>Fallout has established that T-51 was the most advanced and strongest power armor before the war and only saw a few months of service before the bombs dropped
>Fallout 4 comes around and retcons that and says T-60 was the most recent model before the bombs dropped and was more advanced than T-51
This makes me mad.
>>321456209
lol who gives a shit about lore?
>T-51 armor is still harder to find than T-60
>>321456209
Don't worry when fallout 5 comes out you can complain about the T-71 armor
>>321456330
This, get a life you nerd.
>cats aren't extinct in fo4
>>321456465
Fuck off Todd
>Writers too stupid to know these things
>H-haha it's all fiction guys! A f-fantasy world!
Bethesda never once gave a shit about fallout. They bought the IP on a whim and thought " hey we can make this into morrowind with guns.
All Todd is is a marketer. Hes the worst thing to happen to bethesda, its like a tumblr comic artists trying to compete with actual artists of talent, and somehow fucking wins.
>>321456209
>caring about ret cons in le perpetual 1950's nuked world where radiation is magic
Set your care to games that deserve it.
>Fallout 3 nuka cola bottles are shaped like a normal coke bottle
>Fallout 4 comes along and adds some wing looking things at the base
why are people ok with this??
>>321457216
bethesda can do anything and their religious nuts kill anyone who disagrees
>>321456987
Like Dork Souls and Dorf Fort?
>pre-war vertibird
>>321457216
>Nuka Cola
>shaped like a rocket
>not a nuke
T-60 looks like garbage and there's no reason for it to exist.
Of all the shit to wax nostalgic over, why did it have to be the 'iconic' designs of Fallout 3? Some of the stuff that was worth bringing over like the US and Chinese assault rifles didn't even make the cut in any form except signage and cut assets.
Didn't even have the decency to save some of the only good concepts from the cutting room floor either.
>>321457776
Vertibirds were pre-war, though.
>game is set in the future
>it's not trans* or queer inclusive
Uh bethestards?
>>321456209
T-45 looks cooler to plebs, plus it's Beths design so of course they done that shit with the T-60.
My pleb friend found the T-51 in FO3 and said it looked shit and he hated the real Advance Power Armor design in NV compared to 3'sAlthough he now likes T-51 and X-01 because of 4
I don't really see an issue in this you guys. You are overreacting about meaningless lore established by the same talentless hacks who wrote Fallout 2.
>>321457931
Thanks to Fallout 4 they are. Vertibirds were created by the Enclave.
>>321458136
FIX THE BUGS
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>>321457931
It was in prototype phase when the great war happened, yet somehow they're in full military service.
>>321458370
Verti-Birds were actually a Pre-War Invention, it just never got into deployment. The Enclave just happened to have the blueprints and manufacturing capabilities to make a lot of them.
>>321456209
bethesda could of easily explained this by just saying that the t60 just went into production, however the factorys producing it were only in boston this wouldnt explain how the bos have it however) , or they could of said that the capital wasteland chapter began to produce its own power armour. however bethesda just did fuck all and did the laziest retcon possible
>Kellogg is from NCR
The only reason BoS was able to cross the American hellscape was by flying over it. It's all but impossible by foot.
>>321456740
>taking shit posters seriously
Kill yourself.
>>321456209
The original games aren't canon anymore
>>321456987
its not about realism its about CONSISTENCY
do you get more armor or do I have to go back to the museum where I left the first one?
I just started playing now. Can I just completely ignore the main story and still get 90% of the game done like in other Betherda games? Can I have adventures that have nothing to do with "muh son"?
>>321460083
Yes
>>321460003
theres more you find in some places.
i never used the armor from the museum again, i just stole one from the brotherhood and then killed everyone.
>>321459353
No, it's not. The "500 Foot Deathwall of Storms" isnt all true. Its entirely possible to cross the midwest because caravans do it all the time.
Made this
/v/ Fallout 3 or New Vegas?
thoughts?
>>321461943
>fast food or fine cuisine?
What do you think?
>>321461943
>>321462025
So New Vegas? Honestly i don't know, that's why i'm asking
>>321459665
Reference to a tweet someone from Bugthesda made in response to the Jet mistake in a story from one of the consoles in Fallout 4.
>>321462015
Why aren't you working for Bethesda m80
>>321457831
Nuclear Rocket you fucking retard.
FICTION is something that's made up. Because of this, PEOPLE CAN CHANGE IT.
