How do I git gud? I can't get the hang of this well enough to get to the bonfire in the Undead Parish. Hell I'm having trouble getting across the bridge before the Hellkite Dragon burns me alive. Pls help.
Play the spin-off called Dark Souls 2, then come back.
The point of gitting gud is that you reach an obstacle and grind through it until you can punch through the next. You'll never git gud if you cant adapt to a learning curve.
If you want to git gud, you must praise the sun every morning.
what are you dying from the most right now?
>>321479971
keep your shield up and backstab everything, failing that just keep shield up and look at the enemy moves to learn them I guess
>>321479971
>Use trainer
>increase your level by 40 to make sure you have enough HP,dex,strn
>still die to filthy bosses
>get op item which you will get very late in game, still get slaughtered
>use godmode and kill those mofos just by standing like fucking tryndamere
>finish the game in 30min and post how you beat the game and it is for normies
>>321481854
I have trouble with getting through the spear guys' guards, and I'm having trouble getting by the dragon on the bridge because it keeps burning me to death before I can hit the stairs.
Start as a sorcerer, game is almost too easy when you can spam soul arrows put a fuckton of points into intelligence stat and some into channeling for the bigger spells save those for special enemies. Honestly it's a bunch of lucky bullshit dodging bosses with your roll. Don't try to run past the drake he's pretty easy to kill that ledge behind the stairs has a spot you can avoid the firebreath but like roll dodging sometimes it is pure luck you can do everything right and still get hit by bullshit sometimes which is like the most frustrating part of the game.
>>321482729
>I have trouble with getting through the spear guys' guards
Learn to kick or don't lock on so you can roll behind them.
>and I'm having trouble getting by the dragon on the bridge because it keeps burning me to death before I can hit the stairs.
Stay to the side of the bridge and it won't do as much damage.
>>321482729
you run faster with lighter gear, fastest with nothing equipped
>>321482729
>spear guys
2-hand your weapon and whack them a few times to get their guard down
>dragon
Hug the right wall, go down the stairs, kick down the ladder to the burg bonfire and go under the bridge
Okay, I got the ladder kicked down, that's going to make things a lot easier. Fuck's sake, thanks guys.
>>321483964
Try safe spot
>>321482729
Before you do the dragon equip your best fire defence stuff, run in there, keep up your shield when it breathes fire and you should survive, then head down the stairs on the right to find the bonfire shortcut.
>>321484667
>keep up your shield
it's actually better to leave it down so the fire knocks you down giving you some i-frames. if you hold your shield up is just keeps doing damage.
>>321483964
No problem. There are some tough enemies coming up with unique armor (you can tell the difference quickly) that use rapiers and longswords. They're a lot tougher than the spear bastards, and they can parry your weapon. If you ever see them enter a defensive stance with their weapon held in front of them, that's their tell that you should NOT attack. Backstab those fools.
Listen for the sounds of a blacksmith. If you see a path that goes down some stairs and seems to have some trees around it, that's your safe spot. Your weapon's level >>>> your own level so spend money on upgrading your shit before leveling up.
>>321484916
I'll keep all that in mind, thanks.
Steps to beating dark souls
Step 1: hold up shield
Step 2: lock on
Step 3: circle strafe to the enemies backside (note it doesnt have to be really anywhere near the center of their back)
Step 4: hit them in the back. Enemies in dark souls have no tracking for some stupid reason, so 90% of all enemies cant handle you walking behind them, and since you get i frames from backstabbing, other enemies wilk try to attack you, propelling them through you, for another easy backstab.
>>321479971
It's because you started with dark souls and not demons souls. Demons souls is much easier and will prepare you for the more difficult games.
>>321485808
forgot to mention weapon upgrades>leveling
you can easily beat the game with out ever leveling up, its near impossible if you dont ever upgrade your weapons
How do I get past this guy
>>321487107
Jump on him
>>321487107
Kill his minions then circle around him and stab his unprotected ass
>>321487107
attack but hole
>>321487107
>bait him
>run back into doorway
>stab him from behind when he starts walking back
>repeat
Kill all his fag friends first though.
![BSinEbP[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JkgwQqm.png "BSinEbP[1].png")
>bought SotFS today because of a co-op friend who was going to purchase it
>start playing
>realize "new and improved" enemy placement just means doubling the enemies in a tiny space and adding archers everywhere
>NPCs are now in different places for no good reason, most notably at the wharf
>graphics are barelly better at the cost of a huge framerate penalty. A game that once run at 60 frames full res now chugs with everything set to lowest
>mfw
I should've just gotten the fucking DLC
>>321487297
>>321487359
>>321488151
lol retards
>>321487192
is literally what you're supposed to do and it's 10x easier. there are even alluring skulls on top of that bridge above him so you can lure him beneath you.
>>321479971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayiK65lvxSs
>>321487107
>go up the stairs
>kill the guy with the crossbows
>grab the Alluring Skulls
>throw them in the fire at the bottom of where the last crossbow guy was
>stupidity ensues
>>321488390
>being so bad you need items
lmao
>>321487107
I lit him on fire
>>321487107
>kill the guy with the spear on the right
>bait the boar to charge into the pillars
>he can't get through those pillars, so just attack his face until he dies
>>321488196
this is bait.
>>321479971
To get good, make the game as easy for yourself as possible. Seeing more of the game and how it functions, what you'll have at your disposal, how the mechanics work, etc. will go a lot further than beating your head against the wall trying to "git gud".
Restart. Pick Pyromancer. Throw fire at everything. Buy the heater shield off the merchant in the burg. Read how to join the Warriors of Sunlight covenant. Buy a bow and a few hundred wood arrows and shoot the tail off the dragon. Before you use the sword that gives you, read up and make sure you understand how stat scaling on weapons works, and why you can't use that sword forever. Read up on weapon upgrading. Explore everywhere.
