Thousands of people are getting ready to file lawsuits against Valve first thing Monday
Valve broke washington state law when they failed to properly notify their customers of a privacy and security breach.
Even outside washington, swathes of people are gathering together for their own class action lawsuits for revealing their phone number, address, and even credit card details to other people.
All of this is set to take place Monday.
The end of Valve is here.
Are you Pro-Valve or Against Valve?
Consumers vs Valve is about to begin
Time to get comfy, /v/
POLL
>http://strawpoll.me/6366455
http://strawpoll.me/6366455
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Source on this?
>>321520393
Yeaha gonna need some sauce
>>321520393
hopefully based valve btfo these entitled gamers
>>321520393
Fuck off retard. There are absolutely no good alternative to Valve. If they disappear PC gaming is dead. Gaming is DEAD.
>>321520393
Lies
read EULA first.
Also nobody was fucking harmed.
>>321520617
>>321520657
>i-it's okay when v-valve does it!
Just send valve customer service a quick e-mail theatening lawsuits / action and ask for £50 to be added to your wallet and you wont take action.
Easy money
>>321520617
Get the fuck out of here with that shit
It's not entitlement to trust your credit card number to be SAFE when the company insists on saving it to your account to be displayed for all to see when they fuck up
You get what you pay for.
Stop renting games through a rental service and try BUYING/physically owning them instead.
>b-but muh eula, t-they will literally come to your house and stop you
LOL
>>321520657
Good goyim
>>321520393
I've been ignoring Steam all my life. Because I don't like drm and digital only games. I buy all my games physical and then play the pirated versions while keeping the games in their plastic wrapping.
PC gaming has been getting worse ever since Steam rose to prominence. Developers and the industry have been treating users like second hand customers. Whole genres have died or become mass marked casual shit fests. I miss the late nineties, early 00s when PC was top.
>>321520746
>Also nobody was fucking harmed.
>"Hi Paypal, i forgot my password, but i have my e-mail, address, and phone number. could i get it reset?"
People are getting harmed over the privacy breach right now. You just aren't hearing about it. And those guys are the ones filing lawsuits.
>>321520838
Not saying it was OK for Valve to fuck up by accidentally releasing all that personal information but
> start in offline mode
Didn't they all sign those anti-class action deals after the PSN hack anyway to continue to use steam?
>post yfw steam is kill
>>321520393
If this is really real then the justice system is stupid.
Valve did not really TRY to reveal your information, it was a bug, a mistake, they didn't see it coming. Just because of that tiny thing that got no one hurt people will end them? What the fuck?
>>321520838
I don't want disks though, I don't like the clutter and I have a small house. How about being able to resell Steam games as a compromise? Europe will force Valve's hand on this matter sooner or later.
>>321520746
This. Underage morons think they can get a free payday, but considering the bullshit Sony went through when they were legit fucked up, Valve got their ass covered that next Tuesday to the end of time.
>>321520393
>falseflagging this hard
come on now
>>321520907
>I buy all my games physical and then play the pirated versions while keeping the games in their plastic wrapping.
simply amazing. Grade A autism right there
>>321521002
that ain't worth shit son
>all these replies to a post with no source
god damn /v/ is truly a shithole
The problem is, even if this is real, I'm sure somewhere in that huge user agreement no one read, there is a line protecting them from this type of lawsuit.
>>321521016
It's a fuckup, but it's probably one the worst, most infortunate fuckups they could have gotten
>>321520393
>Thousands of people
Everyone is seriously misinformed about the nature of this 'breach', along with these non-existent suits.
The caching system fucked up, people saw pages that they were not meant to see.
No one was ever 'logged' into another persons account because of this, they just thought they were.
MAYBE with some of the information randomly gathered someone got their account actually breached. I don't know how, but maybe. You'd need either a really shitty password or disabled the email/phone double check for that to happen though.
>>321521075
>claims others are underage while thinking an eula will hold up in court
The ironing is delicious. Now, I'm not claiming they should be sued, but I felt the need to point out how underageb& you are.
>>321521069
Its almost as if you could spend, like, $100 for a 2tb HD and keep ISOs and installers on it! Woah man!
>>321520393
literally NOTHING happened you fucking retard
>>321521096
Who else? Origin?
You would literally want to support the satan?
>>321520393
>braindead morons file a class-action lawsuit
>lawyers settle with valve for millions of dollarydoos
>consumers each get $2.50 for their trouble
>valve and the lawyers laugh at dumb consumer kiddies
>>321520617
Nah man, come on. I often disagree with this bullshit, but they are right that the least Valve should have done is to inform their customers that they had a security breach. They cannot just go on and pretend that it never happened.