>>321457216
I think they probably did it for copyright issues or something. I think they began selling soft drinks through third parties and that could make them at odds with coca-cola.
>>321462109
Yes, NV.
>>321460297
Okay thank you, I want to just kill Maxson for his jacket, will the brotherhood hate me after?
>>321462109
Fallout 3 if you want a silly nonsensical game set in the fallout universe and NV if you want an actual fallout game that also has IMO much better gameplay and stat systems.
>>321462497
>an actual fallout game
The fact it's also a FPS with rpg elements disqualifies it from being "an actual fallout game". Fuck off obsidrone.
>T-51 looks cooler than T-60
Fuck you Bethesda.
>>321459823
what is canon
>>321462015
Or how about leave power armor the way it is?
Advanced Power Armor protecting the least next to Raider? Was your first Fallout game Fallout 3?
>>321462175
>NUCLEAR
>ROCKETS
pftttt
>>321459823
Which is why they reference them all the time right
T-51 is ugly.
Deal with it, nerds.
t's 3 a.m. in the morning, put my key in the door
Bodies laying all over the floor and
I don't remember how they got there
But I guess I must'a killed 'em, killed 'em
>being so autistic that you know the different armor model numbers and which existed when in the past before the fucking games even take place
Who the fuck cares? They did much worse shit to the lore than adding 9.
>obsidiNEETs will forever be salty and furious their shitty neckneard cringe niche RPG shit was cucked from them by the dreaded normies
Fallout is the new GTA
>>321456209
Why is the ti-93 better and more recent than the ti-95?
Check mate, faggot.
>>321462996
rly?
>>321464212
>>321463947
>>321463654
Shouldnt you normies be playing Battlefield?
>>321463510
all that tech could make it quirky. More micro computers and gadgets that can go haywire.
>>321456397
guess Grandma Todd played you
>>321464606
Jesus, what was Bethesda thinking?
>Just make the new armor T-45 but fatter and with shitty pauldrons
>>321464606
>It's just an over-designed 45d
>>321463569
>in a world where cars run on nuclear power
Fart more, reddit.
>>321456470
>implying people didn't bring/smuggle them into vaults
>>321464985
>Somehow, everyone has a nuclear-powered $200,000 dollar car
>>321465189
Tell Bethesda, not me.
>>321462476
what the fuck do you think?
>>321464606
Yeah really
>>321457216
I actually liked that. Thought it was neat
cut and I slash, slice and gash
Last night was a blast, I can't quite remember when I had that
Much fun off a half pint of the Jack
My last Vic and a half, a fleshlight of Kim Kardashian's ass
I remember the first time I dismembered a family member
December, I think it was: I was having drinks with my cousin
I wrapped him in Christmas lights, pushed him into the stinkin' tub
Cut him up into pieces and just when I went to drink his blood
I thought I oughta drink his bath water, that oughta be fun
That's when my days of serial murder manslaughter begun
The sight of blood excites me; that might be an artery, son
Your bloodcurdling screams just don't seem to bother me none
It's 3 a.m. and here I come, so you should probably run
A secret passageway around here, man, there's gotta be one
Oh no, there's probably none, he can scream all that he wants
Top of his lungs, but ain't no stopping me from chopping him up-up
>>321465036
Look man, I like the idea of people smuggling car into vaults, but Covenant and a small trader outpost has cats and they don't explain where they came from.
>Muh lore!!
>in a setting where people use bottle caps as money for no reason
>>321462476
>this post
the fo4 audience everybody
dumb fucking millennials
>>321465189
>everyone
Source pls
The only pre-war town we see is sanctuary, and everyone seems pretty well off.
>>321465481
>no reason
>>321465481
>for no reason
Pete Hines pls. They were used by the Hub in California to represent water which was a valuable resource post-war. Bethesda just kept them around cuz lol the other games did it
But go ahead and keep sucking Todd's flaccid dick, I'm sure he'll shit out yet another mediocre open world daddy issues simulator in another 4-5 years that you'll be all over like flies on a pile of shit.
>>321465664
Unless you were born in the 70s, you're also a millennial.
Grow up and get over the 'us vs them' mentality.
>>321462476
Yes but it really doesn't make the slightest difference.
>>321465785
I hate how they made caps the currency despite there being a specific reason for it in Fallout 1 and how they were irrelevant in Fallout 2 where NCR money replaced it.
