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I should go.
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>>321503939
me1
+kill kaiden
-mako

me2
+better characters
-n/a

me3
+ashley's botched face surgery
-story
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>>321503939
ME1
+new possibilites
ME2
+Mattock
+Phalanx with teh blue laser
+Charge power
ME3
+dude that shit on ME3 (still in plastic though)
-no krogan playable
-can't just bro it out with kaidan and eat a steak , ya gotta eat his tubesteak
-frecklebeast
-stanrey woo and the whole bioware board
-kai leng
-photo shop tali
-laziness
-mac the hac
-star child
-bioware canaduh
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>>321503939
>Mass Effect 1
+Story
+Gameplay
+Actual Rpg elements
+MOTHER FUCKING MAKO
-not enough shit to do in MOTHER FUCKING MAKO
>Mass Effect 2
+SFM porn
-Story is filler shit
-Gameplay severly dumbed down
-Literally no rpg elements
>Mass Effect 3
+Better story than 2
+Multiplayer
+MARAUDER SHIELDS
-MARAUDER SHIELDS
- That last fucking 30 minutes
- Gameplay still retarded simple
-None of your decisions actually fucking mattering
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>hey shepherd, we cured death
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>>321505153
mass effect two was the stupidest fucking shit. Why the fuck couldn't 3 be 2 and the real 3 be a whole new game, fucking bioshit
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>>321503939

>ME1
>Best use of the setting
>Stiff combat

>ME2
>Awesome combat
>Shitty story that forgets its own lore

>ME3
>Great Multiplayer
>The rest of the game was a trainwreck

Worst part of Mass Effect though, is that both the Developer and Journo's told their consumer base to fuck themselves, and that didn't automatically end their company.

Their is no justice
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1: great story, good rpg elements, nice exploration,fun puzzles
Terrible combat, clunky controls

2. Good character writing. Prettu good environmental design and levels. Everything else is meh

3. Improved combat, fewer bugs.
Everything else sucks
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>>321505301
>that pic

then they give you frecklebeast when they had a perfectly good fem default for the first 2 games.

Fucking bioware canada shits.
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>ME1
+great story
+great characters
+amazing universe one can become entranced with
+Vigil
+alright RPG
+exploration
-exploration can sometimes be copypasta
-inventory is clunky
-mako controls can be frustrating on occasion
-buggy as shit
>ME2
+new characters are great
+smoother controls
+cool new areas
+suicide mission is cool
-no exploration
-no RPG elements
-story is really weak
-retcons
-plays like a weak GoW clone
>ME3
+multiplayer is a good distraction from the shittiness of the main story
+Tuchanka is the single best part of the trilogy and the emotional climax of it
-literally everything else about the story
-worlds are dead
-no exploration
-no RPG elements
-writing is terrible
-ending is abysmal
-no good decision making outside Tuchanka
-characters butchered

ME1 has a lot of problems but its still the best of the three and one of my favorite games, fuck any haters. ME2 is alright, it's a big step down from the first in most aspects but ME3 is a real, legitimately bad game.
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>>321504679
> -mako

Literally shit taste
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ME1
>Humans aren't the center of the universe
>Likeable characters
>Actual roleplaying
-Mako
-Combat
-That one room with all the bugs that makes the framerate drop to 7fps
>ME2
+Powers feel much better this time around
+Great start up
+Suicide mission shit is rad as hell
-Dumbed down in every regard
>ME3
+Multiplayer
-Tali
-Cortana kid
-Ending
-Ending
-Ending
-Ending
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>>321505421

Why did they even do such a heavy redesign of Femshep anyway?
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>ME1
+Great soundtrack
+Great overall story
+Atmosphere of innocence
-Shit gameplay
-Shit side-missions

>ME2
+Great soundtrack
+Great side-missions
+Great gameplay
+Some great characters and good player/character interactions
+Galactic culture explored much more in-depth
+Some fantastic location designs
+Shadow Broker DLC
-Somewhat shit main story, although the actual missions are quite good
-Arrival

>ME3
+Some very good missions
+Soundtrack has its moments of brilliance
+Occasional sense of real dread comes through in the game
-Shit story
-Kai Leng
-Very disappointing and lacklustre ending
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>>321505508
probably bitching from bioware forums.