>be an Ameriturd
>sue everybody because my job is being taken by a Mexican
>>321520828
>get access to tons of fantastic games
>v-valve stop using my credit card
fucking children
>>321520929
Giving steam your phone number and adress is the point where you yourself fucked up already.
>>321520393
Valve has already jewed up billons of dollars that they're never going to use
>>321520929
This is not how you reset a fucking paypal password you mongrel. This isn't some kind of MMO or anything, if you want a new password they send a code to your Bank and you have to check it on your statement.
>>321521171
>user agreement
>relevant in court
Kek
>>321520838
DRM isn't really all that much of an issue when you can pirate any game any time. The problem is that there is no real physical support anymore. Games no longer fit on discs and they just put half the game or just steam installer even if you buy physical
Buying modern physical games in some cases just means getting some plastic box. You still have to use steam to download the rest or pirate. No other options.
What we need is a strong competitor so that it's not a shitty monopoly.
>>321521328
Why would they laugh? Thats like 20 mil straight down the shitter.
>>321520929
nice FUD you have there, fegit
>>321520393
Fucking burgers
If you're on People's side trying to file a lawsuit against Valve, you're fucking cancer
All you had to do was use Mobile Authentication, even Valve promoted it with a 30% sale off market items.
It's the consumer's fault for not using safeguards
Like a bank giving you a bank pin but then you go saying "no thanks, I don't need to safe guard my account"
it's your fault for being stupid and lazy
>hurr I don't own a smart phone
>m-my phone doesn't support steam mobile
>tinfoil botnet
fucking americans go die
valve 1 burger pigs 0
>>321521397
>PayPal
They just send it to your email. I don't know what the fuck you two are going on about.
>>321520393
>Shit goes tits up
>Vultures immediately descend
Americans are such scavengers holy shit.
>>321521397
What now?
When I reset my paypal password I usually just need to enter in a code they text or call me with.
>>321521362
>Giving steam your phone number and adress is the point where you yourself fucked up already.
Your argument means jack shit
When Steam reveals your home FUCKING address to random people, ALONGSIDE Your email and phone number, making your account VULNERABLE To fraud, Valve has a LEGAL OBLIGATION to offer protection service against this sort of thing, credit monitoring and the whole mile
have they done so? Nope.
guess whose getting sued by the people being affected by this? Valve
guess whose gonna win the lawsuit? Not Valve
>>321520657
Valve and Steam killed PC gaming.
Now all PC gaming have are dumbed down console ports and indie shitty games thanks to steam.
I for one would enjoy to see Valve dying.
I'm on the "Don't give a shit about all of it and hope that I get free shit at the end of it"
Inb4 valve takes the ball and goes home by shutting steam down permanently
>>321521559
I think Valve will win because nothing good happens in the world. :(
>>321520838
>S-stop renting games!
>I don't understand how software ownership and licencing works, so I use retarded metaphors
Why the fuck are you talking about things you don't know shit about anon?
>>321520393
I always will be opposed to drm even steam.
Who cares? I've been playing games just fine which is all that matters to me.
Then again I've got a debit card linked to my steam account which I transfer money over to when it's needed, not my credit card like some naive retard who can't comprehend something like this happening.
While I don't think it deserves a lawsuit, they need to get shit together when it comes to communication with people. They're probably the safest place for info and didn't want to cause alarm, but them being silent during the whole thing is terrible.
>>321521647
So basically a Bernie Sanders supporter?
>>321520393
>security breach.
It wasn't a security breach it was a cache overflow.
>>321521309
>Valve
>not being the ancient evil
I'm going to sue because I couldn't ignore my family with video games on the one day a year I should actually look them in the eyes!
Typical MustardRace
Post yfw console master race.
>still no source
This is why /v/ is a laughing stock, even fucking /pol/ can get sources, biased, completely bullshit sources, but sources nonetheless.
>>321520657
GOOD Fuck gaming, let it burn to the ground so we can start over and have it be "nerdy" again. Start getting some good shit instead of the same rehashed trash year after year.
On the other hand it was a fuck-up from Valve´s side that they might´ve predicted and fixed beforehand but on the other hand it´s still personal information that is for your eyes only unless you want to make it public for some reason.
