Since we're getting a FF7 remake does that mean we'll eventually also get a Xenogears remake? With a full second disc.
I wish, but I don't think takahashi has good relations with square
>>321480984
I feel it would be too good to pass up, especially with all the junk Xeno games coming out.
>>321480890
Top kek, no. Square doesn't care about that, all they care about is that sweet FF7 do$h
>>321481693
What, are they going to make a remake to the remake or something
If Xenoblade X can prove just how much people want a Xeno game, maybe we can see some new works from Square or Bamco
>>321480890
All I want is it getting retranslated.
>>321481934
In 20 years, yes, but before that prepare that anus for 7 more sequels where Sephiroth returns for 6 of them and Genesis comes back to fanfic this shit up again, then only to reveal another villain to reveal themselves as another one of mommy's remnants for Cloud and his butt-buddies to get lewd with in that sweet SFM porn.
>>321482385
Xenoblade 2.0 kinda already did that, well it's more or less a undub + minor tweaking
>>321480890
Xenogears Remake is a pipe dream, Anon... We'll never play it the way Takahashi imagined.
>>321480890
I'm still holding out hope for a Xenosaga HD collection.
>>321481934
They're going to cut the remake in 3 parts and make you pay 3 times full price for the same game.
>>321480890
even if by some chance it was made modern square would never do it justice.
Frankly, even takahashi would fuck up the game if he was allowed to remake it at this point.
>>321483006
He was the one that fucked it up in the first place. He fucked up every game he was in charge of until Nintendo really stayed on his ass with Xenoblade.
>>321483120
What I mean is he'd fuck it up in a completely different way. He'd probably try it into an open world game like the blade games and downplay the story to the point everyone who was looking forward to it would be completely alienated.
>>321483560
>alienated
i c wat u did thar
>>321480890
>full second disc
More like Part 2 Director's Cut DLC for $19.99.
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What would it take to sell the IP over to Monolith? If Square isn't going to do anything more with it, what's the point of keeping it around?
Man, I was kid when I played Xenogears for the first time. Good times. Now I'm a fucking adult full of problems and thinking about offing myself. Fuck, now I'm depressed.
>>321480984
I'm hopeful Square and Nintendo/Monolith might release something Xenogears in the future. I would be happy with a 3DS or Next gen handheld release with a better translation.
>>321484010
The main point would be spite, which is pretty damn common in the jap industry. Did he leave on bad terms like most developers seem to? There's basically no chance in hell if he did.
>>321482478
>no martial artist class
>there's only one knuckle weapon for your Skell
I just want to go on an unstoppable rampage like Weltall-Id did against Solaris. I would also settle for an Arte comparable to System Id that allows for devastating melee combos.
>>321484010
And prove that square was wrong by cutting his fund? They would rather implode than admite they did any wrong, ever during their whole existance they only really admited to fucking up FFXIV and that was after the sheer shitstorm it generated
>>321484271
You can kinda be that in XCX with the Ares 90 which can one shot almost every enemy in the game. It also uses nunchucks
>>321484271
Yeah the whole kung-fu shit in giant robots was a big part of the game's draw for me. The mechs in X aren't nearly as over the top and they're downright ugly once loaded up with guns.
>>321480890
Man, I wish. I wish the Xeno series IP rights weren't spread out so much. There's so many good insane connection theories between the game that can never be legitimized because of this. In some wonderful, alternate universe, monolighsoft has them all...
>>321480890
Xenogears arpg with combos yeah. Shitty xc combat fuck no
Why is Xenoblade's tone all over the fucking place? In Xenogears the tone was on point minus the chu chu shit, but then you have Jar Jar Binks as an onion-man and then lin forcing her dank cooking meme every five fucking seconds
And then the music. It doesn't fit at all.
>>321482557
I'm with you, anon.
>tfw the petition didn't get close to enough signatures....
>>321484409
>And prove that square was wrong by cutting his fund?
Never happened.