WHY DOESNT FEMSHEP GET A 3d MODELED FACE WAAAH

then they give the ham galaxies a half assed mutant.
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Soundtrack was amazing in the 1st and 2nd game.
Prove me wrong.
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>>321505651
credits song was best in me3 but was ruined by the ending that preceded it, prove me wrong.
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>>321505059
>-Literally no rpg elements

>upgrade main character
>upgrade weapons and armour
>collect resources to allow you to research new weaponry, upgrades, and abilities
>interact with other characters and develop relationships with them
>play as a developing character in a story-driven game
Stop being childish.
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I bought the trilogy because a bunch of my friends recommended it. I've tried several times to play through ME1 but I fucking hate it, it's boring as fuck.

Seriously what do I do? How do people find the first game so fun.
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>>321505779
>upgrade main character
>upgrade weapons and armour
except that mc upgrades are dumbed down to fucking preschool levels, armor is a fucking joke, and the weapons are almost as unoriginal as the first fucking game, actually i take that back, they were more unoriginal than the first game fuck off..
>collect resources to allow you to research new weaponry, upgrades, and abilities
aka the most borring shitty designed activitey ever
>interact with other characters and develop relationships with them
you do this shit in visual novels too, am i to be expected that fucking waifu simulation is what makes a game good now
>play as a developing character in a story-driven game
>Shepard
>developing
pick one
>m-muh waifu fucking filler content simulator was a real game i sware
undermeme was more of a fucking game than shit effect 2: waifus with no porn edition.
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>me1
Ambitious for its time, but overhyped as fuck. The only unforgivable thing imo are the copy/pasted maps for secondary missions. Seriously, it was offensive, three maps for the whole game, with the exact same enemy spawns.

>me2
Better combat, overall better side characters, although 90 per cent of the plot is doing their shit. My major complain is that instead of improving mechanics like mako amd the piss poor rpg equipment element, they completely cut them.

>me3
never played and don't plan to
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>>321503939
me1
+large customization in equipment and powers
+mako
+good bosses
+great atmosphere
-too much equipment to sort through
-copy paste "dungeons for side missions"

me2
+more characters
+I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS
+better gameplay
-rpg elements removed
-shit final boss
-no wrex
-shit replacement for mako

me3
+online multiplayer
-no wrex
-all the me2 characters dropped from the game
-shit ending
-stock photo tali
-kai leng sue
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>>321505494

Speaking of the mako, does anyone have that hilarious gif of somebody basically handling it like a total pro?
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me1

+ fun space opera with rpg stuff
+ bosses
- mako collectathons
- interface (inventory) is kinda clunky

me2
+ decent space opera
+ some neat new characters
+ shadow broker
- instead of fixing me1 interface and inventory they just shitcan it along with more rpg elements
- mining collectathons

me3
- ghost kid
- skittles ending with message telling you to buy more dlc
- kai leng
- nothing you decide matters
- sorry about the ending have some more dlc
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>>321506330
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>ME1
Pros: Best self-contained story, amazing world-building, RPG-like, quality writing, incredibly atmospheric, best soundtrack, mako is cool

Cons: dated combat, exploration can be lacking, crappy item UI, sort of slow at first

>ME2
Pros: Mordin is the best character in the series, genuinely awesome characters in general, illusive man is great when mysterious, improved combat, visually nice, Overlord/LotSB DLC = 10/10

Cons: literally no plot expansion regarding reapers in ME1, council is retarded, lame final boss, thermal clips, too much emphasis on being a friend simulator rather than the fucking awesome reapers

