Ok so which processor is better for gaming?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103993
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113378
Right now i have the quad core but its way too slow for a lot of games. But is dual core good enough?
>>321682023
>AMD
never fucking ever even touch that shit.
get Intel i5. Any model. And matching mobo.
Get a fucking gpu if you want to play games retard, integrated is just for the poorest of budget builds
>>321682023
AMD is shit dude
Don't even put it on your radar of you want a decent gaming experience
>AMD
lel
and don't take my word for it, look up benchmarks
also AMD is shit for emulation too, apparently
>>321682446
he's probably asking what CPU is better to buy along with a GPUhopefully, but yes, OP could be yet another retard
Alright thanks. I'll just save up some money and get and intel probably. No point wasting money on shit
>>321682764
and yeah i have a pretty good gpu already. Just a shit cpu
A-series is shit and will give you uncomfortable temperatures unless you get an after-market cooler. I'm going to assume the other one is shit too.
If you're a poorfag who cannot wait for a CPU, go for shit like the fx-6300 or something along those lines, nothing worse.
Otherwise don't bother with that shit and go for i5
>>321682815
If you have a motherboard that can take an AM3+ chip then picking up a 6300 or a 8320 would be your best options for a cheap upgrade. Picking up an i5 you're looking at what will likely be a $300+ upgrade because you'll need a new motherboard and likely new RAM as well.
i5 2500k master race
>>321682023
>AMD processor
look when people tell you no and get intel they are not joking, it's not some meme. fucking don't get an amd processor.
>>321683112
>>321683076
Right on. Thanks for advise
>>321682023
considering i3s can be OCd now, I think AMD is dead forever for gaming
>>321682023
I have an AMD and it's garbage. It only picks up low graphics and if you even try to run a AAA game the graphics will shit out.
>>321682023
AMD not as bad as these faggots make out. Vast majority of games are run by your GPU anyway. The only game I can think of that is using 95% cpu is ARMA3, which runs absolutely fine on my fx8530.
I can also emulate ps2 and wii at 60 fps.
Also the fx8350 is about half the price of i5.
>>321682023
if you are broke
amd 6/8xxx
if you are not broke
best i5 you can get
if you are smart and can still play current games
wait till next year as new processors and gpus are set for release.
>amd CPU
don't do it lad
>>321682023
Don't get AMD. I mean they're not a bad company it's just their hardware isn't ideal for gaming.
Not OP, I got a plan, I want to build a new rig, using it for multiple purposes so gaming + video editing, audio production, CG modelling and gaming.
Getting an i7 5820K and (for now) a GTX 960 and sell that right before the Pascal chips are released next year, just to save a bit of money.
Any thoughts?
The build will be roughly £1200.
And yeah OP, go for i5 but if you've got cost restrictions, AMD FX is decent enough just AMD stuff uses up so much power and goes so hot. It's inefficient.
>>321684586
>Any thoughts?
sounds like a good plan for your needs. I'd also recommend more than 8GB of RAM, just to be sure with those editing jobs.
>>321683697
Hopefully not, if Intel gains a monopoly we can expect more stagnation and higher prices for ever smaller gains. The fact that an i5 2500 is still relevant for gaming should not be celebrated. Rather we should be decrying the fact that we've had no progress in years.
Hopefully AMD can become relevant again with the 14nm process and the Zen cores next year. If they can't soon we'll be having to recommend i7 CPUs for gaming.
Seems like a good thread to ask in, I can only afford at the moment an upgrade to either my CPU or graphics card, which should I do first? Is bottlenecking when a graphics card is more powerful than the CPU or vice versa?
>AMD anything
>gaming
>ever
>>321684735
For now, going 16GB for now, 4x4 for the four channel motherboard thing. Moving onto 32GB afterwards.
> cpu bottlenecking
> ever
>>321684820
Depends greatly on what CPU and GPU you have, but in general the GPU matters more than the CPU for gaming. Far too many people here do stuff like >>321684586 do spending $300+ on the CPU but less than $200 on the GPU when normally those numbers should be reversed for gaming.