>X-01 is still the best
>>321457216
Also the robots, enemies and nearly everything, what is your point?
>>321465470
>cat leaves vault
>ends up in covenant
>>321466287
Robots look much better in Fallout 4 though.
Shooting off a Protectron's head in Fallout 3 and New Vegas looked like shit.
I remember reading about something along the lines of BoS improving the power armor
>>321457216
I attribute most small changes like that to the change in art style rather than it having any in-world explanation. Same deal with the vault suits and what not.
>>321464606
T-51 looks like 0079 gundam
T-60 looks like OO
Take that as you will.
>>321465785
They can "represent" whatever they want, but as a currency it is absolute shit. It is not easily portable, not easily divisible, and very easily counterfeitable. There is no intrinsic value in a bottle cap, so in a time when people's confidence is at the absolute minimum, there should never have been a reason for it to have been adopted. Bottle caps are a retarded currency.
>>321456470
Why would they be? Even Fo2 had them
>>321462497
Fallout 3 is just flatout boring and New Vegas has the most boring fucking setting you could possibly imagine.
I live in Mojave, and the only thing that make this shit hole more desolate and boring is a nuclear fallout.
the fucking DESERT is NEVER a good idea for a game setting. Fuck 3 and NV
>>321466505
But T60 was used in the pre-War tutorial
>>321462175
A nuclear-powered rocket? That's retarded
>>321462294
fiction only has value if it's consistent, otherwise it's more or less the equivalent of some 5 year old blabbering about their super powers. if you don't understand this i feel sorry for you
>>321466570
No, it's not easily counterfeit-able.
Jesus fuck, your first game was FO3, wasnt it?
>>321466525
I like the way T-60 looks but it really just is T-45 which I didn't notice. Oh well.
>>321466684
Welcome to the Fallout universe where some things that were nuclear powered shouldn't have been. Remember, after WWII they fell head first into everything atom related.
>>321466761
No, I grew up playing Fallout. No where in the previous games does it bring up counterfeiting, but bottle caps are piss easy to make.
>>321466942
There was an entire questline dedicated to just that in New Vegas.
>>321466684
Thermonuclear missile?
>>321466942
You're a fucking liar, in Fallout 2 and NV they mention it's impossible to counterfeit caps.
>>321467026
Thermonuclear fission is not nuclear power
>>321466690
Fiction only has value if it's ENTERTAINING, autism speaks.
>>321467018
I'm well aware. They can pull out all the bullshit reasons they want, but it doesn't change the fact that bottlecaps are still very easily counterfeitable and a shit currency for all the other reasons I listed as well.
>>321467101
You're an idiot.
>>321466808
Yeah I like it too. The point I was making was basically they're the same thing only with more details.
Which as a gunpla crack head I love.
>>321467186
>youre le idiot xD
Back to reddit.
>>321467101
That's not true. There was a bottle cap press in the Sunset Sarsaparilla headquarters that was being used to accurately counterfeit caps. They caught on to it because traders started paying in caps that looked way too new.
>>321462127
i got you
>>321466631
spoiler: most of the fucking fallout games take place in the fucking desert
just because you live like a sandnigger doesn't mean you can't make a good game taking place in a desert
>>321467186
>still very easily counterfeitable
Good luck with doing that in the post-apocalyptic world of Fallout.
I don't know what your problem is or how you can be so oblivious.
Just, well, read the wiki: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Bottle_cap
>>321467279
>a game says a trivially easy process is impossible, it must be true!
ITT: People still crying the same saline fluid they have for a decade.
How far down do the salt pits go? Let's find out together.
>>321464606
putting aside the notion that the idea of power armor is stupid and unrealistic, T-51 looks more realistic and improved. More round, smooth surfaces, less profile overall, more protection in groin and stomach and last but not least also provides better sight radius.
>>321467331
....name more than 1 Fallout game that took place inside the Mohave desert
>>321467148
well now I feel stupid. still has the word nuclear though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4
>>321467408
Dude, read >>321467367 and let your girlfriend get fucked by her boss some more.
>>321467479
He said desert generally senpai. 3 take place in deserts.
>>321467186
Let me copypaste it for you, you lazy fuck.