From here, you should be able to play pretty well.
>>321488880
awful advice, ignore this shit
>>321488650
I knew I wasn't going crazy. I know I remembered not even having to fight that guy because he just burned himself to death. I just couldn't remember what it was he burned himself on.
>>321488880
totally, just try to understand the mechanics and you should be fine OP
>>321488953
I guess so. That's more or less how my first playthrough went though, and if I didn't see more of the game than the parish before I was well and truly frustrated, I doubt I would have bothered to figure it out. Now I'm at countless playthroughs and I don't rely on crutches anymore obviously, because if you know what you're doing they only slow you down.
Best advice ANYONE in this thread gave though is: >>321485808 if you pay attention to when blocking is fucking you so you know when to stop doing that. And if you learn to roll by unequipping all your armor against bosses that are assblasting you.
>>321485808
You forgot to mention that you can't backstab if you strike while holding up your shield. You have to lower your shield before being able to backstab. This is very important.
>>321489872
also press triangle before you backstab to 2hand your weapon and do more damage
this will work on every enemy and boss in the game
>>321485808
if its this easy then why is it so praised in the gaming comunity? like holy shit thats fucking stupid easy.
>>321487107
Try to bait him into charging one of the fires scattered around, they deal some pretty heavy damage.
>>321482912
>lucky bullshit
This isn't DaS2, enemies actually have patterns and are fair.
>>321490628
Because despite that, the game is stillfun.
Also, that strategy doesn't work with everything.
>>321490971
How is that different in DaS2?
>>321490628
play the game
>>321491540
i have but never knew bout this trick, makes it so much easier now lol
>>321491605
you didn't know about backstabs?
>>321491651
nope, i always just attacked head on, breaking my weapon half the time.
>>321491710
are we even playing the same game Anon?
>>321491710
don't the tutorial messages in the asylum tell you about them?
>>321491326
>How is that different in DaS2
neverending 360 degree tracking overheads that knock you down
turtle knights, the giant soldiers at the heide's ruins bit, the knights at the dragon eyrie all do this
At no point in my first playthrough of DaS did I ever go "That wasn't fair." (Except for my first encounter with Seethe, which you quickly realize is supposed to kill you)
The 360 autotracking overheads are the worst, but the lazy hitboxes (the trolls can grab you from meters outside their grab, mimics can grab you in an instant kill from behind their mouth and arms), and boring boss design for most of the game just make it overall less enjoyable. I still consider it a better experience than most games though.
>>321491765
yep, though im playing DaS2 atm cause DS 1 is a pain in the ass to have to patch for 60fps
>>321491776
yes but i never truly understood it.
>>321491940
>i never truly understood "stand behind enemy and press r1"
you might be retarded
>>321491940
>DS 1 is a pain in the ass to have to patch for 60fps
If you've never opened a folder in explorer before maybe?
>>321492003
>implying i was playing it on ps3
doesn't say "stand behind enemy and press r1" on pc so no just says "stand behind enemy and press backtstab button" literally says backstab button.
>homing soul mass with max orbs
Pretty comfy if you always have it cast. Nothing will get the jump on you.
>>321492145
>playing with KB+M on PC
>not trying one of the few buttons available to you
>>321492121
nah there is certain things you have to do and if you fuck up just 1 thing it fucks up the whole game. Which both times i've tried playing DaS 1 has happened, and no one knows the fix for it so i wind up having to figure it out on my own.
>>321492145
If something says press OK to continue do you type in OK?
>>321492145
>playing with a m+kb
Jesus Christ. The guy who beat DaS with the rockband drumset had an easier time. All the prompts change to 360 buttons as soon as you plug a controller in.
>>321492217
wasn't playing with keyboard and mouse, was playing with controller, and i did try all the buttons nothing ever worked, so i just assumed that i was doing something wrong.
>>321491886
I don't see how any of this is unfair except for the hitboxes. Pattern is still fair. Once you see their attacks, you just go with it.
>>321492305
cept they didn't, so get fucked.
You can bait the kite dragon off its perch if you stand in the alcove opposite the stairs and shoot him with an arrow. You don't even need the skill points to actually do damage with the bow. Even if the arrow only does 1 damage, it makes it jump off the perch and land on the bridge. The SECOND it lands, Sprint between its legs towards the end of the bridge where the bonfire is. Duck to the right because hellfire WILL be on your heels. You can sometimes make it completely unscathed, other times you'll be clipped but still live.
Once you're completely in, the drake flies away. If you're in need of a decent weapon in the beginning, the part under the bridge There is a spot you can shoot its tail with a bow and manually aiming. Breaking its tail will give you the drake sword which is a great starter weapon.
>I meant to spoiler the last part, a function I NEVER use on desktop version of 4chan so please forgive me if it didn't work.
>>321492232
You sound like you must be getting the DS1 fix off some website other than the original. It's spelled out in plain english. My little sister literally installed the patch on her own after she asked if she could use steam sharing to play DS1 on her own desktop.
>>321492232
you drag and drop a file, change 1 or 2 lines in it, and disable the in game AA
that's literally it
>>321492458
>didn't know about backstabbing in a souls game
>implying I'm the one getting fucked
tip top tea time
>>321492232
>>321492601
>>321492669
not trolling but honestly why bother getting 60fps on DaS1? Why not just play at the standard 30fps? Even old PCs can keep DaS1 at 30 fps without drops.
>>321487107
lead it towards those stairs that you need to go through to progress, it cant follow you in and will de-aggro immediately so you can just keep backstabbing it up the butthole over and over.