>>321684781
>we should be decrying the fact that we don't have to spend $600 every 6 months to play the latest and greatest meme game
Don't you have a train set to be playing with in the basement?
>>321682023
>But is dual core good enough?
Only if you got a really good IPC.
AMD is abysmal at per-core performance.
>>321685108
That's the thing, once the Pascal chipset comes out, I'm going straight for a good mid to high range one that's £400+
>>321682815
If you buy one of the faster FX chips, you can easily "survive", most of the time even on high settings.
It's just that for emulating and other single/dual-core tasks (and even games), i5s are far superior.
>>321682023
are you retards aware that games very rarely actually use cpu anymore?
do you understand what a GPU is and why they are probably the most expensive piece of hardware in a gaming PC, well do you?
CPUs are for render farms.
>>321685409
don't listen to this ignorant moron
>>321682023
>AMD
I seriously hope they have a new chip architecture and chipset ready for release soon.
Bulldozer was a massive misfire that copied everything wrong that Intel did with the Pentium 4. One can only wonder about what went on at AMD at the time.
>>321685703
Keep telling yourself this
Hope you enjoy your integrated gpu.
>>321685409
>games very rarely actually use cpu anymore?
/v/ 2015
>>321685875
>amd
>something new
the didin't do nothing new since 2012
>>321685887
Since when did Phenom IIs come with a igpu?
>>321685875
AMD had suffered massive losses when they were on top technologically because the money they invested in R&D didn't produce returns. People bought Intel either because they were too stupid to understand who had the superior product, or they had some sort of silly brand loyalty to the bigger company.
As a result AMD cut their R&D budget, lost key people like Jim Fucking Keller and was forced to hire the cheapest people they could, many of whom were the people responsible for Pentium 4.
Why they took so long to axe those people, go back to their older designs, and bring back people who know how to build chips is beyond me.
Their new Zen architecture, designed by Keller comes out next year and is really the last chance to have competition in the PC CPU market as we know it today. If people once again buy Intel when AMD has a superior product we'll probably be screwed over royally by Intel until PC gaming goes multiarch with ARM support but that's probably 5-10 years away.
>>321686797
Even if Zen is impossibly powerful, on the level of going from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge, it won't matter much. Intel is a "good" company because they run as many dirty tricks as legally possible, AMD simply can't and won't do the same. They're fated to either die off or become yet another company peddling ARM.
>>321686797
From what I read, the Bulldozer was supposed to be an attempt to move to automated tools, but that doesn't explain why it was such a misfire. If that were actually the case, Piledriver and Steamroller cores should have been massive improvements in performance once they figured out the tools.
There really wasn't anything wrong with the Hammer architecture that couldn't be fixed with process improvements and a new chipset.
Normally, I would lay the blame at share holders and Hector Ruiz. These were the idiots that forced AMD to sell its mobile division just before it exploded (thanks to the iPhone no less).
I can only hope Zen is absolutely amazing.
>>321685409
this guy.
Third cpu merchant when?
6xxx was disappointing.
>>321685108
GPUs become obsolete much faster than CPUs so it's not as foolish as you think
>all this JIDF
the FX cores are dirt cheap
FX core with a good GPU will run everything on the market right now. no sweat. they are not as power efficient as intel but they are so fucking cheap and do the job.
>>321687787
never
>>321687874
>on the market right now. no sweat.
Shilling for team x does no make you any better than the shills on team y.
FX is shit, and most definitely will no run most things "no sweat".
>>321688061
They also end up costing more in the long run because of electricity.
>>321687528
The problem with Bulldozer in a word is Intel. Everyone in the industry could see that single threaded performance is stagnant and a huge bottleneck, and AMD attempted to do something about it by pushing towards supporting more threads.