"In New California, the relative scarcity of bottle caps made them a perfect currency for Hub merchants to adopt in the 22nd century, leading to the nickname "Hubbucks" and "Hubscript." Backed by the value of water, the Hub merchants supported bottle caps because the technology to manufacture them and paint their surfaces had been mostly lost in the Great War, which limited any counterfeiting efforts. Secondly, there are a limited number of bottle caps, which preserve their value against inflation to some degree. For similar reasons the East Coast merchants also recognize bottle caps as a currency, although who backs them and guarantees their value is unknown."
>>321467479
The entirety of Fallout 1 took place in southern California which is literally nothing but a massive desert. The southeast part of the map on the way to Vegas is considered to be part of the Mojave in the real world.
>>321467367
What is the Sunset Sarsaparilla HQ a quest in NV sends you to destroy a cap making machine in that very fucking building. Hell, if Nuka Cola is anything like Coke they have production facilities (large and small) all over the place with cap making machines.
they could have just added an institute power armor or some shit instead of making a bestest pre war power armor
After nuclear fission, once the nucleus has split, where does it go?
Is it still half of an atom?
>>321462175
>>321463569
>>321466684
But it's okay when New Vegas did it, right?
>>321467757
Or at the very least said the T-60 was just heavily modified T-45 using reverse engineered Enclave tech or some shit.
>>321467823
The particles fly off in the form of alpha and beta radiation
>>321467367
>Good luck with doing that in the post-apocalyptic world of Fallout
Information on making bottle caps is everywhere. I've made bottle caps since I was young (my dad bottles his own beer as a hobby). Bottle caps are piss easy, any retard with some sheet metal and a hammer and some sheet metal sheers can pump out a dozen hand made ones in a minute. You could make a simple press by hand with salvaged material in few hours and speed up the process even more.
Seriously, there are YouTube videos all over the fucking place that show you how to make them. No doubt in the Fallout universe there would be books or holotapes containing the info fucking everywhere. I seriously want you to spend three minutes on YouTube watching how to do it and then come back and tell me that no one would be able to do it.
>>321456470
The fact that cats are extinct comes from Mr. House.
Its plausible that Mr. House doesnt know about single stray cats on the east coast, calm your autism,
>>321467297
He'd have sperged over the dinosaur footprint, the tin man and tardis in Fallout 2 if he was old enough
>>321467479
>Fallout 1
>Fallout 2
>Fallout NV
Literally every Fallout game that deals with NCR.
>>321467597
Saying it is true does not make it true. They may be scarce, but they are made out of the single most common element on the fucking planet. Any retard can make them with just a tiny bit of know-how.
>>321467823
it splits into different elements
>>321467823
The atom does not "split in half", it loses unstable parts until it reaches a stable form.
>>321467908
I don't remember the exact quest, but there's a bit in New Vegas that takes place within a bottling factory and there's flavour text about caravans checking for counterfeit caps and shit
>>321468076
An atom of an element just turns into another element?
>>321467870
Nuclear powered rockets are actually a thing, too
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_thermal_rocket
>enjoying the dogshit games that were fallout 1 and 2 because you're 14 and were in le wrong generation
>"fallout 3 has bugs THAT MEANS THE STORY IS BROKEN"
>mfw
>>321468069
>>321467908
How the FUCK are you not noticing the "and paint their surfaces".
Good luck painting a bottlecap with your hand colors and making it look legit, you babies.
>>321467823
The two halves are themselves neclei that can theoretically be split again. This is the idea behind a breeder reactor, where the waste nuclei from fission can then be split again.
>>321460083
No, your character will still sometimes have dialogue options referring to their son or spouse even in sidequests.
>>321468137
>checking for counterfeit caps and shit
Really? They are going to use their supernatural ability to tell shitty, 200 year old bottle caps from shitty recently made bottle caps?
200 years means they could be in literally any condition imaginable from any imaginable brand of soda. The idea that a common merchant could tell bottle caps apart is fucking retarded.
>>321468203
>tfw when you played Fallout 1 and 2 when you were 15
>in 2001
>>321467757
>>321467904
Or armour based on pre-war blueprints that never entered production. Explains the older appearance and the more advanced nature.
>>321467870
Did New Vegas have nuclear powered rockets, or rocket mounted nukes? These are two very different things.
>>321468046
You mean, every GOOD Fallout.
>>321468259
Have you seriously never painted anything in your life? Holy shit, anon, I'm beginning to think you might be literally retarded.
