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Who is the biggest cunt and why is it Dido?
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Heil Bismarck
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This smug whore.

Every time I finally get around to defeating Russia, I like to fap while I imagine my soldiers bursting into her royal palace and violently raping her.
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>>321425647
Oh fuck that fucking motherfucking expansionist cunt
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I want to get into Civ, I already have Civ V, but I don't know where to exactly start?
Do I need to spend a couple of hours reading some guide or just the useless tutorial will suffice?
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>>321426038
first of all, get the expansion packs if you haven't done so already
the game is notably better in every possible way with them
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Ghandi every fucking time.
>allies for hundreds of years
>haha! my surprise attack will leave you begging for mercy!

Ghengis
>batteringram.exe
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>>321426038
It really is not that hard to pick up, the game gives you enough tips while playing
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>>321426128
Yeah set tutorials to first time player and the advisors will guide you.

And never underestimate the power of CULTURE, build monument first
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>>321425647
If you knew about her history you would know she might actually like that
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>>321426160
>>321426251
>>321426128
Thanks, I've seen a lot of people on my friends list play this game, and it seems pretty interesting to me.
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>>321426251
>not going for religion first
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>>321426415

>My Little Pony achievement

>get horses with Catherine
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>>321425065
Dido is a bro in almost all my games.
Honestly, my main problem is the super aggressive leaders like Shaka and Ghengis steamrolling the other Civs and dominating half a continent.
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>>321426251
do be aware once you reach the point you can take the AI at prince level (might not even take all that long) the advisers are going to flat out wrong often
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>>321426560
honestly that's what I'm hoping for
nothing's worse than playing the game and no final boss shows up
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Rama Rama Ding Dong from Siam is the biggest ass wipe in the game
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>>321426528
>"haha that's a good one"
>look it up
>it's real
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This cunt
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>>321426135
You're thinking Attila. Genghis is
>pew pew keshik
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>>321426761
genghis aint that bad, he sucks at taking cities so you can archerwall him to death
big issue with Attila is he carves through cities like a knife through butter
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>>321425647
>become allies with her
>half way into the game she denounces me for no reason and starts taunting me every 5 turns
every time
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>>321425065
Pachahuti is always a wonder hoarding cunt in my games, but most of the time he kinda flatlines late game so its just easy free shit.

City spamming motherfuckers like Washington and Hiawatha piss me off big time
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>Alexander the Great
>Ramalamadingdong
>Attila "420 Raze It Faggot" The Hun
>OOOH SHAKA
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>>321425065
>And the award for world's worst neighbour goes to....
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Around alexander, never relax. Eventually he'll send a hopltie occupation force to facefuck your cities if they're not on hill+wall+comp bow
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>>321426729
Dude fuck Alexander. Never include diplomatic victories with this asswipe. He's already guaranteed a win before the game even starts. Say goodbye to your city state buffer zone. He's going to get them to turn on you and then he'll use them to buttfuck you.

I make sure to raze every city of his that I capture. The Greeks are a scourge and they must be exterminated.
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>>321425065
>want enemy killed but don't want to be a warmongerer
>gift an army to enemy of my enemy and wait for them to do the job
>right after killing my enemy they turn on me
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>>321427269
I never build walls, shit's ugly mate
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>>321427287
>not waiting for your enemy to declare war on a loyal city state, then gift your army to them

L2proxy war
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>>321427315

That's because you're a settler

on rank 5 and above all of your cities neighboring civs need walls
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>>321427282
too true, there've been times in the late game where all he's got left is some far flung island city with a pop of 2, so I let him live and he still holds onto his fucking city state allies. Greece are a plague
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>Save the world from Monty, who decides to run across half the continent

>"Ah, The bloodthirsty one shows his face"
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>>321427414
I usually play on emperor
best defense is a good offense, city walls are a waste of production
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Sejong of Korea and Babbylonian are my greatest fears because if the AI is smart and isn't forced to war, their science gain can completely fuck you up
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Why is the AI in Civ so retarded?
>tfw impossible to roleplay
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>>321427501

????

So you'd rather waste your time and gold on building horsemen instead of walls, using that extra time to make buildings that cost gold that you cannot afford because you have fucking horsemen?