>>321484010
which game is this? I'm not too familiar with the Xeno series
>>321485032
I dunno about cut-funding, but Gears was intended to be the next FF and they switched it halfway through because they thought the story was too mature for a FF. I'd imagine that came with a budget cut, since it became a new IP with no momentum.
>>321485149
I think it's Xenosaga 3
>>321484451
Using that with the male rebel voice has the pilot going all bruce lee on us
>>321485149
Xenosaga Episode III. The art style of those games really matured over time, considering that all the characters looked like moeshit in the first episode. If an HD collection ever happens, I wonder if they'd consider updating the models to make them more cohesive across the series....
>>321485190
>I dunno about cut-funding, but Gears was intended to be the next FF and they switched it halfway through because they thought the story was too mature for a FF
Funny because they then went and used it on FF7
>>321485336
Exactly. That's the great ironic joke about Xenogears/FFVII. imo, Gears holds up WAY better than VII, both visually and gameplay wise. Shame that it feels sort of incomplete. I can only think that VII is at least partially to blame for that.
>>321485323
>>321485237
Thanks,I've been waiting to get into this series for a while and that mech convinced melooks a bit like the Idolo from Z.o.E
>>321485481
I think the story was how they intended it through and through, they just had to cut most of the gameplay out of the second disc
>>321485481
>Holds up better gameplay-wise
What? It had a barely finished battle system that employed almost no strategy other than healing and spamming deathblows for the vast majority of the game. And that's not counting all the side-quests, mini-games, and other shit FF7 let you do.
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>>321485542
It's actually supposed to resemble the Xenogears
>>321480890
As much as I like the game anon, this is not possible Takahashi holds rights to the story, Square holds rights to the game.
Be happy that he is redoing Project Noah...albeit for the 3rd time in the Xenoblade series.
>>321484914
The music seems like it was intentionally done to be as different from what jrpg fans are used to as possible; you're on this alien world so you're getting music that doesn't fit in a normal jrpg, I guess?
The plot is really just a clusterfuck of inconsistency though, it constantly switches back and forth between melodrama and goofy shit, naturally it doesn't succeed at either very well.
And once you find outeverybody dies if they don't find the lifehold, the plot just becomes comical. How is everyone so nonchalant about it? Why are they devoting so much manpower to stupid shit?
>>321485190
It was pitched as a new FF, but it was immediately changed to a new IP before production even began. Anything you've heard about budget cuts or changed deadlines are just excuses to cover for Takahashi's admitted incompetence as a director.
I really don't know why retards try to defend a man that owns up to his faults.
>Elly: The people in Nisan will be fine. They can stand on their own without any support from me... This is also true of you all, right?
>Broyer: But why do you do so much for him...?
>Elly: I don't know. I guess it's a woman's prerogative to be selfish... perhaps.
>Helmholz: A woman's prerogative...?
>Elly: I'm not a holy woman of any sort. I'm just a regular woman. I get angry... I cry... I laugh... Although at times I can resent others, I also know how to love others. Loving whole masses of people at times... and loving just one person the rest of the time... I am in supreme bliss when I am embraced by the man that I love. Giving what I have to him, and receiving what he gives me, we become one flesh... That is the moment when I am most at peace. It is my prerogative as a woman to simply want to save the man that I love!
Why is she so perfect?
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>>321485923
>>321480890
Why not ask Bameco for Xenosaga?
>>321485873
Map exploration had way more depth, to it because of the decision to use 3D environments instead of pre-rendered.
The battle system had a lot of thought put into it, and I bet it would have been a landmark system if they had retained FF funding to push it through.
I've played them both a few times through, and Xenogears just feels like it has way more potential to me. But I guess I'm in the small camp that thinks FFVII was overrated. Not a bad game by any means, but it's just not as good to me as it seems to be to everyone else.
>>321486530
>if they had retained FF funding to push it through.
The fuck you talking about?
>>321486530
>FFVII was overrated.
That probably depends on when you actually played the game. You would have had to play that game around the time of it's release and at least be a teenager. I think first tried it around 2009 at age 19 and I couldn't get into it.