>>321468203
But the story in Fallout 3 IS broken.
>>321468203
10/10
>>321468467
The rockets you launch in NV are radio active so they are probably nuclear powered.
>>321468413
iirc, it wasn't perfect. The issue the raiders had was that the caps seemed too fresh and new and caravans were getting suspicious that they weren't scratched or w/e.
This thread
>fucking bethesda doing X
>im too stupid to recall that NV and 2 also did X
>its ok when 2 and NV do X, but bethesda lol amiriteguise?
The entire series has little inconsistencies, the real crime isnt that they added the t-60, its that they copy-pasted it from the t-45. I want me some megas xlr armor.
>>321468518
>you might be literally retarded.
Right back at you.
But I guess it's hard to admit you were wrong.
>>321468467
The quest where you shoot the ghouls off into space has you getting a radioactive isotope to fuel the rockets.
>>321458004
It fucking is. Shut the fuck up, faggot. Your fag shit is in there.
>>321462015
Raider PA should work like NCR T-45 in that its just like a knight's armor, not actually powered. T-60 and T-45 look identical, except for the chest parts. They should be similar. T-51 should always have the most armor and best performance, while the experimental Enclave armor should have the most modifications possible. The only reason the T-60 gets used is because the Brotherhood can't produce more suits of T-51 which is the superior armor, but has been used the most in past and therefore has less salvageable parts as time goes on.
>>321468192
Yes. Its a simplified understanding but basically each element can be thought of as being made of a bunch of smaller elements that have been bound together with an elastic band.
>>321468069
Youre fucking retarded and autistic. Kill yourself.
>>321468609
>not scratched enough
Holy fuck, dude, then just scratch it more. You think someone who has dedeicated even a second of brainpower to this issue hasn't considered this? Again, bottle caps are a trivial thing to make, and scratching it and making it look rusty would be even easier.
>>321468484
>tfwthisopinionistakenseriously
>>321463072
accepted part of the game. part of the core,and not some irrelevant spin off
Guys, you can TOTALLY paint this with your hands and make it look perfectly 100% original to trained eyes!
>>321468751
>he disagrees so he must be retarded
I've actually made bottle caps in real life. I have real, hands on experience in the matter. Can you say the same? Even if you can't, you can spend 3 minutes on Youtube and gain enough knowledge to understand why you are wrong. The fact that you remain willingly ignorant shows who the true retard is.
>>321456330
This.
How autistic you gotta be to give a shit about Fallout lore?
No one plays the games for the lore.
>>321467285
It was less counterfeiting and more just manufacturing new caps from a prewar bottle cap press
>>321468887
You must be retarded when it comes to artistic endeavors if those logos seem hard to you. There are middle schoolers out there that could replicate them. Obsidiots pls go
>>321468887
Those aren't even complicated designs, anon.
>>321469068
Good luck with that.
>>321468987
He's not disagreeing. He's factually incorrect.
>>321468643
Those things were repeatedly demonstrated to be the cause of various disasters, per Repconn HQ.
>>321468887
Go look at some cash, now get a magnifying glass out and look at it again. There is an ridiculous amount of detail that goes into paper money and that gets forged all the time. Those caps could be done with a child's paint set and a brush.
>>321469068
If you can paint those by hand, while making it look 100% authentic without the original paint or the help of a machine AND making it look 200 years old, I'd be fucking impressed.
>>321468987
YOUTUBE DOESN'T EXIST IN THE FALLOUT UNIVERSE YOU KEK.
You can't fucking counterfeit 200+ year old caps with work off paint.
>>321456330
-Todd Howard
>>321456330
This it's all about that sweet visceral Fallout gameplay.
>>321468887
Maybe if they said something like "the radioactive paint/alloy used in the production can be extracted and used as a fuel source in bulk" this would actually make sense since they currency itself has a value backed by something, they can easily be tested with a Geiger counter everyone seems to own and the formula/production method of the paint/alloy can simply be a lost in the war. This would also allow the kind of prices that we see in game as 1 cap won't have much raw material and won't be terribly valuable.
>>321469416
No, it doesn't. But libraries do. Computers do. The knowledge would be everywhere in the Fallout universe, just like it is in our own, because it is a trivially easy process.
>>321469360
>If you can paint those by hand
Why bother when stencils and functioning robots exist and every cap is expected to have some serious wear and tear?