God damn anon you're a retarded nigger.
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Zulus, that civilization is such a dick, fucking turn 20 and that bigger wants to declare war on me,
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>>321425065
The biggest cunt is whoever fucks you personally over the most.
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>>321427794
the utility of a horseman is far greater than that of a wall
just abuse the shit out of the environment and the enemy never gets close to your cities to begin with, and even if they do that wall isn't going to make a difference what so ever. Either the enemy shows up with a force that's barely enough to take your city and you can take it out well before they get close or else they show up with a force so overwhelming that extra turn doesn't matter

and that horseman can be used to strike at your enemy when he's weak or distracted destroying his economy and slowing his growth rather than him doing the same to YOU
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>>321425065
Ramahamadingdong pisses me off the most, he just constantly bombards me with denunciations and never accepts fair trade deals. Every. Single. Fucking. Game.

Also, CIV VI WHEN?
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>>321427794

I'm the typical fag that will build the castle and engi for the wonder that gives u happiness for the castles, it's saved my ass quite a few times
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>>321427717

This.

I just want a grand strategy game that encourages roleplay. Give me a shit load of personalisations options and let my godking rape this horsefucker after she's been conquered.
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>>321428540
sure its strong, but it comes so late game its not going to win you the game
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Is this game ment to be played multiplayer or is singleplayer just fine?
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>>321428694


I do that mostly for insurance incase my happiness takes a shit from not being world ideology, losing cities from that Pisses me off SSSOOOO bad lol
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>Completing the policy tracks achievements are broken, and will never be fixed.
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>>321428843

Either or, I pretty much always play single player because most people quit mid way in the game
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Is the tutorial worth playing, or should I just start a normal game with the advisor on?
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I'm suprised I haven't seen anyone bitch about vinece, I always make a new game if I get stuck with that grey bush
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>>321428843
one game can last 10-20 hours so unless you have people you can trust to put in that many hours play the shitty AI
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>>321428581
Crusader Kings II with mods
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>>321429080


I played on normal mode and did alright, you should do fine, it might take a few games.to evolve your strategy though
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This fucker always manages to have an endless stream of missionaries to send my way.
And he doesn't even pick good bonuses.
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culture and diplomatic victories are too easy
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>>321429256
What mods?[/poiler]

Also just general mods that make the game a bit more involving. My current experience is just having the game of fast forward until I have casus belli. Steam roll the small province. Rince and repeat.
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Isolated starts in a peninsula, on an island, or the enemy is cornered in a hole are the best if you have early game units

>Be egypt
>spawn near austria
>find out we're isolated by a bunch of city states to the ne that no one can expand into
>mountain range along the north
>I get a 2 stone 1 marble spawn

My two neighbors hated my guts afterwards, but the city locations the ai choosed were just fucking bad. They weren't even along a river.
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>>321429187
Venice is easy to deal with because he's only one capital, so you sack venice and he's fucked for the entire match because he's stuck with puppet city states for other cities.
The only hard part about it is that you'll have to deal with the crook civs he hires with the shekels he stole to defend him
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>>321429767
>egypt marble start
please tell me you went tradition, got the early wonders religion and build literally all of them
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>>321429873

Just irritating losing a ally to that purple fairy,
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who here /small map loads of civs/
makes it much more intense
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so, how's the start?
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>>321430268

Never tried it before, first time for everything I guess
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>>321430014

Nope, it was on emperor difficulty and I was going wide. I did get pyramids, and I was thinking of getting masoleum to help assuage my gold loss from going warmonger early. I ended up not pulling the trigger on that and overproduced chariot archers. I could have dealt with Austria with 2-3 less of them. Only one of their cities had an archer, and none had walls.
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>>321430421
>1366x768

kill yourself
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>>321430421

Imo kind of shit, I lack of production and food, if u get the pedora or w/e it's called it would be decent

I strive for high production. With a mountain and river
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>>321430421
>that godlike start wasted on the Zulus
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>>321430268
definitely, I love medium terra with like 17 civs - makes advantages of colonisation much greater, smaller maps means the AI actually colonises too before like 2030. Usually at least 2 or 3 civs die within 100 turns.
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How is this start?
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>>321425065
>Carthage has exactly one famous, iconic leader
>Pick a FUCKING FICTIONAL CHARACTER instead because muh diversity