>ME3
Pros: Geth/Quarian + Krogan sections were alright

Cons: literally everything else


Mass Effect isn't worthy of being called a trilogy. The first game is an epic space adventure that sets up so much and never gets expanded on properly. The second game could literally ignore all the reaper shit in the first game and be its own game. The third game is a rushed, poorly executed, linear, michael bay turd with the most god awful conclusion.
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>>321506093
There is no argument here. ME2 is objectively an RPG. It is more action-based rather than autism-based than ME1, but it is still an RPG.
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>>321503939
>ME1
+incredible setting and world building
+incredible characters and voice work
+incredible soundtrack
+exploration
+epic space opera story
-combat is fun at times but not terribly refined
-mako exploration can be fun but very few truly interesting things to actually find

>ME2
+amazing companions and dialog
+combat is improved
+still sounds great
+companion quests are great
-main story is good but not great
-exploration is diminished and much less fun

>ME3
+amazing companions
+combat is refined even further
+still sounds amazing
+epic galaxy spanning story
+seashells
+some pretty interesting quests
-ending is the weakest part when it should have been the strongest
-exploration is largely missing

The series is incredible. Sadly, the ending is one of the low points of the story. I don't personally find it all that bad but it certainly isn't great.

'Pick a color' was a bad idea. As much as people would have complained, there should not have been an ULTIMATE CHOICE at the end. Perhaps a few choices leading up to the ending, but that's all. A well orchestrated "YOU SAVED THE GALAXY" with some personal companion choices leading up to that could have been executed much better.

Still, even if the ending was meh, getting there is well worth the time.
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>>321506919

Any ending that resulted in beating the cycle or reapers didn't make sense and was shoe-horned in.

The whole series was essentially Lovecraftian cannon meets the great filter.

Yeah the patch they threw it in but the entire last game was bass ackwards in pacing and plot. Only good thing about it was the side stories and quests.

The last game should have been essentially an "on the beach" goodbye to existence.
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>>321505851
Because you're playing it almost 9 years too late
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>>321505851
it hasn't aged well, and the intro of the game is really slow and offputting. it's pretty much my favorite game of all time but I've already hit the point where I can't really play it much anymore. Combination of playing it too much and it not feeling that great anymore.

I still believe that if you push through it enough and allow yourself to get locked in you'll come to love it. ME2 will feel amazing to you afterward, since that game is a bit more age-proof even though I still think ME1 is the better game due to its story.
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ME1:
>Mere mortals like you cannot even try to understand our goals!
ME2:
>We kill off all organics and just magically put their DNA into reaper machines in order to prevent synthetics to kill all organics! merelypretending.jpg
ME3:
>ohgodwtfareyoudoing.jpg
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>>321505851
ME1 is severely flawed when it comes to combat. I suggest play ME2 which fixes a lot of what was wrong in the first one. Don't get too invested on the story of ME1, just watch a gameplay. Trust me, ME2 is really fun.
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>>321507615
This better be bait
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>>321507615
>Don't get too invested on the story of ME1
>literally ignore the best part of the game

if you love the universe and the lore, ME1 is the best place to go for it. If you like third person shooters that feel good, look nice, and allow you to fuck everything in sight, play ME2
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>>321507689
>Companions literally stepping into your line of fire
>Dropping fps when it's too much shit on screen
>Weapons overheating all the time

Come at me bro.
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I really cant blame me3 for being shit, seeing as it was driven into a corner by 2. 2 was completely pointless, literally nothing meaningful happens. 3 had to end a trilogy with only one games worth of development
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>>321507436
They really should've kept the Reapers in the territory of Lovecraftian ambiguity.
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>>321508020
>he actually thinks thermal clips were good
>playing on a toaster
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>ME1
- Here's this cool sci-fi setup full of interesting details!
>ME2
- Here's a bunch of cool stuff thrown at you! What's that, the plot is retarded and it castrates your agency to keep everything from falling apart? Shut up and shoot at the thing!
>ME3
- Here's ME2, but even more egregious!
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>>321507146
Yeah I figured.