>>321492801
because i prefer 60
>>321492601
nope, just if you want the game to look good while playing at 60fps you have to do extra shit and since they haven't updated the file since idk when its still a bitch to figure out which settings conflict with other settings. The game looks so fucking horrible on PC if you don't turn on 1 of the settings in the fix.
>>321492801
have you ever tried playing DaS1 at 30fps? LOL
>>321492758
no i knew bout backstabbing just didn't know how easy backstabbing was with a shield, also DaS1 does not explain too well what button to press for backstab even if you plug in xbox controller so people need to stop trolling.
>>321492801
>Even old PCs can keep DaS1 at 30 fps without drops.
Assuming that an official patch at some point came out to make this true.
Assuming that you're just ignoring the fact that the game has other problems such as resolution settings problems that the patch also fixes.
Assuming that we can all pretend 30fps is 'just fine' when 60fps is about 8 or 9 mouseclicks away.
Assuming all of that, you'd still be a dumby buttmouth to not play the best version of a game at no additional charge.
>>321492949
>have you ever tried playing DaS1 at 30fps? LOL
Your rolls are better because your iframes aren't reduced by half?
>>321492949
>"Get behind an enemy and press R1 for a critical hit"
Wow, that was hard.
Don't become reliant on parrying and backstabbing if you plan on playing DeS or DaS2. In fact, don't take rolling for granted if you plan on playing DaS2.
>>321492949
>directional buttons change your items/weapons/spells
>left trigger is block/parry
>A is use
>B is sprint/roll/jump
>X is item
>Y is switch to two hand/one hand
>right trigger is attack
take a fucking guess which one will do a backstab
>>321493153
yea it doesn't fucking say that, go ahead go play DaS1 with an xbox controller and report back here, on pc of course. PS3 and XBOX 360 SURE it will tell you that, but pc does not.
>>321492949
30 fps is fine. its when it drops below that is when its a problem, which it was prone to do on consoles.
>>321493203
>Don't become reliant on backstabbing if you plan on playing DaS2.
I'm sorry, what?
>>321492949
>have you ever tried playing DaS1 at 30fps? LOL
Yes. I bought DaS1 Prepare to Die Edition for $5 and beat it several times over all at standard 30 fps. Going to the 60 fps of Das2 was a nice change, but I got comfortable with 30. The only time I ever had an issue was when Lava was on the screen. Would get fps dips down to 25.
As far as backstabs are concerned that everyone is talking about, you can cheese the vast majority of DaS1 with fucking backstabs. PVP is a fucking joke and comes down to who can roll into backstab range first.
At least DaS2 required the animation to land before going through with the backstab.
>Who else here only played as undead to avoid invasions?
>>321493242
hmm idk, Rb attacks, right trigger attacks, lb attacks left trigger attacks, ALL of which i've tried to do without using a shield in DaS1 all of which never fucking worked but attacked normally.
>>321493203
Turtling behind a solid shield or playing a ranged character just seems like the intended playstyle for DaS2. Everything about melee in 2 feels bad. Except the better backstab and parry animations.
>>321493251
I literally just wrote what is says in the game, and im playing with an xbox360 controller on PC
>>321493464
yea i call bullshit, how bout an actual screenshot. Its not fucking hard.
>>321493349
>didn't patch DaS1
>didn't have framedrops in blight town
I don't believe you. That is all.
>>321493395
special delivery just for you you retard
PC version with DS4
>>321493604
>took damage in undead asylum
Anon...
>>321493329
You remember how almost every enemy can spin on its toe like a ballerina to prevent you from backstabbing in DaS2, even enemies built specifically to punish flanking attempts like the TMNT enemies?
>>321493691
it was the arrows in that hallway where your shield is. i was just running through.
>>321493604
yea well it didn't always say that, thats for sure. As i've said I haven't played the first one in awhile so what I exerienced with the version that required GFWL is different then what you're experiencing.
>>321493847
right
>>321493847
>Continuing with this weak ass bait
>>321493926
yea cause game devs have never ever fucked up before right?
>>321479971
in addition to all the other shit, dark souls is really a game of learning patterns and timing, try to observe an enemies movements and attacks before you go in for the kill so you know when to block or attack, if you get really good at the timing you can parry and knifefuck them in short order.
>>321494000
just stop embarrassing yourself
>Finally get Dark Souls 2
>Everything felt so awesome at first
>Every other boss is just multiple enemies stunlocking you
>Then you start dying from constant undead gangbangs where enemies drop behind you from nowhere leaving you sandwiched
>Also instagib pits fucking everywhere and shitty jump sections
>Literal artificial difficulty
>>321494086
im not embarrassed. I know what I saw.
>>321494204
>i really saw him, Jeb! i really saw bigfoot wrasslin the loch ness monster!
>>321494248
nah the loch ness monster bothers me wife for tree fiddy. I always tell him no but he always comes back! Damn loch ness monstah!
>>321493737
Except you totally can backstab them when they're in their attack animations? That part you mean?
Git gud.
>thought I was gud at Souls
>died about 30 times to Vicar Laurence in Bloodborne, NG+
These games have a way to consistently remind me I'm shit, even when I think I've gotten the hang of it, even on fights that look easy when you look at someone else doing them.
Hoping Souls 3 also ends up causing a lot of embarrassing deaths for me.
>>321493094
I never did it because I always figured it would fuck the game physics like how when you unlock fps on Bethesda games everything goes ape shit.
Not to mention my eye to hand coordination was so used to 30fps parries.
>>321490628
look man, i love dark souls, but it has its problems. its done things better than demons/ds2, its done things worse than demons/ds2. its still a fun game worth playing, just like every other souls game/bb, because overall the pros massively outweigh the cons, but once you get down that enemies dont have tracking, most enemy encounters become the same thing.
its a great game and you can easily sink hundreds of hours into any of the souls games, but its not the flawless, tactics filled, ball bustingly hard game with perfect mechanics that you hear fanboys scream about.