Fuck that, Carthage got screwed out of Hannibal. Why not just give Britain King Arthur if you are going to go down that route.
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>>321430931
everyday im trufflin
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>>321430931

It can be okay maybe if you still have tons of camps nearby and go the +1 food from camps pantheon

You will never use either of your UUs though so its shit
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>>321430942
>>Pick a FUCKING FICTIONAL CHARACTER instead because muh diversity

Giving China Wu Zetian
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>>321430931
>acquire all the truffles
>start selling them for MPT
>ammas wealth
>rebuild Roman empire
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>>321431496

Wu Zetian is probably the most well known Chinese leader and she was quite powerful in her own right

though she was a FUCKING PSYCHOPATH even for Chinese and kings standards
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>>321430931
Nicer than Catherine's tits, and them are quite nice
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They really dropped the ball on history occasionally in Civ 5. See: The Civ-pedia unironically doing the ''superior katana folded 1000 times" thing.
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>>321430720
no real good place to settle a city nearby though
and not really liking the sheer flat desert, knowing my luck that thing doesn't even have oil
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>>321432072
Rush Petra and get Desert Folklore and you'll be k
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>>321432043
and ranking lincoln among the worlds best leaders even above charlemagne
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>>321432201
gonna go for desert folklore, hope ethiopia isn't in the game
not gonna bother with petra unless I get a great engineer
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>>321430942

>Picking Boudicca over Brennus
>Picking Catherine over Peter the Great
>Picking Maria Theresa over literally 100s of other Habsburgs
>Picking Wu Zeitan over Qin Shi Huang
>Picking Maria I over Henry the Navigator

The only real female rulers who are there on their merits are probably Lizzy and Isabella
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>>321431964
Aww yeah
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Am I the only one here that rushes the great library then national college then floods settlers?
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>>321432205
>tfw I first played Civ and went "Who the fuck is Hammurabi?"
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>>321432491
I want Cao Cao as China's leader. Pretty cool him and Zhuge Liang are great generals, though.
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>>321432491

Germany not having Hitler as a leader too ;)
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>>321432491
>>321432714
>>321431723

Why no love for Kangxi?
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>>321432491
Lets be fair here, while Peter the great is the superior pick, Catherine was a more than capable ruler in her own right and is probably the third most deserving female ruler

Boudicca is pretty fucking bad though, all she's known for is losing and getting raped
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>>321432491
Brian Boru would've been nice for the Celts, but I guess they were aiming for much earlier than that
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>want to play
>steam is fucked
GAAAAABEEEEEEEEEN
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>>321426038
the tutorials will get you on your feet and /civ4xg/ on /vg/ is pretty helpful for new players, at least while I still posted there

Don't play on any difficulty lower than normal/prince or you'll just pick up bad habits, don't play on quick and start with somesimple, non-gimmick civ like rome so you get the basic down
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>>321427287
Ahh, the classic "American Foreign Policy in the Middle East" mistake!
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>>321432491
Maria Theresa was actually a rather influential leader in Austria. She's not just a popular for being female.
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Bumping a fun read thread
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>>321432840

Literal who to most people

Han Wu Di or Qin Shi Huang would be the runner up.
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>Play Brazil
>Get to idealogy phase of the game
>I get a free city from dirty, unhappy, autocracy German neighbour
>mfw the city is fucking poor as shit and it only 12 pop compared to 25+ average in BRAZIL
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Catherine turns me the fuck on man I love to destroy her in this game just to watch her distraught face when I raze her cities, its like raping her
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>Can't play much of Civ 5 because it's boring as fuck
>That and i always end up just fapping at the idea of having Catherine, Boudicca and Wu Zetian as much harem of conquered brides
I'll just stick with /gsg/
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>start near shaka zulu
>everything is okay for like 30 turns
>slowly starts building cities near me
>suddenly declares war and I have 5 one population cities on my borders
>sends endless armies of impis that have their bullshit ability
>tear down one city and three more pop up
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>>321435956