>>321507376
>>321507615
Friends told be the combat is a lot better in ME2+3. I really don't want to skip the first game though, I'll just have to endure through it at some point.
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>>321507738
You might be right anon, I actually wanted to see what would happen at the end, that's what made me play the whole thing through

And watch the Citadel get rekt.
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>>321508020
Never had the issue with companions stepping in my line of fire. As for the other two, try not having a toaster and regulate your fire. You don't even have to the latter really, the game throws heat sink mods at you within the first twenty minutes of the game, plus the Overkill power that comes with every class.
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>>321508240

Exploration in 1 is far more atmospheric. The galaxy feels like a place instead of a set of set pieces. 1 is absolutely worth it and the combat isn't horrible, just not the best. Best story by far.
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>>321508387
Second.
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>>321508267
I made the big mistake of making Sheperd hybrid (soldier/vanguard) which ruined the gameplay for me mostly. I played ME2 as a fucking soldier instead and had a blast.

Also Renegade the shit out of the story. Feelsgood.jpg
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This is the only right answer.
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>>321508563
holy moly crusher looks like a fox with that hair. Not that boring hair she got later.
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>>321508563
>Mass effect
>good
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>>321508563
The answer to the question "how can I be completely wrong?".
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>>321506472

Thanks, I don't know why I didn't save that shit when I saw it the first time.
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ME3 DLC was amazing

>mfw the Identity Theft mission with a party at the end
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>>321508563
Did you get 1 and 2 confused or something.?
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>>321506472
Loved the mako sections. Any games that are similar?
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>>321511307
moon patrol.
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How do people not adore the Mako?
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>>321503939
>ME1
+Everything
-Bit dated in graphics department
-Inventory management

>ME2
+Builds on ME1
+Better squad mates
-Simplified RPG elements lead to shallow combat
-Loading screens between all the combat zones killing tension/suspense
-Removed the Mako exploration missions in favor of orbit scanning killing world building/atmosphere

>ME3
+Better combat than 2
-Boring as fuck uninteresting writing
-Somehow made the scanning more simple/worse


Just off the top of my head.
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>>321508418
>tfw getting spooked by the Rachni song
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>mfw the skyboxes in ME1 were better than the entirety of ME2
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>>321507146
Plenty of games age well. Chaos Threory is 10 years old now and has aged magnificently.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRmR0258vQ0
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I tried playing Mass Effect 2 but got bored of the swallow chest high walls corridor shooting. And after hearing about the clusterfuck that was 3, I'm content enough pretending there's only one game in the series, at least for now.
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>>321516457
What the fuck I was on the moon but never heard that. Does this imply there are rachni on the moon we don't know about?
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>>321519492
maybe it's just edi trying to spook shep into leaving it alone
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At what point exactly was the dialogue in ME any good?
I played it recently and I can't remember anything worth noting from it. What I do remember, however, is multiple times when all the dialogue choices consist of shouting out text that looks like it was written like a ten-year-old kid, mostly when dealing with the council.
A good rpg should allow variety when responding to people.
The human ambassador is also a prime example of bad writing in the game; I'd think the whole of humanity would want a better representative than a man that just angrily growls and shouts his lungs out (to the council) without any sign of diplomatic competence.
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>>321520226
>rpg
You are assuming the role of Shepard who sometimes has nothing other than retarded thoughts. The dialog is clunky in all RPGs except tabletop.

Also, what do you know of space politics? Do you believe you could be a better ambassador than Udina? You don't know shit about space politics.
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>>321520534
>who sometimes has nothing other than retarded thoughts.
Yeah, I guess you can/have to think it like that as the dialogue is what it is. I would prefer not having to cringe at every fifth dialogue choice because my character has to say something that I don't want to. Strangely I don't remember having such a problem in, say, Fallout or FONV, which might show that it isn't impossible to make adequate writing in a computer rpg.

I guess you also could write off Udina's behaviour as "different nature of space politics" or something (the council members are retards too which kinda contributes to this idea) but i would have liked a character of this position to show some kind of political skill in dealing with things
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>>321504898
>-no krogan playable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzyHSA0Uih8

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