>two songs
>no English VA
>no extra trophies
Was SE stingy, Nintendo cheap, or was he maybe just pushed out too soon?
I 100% blame SE.
Cloud himself and the stage clearly both had a lot of attention put into them. I'm sure there would be 15 songs and 10 trophies if Nintendo was allowed to have them.
>>321458023
SE, compare the Final Fantasy content to Bayonetta content
>Caring about Eng VAs
wow so pleb.
>>321458023
Supposedly they couldn't get his English VA because union bullshit.
>>321458023
Nintendo hates rpgs
>>321458261
Nintendo basically owns Bayonetta, they're free to do with her whatever they want.
>>321458375
>union bullshit.
Does he even do anything but Cloud?
>No English VA
This is a good thing. It should be the standard.
>>321458340
Not everybody's an autistic weaboo who likes hearing estrogen-filled Jap voices.
>>321458431
I think that was his point.
>>321458431
*With the permission of SEGA
>>321458494
Where do you think you are dot jaypeg
>>321458494
But you enjoy weaboo characters?
>>321458340
>>321458493
weeaboos please leave. Listening to Japanese speakers voice cartoons will not make you Japanese.
>>321458375
He was all good to do the Remake trailer though.
>>321458023
Forget that and lets instead hate on his unpunshable up smash, forward smash and dash attack
>>321458693
his forward smash is slow to start
just be faster to react
>>321458580
A videogames board.
Not an anime with the bare minimum of user control to give the viewer the illusion it's a game and not a VN or tv show.
>>321458340
It's pretty surprising to me because Cloud's english voice actor isn't that big named compared to most
>>321458529
I think Sega has bigger worries than to disallow someone to use half of an IP.
Probably a combination of SE asking more money for more stuff and Nintendo not willing to pay for it.
>>321458819
>A videogames board.
On an anime site
>>321458667
This is 4chan you stupid fuck, you are the one who should leave.
>>321458819
So? Its still a Japanese game, I hate you stupid fucking hafu weebs.
>>321458689
Then presumably the Remake is a union job.
Smash wasn't.
>>321458340
his japanese voice sucks
>>321458845
Neither is Shulk's.
>>321459003
Maybe you should just fuck off to /a/
This isn't an anime board, retard
>>321458819
>/v/
>A videogames board.
Could've fooled me. I thought it was the "regurgitate stupid jokes that got too old even for /b/" board.
>>321459081
I like Sakurai when he's voicing homo characters
>>321459307
Nah I'll just keep both boards open like I always do, maybe you should fuck off to plebbit.
>>321458431
Is Moon River in the Bayo stage? It's a public domain song, right?
>>321458206
Nigger Nintendo made the content and skimped out
The fact that SE even gave them Cloud and Midgar already shows SE was fully supportive of what Nintendo wanted to do with it
Fucking Nintendo apologist cunt
>>321459816
>SE
>Supportive
>Not just advertising Remake in the cheapest way possible
That is the fact of the matter.
>>321458905
I think you're missing the point. Sega maintains the license because it's free money to them.
>>321458023
>>no English VA
This is a plus
>>321459081
I quite like his nip VA in some other roles but I really don't like him as Cloud. He would probably be better fit for Sephiroth.
>>321459624
Pretty sure fly me to the moon and moon river aren't in at all, and mysterious destiny and tomorrow is mine are instrumental remixes.
>>321460190
He's a better fit for Vincent than Sephiroth
>>321460449
Yeah you are probably right about that.
I don't mind the Jap VA but I wonder if I would hear Burton say "LIMITS ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN" every 30 seconds if they had gotten him
I'M NOT BANNED
WEW LADS
>>321458845
>>321459081
He's English VA is just terrible. Especially in that screaming scene at the end of CC
>>321458023
Half assed poster too
>>321459495
or we tolerate each other on the same board and accept the fact that there are people with different opinions in the world.
>>321461917
Did Nomura drew this?
>>321459014
how is Cloud's shitty voice actor part of the union but Lucina's good voice actor isn't
>>321462194
Yep
>>321461917
>Draw us a Smash Bros poster Nomura
>Alright. Cloud fighting Link good?
>You need to add some more Nomura
>Uhhh another Cloud fighting Donkey Kong
>We need more characters Nomura
>Fuck
>I'll just draw Mario, Kirby and G&W and call it a day
>>321461917
Nomura is a really busy guy as of late with him directing Square Enix's biggest games so i can forgive the lack of details.
>>321462194
Yeah he did.
>>321458023
>>321458206
the midgar stage also has a couple of avatars. probably had to negotiate for all of them one at a time.
>>321461917
>no background
>2 clouds
>weird DK feet
>easiest characters to draw: G&W &Kirby
SE obviously, compare it to what bayonetta got
>>321459816
>Nigger Nintendo made the content and skimped out
It's not up to them how far they can take another company's property. Compare Cloud to Bayoneta.
>>321461917
its funny that link and clouds faces are so insanely similar to each other; you could just swap their hairstyle and clothes and they would look exactly the same just with a different expression.
are japanese lazy artists?
>>321462319
>>Draw us a Smash Bros poster Nomura
>>Alright. Cloud fighting Link good?