>>321494105
>undead gangbang
Please, I'm so close to finishing NoFap 2015. Don't bring up what is literally my fetish so close to the end.
>>321494105
>he doesn't know how to jump
>he doesn't know how to use a torch to avoid falling down pits
>he doesn't know how to pull mobs properly
>he doesn't know how to fight enemies 1v1 when there are multiple of them
>>321494537
It does fuck up physics, causes you to glitch through the floor more often, and also causes issues when rolling or jumping off ledges where your momentum isn't kept and you kind of just jump down with no forward movement at all. Also messes up parry timings a bit. Overall though, these issues don't come up often, and the higher FPS was worth it in my opinion. You get used to 60 fps parry timings, but it can be weird if you learned them on 30 fps.
>>321494712
>Implying having to do any of this is fun at all
>>321494496
Dodge.
Any time a boss in bloodborne starts an attack, especially an attack chain, just spam dodge. This is even more exploitable if you use the shadowstep. They went way too far with how many iframes you get in BB.
>>321494609
idk i've tried liking it, at one point I was semi-pro but then i stopped playing for awhile
>never backstabbed once
I came back to it recently and its like all the time i put into the game has vanished. Just feels so shitty to have put so many hours in and the second you stop for over a year you lose your footing. Then I hear everyone just backstabs everything and its like "wtf is even the point?"
>>321494635
>NoFap 2015
All of my why.
- 2 hand your weapon
- Upgrade your weapon to +5; upgrading is more important than leveling up
- Vitality and endurance are the most important things to level up
- Get the wolf ring (look up where it is on youtube)
- Kill hollow soldiers until you get the hollow soldier waistcloth. It is the best leg gear in the game. You may wonder why, it is because it gives you 7 poise. Its defenses aren't good but it gives you good poise relative to its weight.
This will allow you to take a few hits before getting staggered, so you will dish out more damage and take less damage.
>>321494868
>semi-pro
>>321494784
eh to each their own then I guess. My PC keeps up and rarely ever goes lower than 24fps (blighttown as per usual). I'd rather lower fps than having to worry if my last 20 minutes of effort will be in vain as I'm launched through the floor during a roll.
And DaS2 had fps linked to fucking weapon durability which was stupid as shit.
I'm just really hoping DaS3 gets their shit together and learned from prior mistakes.
>>321494852
The issue with Vicar is that the timing on a lot of his attacks makes it so that if you get hit and spam dodge, his follow-up hit will always hit you as you exit the dodge. He has built-in anti-dodge-spamming. Haven't tried with shadowstep though, whatever that is (I borrowed BB so probably missed a lot of content rushing through it).
Also, his crawl handslam 360 noscope headshote infinite combo will fuck you up no matter what if you get staggered at any point in that sequence. I know how to dodge, but that asshole just made it way too hard. Orphan of Kos was extremely easy to dodge in comparison.
>>321487107
I just go to the stair on the right, there is some fire there, he will walk and burn to death.
>>321495028
considering i didn't need to use backstab to kill shit, i'd like to think so. Everyone else is using the pussy way and im just attacking head on and not dying. Sure now I have problems cause like I said haven't played in a long time, but when I did play I never used back stab and got through the game just fine.
>>321494827
>complains about difficulty
>get told
>b-b-but not fun!!1!
What a scrub.
>>321495156
everybody doesn't just backstab everything. you aren't special.
>>321495075
>And DaS2 had fps linked to fucking weapon durability which was stupid as shit.
This was mainly an issue if you kept swinging at corpses. Or if you used the Malformed Skull, back when Flame Malformed Skull was the hottest thing in the game.
>>321494878
I'd wrecked my sensitivity with my frequent fapping and fairly firm grip, couldn't finish with any kind of sex, toom ages to finish with blowjobs. I still get off a few times a week with mywifebut I've gone the whole year without even a quick jerkoff to relieve the tension. Its 'reset' my sensitivity, I probably still take longer than the average guy to cum for penis in vagina, but at least I can now.
>>321495156
>you're a semi-professional because you kill regular enemies without a certain technique
>>321495197
no of course you can't back stab bosses but even normal enemies i never back stabbed.
>>321494884
all of this cept for the hollow soldier armor. I'm running full Giant's Armor upgraded all to +5 and a +15 Zweihander and Silver Knight's shield. Paired with 60 endurance/wolf ring I have stupid amount of poise.
>tfw poise checking through multiple hits and just smashing my way through anything.
>tfw stunning Smough with a 2h Zwei strong attack and just buttfucking him like it's my job to.
>>321495197
I for one tried to parry everything. It's riskier than backstabs, sure, but it just feels so much better.
Parrying the shit out of Twin Pursuers in my solo Jackie Chan run was really fun. Died dozens of times, sure, but fun nonetheless.
>>321494496
Souls 3 is a bit slower than BB but much faster than 1 and 2. Having a shield with the more responsive controls and quicker pace made it a fucking breeze when I played the demo at PSX.
>>321495306
>he has a wife
>>321479971
Play turtlemode until you're more comfortable with dodging. The basic undead can be easily blocked, then smack them when they bounce off of your shield.
>>321495343
>Giants and zweihander
WELL WHAT IS IT
>>321495316
what would you call it then? cause clearly thats how everyone plays the game and if you don't you're a noob and should stop playing Dark souls. Specially judging by all the comments that were getting mad at me for not knowing how to back stab. But nah I'm the noob because I got through the game without using it. Yep.
>>321495227
all i know was my greatsword kept fucking breaking. Was going through repair powder like an addict through his grandmother's prescriptions.