Intel though, rather than push forward opted to sit and wait even going as far as to put out a new overclockable CPU that only supports two threads. All because they had a minor advantage in single thread performance and most developers were just going to continue writing code for two to four threads max. Now that AMD is returning to focus on single thread performance I fully expect to see Intel push more cores with their process advantage.
>>321687874
>FX cores are dirt cheap
Not if you pay the electric bill. They're power pigs even at idle.
>>321687314
Both European and US regulators have been on to Intel's antics for a while. Intel's real competition now is ARM, which is doesn't have a real competitor. All of the power tricks they have used to try to smooth over issues with their aging x86 architecture have gone right back into the pockets of its competitors.
>>321685409
I have a Radeon R9 390x that can play anything out, period. The only thing that is stopping me from enjoying games to their fullest potential currently is my AMD Athlon II X4 from 2009 and the mobo/8gb ddr2 that came with it.
Kindly shut the fuck up.
>>321687874
>had FX
>change it to i5 2500k 2 months ago
>+ 30 fps in most games
>>321687787
Intel holds the x86 licensing power and until antitrust measures are taken against them the status quo is unlikely to change. AMD and Via only have a license in the first place because the military requires there to be multiple vendors but Intel has them on a tight leash and they're really only around for show with both forced into the low end. Intel needs to be broken up, separating the x86 licensing, the chip design, and the fab with the licensing board required to provide licenses to companies like Nvidia, and the fab required to produce chips for any vendor.
>>321688184
>>321688437
>literally not having a clue how much electricity costs
its fuck all mates
>>321688835
M-maybe someday.
Thanks for the learning though.
>>321688937
t. I live with my parents.
>>321688835
>inb4/pol/autists call you Bernie socialist scum
>>321688437
>Intel's real competition now is ARM
This is true, but until Valve realizes their long term plan to shift PC gaming from Windows/x86 to Linux/ARM that competition does very little for the enthusiast gaming space since ARM is today only competition for Intel in the low end SOC market.
What's a solid Intel upgrade from this CPU? I really need one along with a new mobo.
I actually bought a 380x to replace my 750 and a new psu a couple days ago, but the psu was defective and the 380x pulls way too much power for my current 500w. Any recommendations on that as well?
>>321689163
Depends on your budget m8.
Looking to spend ~500-600 to stay on high/ultra settings the next few years. I'm still on an old 16x9 monitor, but I'll probably get a 1920x1080 soon. Anyway, would just a CPU and GPU upgrade be enough?
>>321683867
>on my fx8530.
Post disregarded, post-purchase rationalization in full effect.
>>321682023
The 830 is a better processor in nearly every way but saving electricity costs. But if you have a Quad core from intel, it's likely as fast as that since the 830 is basically as powerful as Q6700 from 2008. It's not going to be a worthwhile upgrade.
>>321689163
There is no 'upgrade' you're effectively looking at building a new system. The only real upgrade available to you would be an Athlon X4 860k if your motherboard is FM2+, if its only FM2 then you're kind of screwed.
What you get depends entirely on how much you have to spend, but keep in mind that you'll also need a new motherboard, and possibly new RAM if you go Intel.
>>321689527
Forgot my pic like a dumbass.
kek amd
>>321685409
>CPUs are for render farms.
Yeah if you're living in fucking 2003. Holy shit no one renders on CPU based renders anymore. Octane, iRay, VRay, Redshift, MentalRay, RenderMan. It's all GPU now you moron.
>>321682815
yes, intel is where it's at
>>321689631
>would just a CPU and GPU upgrade be enough
Yeah, probably even just a GPU upgrade would be enough. Get something like a 380x and you'll be good at 1080p.
>>321689295
Usually I stay on the lower end of pricing because I'm not too worried about having everything on High or Ultra. However, I already know that if I'm buying Intel, it's not going to be cheap by any means, so I'm just getting input on what's good and what's upcoming so I can start saving up.
>>321689595
I kind of figured that'd be the case. It's dumb, but a while ago, I bought a CM HAF-912 which is fuckhuge for my tiny little desk, so I've been wanting to put it to use for some time now and a new motherboard is a start.