Hell yeah dude, Brazil is beast as fuck with the special abilities and the infantry is quite nice too, I'm more of a Spain or Babylon person but Brazil can be quite intimidating playing against
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>>321436403
Am I the only who'd rather fantasize about them domming me, with me worshipping them as I give them any tribute they demand, no matter how ridiculous, before the inevitably turn on me and start attacking my cities and I just picture them stepping on my dick while they subjugate my civilization?
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>>321436761


Lol I hear that! Zulus are the biggest cunt of a neighbor, momumentza Is a close second it seems
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>>321437080

Your probably the only one lol
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>>321437080
No, because i'm not a kuck
Burch pls go
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>>321427483

This Greece is a game breaker.
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>>321435978
>that defeated expression
>"That makes me your captive"

hnngggggggggggggg
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AM I REALLY THE ONLY ONE TO HATE THIS FUCKING CUNT ?
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>>321438152
Oh fuck i forgot Lizzie - another one for the harem
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>>321438152

Meh she never Messes with me to bad
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I honestly spent maybe over 650 hours last time I checked and for the life of me can't recall ever playing against spain, guessing by her abilities she is a warmonger I'm guessing?
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>>321435746
He defeated Russia, took Taiwan off the Dutch and presided over a great Chinese empire very recently (1700s). 10/10 would fuck again.
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>tfw teaming up with Waifu Zetian and completely dominating all other civs
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>>321438856
>She'll still say no to your declaration of friendship no matter what
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Gajah Mada. So bad I am now automatically hostile to any Indonesian flag on flagged boards
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>>321438373
She sides against me in every single game she's in. So it became my little tradition to let her keep London until I can bathe the city in nuclear fire.
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>>321438856

>dominating the world with ethiopia
>they suddenly lose their shit and attack me
>to pay them back for their betrayal I methodically go about targeting all of their farms and food luxury resources
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What's the preferred difficulty to enjoy Civ in? I've been beating my Immortal games but they're more stressful than fun
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>>321425065
It's not though

Alexander is a tremendous infinitely expanding cunt as well as Hiawatha
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>>321438325
That's unacceptable !
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>>321439564

6 imho. 7 just gets some bullshit
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How do some people get a 1000 hours in this game?

I've spent 50 hours in this game and I feel like I've explored everything and have done everything

Explain it to me
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>>321427491
Every fucking game. The worst is when they ask you to go to war with them, then they drop out and call you a warmonger.
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>>321439651
I already had a redhead
But then again you can never have to many reds
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>>321439087
It's tough, but I've gotten her to do it quite a few times.

Usually takes bribing her with GPT for me.
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>>321439564

I tried deity once, probably never playing that level again, the whole game was nothing but a slug fest
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>>321439564
>>321439564
Immortal is pretty great. If you have trouble, try Harun al-Rashid. Shit tons of gold + camel archers = no one stands a chance. Deity is really stressful and you don't stand a chance if you aren't aggressive early on because you are developing way too slowly compared to the AI's. But you can still win without playing as a barbaric militaristic dictatorship on Immortal, but obviously, only with the more OP civs
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Why is this guy in every match i play
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>>321439564
I play 6 or 5 usually, anything above that and it's just rush for science and entrench yourself for me
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What are some civs that are fun to play /v/? I just always play for a science victory and don't really have the patience for a domination one either
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>>321442187

My personal favorites would be spain or babylon, Brazil is pretty decent too
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>>321429873
>>321429187

Venice is also the only one who can counter Alexander reliably.
What city state allies?
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>>321442414
I'm one of those " wall fag " though
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>>321442187
>I just always play for a science victory
How dull. I can't play any other way than domination without getting bored out of my mind
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>>321442187

Heres how to get your feet wet into warmongering gameplay anon

pick a civ with a decent early UU, them are for fighting. Most are pretty good, persias the only UU that is barely an upgrade early on.
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>>321442850
this
Science is a backup in case my world domination doesn't go as planned
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Anyone else get AI Elizabeth hoarding city state allies?
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>Play on a map with a bunch of friendly civs and 1 Attila
>Theyre too busy defending themselves against him to notice I'm ahead of them in virtually everything