Didn't help the greatsword would not only hit the enemy but would slightly drag along the wall or ceiling when swung.
I really want to go back and play a non melee oriented character with more focus on like hexes or sorcery but getting all achievements kind of desensitized me to the entire game.
When it comes to backstabs I don't understand why people are so obsessed with them. Everyone always tries to backstab me when I invade them, and I always just laugh and backstab them instead. It's a boring, shitty playstyle for scrubs. I'd rather mix it up with a variety of different attacks, maybe some magic, maybe some archery, etc.
Very few people actually succeed in backstabbing me, and when they do, it's because they're a lagger. More often than not what happens is I calmly walk up to them and R1 spam them because I see them going for the braindead backstab so I know they're R1 spammable, goomba-tier opponents, and somehow they get turned around and I either deliberately or unintentionally get a counter backstab on them. Pair that with my other hits and by the time I backstab them they'll also take bleed damage so they're dead.
>>321484739
Or just fucking sprint to the stairs right after it beathes and you won't get hit
>>321495160
Artorias or O&S were fun fights even if you died a hundred times to them.
Having to carefully pull monsters to not get some hollow ass-to-mouth isn't fun.
Deal with it, autist.
>>321495685
your weapon still breaks from casting spells, but its funny that you think that won't happen lmao
>>321495461
Don't worry pham. I hit her with the prenup combo, plus she can't have kids. So its more just having a good friend I fuck who helps pay the bills and passively lowers what I lose to taxes each year.
On topic, what's ya'lls favorite armor set? I'm partial to the paladin set from DaS, but I also really wish the boar helmet had armor to go with it, because i love that thing.
>>321495620
ugh what kills me is everyone thinks I was some Giant Dad memster when I've been running that build since fucking DaS1 released on PC
>Giant dad armor easy to get
>Giant Blacksmith sells twinkling titanite
>Giants/lightning demons around the giant are more than enough to be able to fully upgrade the armor just by doing a shit load of runs back and forth farming
>Zwei is just a damage:weight ratio monster
My only gripe is the Claymore not having heavier more staggering swings. That claymore moveset is GOAT.
>>321495707
exactly, but apparently you're playing DaS wrong if you don't back stab!
>skipped DS2 because I heard it was garbage
>play bloodborne and fucking love it
>get DS2 new edition anyway because I don't want there to be a gap between DS1 and DS3 because autism
>attempt to play it
>after playing bloodborne for weeks get my shit absolutely handed to me by finite health, slow controls, and the worst hitboxes ever conceived
>>321495858
wasn't implying casting spells didn't hurt gear. Just saying as a whole. As in I focused all my time/effort on melee type and never really bothered with any spells other than collecting them for the achievement.
>tfw watching my buddy play and he pulls off a Climax hex for 2.1k damage
>>321495782
>shifts the subject of the conversation because he can't handle being wrong
Kek.
>>321495681
A semi professional is someone who beats the game at NG+7 at SL1. You're just someone who decided to not use a technique. Nobody is special just because he doesn't use parries or kicks.
>>321480567
Dark Souls 2 is harder than the 1st one. Much harder if you have Scholar of the First Sin.
>>321495971
My first playthrough was the same as yours except with the Claymore instead of the Zwei.
>>321496178
>playing DaS2 for the first time
>level 130
>just finished Drangleic Castle
>decide to go try the DLC
>go to Crown of the Sunken King place
>getting my fucking shit slapped left and right
This DLC is fucking terrible.
>>321495951
Can't talk much about DaS1 because I only got over 125 hours in it, but I like the Drakeblood set, Alva set and LGK set in DaS2.
>>321496094
If kicks and jumping attacks had a dedicated button, I'd actually adapt them to my playstyle. Half the time I do either its a complete accident.
>>321496094
you sure im not special? so many butt blasted anons here cringing at me for not back stabbing, I thought if you get attention you are special?
>>321496018
nah you got your ass handed to you because you are trash at video games
>>321496000
>>321495707
I don't get why you faggots are so "proud" that you're not using backstabs. You're just as idiotic as the guys who do nothing but backstab fish. A good player knows when to use a backstab, when to trade or parry or sneak in some hits, it's just an attack like any other that's part of your arsenal and that you should use when appropriate. Whereas a faggot goes "NO BACKSTABBU IS DISHONORABRU"
>>321495306
Did it help your concentration at all? Supposedly that's the benefit of nofap
>>321496281
It's terrible because you suck at the game?
Btw, the DLCs are made for endgame.
>>321496360
I had no trouble with Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, but suddenly I'm bad at video games because From forgot how to game design?
>>321496436
no it's terrible because the enemy placement is fucking garbage
>love DeS so much its the only game I've platinum'd
>really like DaS and what it did differently, play it all the way through
>played through BB and its DLC, have a ton of fun with the changes they made
>finally get DaS2 for Christmas today
good God this game sucks so far. it doesnt even feel like a Souls game. why are there SO many enemies all over the place? why are the levels so...unintuitive? why does the combat feel way more difficult when I'm not even out of the second area? pls tell me this gets better
>>321496094
I'm certainly still on the subject, faggot. Perhaps you should learn to live with the reality that I'm right and you're wrong. It was you who started using greentext like a true redditor.
Do you think all the complaints about DaS2 came from nowhere?
There really are problems with enemy placement and many of the bosses are fucking garbage, much like you.
Also it was you who started using greentext like a true autist, >b-b-but not fun!!1!.
I'll just consider you a troll from now on. Points for getting me mad, though.
>>321496442
You're bad at video games because you don't know how to adapt, yes?
>>321496187
my problem with the claymore was that it is "meh" for a endurance/strength related build. It only really pulls through for a quality build.
My first ever playthrough of the entire game was a quality build on accident.