>>321689641
Even though it runs hot as shit, I actually like my 6800K. It's held up well for the price. This 380x, though? I've got some regrets about buying it.
>>321690283
>380x
Sweet, that's exactly the card I was considering for a more modest upgrade. I really don't need to upgrade from my i3 though? Seems I read somewhere that the hyperthreading wasn't enough anymore. Either way, thanks anon.
Who i7920 here?building an X99 system this spring
>>321682259
This.
>>321682815
>save up for intel
It's actually really inexpensive. If you'd get a Phenom, you'd obviously get used. i5s are mega cheap.
Even original i7s have more than 4 threads though.
-- http://www.cpu-world.com/info/Intel/Intel_Core_i7.html
>>321690310
If you can hold out for a few months you could get an AM4 motherboard and a cheap next-gen APU. Its possible we'll see some Zen chips in the same time frame, but its more likely that we'll see them in numbers during Q3 or Q4 next year. AMD's problem right now is that they haven't had an enthusiast CPU come out since the FX x3xx series parts, and all their CPU sockets are dead until AM4 launches.
If you want a somewhat future proof upgrade right now your only option is Intel's 6000 series parts.
>>321686797
They also lost several IP related lawsuits where intel was involved. This hurt their game badly.
>>321688454
Yeah AMD graphics cards are amazing, their cpu's are dogshit for gaming.
>>321682023
>amd cpu
never ever, child.
get any i5. it will do you fine. go to microcenter for cheap deals.
>tfw you go to microcenter next time you get paid
>tfw you get an i5 4690k for $180
will be a good feel come thursday
>that guy who bought amd for gaming
lol
>>321690815
>If you want a somewhat future proof upgrade right now your only option is Intel's 6000 series parts.
That's completely inaccurate. Even first gen i7s are barely less (and sometimes more) performance for games than the 6000 series.
>>321688454
Wut? That doesn't even have anything to do with brand. That's just... not upgrading for long periods of time.
>>321691046
>spending more than $150 for a two generation old 4 core CPU is considered a good deal.
This stagnation is a glimpse of the future, but even now there is still hope.
>>321690815
almost any i5 and i7 will be plenty good for 3 years minimum. people are still killing it with 2500k cpus.
>need intell 6xxx for future proof.
literally any i5 or i7 from the past 2 years would future proof yourself. obviously get a K series for OC
>>321689097
Yeah I don't get that about /pol/. They hate Jews, but for the most part vehemently defend the economic system that enables Jews to Jew in the first place.
If anything, you'd expect /pol/ to be full of communists because "no one owns anything when everyone owns everything" is the most anti-Jew policy there is.
>>321688364
>Intel push more cores
It didn't work for AMD, why would it work for Intel? Sure it may get consumers at first, but they will see soon enough that moarcoars doesn't translate into a better experience without moarthreds.
The 2-4 thread range is probably devs are going to bother with unless compiler tech abstracts away parallelism, Intel drops massive dosh on compiler research, or IBM gives its magical Octopiler tech away for free.
>>321690729
>>321691702
>>321691702
Its not inaccurate, everything else is on a dead socket.
>>321691924
>if you don't have a x99 board you aren't future proof
you should stop posting here. a z97 with a haswell refresh cpu will last 5 years.
Is there a reason to upgrade from a i7920 yet if you are running a GTX970 with it?
>>321690729
I hear people go
>Buying used computer parts
all the time on both /g/ and /v/. Are they serious about it or is it just a meme? Serious question because I'm looking to buy a CPU.
>>321692362
How do you hear them type that anon?
But yeah, used hardware is bad. You'll hear anecdotes on both sides, but just stay away.
>>321692342
If you're just gaming, probably not as you'll have to get a new mobo and memory, but if you want an ssd or do any productivity than yes you'll want to upgrade to Skylake or X99
How do I tell which i5/i7 is which version?