>>321520907
I´d buy physical copies of games, thing is that´s for AAA games mostly and those are mainly trash. Most indie and smaller companies can´t make their games physical due to amount of money they´d have to use on printing the discs, trasporting, retails takes part of the money etc. and without some big well known publisher/store it´s tough to sell it and actually make profit.
>inb4 all indies suck and are shovelware
That´s just problem from Valve´s side which game they do decide to publish.
>>321520823
Proof that this works?
>>321521706
Yea because the people who are in any position to give a public message about this kind of shit are just sitting at the office on Christmas day aren't they?
What the fuck are you on about man? Shit happened, they're probably working out exactly what the fuck went down before they come out with announcements that might not even be accurate, do you seriously believe this shit doesn't take time to sort out? How fucking dense are you?
>>321521003
>>321520907
>I buy all my games physical and then play the pirated versions while keeping the games in their plastic wrapping.
pretty smart.
Valve will pay everyone off with the lowly sum of 1000 (steam bux only). People will take it and it'll blow off.
>>321521893
It doesn't, he just wishes it does.
>no address on my account
>no phone # on my account
>no credit card on my account
>just a PayPal address & email
>wasn't even on Steam yesterday
I'm fine right?
>>321521309
>EA strawman
Mojang
Squad
Taleworlds
Humble Bundle
Eagle Dynamics
777 Studios
Gaijin Entertainment
Aerosoft
Cloud Imperium games
Kalypso Media
Blizzard
Ubisoft
Rockstar
CD Project
All these companies run their own stores and let you download their games without Steam.
This industry doesn't need Steam.
>>321521827
But the Microsoft and Sony have had leaks before. Worse ones.
>>321521706
>While I don't think it deserves a lawsuit
ARE YOU
F U C K I N G
U
C
K
I
N
G
KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW BRO?
STEAM REVEALED HOME ADDRESSES, PHONE NUMBERS, EMAILS, FULL NAMES, DIGITS FROM YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER, FAMILY MEMBERS (IF YOU HAD FAMILY SHARING ON YOUR ACCOUNT YOU ARE FUCKED)
THIS IS A PARADISE FOR FRAUD, AND VALVE HASN'T OFFERED -ANY- FRAUD PROTECTION OR CREDIT MONITORING FOR THIS FUCK UP. NONE. (EVERY OTHER COMPANY THAT ISN'T VALVE HAS DONE THIS WHEN THERE HAS BEEN A BREACH BTW)
AND YOU -DONT- THINK THATS SUEABLE?
Valve is fucking finished. They're just lucky the courts aren't open until Monday.
>>321521950
Only for collectors editions. I do it for all of them though because like >>321521098 said. I'm autistic. I play only singleplayer games so I'm not missing out on anything and there are ways to play multiplayer on pirated games anyway.
>>321521990
What happened is people saw your info, they weren't actually logged onto your account and couldn't and can't take any action with it, and your paypal address and email won't allow them to abuse it even if they did see it.
Not to mention most of this info was in the hands of other random shites who wouldn't know what the fuck to do with it anyway.
>>321522061
Fuck off, retard.
Haha, time for lawsuits!
>>321521827
mustard rice BTFO
>>321520393
>All of this is set to take place Monday
There are 1000s of people wanting to sue Valve, but their gonna wait till Monday.
What kind of stupid made-up post is this?
>>321522061
>being this much of an entitled spoilt brat
god, gamers these days are the worst
neo-/v/ please go
>>321522061
I don't know what fucking response you were hoping to get but I hope you die knowing your time on this earth was wasted
>>321521502
its not the burgers faults that valve released a bunch of info for free.
they weren't even hacked, they just fucked up on their end so badly, and took a long time to sort it out or even tell anyone.
>>321521897
They had them there to fix it, nerd. If it really was a cache issue they could have just said it was an error on their end, working on it, and should be good now. You don't need a fucking press release for it. Even a retard like you can type something out like that, better than leaving everyone in the dark to speculations. Even now all we have to go off of is like two posts on the steam forums from Moderators and a bunch of rumors, Valve hasn't said shit.
>>321522225
You honestly can't be this retarded
>>321521827
Sony and Microsoft got hacked before, fucko.
I'm not siding with anyone, but right now there's no "master race" when it comes to privacy.
Valve fucked up bigtime by leaking personal information and not notifying their customers. They are legally obligated to do this, so you have every right to sue them.
Realistically though, nothing will happen because most gamers just like to whine, but not actually go out and DO shit.
>>321522061
He's got to be an underage little shit or too busy deepthroating gabes cock to care.