>>You need to add some more Nomura
>>Uhhh another Cloud fighting Donkey Kong
>>We need more characters Nomura
>I'm Tetsuya Nomura, I don't have the time to spend weeks drawing a picture like whoever Bayonetta's unemployed main artist is
>yes sir Mr. Nomura thank you for talking to us Mr. Nomura
>>321461917
I'm more okay with this because Nomura's a busy dude
At least it has Cloud vs Link
how many songs and VAs does bayonetta have? and where's my tifa trophy with rotating action?
>>321462270
>>321462426
Wow, he drew Cloud with muscular body. I fucking like that,
But yeah, seen better things drew by him
Nomura is too busy making Cloud skinny amirite
The Cloud DLC did feel like a lack of effort on Squares Part
>No Tifa Assist Trophy
>No Electric De Chocobo or JENOVA or One Winged Angel.
>No Alternate Cloud in a Dress costume.
>>321459624
Let's Hit The Climax!
Theme Of Bayonetta - Mysterious Destiny (Instrumental)
Tomorrow Is Mine (Bayonetta 2 Theme) (Instrumental)
One Of A Kind
Riders Of The Light
Red & Black
After Burner (∞ Climax Mix)
Friendship
Let's Dance, Boys!
The Legend Of Aesir
Time For The Climax!
So no Moon River or Fly Me To The Town
>>321463120
>Man who people call skinny-ass is skinny
Fucking Squeenix stop butchering my childhood imaginations!
>>321463120
Yeah, why can't he be totally ripped like his original design?
>>321463276
>no moon river or fly me to the moon
but....why
>>321463276
>Fly Me To The Town
It's Fly Me To The Moon you silly billy.
Thanks for the track list.
>>321463163
Street Fighter didn't get an assist
>>321461917
>>321463120
Cloud's arms on both pictures. Da Fuck Nomura?
>>321463702
wopz
>>321463637
dunno
Kinda disappointed there's no Battle for the Umbra Throne
>>321463795
Street Fighter also only had like 4 songs for Suzaku Castle.
>>321458023
>caring about anything beyond the character being in
Literally how can you blame either company for anything
This is already godsend, what the fuck else do you want
Don't tell me you actually fucking care about trophies. And ffvii didn't have shit for memorable music
>>321463628
but it's not like his original design, the proportions are wrong, making him look even skinnier
>>321461917
Platinum's was so much better.
>>321460438
I don't get this, how could they not include the most iconic songs of both games?
The mixes they did of those songs are amazing, and they would be great in smash
>let them use Opening - Bombing Mission and Electric de Chocobo in trailers
>not in the game though
Nah, fuck Square
>>321463120
Isn't cloud supposed to be fucked up on Mako poisoning at the beginning of FFVII? Wouldn't it be weird if he was buff?
>>321463997
It's like new JoJo characters, skinny arms and weird shoulders ruining whole anatomy and making character looks skinny as fuck.
>>321464154
I never knew bare backs could be so lewd. Unf.
>>321458494
Aren't Jap voices usually really deep?
To be fair, Electric De Chocobo might have been too close for the surfaris's Wipeout for the Lawyers.
>>321464213
Yeah that actually commented on it basically saying they deliberately made him look "sickly".
>>321463802
There's speculation that Cloud's condition and physique will improve over the course of the game as he recovers from the 5 years of experimentation he'd been subject to prior to the beginning of the game.
This old concept art drawn by Nomura shows 3 variations of Cloud which appear to be Cloud in his youth during flashbacks, Cloud as he appears in most artwork related to the original game and the third being how he would appear by the end of it having completely recovered and become a hero.
>>321464154
>Villager on the side of Inferno.
>>321462591
A lot of artists draw sameface, but also most Japs look the same.
>>321458023
Nintendo only put Cloud in as a deal to get Square-Enix to localize Dragon Quest.
>>321464495
I've heard about that possibility before. But try to not get my hopes too high.
>>321464394
The villians are
Well at least Cloud is fun to play as.
>No Tifa Trophy.
>>321461917
Wow. Nomura just didn't try here.
>>321464180
Copyright issues my man. It's a bummer, but the DLC would probably cost twice as much if they had to pay royalties to the singer and rights holders.
>>321463276
>The Legend of Aesir
>no You May Call Me Father
>no Lumen Sage & Fortitudo
>no The Heavies
Square did it.
Cloud's cool as a concept, but when actually executed, he didn't end up that great of a character, mid-tier at best and Ike just still feels more fun.
>>321458431
Nigga, Bayo's still SEGA property.
Look at how much SEGA appears in the credits, it's like they actually did something.
>>321458023
Squeenix being cunts. Sakurai likely had to suck the dicks of every employee at SE HQ for the Geno costume.
>>321468357
>Sakurai likely had to suck the dicks of every employee at SE HQ for the Geno costume.
He probably had to, to find one who knew who Geno was.
>>321466209
I really like how Cloud plays, the Limit Break gimmick is fun to use and abuse.
>>321463637
>>321463702
>>321463276
Those songs are remixes are of licensed songs, Nintendo would've had to pay extra money for that.
>>321464786
What basis do people have for this claim?
I don't see how Nintendo would benefit from localizing the DQ games.
>>321458023
>no English VA
That's a good thing. Its gonna be bad enough when the remake comes out and all the old FFVII fans are bitching about his voice while all the new fans are defending it.
>>321472361
>new fans
Hes had that voice for like a decade.