>>321682815
AMD A10 at 4.4 base will give you 60fps+ on Crysis 2. Anything more advanced shows signs of struggle, but its a worthy APU for the price
>>321692513
I already have an ssd with this rig. based from what you posted I assume its getting bottlenecked?
I have an evo840 currently and an evo 850 waiting if and when i do a new build. But if there is no real need then i might as well wait for something new to come out.
>>321692582
Magic 8 ball
Buy a 2500k and get a better GPU
>>321692582
by using google
>>321692170
>Stagnation is good!
This is the problem with the PC industry today.
>>321692582
Like which socket?
Or which one is from X line?
Can I do better for $500?
>>321692843
Which line
>>321690815
>>321692009
So then if I don't necessarily have to buy the latest/newest, then is the following a good deal?
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFire-Motherboard-Intel-i5-4690K/dp/B00L3OL1GO/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1451261750&sr=1-5&keywords=i5+4690k
>>321692684
I don't believe your chipset has SATA 3, so yeah you're getting bottlenecked there
As for waiting, Intel isn't coming out with anything new for a while now except some new high end X99 chips, so it's as good a time as any to upgrade
>>321692971
Aight, should i go full retard and splurge on X99 or stick with skylake?
>>321692859
What processor do you have?
>>321683702
I don't know I can play fo4 at 60 on ultra with fx 8320 4ghz and 270
>>321692806
=/=
DDR4 does fuck all to warrant the price right now.
And if you need that much storage, just build a NAS.
>>321692905
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors#64-bit_processors:_Intel_64_.E2.80.93_Sandy_Bridge_.2F_Ivy_Bridge_microarchitecture
>>321682023
Buy an OK amd processor and invest heavily on a videocard. Don't listen to /g/ memes parroted by retards on /v/. Those are the guys that bought 1440 ips monitors to watch anime and browse 4chan back in 2011, full retards.Mechanical keyboard are worth it though.
>>321693070
Do you do video/photo editing or content creation or other workstation tasks? If not than just stick with Skylake, it has lots of fancy new chipset features anyway and will give you a nice boost in performance, plus it has DDR4
>>321692917
What's the point of 'upgrading' from one dead CPU socket to another?
>>321693218
some music editing but it doesn't feel as CPU intensive
>>321693243
People don't think about that part, they just look at the numbers
>>321693075
i5-4690k
>>321693316
Just stick with Skylake, it will fill your needs nicely
>>321693334
Then get a Z chipset mobo, you'll just waste your money if you get a B chipset for an unlocked processor
>>321682023
If you are really short on cash, why not just get an intel g3258 for $60 and a gtx 750 ti for $110?
Way better than that shit
>>321692165
>implying socket is relevant if there are no games that require more performance
It'd be a decent idea reading the chart before replying.
>>321692362
>>321692510
There's really no reason to suggest that used parts are any worse, especially not at the price point of i7-9XXs. With basically any site, they're guaranteed non-DOA if they can be tested.
>>321692806
>implying it has anything to do with the actual PC industry
>>321692859
getting used
Speed rankings in order:
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Explore/Fastest/19
>>321693457
You'll kick yourself for only getting a dual core
An 860k +750ti is a better option
Whats that link with all these PC build from destitute tier to raichfag tier and a bunch of PC options for each tier with explanations on parts and monitors etc?
What a good link for these threads
>>321693679
logical increments/falcon guide.
>>321693679
That guide is shit.
I don't know why people hold Falcon to any merit.
>>321683867
This ^
AMD isn't bad, it's fags that suck the cock of a brand because they think it's trendy or something, the little Performance gains you get from an Intel does not constitute getting bent over money wise
get a i5 haswell, dont waste your oney on amd, i used them for years and last time sprung for the intel, never going back. seriously, just spend then extra money and dont have it be shit, same goes for graphics card just get a nvidia. they 50 bucks youll save isnt worth it.