I hope Valve wins, shitty lawsuits like this just wastes everyone's time with people trying to demand things they're just not entitled to.
Valve already apologized, what more could you want? It's entirely the people's fault if they face any problems and it's not Valve's fault that this happened in the first place.
>>321522025
who the fuck would want all your games spread over all those fucking services.
>>321522307
>lawyers are people too
>>321522025
shut the fuck up faggot
can they run stuff like Market?
Selling virtual items ranging from $1 to $1000
No, the only thing they can distribute are video games, fucking useless, no variety.
go eat shit
>>321522061
>Hurrr durr I don't know shit about shit but feel entitled to outrage wurrrr!
>>321522025
>all these
Different anon here. Your argument falls apart the moment you realize there's a max of 40 titles spread across this list, versus the hundreds of thousands on steam. Save for cdproject and gog who are an actual competitor to steam.
Valve you dun goofed. Where's my free copy of Portal/L4D? (oh wait I already have those)
They are not required to notify immediately. Most likely still gathering evidence to share with users
>>321521827
Your just enjoying the chaos huh.
>>321522025
>Blizzard
>Ubisoft
Fuck off.
>>321522025
The only reason origin didn't dominate the digital distribution market today is because steam came first.
Ea would certainly grab this opportunity and start a hufe campaign advertising origin and if there is one thing ea does well it's tricking the consumer into thinking their products are good.
If valve go out of business gaming or rather quality of games which already is decreasing will fall significantly.
>>321522293
They still don't know how it happened, who was affected, what it specifically effected and more before they can give an official statement.
Again, this is not the kind of message you want to half-ass, and customers being too impatient to be reasonable is absurd.
>>321522025
Except Valve and Steam is the reason why PC gaming exists in the first place.
Without Valve, PC gaming wouldn't have ever taken off without Valve doing everything it can into making the PC gaming market as huge as it is today.
>>321522481
wat
>>321522443
Yes, they are. At least according to yuropoor law, they have to notify customers as soon as possible after confirming something's up.
>>321521870
You'll be surprised what games actually get physical releases. Huniepop for instance has a physical version and that's a $5 kickstarter game. On the other side though, a good big budget game like Metal Gear Rising didn't get physical on PC which sucks because I couldn't buy it even though I enjoyed it. I can give digital a pass for hard to get niche Japanese games.
Like I said many small good quality games get physical but many don't.
And then there's stuff like this...
>>321522351
*psychopaths
>>321522582
Is a valve a European company?
>>321522481
>>Nobody actually lost anything
On the contrary, every person involved has lost their identity.
This is literally identity theft of the highest order.
>>321522530
>ea launch a huge campaign advertising their own games
What's the point
>>321522110
>>321522237
>>321522243
>>321522361
And no one can only actually counter his argument making him right and you guys fags. LEL
>>321520657
This NEEDS to happen.
Companies aill realize drm based shit must go in order to protect the sales now.
This means vidya will be drm free after these cucks get btfo.
i don't care either way but
>The end of Valve is here.
no it isn't you fucking stupid child
>>321522339
>What is DRM free
>What is giving your money to the actual dev instead of Steam
>>321522395
If a married couple in turkey can run their own digital distribution service for 10 years, then nobody needs Steam.
It's ok when Valve does it.
>>321522629
Do they operate in European regions?
>>321520393
but wasn't it not a security breach? They said it was an error from a caching server or something.
>>321522540
>This is what Valvedrones actually believe
>>321522661
Except he has no valid argument and he is only whining like a spoiled retard.
>>321522629
That is irrelevant. They offer services in other countries so they have to abide by their laws.
Something something steam refunds.
>>321522694
>married couple in turkey
If it's so successful, why am I not using it now? Anon, you realize steam has more than just one or two games, yes?
>>321522737
That's not how it works, an American company set in the US is bound to US laws, unless they have an office in Europe. Do they, actually? I don't even know.
>>321522536
It feels like something big has been breached. We may see other breaches/hacks down the line. Dunno, it's some unsettling feeling. Must be the way they have handled this.
>>321520393
>Thousands of people are getting ready to file lawsuits against Valve first thing Monday
Disgusting American suing culture.
They just had a little fuck up and they did put a notice about it on their forum.
Why don't you burgerfags fight for customer rights instead of acting like a jew?
>>321522629
Registered in Luxembourg so they can doge taxes.
>>321522629
No. Valve fucking hate Europe and still refuse to abide by their laws.
>>321522741
It is a security breach. The executor of the security breach was Valve.
The courts will see it this way. This is going to be a huge development over the next few months.
