920
>Implying you didn't do that shit with your friends in the backyard
>>321754127
>/r9k/
>>321754127
real boys played wrestling not this gay ass shit
plus they look about 17
>>321754127
I have imagine my own OC chaaracter and adventures in the KH universe but it has always stayed in my imagination where it belongs.
is there a version of chain of memories that doesn't use the card combat system? I wanna finish it but I got stuck on the riku vs dark riku fight cause his deck was stacked as fuck.
>>321754670
Nope.
>>321724657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBkOyTCHTVc
:^)
>>321754825
>not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaCrK2qL1VQ
>>321754825
Kingdom Hearts 3D really 'convoluted' the story in a sense. Everything we thought we knew about the organisation was wrong and was a false flag, they didn't need Roxas or Xion to complete Kingdom Hearts and regain hearts. Turns out some of the organisation had regrew hearts anyway. They were basically being mislead dicking around on missions while Xemnas and Xigbar planned to make them all vessels. It's likely Xigbar and Saix were already converted into Norts judging by their eyecolour.
Some of the org members started dicking around and plotting in Castle Oblivion and getting rekt by Sora and Riku, meaning they were temporarily missing in action until they were reborn as somebodies. As of Kingdom Hearts 3D, we don't know how many members of the Org. were reborn really, except for Lea. Because some of the organisation went rogue, Xehanort went time travelling to gather his former/future selves to fill in the void left by the rogue members, along with additional new members (Sora almost, as Roxas was gone at this point, and one of Terra/Aqua/Ventus as Xehanort points out atop his throne).
Xemnas was also aware Ven was hidden in Castle Oblivion and the only way he could know this was if Aqua had communicated with him via her armor or something (hello, old friend from KH2FM). I don't see why Aqua told him - either she sensed Terra's body and wanted to help, or Aqua was temporarily Norted in the realm of darkness as some of /v/ predict happened and then relayed Ven's location to Xemnas, but he send his incompetent stooges to find Ven and obviously they couldn't.
I also don't get how Time Travel was even possible and how exactly Xehanort discovered it before anyone else. Also is Xehanort basically a Hannibal Lecter like psychopath who is merely ''curious'' about what would happen after another keyblade war? Seems like it. Also fuck this storyline, there is just a whole lot going on.
Anyone have any other predicitions for BBS 0.2? Did Aqua and Mickey fall out?
>>321755203
The biggest problem with 3d and bs was the gameplay, some minor but key aspects were dropped from kh1 and kh2 about how enemies respond to being hit and how bosses were programmed which lead to peaple ignoring physicals attacks and jus going straight to the broken deck tactics.
>>321754980
not this
She's got the weaboo shirt and everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqX610isqyQ
I've been with this game rain or shine. I played 358 Days and 3D, both or which were trash. I read III is being made by the same guys who worked on 3D and BBS, so I'm trying my best to keep my head up high.
>>321755441
I wasn't a huge fan of the command system either which encourages spamming high damage attacks over and over. At least KH3 will focus more on the traditional KH1 & 2 combat according to Nomura. Hopefully invincibility frames and other garbage like that aren't an issue either.
>>321755641
The gameplay clips from kh3 so far looks like they have made fied the problems in 3ds and bbs.
>>321724167
I actually watched all the cutscenes of the first game yesterday. It really went off the rails when Maleficent died and they moved away from Disney cross-over to O.C.Storyline. Tons of new plot-threads appeared all of a sudden and the game refused to explain any of them. They just assume you knew everything already, instead they took hours to spell out basic character interactions. Kingdom Hearts is not complex or deep, the storytelling is just shit, which is frustrating because some of the concepts are actually interesting.
Also, pic related from the sequel. They introduced 7 new characters all with the same outfit, most of the time with their faces covered and yet for the most part we are meant to distinguish them based on their voices alone over hours of gameplay. Then two or three additional characters show up with the same outfit and covered up faces but they don't belong to the bad guys. Did nobody think this through? I don't want to take a college course just to play a freaking disney game.
>>321755203
I feel like Aqua forces Mickey to leave her.
>>321755941
>They introduced 7 new characters all with the same outfit, most of the time with their faces covered and yet for the most part we are meant to distinguish them based on their voices alone over hours of gameplay.
You do realize that they all have differences in their coats right? Meaning that Xigbar's sleeves are tigther than Xemnas' because his arms are skinnier while not as tight as Axels and so on and so forth. Some of them have shoulder pads and others don't, etc.
I really thought it was 2 for the longest time until I went back and payed kh2fm. That shit is near perfect.
Khbbs however, has horrible gameplay and that is my breaking point.
>>321724167
>>321724253
>>321724726
The problem wasn't Kingdom Hearts II, the problem was when they tried to move it away from being a few games on the Playstation 2 to a mega-game epic across every platform. Nobody can be expected to follow the story across the GBA, the DS, the 3DS, the PSP, and whatever else.
>>321755941
Characters with hidden identities is nothing new. Hardly something I think you would need a college course to grasp.
As >>321756083 points out there are physical differences and of course, their very distinct voices which let the audience tell them apart until their faces are finally revealed.
If you couldn't tell the difference between "I've been to see him" and "oopsy-daisy," that's probably 100% you.
>>321756083
Their shadowy trench coats that they wear in the shadows are different is your defense? Really?
>>321756237
But people did, why do you think they kept making the handheld games? They sold millions each.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adV5xbhvfLo
I must admit this commercial did blow my mind when I first saw it.
2
Elemental Keyblades, hooded faggots, shit magic and MP, etc.
2 fucked up the plot.
Every game since then has been dedicated to filling in the plot holes.
>>321724167
chain of memories
>>321755942
Idk senpai, she seemed pretty depressed by the ending of Blank Points. I thought she would have jumped at the opportunity of escape. She definitely tells Mickey where Ven's body is I think (Mickey says he's close to figuring out where Ven's heart is at the end of Recoded). I never finished Chain of memories but did Mickey ever do or hint to anything about looking for Ven inside the castle during that game?
What's up with OP pic, the colors are totally off. In the newer trailers the saturation is still ridiculous even for a "cartoony" look and it seems like they purposefully chose a clashing palette for almost every location.
>>321756852
Mickey met here befoer blank points, or maybe time is so fucking warped in the realm of darknes tha could of happened before she met Mickey but in reall time that was the after the ending of kh1.
>>321756852
>She definitely tells Mickey where Ven's body is I think (Mickey says he's close to figuring out where Ven's heart is at the end of Recoded).
That was because of what he learned from Data-Naminé.
This is long after either of his visits to the RoD, so it's safe to say he didn't receive that information from Aqua (not that she would even know).
>I never finished Chain of memories but did Mickey ever do or hint to anything about looking for Ven inside the castle during that game?
Not that I recall. R/R is very Riku-focused and much of his dialogue with Mickey is character building.
>>321757020
in the new trailer the 0.2 looks like it's 60fps but robably won't be, I wonder what affect they are doing to achieve that
1.
Could never get over how retarded the keyblade was.
>>321724167
when they decided to span the series over seventeen different platforms and i became older than 15.
1 and 2 are pretty great though.
>>321724167
When i had to buy two nintendo handhelds to play 3 games which 2 of them where important for the story.
>>321724167
None. I liked all the games and they got better and more interesting.
>>321725225
>he didn't play the handheld titles