Why are warmongers so perfect?
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who here /gives up halfway because you're already dominating/

even at harder difficulties it just becomes a chore slowly steamrolling everyone
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>he doesn't play Poland
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>>321444687
its fun to team up with another civ and go to town on everyone else
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>>321444312
They probably are the best way to go in my opinion especially if you can become a technologically superior nation that is the zulus, I think that would be the hardest to beat, but I am open to hear others opinions on it
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>misclicking
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>>321444687
You can always play fucking civ rehab and try to prevent the civs u bring back from being killed again. Civ 4 diplomatic features, buggy as it is, is a godsend for this b/c u can just send them techs
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>>321425065
thats not alexander
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>>321445130
>accidentally go to war when wanting to trade
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>>321445130
>misclicking a vital military unit to switch places with another military unit
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>>321439564
Immortal here. Hard enough where I don't run away by mid-game, easy enough to mess with random strategies.
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>>321432840
too peaceful, despite being based
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>>321441150
Fuck that asshole.
He's forced my hand twice now to steal city states right out from under his nose (he does all the work, I waltz in and take it kek) then he has the audacity to complain that I'm moving in too close.

Fuck William, fuck the dutch.
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hey new player here, how do i git gud? any general strategies to follow?
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>>321442187
ARABIA ! CAMEL ARCHERS OP !
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>>321438152
She only bothered me once, then lost her entire fleet and i made all her cities convert
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I have never had a good experience with the Iroquois or Ramesses. The latter as I like to play sandfag kingdoms and rush wonders but the former will always betray me and be some major expansionist land power.

Iroquois guy has big puppydog brown eyes but man fuck that redskin bastard.

>>321432491

Even with Isabella if I recall right she was a kind of co-ruler with Ferdinand, and Ferdy was the militant one interested in imperial expansion while Isabella was something like Mary the mother of jesus in the flesh to her subjects, even the Moorish ones.

Maria Theresa I think was a good choice, she wasn't a do nothing and ruled over Austria at an important time.

Olga of Kiev would be a neat change of pace for Russia. She also happens to be a hardcore pyrophilia.
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>>321438749
Isabel's as much a warmonger as England (backstabbing you and shit), plus she hates warmongers. In fact, she'll most likely hate pretty much everything you do if you are not showering her in resources or staying far, far away from anything of interest to her.
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>>321446091


It will become natural after a few games, it's different strokes for different folks
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Attila is usually friendly and weak or dead before I even meet him. AI Attila is shit-tier
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What are some fun Civs to play in Civ V?
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>>321448358
Spain, Babylon and China
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>>321448358
everyone
but poland is funnest
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says a lot about beyond earth when everybody prefers to play Civ 5 BNW instead of BE

I hope sid takes a note from this.
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>>321444696
>>321448584
poland pls
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>>321448780
I still prefer civ 4 and imagine a few others do as well. Wonder what that says.
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>>321448780
BE doesn't have the qol changes BNW has to the comfy feeling that watching your civ grow.
But I'll give BE the benefit of having the infinitely cooler wonders.
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>>321447281
It's the same as every other early warmonger civ; he spams so many units that he takes over the world in the ancient era, but if the game lasts into classical their science is too horrible to keep up
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>>321449052
>Wonder what that says.
that people prefer broken spysystems and still have a hateboner for tiles
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What do you do when someone beats you to a wonder a turn away from completing it? I reload the save from when I started but that takes too long and is annoying having to do all those turns all over again.
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>>321449830
You play the game and continue on.
There's only two Wonders that are necessary to all civs and those are; Notre Dame because happiness is fucking OP and Hubble Space Telescope because 2 FREE great scientists at this era lets you speed into other tech.
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hiawatha why did you betray me

we were bros
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>>321450383
you must have done something catastrophic for him to betray you

like being a wojack poster
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Only played Civ4.
How is Civ5 and BE? Are they worth playing?
Is England/Elizabeth still broken as fuck?
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>>321450660
Civ 5 is excellent with all the expansion