>>321522395
This so hard but gog has a looong way to go to catch up to steam.
>>321522837
Apparently it does work because Steam refunds came because European laws demanded it.
>>321522352
money launderer-kun pls go
>>321522868
>. Valve fucking hate Europe and still refuse to abide by their laws.
Yeah of course, it's not like they put a refund service because of european laws.
>>321522540
I wish i could kill people over the internet at this moment.
God i hate valvedrones
>>321522814
Because you are an idiot and probably don't even realize the game they are selling is cheaper on their own store than on Steam.
>>321520393
Pro-Valve
Can't get vidya cheaper elsewhere.
>>321522837
Luxembourg
>>321522852
Again, what the fuck are you on about? It hasn't been 24 hours since this has happened, and this went down on Christmas day when the majority of the staff isn't at work, they're probably scrambling to get their shit together and give an informed statement of what exactly went down, you can speculate or panic all you want but that's little but your own folly.
First rule of the internet: Don't put fucking personal information anywhere if you don't want it to be public knowledge, because chances are it will be.
>>321522987
>Can't get vidya cheaper elsewhere
Then you clearly don't know where to look.
>>321522912
This is a myth. Refund law does not apply to digital distribution.
Valve got pressured into offering refunds because customers were fed up with Steam's bad quality control
>>321522987
>Can't get vidya cheaper elsewhere.
last i checked, the vidya on uTorrent is cheaper than Steam
>remember the steam forum/info breach when people got access to old forum accounts and old CC data that would take thousands of years to decrypt and didnt really harm anyone
>every user got a message when they logged in to steam where Gaben was apologizing about their fuck up
>this time around when people actually got access to important shit
>they didnt even bother to mention it until hours later on a 3rd party site
how the mighty have fallen
>
>>321523021
Ah, well then yeah, they do need to inform their customers.
>>321522965
>single game
You're fucking retarded. Fuck you.
>>321522909
I know. They're the only actual competitor though. Every other one on that list just sells their own games.
While I don't really give a shit about this thing I do want valve to take responsibility for this
You wouldn't get away with this in any industry except videogame industry
And they will. Believe it they will get away with it
ITT different leveled Valve drones attack each other over being Valve drones. Fact is if you have Steam or any Valve games, you are the cancer killing gaming.
>>321523071
Yea the fact that they lost several suits in Europe regarding the issue certainly meant it was entirely unrelated huh anon?
>>321522987
devsownwebsite.com
isthereanydeal.com
>>321521237
>Everyone is seriously misinformed about the nature of this 'breach', along with these non-existent suits.
BECAUSE VALVE WONT MAKE A FUCKING STATEMENT ABOUT IT. THE ONLY NEWS WE HAVE IS FROM FAN RUN TWITTER ACCOUNTS
>>321523042
Tell me where to find cheaper vidya that doesn't involve pirating.
>>321523119
>You wouldn't get away with this in any industry except videogame industry
Nice one.
>>321520393
It's ridiculous that I had to find out about the security breach from /v/ and twitter, did valve even release a formal statement on the issue?
>>321522540
You say that as if any of that is a good thing.
>>321523149
Stealing
>>321523149
thrift stores
ebay
>It's happening!
>the end of Valve is here!
>>321522481
Some guy had someone buy 80 copies of bad rats with his card.
>>321521397
Who the fuck would even use their service if it was that inconvenient to reset? I've never even looked at a bank statement and I made six figures two years in a row. I can't imagine college kids are checking their fucking bank statements.
>>321522927
Yeah because they were sued to hell and back.
It was either giving up on europe, which is a bigger pc gaming market than the us and pay fines, or doing something that somewhat resembles refunds.
>>321523148
Why do you think valve won't make a statement about it you absolute mongoloid, do you honestly think something this scale can be figured out and compressed into an official statement in less than 24 hours on fucking Christmas?
What the fuck do you expect you unreasonable imbecile?
>>321523149
>go to g2a
>get cheaper Steam codes than on Steam
Wow, that was so hard. There are also others, but this is enough spoonfeeding for now.
>>321523145
They didn't, kiddo. Neither Origin nor Steam nor GoG give the full, unconditional 14 day refund the EU law says you should get for online purchases.
Why? Because the law does not apply to digitally distributed software.
>>321520393
Dear fucking lord. Are people really this stupid?
>>321523119
Video game consumers are the most retarded consumers in existence. At least film goers know to avoid bad movies. Gamers will buy shitty games and then tell you how good they are. Are you surprised that any company can get away with anything?