![f391749_1446683110[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qadjgYe.jpg "f391749_1446683110[1].jpg")
>>321469182
>>321469360
You guys must have some low ass standards or you have no friends. I've met plenty of people that could do that, shit my cousin could freehand tattoo the damn things off just memory.
This is a random picture made by a fucking high schooler
>>321469226
So? Do Nuka Cola bottles have to be functional rockets?
That design, of the three finned cone, is pretty iconic in Fallout. Why wouldn't a company take advantage of it?
>>321468987
They have some notability when they are forged considering that there is a side quest where people send you to investigate a cap printing press.
>>321469732
What, no, I was saying the whole nuclear-powered rocket thing was lampshaded in-universe as being a bad idea.
>>321469416
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Pressing_Matters
If you can rig up a 200 year old drill press and forge a receiver for .50bmg then I doubt you'll have too hard of a time punching out sheet metal. Remember, this is fallout, there's no 9 to 5 job. If you've gotten yourself into making fake caps, you're probably under some crime boss. Therefore when you ain't shitting or sleeping, you're stamping out caps.
>>321469704
>posting your high school art class final submission as evidence in a debate about the viability of counterfeit coke caps in a fictional universe.
Have fun doing that.
>>321456209
I seriously don't see how this is an issue. It's an incredibly minor and petty complaint.
I mean really of all the problems FO4 has you choose to complain about THIS?
Do you suffer from some sort of mental disorder?
>>321457216
Get it. Nuka Cola. Nuke. Bombs. :DDD Its shaped like a bomb. :DDDDDDD
t. bethesda
hope normies get this
>>321469561
At you going to keep ignoring the fact that replicating the pain to seem worn off is virtually impossible?
This is a video game, not real life. Youre worthless skill in making bottle caps means nothing in a fictional universe full of literall retard farmers who don't know a thing about man in caps.
And have you seen how many booksand terminals are destroyed in the Fallout universe?
>>321469838
Bottle caps are made out of sheet metal. Sheet metal is fucking everywhere in the fallout universe. You could rip some off the side of your house and punch out a few hundred of the things and no one would be the wiser.
>>321469908
That has nothing to do with the rest of that chain
>>321469360
But there are machines and various professionals. Regardless, caps are discontinued by the time a major political body coalesces and efforts are made to stamp out counterfeiting in areas where they still have value.
>>321470029
Not him, but it actually does feel pretty petty on Behtesda's part even if it's not the biggest of deals.
Like, they probably designed a new version of the T-45 and realized that it was too different from the original, so they just called it the T-60 and pretended it was the MOST BEST ARMOR EVER instead of just doing the reasonable thing and making it a post-war upgrade of the T-45.
>There are people who expect Bethesda to not fuck up lore after completely ruining The Elder Scrolls
If they can't treat their own baby right how can you expect them to do the same to Fallout.
There's only three canonical Fallout games in my eyes, 1, 2, and New Vegas. I still enjoy Bethesda's stuff for what they are but I know they don't give a shit about the lore.
>>321456209
>what are unfinished/untested prototypes
>>321470104
>At you going to keep ignoring the fact that replicating the pain to seem worn off is virtually impossible?
>what is sandpaper
which quest line is the quickest to meeting maxson?
>>321470219
>But it's okay when New Vegas did it, right?
Yes it did.
>>321470029
>T-60 made the day of the bombs dropping
>Not all destroyed when a nuke hit the production facility
>Not all scattered a few miles away from the production facilities still locked in their cases in cargo trucks
>In Boston of all places
>Nothing is in Boston to warrant express delivery of 100s of new power armor suits
>>321458027
51 looked like a downs baby in fallout 3. Proportions were all off.
It looks much better in F4
>>321456330
not Todd Howard
>>321470354
Do the brotherhood quest, follow the main quest until Kellogg is dead, go straight to Cambridge and take that vertibird up immediately.
>>321470228
>efforts are made to stamp out counterfeiting
Unless the authorities can be in every building in the entire wasteland at the same time there is no way to stop it. Same way you wouldn't be able to stop everyone blacksmithing or farming. They are all extremely easy tasks that require very few tools and just a tiny scrap of know-how.
>>321470240
That's exactly what they did. They even say so in the artbook.
>>321470391
Tell me why I should be bothered more about OPs shit than them raping the dialogue system?