>better for gaming
>>321693842
>the little Performance gains
wwwwwwwwwwwww
The great performance gains, efficiency, game stability,SC performance and more do though.
>>321693537
I remember back when we had large gains in performance every year and you would never think to recommend someone buy an older part. Our acceptance of Intel's forced stagnation of the industry is a nightmare that we need to break out of.
Save your money, wait for AM4 parts.
I got my little brother a G3258 Pentium CPU I heard they were easily overclockable
will that suit him fine? I myself have an I5 4690k but he only plays stuff like Counter Strike/Garry's mod probably going to pair his with a 750 ti
We need AMD to get their shit in gear if we are to have a healthy market, but currently they just dont compare. Sure you are saving a couple bucks, but in the end is that really worth it?
>>321694028
>efficiency, game stability
This. I have to reconnect several times to my dota 2 matches because my amd processor keeps restarting my pc.
>>321693537
I literally have no idea what you're trying to say. The R9 390 still ranks really highly on what you just posted.
>>321694324
>but in the end is that really worth it?
If all you do is gaming, browse /v/ and watch anime perhaps it is.
>>321694502
but even when it comes to gaming AMD just doesn't compare. They still function but if its a matter of 50$ then just spend it and get the better part
>>321694345
>my amd processor keeps restarting my pc.
Regardless of brand, sounds you have a bad OC.
>You bought AMD
>You defend AMD
>"i-its not as b-bad as p-p-puh-puh-people s-say..."
>>321694260
>Intel's forced stagnation
>implying AMD has even caught up
>implying you've still even read the chart from >>321691702
Video games.
>>321694356
>>Can I save money
>>Yes
What's a great full atx motherboard I made the mistake of when I built my PC first I got a micro-atx motherboard my case is a mid tower so it's fine I just don't want to shell out a ton of money for something I don't need
LGA 1150 socket
>>321694872
AMD was the value kings of PC gaming up until the Bulldozer misfire. Before that, their last major misfire not attributable to Intel or shareholders was tossing AGP support too early.
Via is off in their own little world; they honestly don't seem to know
If you were one of those poor kids stuck with a Cyrix proc back in the day, your friends will help you pull the trigger.
>>321693243
>>321693317
I've only heard good things about the 4690K, you raise a valid point. Guessing the i7s use a new socket type. Any idea what that is?
Or maybe I should just stick with what I've got? My 6800K really hasn't let me down too many times. Performs well with most games I play. The only time it's slightly fucked me is in Planetside 2.
>>321693842
Cherry picked inc
>>321694972
Again, it's still the exact same story. If I want a better GPU according to that list I would have to spend more than $330.
Take the Phenom (if you get one for under 50usd used) and overclock it and you'll be fine unless you want to play the newest and heaviest games on better than lowest settings. It's still fucking ancient though.
The other one is a fuggin dual core APU, you don't use that shit for gaming.
If you want to go low budget consider a Pentium anniversary edition or athlon 860k with an OC'able board
>>321694324
Intel has launched so many CPUs that the market is saturated. Most are minimal gains for vidya. The market is fine.
>>321694972
Intel is responsible for crippling AMD, but they can only do that because of the fanboys devotion of Intel. Right now everyone should be waiting to see what will happen with Zen. If AMD succeeds we all win, if they fail then we might as well pack it up and start learning to live with ARM because x86 will be on its slow march towards $1000 dual core 2GHz CPUs that perform .000001% better than last years model.
>>321693804
>>321695131
WHy is it shit? Prove it faggot
>>321695538
>Right now everyone should be waiting to see what will happen with Zen
Unless they have AMD, which would benefit from "upgrading" to Intel, even if it's a generation downgrade.
>>321695538
>If AMD succeeds we all win
>>321695561
i5s start at $950, yet most of the tiers before that would play games at a greater framerate with a $380 combo rig and literally any GPU.
>>321695674
Giving Intel now more money will only make the situation worse. If you have AMD now and you've waited this long for a new CPU another few months aren't going to hurt.