>>321523269
I wish this was true.
>>321523307
Every other website on earth makes a warning IMMEDIATELY when things start happening, and updates as it progresses.
Valve has said nothing, and there has been no updates. You enormous, shit eating hooknosed asslicker.
>>321521559
you do know all those 3 are public information, right?
>>321523325
>They didn't kiddo
>I don't understand the specifics of the cases they lost so they didn't happen and didn't affect anything!
Stop being a moron, anon.
>>321520828
Credit card numbers didnt leak, retard
What information was even leaked, the last four digits of your credit card number if you had it saved in the first place? Oooh, I'm quaking in my boots.
>>321520929
You know what happens after you provide an email address to reset a password? They send an email to the email address which you still don't have access to you fucking buffoon.
>>321523307
like every other site ive used that has a breach or issue of any kind makes a newspost and updates as it goes on. there's no excuse
>>321523071
>Refund law does not apply to digital distribution.
It especially does apply to digital distribution since european refund law only works for goods bought on the internet since you cant look at or try the things you buy online.
>>321523412
>Every other website on earth makes a warning immediately when things start happening
Anon? What the flying fuck have you been drinking? This is an issue that was there for literally an hour or so before being fixed, all that remains is figuring out the details of what exactly happened, who was affected and what needs to be done next, there is no current risk or issue to report on as it has already passed.
Seriously, get your head out of your fucking anus you moronically entitled shithead.
>>321522481
I expected no less of americans
>Fucking yuropeens bitching about steam policies and wanting more rights, they'll kill the industry
>Fuck up happen
>OY VEY MUH ACCOUNT MUH RIGHTS, GUNNA SUE U FOR DEM CHIRSTMASBURGERS
>>321523436
I know emails were leaked.we were nice and emailed a few people whose accounts we had telling them of the leaks
>>321523390
>At least film goers know to avoid bad movies.
Are you fucking stupid? Is that why everybody complains about the movies of Michael Bay and it still generates billions? You're a fucking retard.
Even the shittiest movies from Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer managed to make a profit.
>>321523436
Hey man, that means they just have to guess the first 12 numbers and the security key now.
>>321520393
I thought this was about the class action lawsuit in france.
>>321521564
man, you still got a ps2 or what?
dumbest opinion i've ever read on this board
Do you want them to delay Half life 3?
>>321523476
>Every other site
>Steam is comparable to a website
>Websites react and report immediately
You're full of shit, who the fuck are you kidding here anon?
>>321522061
>AND YOU -DONT- THINK THATS SUEABLE?
you are not getting free games, no matter how hard you wank that word.
All these kids are getting pissy cause they're worried their parents will find out they've been using their credit cards to by video games.
>>321523412
>Valve has said nothing
There was a notice on their forums.
>>321523476
Maybe it's fucking Christmas and they were concerned with fixing the problem and getting the fuck out of there. Maybe they don't have a clear answer to give yet. Maybe they are investigating the problem and don't want to spread incomplete information.
Christ almighty you people are a bunch of psychopaths with the complete inability to relate to any other human on Earth.
>>321523521
>>321523601
>there was a cache overflow and millions of people saw information from other accounts
>no need to tell anyone, despite 7 million people being logged in at any given time, it only lasted an hour or two!
>>321523589
How can you delay something that will never exist?
>>321520393
>Telling the world there's a security breach when millions of e-dollars are at stake
Genius. Are you actually trying to sue over this? They were protecting their customers. Details would've just made everything worse. Think for a second.
Also, anons and Steam users will never be able to out-lawyer Valve. Their team is too strong.
KILL GABE
i was hopeful we would get one free game out of this but valve didn't even adress this until much later, much less give me anything
>>321523436
Real names attached to email addresses, phone numbers and billing addresses. It's not about "oh no they're gonna buy everyone bad rats with my money", it's about leaving your account vulnerable to social engineering fraud.
Funny how /v/ is the only place on the internet overreatcing over this, I wonder why.
They didn't even apologize, just acted like it never happened.
>>321523419
Then why are they still breaking the law you think applies to them?
Pro tip: because it doesn't
>>321523518
read the law, dipshit. It only applies to physical goods bought on the internet.
Digital software, video and audio is excluded, if seller informs the customer about it. Pic very related.
>>321523521
>Entitled
Theres that word again
but there was no security breach
>server has a hickup in the middle of Christmas
>whoever was on site caught the error within an hour or two and fixed the server giving people wrong caches
>server probably has a log of the caches it sent out
When Valve confidently says that no private info beyond what you've posted yourself got sent to the wrong people, it's probably because they actually know it didn't.