>>321470391
Please tell me where I can find the humdreds of frames. I want to build a settlement out of power armor.
plz&thx
>>321470325
Sand paper doesn't even begin to emulate the wear and tear of 200 years. Plus son random ass farmer couldnt just get his hands on machine that makes caps.
Whatever dude, keep on memeing. You're a fucking dumbass and have been samefagging as people agreeing with you the entire thread just to make your worthless skill of making bottle caps make send in a fictional world where bombs destroyed almost everything.
>>321456209
>The T-60 is obviously just a new concept of the T-45 for armor frames
>Either the artist was a faggot or the production heads are retarded so they just made it it's own thing
I mean, I don't mind, but they obviously just decided at random to add two different T-45 concepts.
>>321470553
Why not just call it the T-46? Like, that's a cool name and it doesn't poop on the lore for no good raisin.
>>321470167
Then explain why New Vegas has Counterfeit caps that are worthless.
>>321470305
>2
Fuck, memester
>>321458027
Your friend has wildly better taste than yours.
APA in NV = Looked like FUCKING SHIT, honestly embarrassing that a professional company could produce an armor model that looked this fucking bad. Literally worse than the APA armor mods for FO3.
The X01 looks so much better it's not even funny, it's night and day. Say whateevr you want about Bethesda, but they completely fixed the horrible NV design for FO4 and finally made the APA look good in 3D.
>>321470621
It's all just a shit slinging contest now, we agree that it's one massive shitball so we take pieces off and bitch about them more intimately.
>>321470553
Which did they do?
>>321470720
The X-01 cocked up the eyes, though. Suit just looks wrong with dark eyes.
Like it looks incredible with the spotlights on but then you need to constantly have the spotlight on
>>321470013
>thinking simple logos with simple colors cant be counterfeited
Right so you have currency in real life with all sorts of different layers of protection against the stuff and it still gets counterfeited, but no a fucking bottle cap with the word "nuka cola" is just not possible to make in a world where people jury rig plasma rifles. Thanks for being a retard.
>>321466570
You're right, that's why they dropped it in FO2 and brought in NCR money too
>finding that cap stash in FO2 and it meaning NOTHING
kek
>>321470702
The ebin meming is the only problem with FO2's writing, there's a better story than even FO1 under there
If somebody made a "NO FUCKING MEMES" fix for FO2 it'd be 10/10 and really, it serves as a cautionary tale. Don't put ebin topical humor in your game, it only dates it and could make it heavily unenjoyable in the near to far future.
>>321470673
>machine that makes caps
The fact that you phrase it this way shows that you have zero knowledge on the subject and despite the vast wealth of knowledge at your fingertips refuse to educate yourself. I've said it before in this thread, but spend a few minutes looking it up on Youtube and you can figure out exactly what a trivial process it is.
It's called a bottle cap press and it is an extremely simple machine.
>>321470702
>Not liking 2
Come on man there's few games that have dialogue options like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PqMe7fydq4
>>321470740
>implying people would bother shitposting about a game that bad.
>>321470696
This.
The T-60 should have been the Brotherhood custom model, made from a cobbling of T-45 and T-51 parts or something. A freestanding model that was supposedly the newest even though it looks just like the T-45 is silly.
>>321470537
Yeah, and you find counterfeit caps throughout the game. Unless you can make your own press (which mercantile organizations are always hunting down), you're not going to be able to counterfeit enough caps to make a difference, even with enough labor.
>>321471063
>Basing your entire opinion of a game on a single character's dialogue.
>>321467992
Except those were obviously easter eggs not meant to be treated seriously, unlike pre-war terminal entries or sidequests
>>321471190
>Unless you can make your own press
Luckily, a press is a simple machine to make.
>>321471125
They probably decided it had to be its own armor when they realized they didn't have the characteristic new masked armor that every fallout game before has.
But even then, there's no reason the "new" armor couldn't have been a post-war brotherhood creation. It's not like they care about consistency regarding the possibility of finding it somewhere before the Brotherhood come, Jet is already everywhere.
>>321471264
It's a damn good RPG with a shitload of content, yeah it's not perfect few games of this kind are but it's still a classic.
>>321470505
Right now I'm doing danse's quest to rescue guys, is the main quest visiting piper's news place?
>>321471374
>a press is a simple machine to make.
Shit, even piper has a fucking printing press. If that cunt can manage that, imagine what a reasonably smart person could do?