>Find you can aim with bows but now crossbows. Ok, no problem, level Dex
>Get lucky when I kill the first Black Knight and he drops his sword
>Holy fuck this damage is nuts, fuck I need EVEN MORE dex/stre
>Finally get the required amount (didn't know about the 2H grip on a weapon affecting strength)
>upgrade the elite knight set to +14 everything and BKS to +5
>Literally shit on anything and everything with BKS
I had very low HP too because someone told me you can only level to soul level 80 and that is the game's "ceiling" for leveling. I was like 62 by the time I had the stats I needed and was paranoid I'd be using precious level up points on the wrong stat (Vitality)
ah good times
>>321496436
SL130 is pretty much fucking end game man.
>>321496436
>>321496514
and it's just like the rest of this shitty fucking game where they constantly throw 3-4 enemies at you at once. DaS2 really fucking sucks and has completely killed my desire to play through Dark Souls 1 and 2 and then buy a PS4 to play Bloodborne in preparation for DaS3.
>>321496523
Dark Souls 2 is the game where enemies almost never stop attacking, and difficulty = add more fuckers to this room.
It doesn't get better.
>>321496567
except thats wrong, faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UScsme8didI
>>321495681
Parry king or go home
>>321496435
It helps me concentrate during sex more
But I haven't really noticed any benefits outside the bedroom. I'm definitely more flirty towards women in general, and I notice myself checking out hot women like I used to back in my school days.
>>321496686
2 is the red-headed stepchild of the Souls family. the other games in the series are worth your time. and I'm really hoping 3 will be too
>>321496565
>I'm certainly still on the subject, faggot.
No. The subject was the supposed ''artificial difficulty'', not the fun factor. But have fun calling people trolls. I'm sure one day, you'll learn how to stay on topic when trying to argue with somebody.
>>321494000
>>321493847
>>321493395
>>321496567
>hur dur you're just bad at video games it's not actually programmed badly!
I didn't realize DS2 apologists actually existed on this board.
>fight pursuer
>he swipes at me
>dodge, get hit despite being nowhere near his weapon
>my weapon breaks because durability is shit in this game
>he does a thrust
>dodge to his side but then suddenly appear on the end of his blade and in the air
"y-you just need to git gud!"
>>321496686
>>321496514
i thought the complaining about more than one enemy was a meme, jesus dude, how do you beat any video game? did you have a nervous breakdown when all those hollows climbed over the railings in dark souls?
>>321479971
I had the same problem. I was getting my ass kicked hard. It's not actually that hard. You just need to learn when to guard, and their attack patterns.
It's just about learning.
Some classes are easier than others too. Knight and Warrior should be a first time player's first choice. Un-equip some items on Knight so they get mid-roll and replace them with lighter items.
>>321496281
I stop myself from leveling at SL125 in DaS2 and level 100 in DaS1. Anything past that just seems a waste of souls.
>Except for my level 225 achievement machine I made because to get all spells you need to beat the entire game up to NG+3
>tfw Dark Lurker on NG+2 and bonfire intensity of 15 because I was farming the area and completely forgot the bonfire ascetic affects the boss too.
>>321496686
You should get Bloodborne anyway because it's actually a good game and also play Dark Souls 1.
>>321496815
I've already played Dark Souls 1 and thought it was great. Dark Souls 2 has definitely been a step down and at the point I'm kinda forcing myself to finish it at this point.
>>321496714
How does that prove me wrong? Even if the game would be bad, you still weren't able to adapt to its systems, making you trash at video games.
>>321496714
>except that's wrong
>here's an opinion from someone who agrees with me as proofThere is some pretty shitty enemy placement in Dark Souls 2, sure, but it doesn't make the game particularly hard. The only zone that's even remotely challenging is Dragon Shrine. Oh and that fucking blizzard zone in the DLC with endless thunderhorses but fuck that zone, we don't talk about it.
>>321496859
>Subject is artificial difficulty
>Talking about enemy placement and bad boss design isn't on the subject
Anon, please.
>>321496967
>at the point I'm kinda forcing myself to finish it at this point.
I need to go to bed.
>>321496425
It's just a boring way to play the game
>>321496768
yea i don't even parry, never understood that either.
i dont like ds2 nearly as much as 1 but pursuer in scholar is fun to fight, and im glad he pursues so much.
grab attack hitboxes, imperfects teleporting slightly before attacking etc tho...
why is /v/ so stupid
>>321496878
Then how come people can beat the hardest boss fight in the game at NG+7 SL1 with a broken ladle? Sorry but yes, git gud. Most people can beat the game without many problems and apparently you can't.
>>321497057
Except it's not a way to play the game. It's an attack. You don't call jump attacks a "way to play the game", do you?
>>321497012
>you're trash at video games if the game is poorly designed
Adding more enemies or gimping the player more is not difficult. It's lazy and tedious. There's nothing to "adapt" to. It's not as if they just changed the structure of the game like they did with Bloodborne, they just go out of their way to make it more frustrating on the player because "THIS GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE HARD RIGHT? ISN'T THAT THE ONLY REASON ANYONE GETS THESE GAMES???"
Fuck off. I bet you think you're hot shit because you spent 40 hours of your life beating Superman 64.
At least in DaS2 you can go full retard starship and go into each boss with 4 people and just gangbang their tits off. Watching pursuer stagger from poise breaking is hilarious.
>>321497212
Challenge is entertaining.
Exploiting a weakness undermines challenge.
I'd rather gimp myself like not parrying Gwyn and have a glorious fucking fight instead.
>>321497019
>mfw the faggots on the steam forums tell me I'm 'complaining' for disliking that blizzard area
It's just such a nasty gimmick to me. Blizzard stops for 5 seconds, blizzard goes for 30 seconds, here's a thunderhorse. Or two.