>>321523307
How fucking retarded are you? They knew full well something fishy was going on because they took down their fucking servers.
Get that Gaben dick out of your throat for a second and think.
>>321523608
from a fan, not from them.
>>321523619
takes maybe five minutes to right up a quick report on a server issue
>they were too busy!
>>321523650
>social engineering fraud
>>321523607
Holy fuck that'd be gold if they got a notice from their bank. I mean, it's not happening since credit card informations weren't touched, but it'd be fan-fuckin-tastic.
>>321523371
It is the current year after all.
>>321523570
Security key is not needed in most places though, Amazon for example don't ask for the security key.
LET'S DO IT /v/ LET'S KILL VIDEOGAMES
>>321523636
Again? Seriously we've been over this you complete imbecile, WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY COULD POSSIBLY TELL YOU WITHIN 24 HOURS OF IT HAPPENING, WHEN THE PROBLEM HAS ALREADY BEEN FIXED AND ONLY FIGURING OUT THE SPECIFICS IS CURRENTLY A FACTOR.
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE ENTITLED YOU HERE YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER DEMENTED RETARD
>>321522481
>once
>>321520657
Fuck off, go suck gaben dick
>>321523619
>Christ almighty you people are a bunch of psychopaths with the complete inability to relate to any other human on Earth.
You are literally defending the company who let their users information accessible and didn't do anything about it because they were still after christmas sales of which they still are 100% focused about instead of rectifying the damage caused. Who are the real psychopaths?
>didn't snatch any of this delicious info
Bet those damn chinks are laughing at me now. 100% certain they had a field day with this.
>>321523690
>takes maybe five minutes to right up a quick report on a server issue
No, it fucking doesn't. You have obviously never worked on a team responsible for a live service. You're a fucking ignorant retard, no better than a SJW complaining about something they know nothing about.
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Oh god /v/ is overreating again.
>Thousands of people are getting ready to file lawsuits against Valve first thing Monday
Where's your proof that this is actually happening?
>>321523714
I'm pretty sure it does, the 1st time you buy something there. But yeah, if you register your credit card, you just have to select it and you're good.
>>321523619
Christmas is just a day were you spend time with family. Risking financial information could potentially ruin someone's life.
>>321523669
>Hurrrr durrrr law is black and white, losing a lawsuit means they must fully comply to something I actually don't understand that doesn't even fully apply!
Protip: Shit like this is NEVER black and white, that does not chance that these lawsuits were the primary instigator in the refund policy we see today. But keep talking like you know your shit kid, someone might actually be impressed by it.
>>321523674
They didnt. A forum moderator, which doesnt work at valve said that. No Valve employees have said anything.
>>321523723
When the mod nexus had a SUSPECTED breach a few weeks ago they made a post about it. Even though it was nothing. Literally a few hours after they found out.
>>321523772
>You have obviously never worked on a team responsible for a live service.
neither have you valve shill
>>321522481
>GamerGate
I want SRS to fuck off back to their containment site.
>>321523756
You couldn't buy anything while it was happening you god damn fool.
Always on the side of the people
>>321523706
Yeah. But kids don't know how credit card theft works. So I imagine thats why they're freaking out so much.
>>321523791
The hint is that the first post response for proof, and nobody's responded to it.
>>321522114
underrated, here's a (You).
>>321523805
What are the people who got someone else's address going to do, send pizza to them? You're a moron.
>>321523569
Michael bays shit isn't inherently bad though. I'm talking about shit like Ted 2. Made almost nothing.
>>321523671
>Using words that trigger me is not allowed!
Fuck off faggot.
>>321523689
THEY TOOK THE FUCKING SERVERS DOWN TO FIX THE FUCKING PROBLEM YOU IMBECILE, NO SHIT THEY KNEW SOMETHING WENT DOWN BUT UNTIL THEY KNOW THE FUCKING SPECIFICS WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO TELL YOU?~!
ITT: /pol/ and /x/ needing to fuck off back to their containment boards.
>>321523903
/v/ too
>>321523825
>>321523818
>>321523805
>>321523793
>>321523772
>>321523723
>>321523690
>>321523674
>>321523689
>>321523661
>>321523608
>>321523601
>>321523521
>>321523476
In like 2 weeks there still won't be any notice from valve, and you people will still be defending it.