>>321471125
Why can't a newer design look more like an old one, though? The T60 was likely based visually on the T45, but it can still be a newer model than the T51. I mean if armor designs are anything like warplane designs, the T45 and T60 could be made by one company winning the bid while the T51 was made by another.
Fuck Benevolent Leader, this is good right?
Can I put the game down and kill myself? Is Dynasty Warriors 8: Empires any good cause I'm playing that next?
>>321471560
Tomb Raider is a classic too, doesn't mean it isn't shit by today's standards.
>got bored as fuck playing male character
>decided to make female character
>whole goal will just be to build a lesbian harem
I now see why Waifufags do it.
>>321471719
That printing press looked familiar, isn't it one similar to the style of press Benjamin Franklin used? Now that would have been a cool quest. Recover some Revolutionary War shit like F3 did with the Declaration.
>>321472048
>>321472048
>make a female character
>Ronda Rousey
>str10 agi10
>go on to kill everything in my path with fists
>>321456209
I don't know enough about Fallout lore to argue with you, so I'm just gonna say that the FO4 T-60 looks so fucking awesome that all your arguments are invalid.
T-51 power armor looks like it's having trouble looking at me
>>321471701
Finish all of Danse's quests, then go to Diamond City and follow the neon signs. Pretty sure you don't have to talk to Piper at all.
>>321471810
No it doesn't Tomb Raider has aged like crap. It's only really enjoyable for Nostalgic/Historical reasons.
Fallout 2 still does stuff better than a shitload of modern RPGs, it's a classic.
Let's compare it to film. King Kong (1933) is a groundbreaking movie and dazzled audiences, but you watch it today and it's crap that can't even compare to the modern blockbusters of the last 30 years. 12 Angry Men is an old film that you watch today and it's fantastic.
Fallout 2 is closer to 12 Angry Men than it is to King Kong.
>>321472327
>states all opposing arguments are invalid
>doesn't attempt to justify their own belief
Go to bed kid
>>321472626
>getting salty because someone isn't as invested as you in pointless /v/ shitflinging
I get the visual they were going for with the T51, but it's probably my least favorite of the "mainline" power armors so far.
X01 > T60 > T45 > T51 >>>>>>> NVAPA
>>321469036
I bet OP reads the terminals too
>>321472563
No it is not. Show it to anyone who doesn't know enough about it to have an opinion and they'll tell you exactly what it is: an outdated game that is only fun for the people who grew up with it.
>>321472626
If you want a compelling argument, just do a Google image search for Paladin Danse. Just the other day I saw someone took his codom hood of and gave him Raybans. All y'all arguments are hereby invalid, by decree of Paladin Danse wearing aviators.
>>321457920
>once again, bethesda's fallout is people cobbling together shacks from things that are perfectly habitable themselves
glad it didn't make it this far
>>321456209
>they didn't introduce T-60 as a brotherhood upgrade to the T-45
Seriously they look the same just T-60 is bigger.
The fuck Bethesda
>>321473013
I played it for the first time in 2011 with Fallout 1 after finishing up New Vegas. I love it.
Next you'll tell me System Shock 2 has aged like crap.
Here's an idea Anon, maybe it's just not your type of game.
>>321462015
Why the fuck does it need to be balanced?
>>321471063
How are you gonna talk about how good the dialogue is and then pick the most fucking boring dialogue options....
Fuckin hate bullshit like this. Fuck you
>>321456209
You act like the writers read every wiki article about the subject before they start.
>>321466684
nuclear powered cars? thats retarded
>>321476347
Wasn't there a batman comic with a nuclear powered car?
>>321468887
I think the issue is scale. I don't think they could be made (pliers, sheet metal, hand-painted, scratched up) post-war in quantities large enough to upset the economy, such as it is.
>>321456209
>the current year
>caring about Fallout lore when Bethesda have shown absolute disregard for it
>>321457920
>Of all the shit to wax nostalgic over, why did it have to be the 'iconic' designs of Fallout 3?
Bethesda can't stand the thought of the iconic designs originating with anyone but themselves.
>>321470391
>>Nothing is in Boston to warrant express delivery of 100s of new power armor suits
Nothing except the fact that 200-odd years later the player will be exploring Boston.
Remember, in a Bethesda open world game, the entire universe revolves around the player, no matter what that requires.
Reminder that international travel is canon in Bethesda Fallout.