>>321695041
There's no reason to upgrade motherboards unless going SLI/XFire. SATA speeds are pretty standard, and USB 3.0 isn't worth the upgrade (if you don't already have it, even). The only thing USB is used for now is installing Windows and maybe LAN parties.
>>321695837
>comparing new to used
>>321695285
Can I not read. Where is 4790k
>>321695307
The point was that 380s are like $140 used. There are fresh GPUs coming, supposedly, as well.
Yet, just checking ebay, new 970s are about $300 as well.
>>321682023
Even a 1st gen i5 will wipe the floor with AMD. Just overclock the fuck out of it.
>>321688437
>electricity bill
Oh no! how will I ever afford an extra 5 maybe 10 dollars a year!!
>>321696902
7th
>>321696650
Everything but the GPU is new, hence "any GPU". That with >>321696910 is only $680, and it's literally top of the line.
>>321697084
So am I retarded in reading this, and the 4770k outperforms the 4790k?
>>321696910
>higher is better
So there are literally people out there who know what a video card is, but somehow never learned what frames per second are?
>CPU being a bottleneck in games
What fucking games are you guys even playing?
>>321697486
arma
>>321697486
Dolphin
>>321697306
OC as in OverClocked, the 4790k is not overclocked in that list. Everything above it is.
>tfw i7-skylake
feels good my man i can play games while i emulate and run a virtual machine
Just bought
>Intel i5 4690k
>EVGA GeForce gtx 970
>Asus z79-a
and I think tomorrow i'll probably buy
>Corsair RM 650w 80+ gold
in all it'll cost me £660-670
>>321695285
i dont get these benchmarks.
i mean, that is a cpu test, so a cpu will top at these fps no matter the graphic settings?
why am i getting 60 fps on my fx 6300 and 260x( all maxed but shadows and reflections]?
>>321697378
There are bench's that aren't FPS.
>>321697721
Nice gaming memeputer anon :^)
Bet you'll get a solid 45 fps on high settings with those epic memes of yours
>>321697486
GTA V
>>321697727
Maybe the >but shadows and reflections part?
>>321697845
Thanks mate
>>321682023
>AMD CPUs
Fuck no, you can argue about GPUs, but completely ignore their CPUs.
>all this shit posting about pc parts and shit
Thats why I bought Alienware. Professionals who made millions doing their craft. I trust them, not /v/'s autistic fanboyism.
>>321698072
>thisbestbebait
>>321697887
yah.. might need to get a better gpu so i can dissprove >>321695285 pic.
>>321698203
It's still a decent tell for future proofing. 4k would fair much better on an i5 than an fx.
>>321682023
>AMD Processors
>>321684586
I would recommend something like this.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/cTdqGX
Mainly because things like CG modelling and some parts of video editing can get really Vram intensive and trying to get by on a 960 for that won't quite cut it. Also everything here come in under 1200 Bongs and you could probably shave a few bucks off some things in there.
>>321697685
Ah alright. I was thinking of buying an i7-4790k, but I've been holding out on it for a good deal, but I'm unsure on if something new is coming out that will outperform the i7-4790k.
When I had AMD I couldn't emulate for shit.
When I switched to intel I could and I got to play the KH games, Xenoblade, and Metroid Prime series.
That's a fucking fact and nobody can argue it. Intel is the better product.
>have a shitty fx6300 or something
>turning around drops my fps to console levels
I will never fall for the amd meme ever again.
is the gtx 750 ti a good budget card? Its like $120.
>>321698563
>but I'm unsure on if something new is coming out that will outperform the i7-4790k.
It already came out and it's called a 6700K.
Also holding out for something new coming out is generally a bad idea.
>>321699213
Stop playing Crisis 3 on 4k with 100000000x AA and shit
>>321699213
Forgot the game, fallout 4
even my brain is being affected by amd
>>321687830
That doesn't make sense. i7s basically no improvement for gaming, and >>321691702 shows just how much.