>Last night people were bashing the shit outta Valve
>All of a sudden tons of people are eating their dick
What happened?
>>321523825
>neither have you valve shill
Wrong, I'm an sdet for the web team of the company I work for. I've been working here for 2.5 years. I know exactly what goes on when shit hits the fan. It's never a black and white "just write up a report" kind of problem.
>>321523793
>I'm pretty sure it does, the 1st time you buy something there
Nope, it just asks for card number, name and expiration date, no security key is ever asked.
>>321523893
What if they're lactose intolerant, jackass?
>>321522061
>STEAM REVEALED HOME ADDRESSES, PHONE NUMBERS, EMAILS, FULL NAMES, DIGITS FROM YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER, FAMILY MEMBERS (IF YOU HAD FAMILY SHARING ON YOUR ACCOUNT YOU ARE FUCKED)
The fact that there are people that have home address, phone numbers, full names and credit card numbers on steam or anywhere else sickens me.Sharing an account with anyone give me diarrhea.
>THIS IS A PARADISE FOR FRAUD, AND VALVE HASN'T OFFERED -ANY- FRAUD PROTECTION OR CREDIT MONITORING FOR THIS FUCK UP. NONE. (EVERY OTHER COMPANY THAT ISN'T VALVE HAS DONE THIS WHEN THERE HAS BEEN A BREACH BTW)
Noone has your full credit card number fuckwit only last 4 digits which are worthless without the rest. Also this wasn't a hack but a server fuck-up there was no breach like with PSN or Live.
There are more people everyday that have their shit fished by fake link that there will be scams from this.
>>321523893
They're going to go to their house and call them a faggot in person for spending 400+ hours on VN
>>321520838
I've got 600+ vidya on steam, you dipshit. Where would I store 600 fucking dvds? Are you literally retarded?
>>321523902
>>321520393
Nothing happened to me, so I literally don't care what Valve does or did
>>321523974
they got the games they wanted on the sale
I can't believe people are actually defending valve over this. I'm not saying this shit is worth a lawsuit but the leaking of personal information and not notifying your customers is inexcusable.
Kill yourselves you piece of shit valvedrones.
>this fucking thread
>>321523970
It's not like I give a shit about what happened, I don't have any information saved on Steam. I just get the free games they put up sometimes, nothing more.
>mfw Im a lawer
>mfw Im ready to sue valve frist thing new year
>>321523940
>/vg/
FTFY mate
>>321523974
They discovered that nothing was stolen and now want to be on the side that was right.
>>321523791
Don't you understand this entire thread is all a fucking joke and full of ironic shitposting?
>>321523694
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(security)
>>321524048
>mfw you're full of shit
>>321520393
>Valve broke washington state law when they failed to properly notify their customers of a privacy and security breach.
There's generally a timeframe for such things and that window hasn't closed yet. If I remember correctly, Sony apologized a week after the initial breach of their network. Valve's legal team and Gabe are likely going to put out a statement later today or tomorrow.
Also, there wasn't a security breach. Valve flat out fucked up. In the grand scheme of things, it's worse.
>>321523818
If you actually tried to read the law you'd know it's not black and white.
Steam wasn't ever sued about refunds in the first place. They were sued about other shit like reselling games.
>>321524048
>lawer
Whatever that is.
>>321520393
>You have no payment method associated with this account
>>321524027
This.
The only ones that should expect any sort of reparation are those that lost information or money and even then it's fucking iffy.
>>321524000
You know cd wallets can hold hundreds at a time and take up little to no room.
>>321522653
I never said that, who are you quoting
>>321523825
I'm not talking about the community moderator that made the stupid as fuck Facebook remark or the post on the Steam forums, I'm talking about the statement Valve made later.http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/458604254431478327/
They made the statement to GameSpot, but it's pretty much everywhere now.
https://archive.is/Atj7n
>>321524123
It's a braindamaged lawyer.
>>321523073
>uTorrent
Enjoy being tracked
Sometimes I feel like I've seen the worst of /v/. The shitposting, the fanboys, the furries, whatever. But then I always stumble upon something new, some undiscovered level of stupidity that I had never yet experienced.
This fear-mongering display of autism is one such level. Congratulations, /v/, you are clearly the dumbest group of retards on the entire Internet.
>>321523897
Production Budget: $68 million
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $81,476,385 37.7%
+ Foreign: $134,387,221 62.3%
= Worldwide: $215,863,606
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=ted2.htm
It still generated a profit if you add marketing, retard.
>>321524069
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
I really doubt anything is going to come of this