I can't say I find it fun, really, but in typical fashion they told me to 'get good' despite beating it on my first try.
>>321497254
I didn't even feel like Dark Souls 2 was harder than Dark Souls. I could give you that it felt more tedious in some areas, and was a worse game overall, but I don't know that any of that relates to difficulty, and if difficulty was the thing that made you drop it, maybe you're just shit at the game.
>>321497198
japs on youtube don't count because they're inhuman and can beat flamelurker barehanded because they do absolutely nothing but play the same game for several months without breaks
>>321496281
I thought you were done with DS2, Phil?
>>321497212
Bad analogy. Nobody exclusively does jump attacks, in the way some people almost exclusively do backstabs.
I've love to see that though, braindead jump attack spammers, comparable to backstab "enthusiasts" (for lack of a better term). Hell, it may even be more viable than backstab fishing.
>>321496281
You should be good enough at the game by then, didn't even die on some dlcs.
>>321497427
I hope DSP goes back to Old Hunters
I think he could beat Ludwig if he just went back to the main game and beat most of it so he'd be at a more reasonable point to tackle the DLC on NG+
>>321497358
Ok. Whatever you like. I enjoy challenge as well, did a whip run of DaS and a naked fists run of DaS2. But I don't go shitting on viable weapons because I enjoyed playing with terrible ones the way so many people seem to do with backstabs. It's like you're refusing to use backstabs just so you can brag about it and act superior.
>>321497380
I fucking hated the blizzard area and lol2kat.
...But the loyce GS....It was all worth it.
>>321497537
You know very well that won't happen.
>>321497254
>they just go out of their way to make it more frustrating on the player
I think the only moment where I was frustrated in the entirety of DaS2 was in Frigid Outskirts. Outside of that, there is literally no reason to get frustrated with the encounters of the game unless you refuse to adapt.
>>321497358
I'd rather have a glorious Gwyn fight too. But such a thing doesn't exist. He's a hollow. He's meant to be a pushover. Even without parrying him I still killed him in less than a minute on my first try.
>>321497682
loyce great sword is so sexy
best looking weapons right nex t tofume sword
>>321497713
He will if Patreon wants him to.
>>321496281
>Those two faggots on the bridge
>The entirety of the temple. Poison, casters, those fucking ghosts
>The imperfects
>ANOTHER god damn boss that summons additional enemies
Playing as a regular hero with medium armor and a straight sword has to be the hardest way.
Fuck magic and ultra greatswords. I want to be the hero from the cinematics, because I feel that's the way the game is supposed to be played.
>>321497713
Game Grumps just summoned Valtr and the Madara Brother for him on NG+ and they beat him first try with them. DSP just had to summon those particular guys to win.
>>321497464
>Bad analogy. Nobody exclusively does jump attacks, in the way some people almost exclusively do backstabs.
There are people who only R1 spam, or parry fish, or spam magic, to the same extent that you see people abuse backstabs.I'm a jump attack spammer, it has ridiculously good tracking in DaS2 and I still use it a lot even in BB.The backstab isn't an inherently shitty strategy for no-skill scrubs, it only becomes that if it's the only thing you ever do.
>>321497808
>Playing as a regular hero with medium armor and a straight sword has to be the hardest way.
You're in luck because the mobs in the DLCs have crazy magic resistance.
>>321497782
Only if it reaches his goal. But he's been losing viewers and payers last time I checked, so he'll just continue as he do now.
>>321497353
I hope there's a way to do proper co-op in DaS3 with 3 other summons. I want to do a DnD style party with a warrior with a shield, a rogue with high counter damage, a magic user and a cleric healer.
>>321497839
That would require him to go to the woods to join the League and he's not gonna redo that area.
He ended up only summoning that one useless bitch who kept dying.
Valtr is the best at Ludwig and can tank some serious hits from the guy.
>Play Dark Souls 2
>Die all the fucking time
>Start picking monsters off with a bow
>Stop dying but also stop having any fun
Also why am I not getting nearly any invasions at all? I have the Guardian ring too but I haven't been summoned even once.
What's the average soul memory range for endgameish content?
>>321498265
what ever your souls memory is after playing most the game without any hardcore grinding
also dont do that bow shit, people did that garbage in demon souls as well, it ruins the game
>>321498215
Considering you have to beat Vicar Amelia to go to the Forbidden Woods, it's not even 10 minutes sprinting from Vicar to the Woods and to the Elevator.
>>321493552
Jesus fuck you are mad. Calm down.
The entire point of the game is trial and error, that's why everyone here is giving you shit about not knowing to backstab. The game is built on the idea of dying and trying a different approach, and you're expected to die when you're trying shit out. Calm the hell down. Stop quitting when you get frustrated and just play the game.
>>321498265
>Also why am I not getting nearly any invasions at all? I have the Guardian ring too but I haven't been summoned even once.
Are you human?
Personally, I did a co-op build/run once and I got summoned for invasions via the Guardian Ring like 5-6 times from start to Earthen Peak.
>>321479971
>just got dark souls
>go up and get killed by taurus demon
>go down get killed by exploding head thing
>go other down get killed by unhittable ghosts
help
>>321498643
taurus demon was the right direction actually
>>321498637
Yeah, I'm human. Is Scholar of the First Sin on PC just so barren? Or is the action focused to a few zones?
I noticed a peak in activity at the Iron Keep.
>>321498797
It's pretty active on PC, but that depends on your SM.
>>321498643
>mfw new londo ruins
>>321498643
Keep trying Taurus Demon he's actually easy as fuck.
Just lunge attack him at the beginning, lure him away from the ladder, sprint back to the ladder and climb up, lunge attack again, rinse and repeat until he's dead.
