>calling hack and slash this piece of shit
what the fuck
hack and slash are games like dmc, mgs:r, etc not this shitty wannabe diablo
>>321634297
Hack and slash literally means a diablo clone.
>>321634297
Those are usually just called cuh-razy. Some people try to call them character action or 3D beat em ups but fuck those people.
>>321634736
Meh, I wouldn't call them that. I usually just say action RPG, or isometric action RPG (even though many are orthogonal), or diablo-like
"hack n slash" is a more broad term to describe a method of gameplay that is really basic but satisfying.
shit, Shadows of Mordor is a hack n slash, same with AssCreed, imo.
I always heard shit like Gauntlet called hack & slash growing up.
Calling DMC-style games hack & slash feels dumb to me because the logic behind it is basically "well you mostly use swords." Which is a really arbitrary way to distinguish a genre, especially given that there are non-slashing weapons in all of them and some don't focus on swordplay at all.
>>321634736
how so
there are plenty vidya called hack and slash and arent like diablo
>>321635149
hack and slash doesn't literally mean that you will slash enemies with a sword, the genre is about fighting tons of enemies regardless of the weapon that you use
>>321634297
>hack and slash are games like dmc, mgs:r
No, they are beat 'em ups
>>321636798
no actually they're character action games or stylish action games
beat em up are games like streets of rage or fighting force
>>321635149
So any EA, Activision and Ubisoft game is a hack & slash game?
BecauseCut content
>>321636919
And they are just 3D streets of rage.
Action is a broad genre that encompasses beat em up.
>>321637280
action is too broad
we need sub genres
deal with it gramps
>>321634297
Hack and slash doesn't cease to continue being hack and slack just because of a change in viewing angle.
>>321637367
Exactly and beat em up is an action subgenre. Stuff like DMC are just 3D beat em ups.
>>321634297
>games like dmc, mgs:r, etc
Those are spectacle fighters, or character action games if you're a pleb.
>>321638892
Because they wear spectacles?
>>321634736
This guy isn't 12 and knows what's up.
>>321639909
Maybe.
>>321638892
Button mashers.
everybody knows diablo clones are actually called clickysmacky-loot-em-up
I made an arcanist, what other class should I put with it? I can't decide.
slightly-angled-view-click-mickery-hola-goop
>>321636798
this
hack & slash originated in tabletop RPGs
figure out the rest
>>321635150
Idiots use it wrong for stuff like dynasty warriors
The term still means isometric loot based rpg
>>321634297
Hack and Slash is a board game/tabletop name for an rpg campaign that's almost all combat
That's what differentiates something like Grim Dawn from something like Wasteland 2
What's end game like in Grim Dawn?