>>321486530
The battle system had a lot of thought put into it but not enough to balance it or even make some of its mechanics worth doing. The entire combo bar and 'storing' AP is basically useless other than one or two boss fights. There was also never any reason to use anything other than your strongest deathblows unless you were trying to learn another.
>>321480890
Robots are a meme.
There are robots in Xenogears, that makes it a meme game, so it sucks.
>>321480890
>Wanting a simple remake instead of having them actually making the entire series
in all seriousness though I don't want modern square touching anything from the PS1 era on back
>With a full second disc
Your best bet is that Takahashi decides not to drop the story of Xeno X, and see how it develops in Xeno XX.fucking christ takahashi why do you always leave so much shit without answers
>>321487443
He's a hack.
>>321487253
Are the rest of the episodes supposed to be Xenosaga or something? I don't know much about the Xeno series.
>>321486530
>Map exploration had way more depth, to it because of the decision to use 3D environments instead of pre-rendered.
Which would be nice if the game's dungeons weren't all boring and/or poorly designed. And the most disappointing part is the game came out after Grandia, which had a nearly identical look and feel from a technical perspective, but had way better dungeons and lacked the stupid platforming mechanics.
>>321487121
What are you, some kind of parrot with tourettes? Did you just happened to catch a couple of anons talking about how reddit memes are shit, got drunk and woke up one morning with shit and meme constantly swirling around your head to the point that you call almost everything a shit meme?
>>321487557
Xenosaga was supposed to be a re-imagined episode 1.
>>321487557
>>321487775
Xenoblade X is also roughly the first part of Episode 1.
>>321487253
So...is this basically the Japanese Dune?
>>321487557
As you can see there Xenogears was episode 5 (you only learn that after the credits) of a 6 part series of which not all were going to be games. Xenogears ended up being about 75% completed, basically the second half of the game is all story and cutscenes with very little actual gameplay. Reasons for this aren't entirely concrete, some blame the director for being bad with time while others blame Square for sending the budget over to FF8.
After all this a large part of the team that worked on Xenogears left Square and formed their own company and made the Xenosaga trilogy. It's supposed to be a spiritual prequel to Xenogears that kinda sorta covers episode one of the Xenogears series but can't actually be called that because they don't have the rights to it obviously. Some people enjoy them but most find them to be sub part, they just don't have the same magic.
>>321487557
Aside from episodes 1 and 6, most of these plot details are covered in in-game cutscenes. Needless to say, it turns into a massive clusterfuck and if you're not completely absorbed by the story, you're not gonna enjoy the game.
>>321487557
Xenogears itself covers all of those timelines save episode 6, and honestly I don't see how they ever could have been compelling games unless the story Gears told in those eras was a footnote in something else that happened in those eras.
Saga is more or less Episode 1, but its different enough it doesn't totally line up.
>>321487918
>Reasons for this aren't entirely concrete
Takahashi fully admits that he fucked up his past projects. It's all on him.
When will this stupid meme die?
>>321486863
I played it as a teen when it first came out and liked it, but even then I thought the popeye-arm characters looked a bit silly and the story was trying a little too hard.
>>321488106
Nowhere is there a direct explanation as to what happened.
It's not very plausible that someone wrote out a game the size of Xenogears and then accidentally ran out of time and money, you kinda see that coming years off.
>>321486863
nope. First played it around the same time and age you did and I love it. Was my third FF game so not even first FF props either.
>>321486174
Elly a best.
>>321488316
Takahashi directly said that he had a habit of giving up halfway through a project before Xenoblade. This combined with the fact that his next game right after Xenogears suffered from the same exact problems is enough to tell any reasonably intelligent person that it's solely his fault.
Xenosaga Episode 1 contained a fucking apology that Jin had to be cut from the game at the last minute.
>>321488316
>It's not very plausible that someone wrote out a game the size of Xenogears and then accidentally ran out of time and money
It is when you're making shit up as you go along and continually adding to it instead of trying to finish what you've already written. Gears really seems like the sort of story that just has a lot of shit needlessly thrown in because they thought it was cool. There's entire segments of the game that don't really advance the plot in any meaningful way and even some of the stuff cut in disk 2 like the SDF1 knockoff is solely there to be goofy referential shit.