It actually performs worse in some games.
>>321684586
>>321698557
>>321698563
Gross.
>>321699243
I just don't want to buy the 4790k and then a year later something outperforms it greatly. But yeah I heard about the 6700k, but was unsure if the price difference is worth it.
>>321694286
do it. that 750 ti/ pentium is a good combo for a starter build. will be plenty good for counterstrike and garrys mod that's for sure.
>>321699862
>I just don't want to buy the 4790k and then a year later something outperforms it greatly.
Then I suggest you go buy a PS4 because this is the reality of the PC world. Even then your fear is misplaced there are people still using 25/2700K's without issue because each year we're only getting a 5-10% increase in mainly CPU intensive tasks (I.e. Not gaming). If you've got a good deal on the 4790k, go for it but otherwise I'd recommend going for the 6700k because of all the added features that came with Z170.
>>321699814
>Gross.
Dude, what are you on about?
>>321700654
I could (possibly) pick up an i7-4790k for 249.99+tax which I think is pretty good. The 6700k is $130 more.
The AMD CPUs might be shit, but what about their GPUs?
>>321682023
From what I understand, AMD CPUs are only worth it for absolute poorfag builds, but anything around 200$ you're better off Intel.
>>321700967
Yeah I'd go with the the 4790K because that price gap only increases from there.
>>321701091
They have their place.
>>321700786
There's literally no reason to get a 960 instead of a 970 while simultaneously getting an i7 instead of an i5.
>>321682023
AMD makes excellent GPUs but there CPUs are currently outclassed. Get a i5.
>>321702032
Except there is. For the record I am >>321698557
>>321702291
>>There's literally no reason to get a 960..
>>>321698557
>a 960 won't cut it
OK.
>>321702517
Which is why I'm confused. the list I gave never traded a 970 for an i7, I never even mentioned a 970.
I have an i3 right now. If I were to get an i5, how likely is it I would have to upgrade my motherboard?
>>321703197
That depends, what i3 do you have and what i5 do you want and what mobo do you have?
>>321703535
Can't remember any of it, and I'm not on my home computer. Is there any specific thing I can check when I get home so I can figure it out myself?
>>321703732
Yeah, download piriform speccy. that will tell you what CPU, MOBO and socket type you have. you can then compare the socket type to that of the i5 you want, if the sockets mismatch you need a new mobo, if they're the same socket but intra-generation you may need a soft/firmware update.
Also the chipset maybe a factor, it would be no use to you getting a i5-X5YYk if you're using a non-k i3 on a non OCing mobo.
get an i3 skylake and oc that whore
>>321700967
go to microcenter and get that i7 bruv. best deal there is
>>321702842
Maybe refer back to >>321702291
"There is" a reason to get a 960 instead of a 970 would contradict your other post.
For clarity, an i5 setup and a 970 is $680ish (per >>321695837) vs. £1200 ($1790). There's probably room for reducing the latter, and the 970 is only $100 more.
>>321704651
Great. I'll check it out when I get back. Thanks!
>>321684586
never future proof
>>321705946
I would but the store is sold out. I think too many got in on that deal and they haven't been stocked up for a few weeks now.
I'm a bit confused on how power supplies work. Will my old 520w PSU be able to handle the r9 380x's 500w minimum requirement and still be able to handle other stuff simultaneously, or would I need a better PSU? Also, would being 130 watts under the 650w recommendation for the 49 380x screw me over?
>>321705951
I think we're getting there. I wasn't really paying attention to the 960 vs 970 part of >>321702032
and focused more on 'There's literally no reason to get... an i7 instead of an i5.' because of how gaming focused /v/ gets (which I hope they would) they tend to forget there are uses for a pc besides vidya and shitposting that require more than i5.
>There's probably room for reducing the latter
There is, I definitely spent more on the PSU and case then I could've.
Name a game that uses more than 4 threads
>>321706062
You're welcome.
>>321707585
I've heard that one of the Flight Sims can.