>>321498643
Get a 100% shield, block every attack of Taurus Demon and when he pushes you back with his strikes, do a forward jump attack. Rinse and repeat. Get free souls.
what the fuck happened to this game i thought the "better version" was supposed to make things better, all they did was add more enemies and fucking dragons in spots
>>321499697
do you play on a literal fucking toaster?
>>321499726
yes
>>321499850
how the fuck can you expect the game to look better when you have a dog shit computer?
>>321499227
>>321499021
tips for good early weapons, I am going for a basic melee build. I like swords
>>321499329
>Get a 100% shield
how do I check which ones do this?
pic is current stats, did I fuck up?
>>321500053
just stick with your starter weapon until you find something you like then upgrade that.
>>321500053
dont level resistance, potherwise your fine. pro tip, endurance is the most broken thing in dark souls right next to the online
>>321500053
MORE ENDURANCE
>>321500053
>how do I check which ones do this?
Just check a shield in a shop or in your inventory and press X to toggle display. There should be something like pic related (not my picture) to look at.
>>321499892
but dark souls 2 looks average at best without mods, also what the fuck do graphics have to do with changing spawns and adding more bullshit one of the biggest issues with ds2 was the cluster fuck of enemies in every god damn room but fuck me i didnt think they could make it worse
What are the best challenge runs to try?
I'm not interested in making the game hard to point of being boring (so no "straight sword hilt only" run), but I can comfortably beat the game at SL1 with no armor or shield.
Bow only looks fun, anyone tried it?
>>321500449
>cluster fuck of enemies in every god damn room
please, stop with this nonsense garbage meme. thats not even a problem even if it was true. i mean really dude, did you bitch like this with all the hollows in the first area of dark souls where you meet the dragon? did you cry like a girl in the area with all the stone giants and treants? just stop.
>>321500449
For the most part SotFS is better in terms of enemy placement, or at least roughly the same.
For some reason they just put a lot more enemies in Heide's Tower of Flame specifically (though the knights are passive up to a point), and a few more in the Forest of Fallen Giants, so the difficulty winds up being even more front-loaded than usual.
>>321500392
thanks
>>321500120
you can upgrade weapons?
>>321500167
So I am good just putting points in vitality, endurance, strength, and dex? others not important for melee?
>>321500726
Yes later you'll find a blacksmith that will upgrade your gear.
And jesus fuck go get DSfix right now.
>>321500726
Resistance becomes a majorly important late game stat, it's best to stock up early if you can.
>accidentaly read about Solaire's storyline
>what the hell, might as well save my nigga
>read up how to do it
>it's stupid as fuck
Can I justhit him once, then rush past him, kill the bugs and climb on top of Undead Parish to pay the priest, or is this a risky method ? Should I simply join the lady spider's covenant ? I don't have nearly 30 humanities and I don't feel like grinding.
>>321500803
don't listen to this guy
>>321493251
Even so, Backstabs are so easy to do it's hard to believe you didn't accidently do it a few times, then realise "woah, that was effective, I'll do it again".
>>321500726
resistance literally does nothing but raise defense by a point, which every other stat levels as well lol its useless.
if you going pure melee build is 40 in vitality, 40 in endurance, 30-36 in strength, and 40 in dex. and yes, those are all you need to level
Which weapon did you finish your first run with? BKS was mine.
>>321500818
It doesn't work like that, the idea is that you have to kill the Sunlight Maggot before he goes hollow, and the only way to do that is to join the Chaos Servants. Although if I recall correctly it's possible to have an attack clip through the door and kill the bug somehow.
Once he's already hollow killing the bugs does jack shit, and he goes hollow once you get into Lost Izalith proper.
>>321500818
>>321501069
apparently if you go to far towards lost izalith you can risk having solaire hollwo.
bring a bow
>>321501069
Guess I'll just store up humanities then, thanks.
>>321498643
>mfw spent my first hour at firelink trying to get through the graveyard
>>321501050
It was either the Great Club or the Large Club. I don't remember.
>get through the hell that is blighttown
>get to quelaag's domain
>hit one of the goober toober servant snake fucks
>he explodes and they gangbang me
>respawn
>run past them
>quelaag's cutscene
>go fap
>come back and kill her
>ring the bell
>go down, find her sister
>kill the snivelling fuck of a servant
>no idea what the fuck covenants are
>form a covenant with her and offer a humanity cuz why not
still have no idea what i did
>>321500973
thanks
>>321500785
this does look better
>>321501242
It took me a few tries buy skelingtons were not too hard since they fall apart
>>321501208
Just do the DLC before you go to the Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith. The Humanity Phantoms in the Chasm of the Abyss (final area of the DLC) have an extremely high drop rate for Humanity/Twin Humanity. You can farm up 30 there in like ten minutes or less.
Alternatively you can kill that big group of rats in the Depths over and over again, although that's not quite as fast.
>>321501050
great axe. my character just wore the brigand leggings and brigand hood the entire game
Undead Parish was difficult
Blightown was not
At least from a first time perspective, I can't be the only one who thought this.
>>321501829
i thought the reverse famalam
or at least i like undead parish and hated blighttown. that could just be because of their designs. blighttown is repulsive
>>321501050
I ended up going through the game with the base scimitar just because my friend kept bitching at me to upgrade it to Furysword everytime we talked.
>>321482729
what you want to do is run a little onto the bridge to bait the dragon out then run back behind the arch and wait for the fire to pass by. when he perches at the other side of the bridge make a break for the stairs.
>>321485808
>using a shield
>>321501934
i just hated blight town because it had 12 fps and the area wasnt interesting anyways
>>321502320
pretty much anyone whos playing dork soles for the first time is going to use a shield, and its not like refusing to use a shield makes you special, it just makes you an easy win for bow users.