>>321487689
Robots are a meme. So are skeletons and spiders. Any game that contains them is automatically a meme game.
>>321488592
Still not seeing it anon, sorry but that's not evidence enough.
>>321488736
If you go through perfect works you'll see just how much work they had done, it's really not the kind of project where they made it up as they went along.
They got pretty fucking crazy with some of the details.
>>321489073
Yeah, but the game contradicts Perfect Works a bunch of times with some of those details, so how can you be completely sure?
>>321489073
>There’s an old Japanese proverb about a cricket trying to swim across a river. At first it’s swimming away happily, but halfway across, it just seems to give up. I’d worked on a lot of games up until that point, and there were times when I’ve done the same.
You are completely retarded to deny the man's own words and make up some stupid, baseless bullshit about lack of funds. You've yet to provide any evidence to the contrary.
>>321489073
> it's really not the kind of project where they made it up as they went along.
I don't agree. The core story, sure, that was pretty well thought out and probably finalized early on. But there's tons of shit in the game that doesn't really have much to do with the main narrative and could have been thrown in at almost any point.
>Xenogears remake
Never ever.
99% of the game would be censored, and I would hate to see what changes they would make to my favorite rpg.
How long does it take for copyrights to expire in Japan? I know it's retard long in the US cuz of lobbying.
>>321490434
What's there to censor exactly besides a little blood in the EU and JP versions?
>>321491931
Pixel ass and tiddies.
>>321491931
Sex scene
>>321491931
Purple hair lady shows booty and cleavage.
>>321491503
Copyright will remain with the creator till death plus an extra 50 years. As you could guess, most people on /v/ will be dead by then.
>>321487557
The Xenosaga trilogy covers episode 1.
Xenogears itself is episode 5, but it covers enough of 2, 3, and 4 in flashback sequences.
>>321491931
The whole thing where Timothy-clone dies in a laser grid, then gets turned into food for people who spend their whole lives in a cubicle.
> tfw you get Xenogears after the brokenness that is Weltall-2 and System ID
Give me back my mech
>>321492180
Mian? I'm going to need some visual confirmation on this.
>>321492651
Xenogears was better.
I just got flashbacks of everything I liked about this game.
> GOAT combat system
> Mild platforming elements that made world traversal deeper/more interesting
> Cool side activities
> Awesomely done scenario
Why don't JRPGs try any more?
>>321492989
Your nostalgia has blinded you if you think shit like a really bad fighting game and stupidly implemented Speed count as "cool side activities"
>>321491931
Dialogues, lewd scenes, children violence, drugs, gore, religion, etc
Xenogears was already a polemic game when it came out in the past, so I cant imagine how bad it would be if it was remade and localized.
Even worse if it was release on Nintendo consoles.
>>321492651
Nigga what, xenogears is broken
>>321492989
>Mild platforming elements that made world traversal deeper/more interesting
And made that one area a fucking nightmare.
Who /Ares90/ here
>>321491931
That the Jews are the bad guys.
>>321494501
SHUT IT DOWN.
>the ending to Yelv's last affinity quest
WHAT THE FUCK
THE
FUCK
>>321486530
Eh, the battle system was pretty weak in retrospect. I made it all the way to Kislev sewers without having used anything but the most basic 3 move deathblows (because I was like 12 years old and had no clue wtf I was doing). That was when I had to learn that the way you learned new deathblows was by going through their motions repeatedly... even though you had know way to know wtf those motions were, so you look them up. But this just leads to the epitome of grinding to unlock deathblows.
I liked many other aspects of the system, like how they handled Gears needing fuel and maintenance. Still one of my favorite RPGs of all time.
>>321494763
>start doing a quest in Oblivia revolving around the Black Skell
>dude I just helped gets a call from his partner who got captured in Cauldros
>describes his location>asks me which direction he should go to avoid hitting a dead end
>>321494501
I prefer Deus, Yaweh sounds pretty retarded.
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