BE still needs a lot of work
music is nice though
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>>321450362
Always get Pyramids, never get Notre Dame. Often get Sistine Chapel which is a decent consolation.
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>be Korea
>pretty much fucked from the get-go, bad terrain, island map, share it with the jew and mai waifu Isabella
>everything turns to shit as two superpowers emerge as Denmark and Spain destroys literally everyone else, splitting the entire planet between them
>use the entire game to throw ressources at Isabella
>Denmark and Spain finally goes to war with eachother
>get the spaceship
See you later, fuckers! Enjoy your nuclear holocaust!
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>buy it because it was on sale and I've never played a game like this before
>literal walls of text just explaining the game
please tell me there's some good youtube videos explaining literally wtf is happening in this game, if I wanted to read a book I would've bought one
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>>321452846
>reading
Just the play the damn game, it'll come to you pretty fast
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>>321451275
Pyramids are pretty useless since it's much easier to just steal two workers from nearby city-states.
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>Implying it ain't Isabella
Bitch has literally betrayed me in every single fucking game But I keep putting her in because she is the best looking female
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>>321452846
just tutorial it, holy christ anon
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>>321452846
>this whole post
its people like this that'll make civ 6 even more casual
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>>321452846
Civ 5 really isn't a complicated game, there's just a lot going on right at the start and it has a habit over overwhelming new players.
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Is it bad to savescum.
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>>321453880
yes
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>>321453078
25% tile improvement rate increase is not so bad, especially when coupled with Liberty's 25% increase

on smaller maps, you run out shit to improve pretty quickly though
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>wipe out the shoshone who were being huge dicks
>Kamehameha and Enrico still chillin, we're the power trio while Siam and Dido are jealous
>suddenly denouncements everywhere
Kamehameha why, I thought we were cool
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>>321452846
>build a massive standing army
>buy every building in every city of yours
>make sure to systematically work your way up science tree, not skipping anything

It's not hard anon
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I really like the voice-work (They have proper historians looking up actualy possible dialects for leaders with extinct languages e.g. mongols), music, variety of leaders. I would give it all up for better AI.

Playing Diety and Poland has 6 cities up by turn 35? Meanwhile I'm micromanaging my food so I don't grow too fast with 2 cities, calculating how long it will take my worker to be built and for him to get a luxury up and timing it so I get the citizen at the same time. Of course all nearby city states are protected and accidentally completing one of their quests gets the other civs on your case for "becoming too friendly". Can't go to war because lol20 cities each producing units faster than you and zerging them into your cities.
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>>321453880
yes
unless you're trying to get a prophet asap

fuck that bullshit rng
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>>321454285
HATE WARMONGERING
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>>321454419
They forced me to be a warmonger. Now I own all of Asia, Africa and Europe. Byzantine is back, bitches.
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I use Advanced Editor or whatever the mod is called to straight up ban Civs that piss me off without having to manually select all the Civs I want in the game

Bye bye Iroquois!
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>>321454347
there are mods that increase civ AI capabilities
they make turns take like 5 minutes to process

Playing diety isn't any fun anyway. It's always jsut a game of "okay how am I going to cheese a science victory this time" or going dom with an overpowered UU

Playing against players is much better
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>>321436403
That reminds me of something.
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>>321425647
Catherine's always really nice to me, even when I declare war on her allies she still is very nice. Now Sulleiman is a real piece of shit tell ya what
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>>321454162
>>321454406
I just really suck at wonder rushing ok.
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>>321430268
You're referring to THE THUNDERDOME matches. Fit as many civs as you can onto the smallest pangea map, and have fun.
It's my favorite way to play civ 5
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>>321455104
I prefer doing it with the smallest size all-land map and max civs
it gets so fucking dense it's crazy
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>>321449467
>broken spysystems
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>>321439747
Playing with friends makes it 100x more fun. I play with diplomatic/time off with 3 of my buddies and we usually go to war with each other or sign crazy out of game agreements to fuck the others over. It adds a whole new level of depth.
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>>321455104
I love discovering poor fuckers who never got to found a city 100 turns in.

I always cheat and pick Shosone.
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>>321455679
it really is something else to play with actual players instead of AIs

AIs are far to predictable, far to self serving and just don't comprehend unorthodox strategies and meaningful alliances
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>>321433935
/civ4xg/ is hella dead, my man.
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>>321450383
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>Enemy civ settler trying to get past my borders
>Buy the tile, blocking him off so the Settler fumbles around trying to get around
>mfw
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Can you let workers on auto or is it suicide?
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>>321455679
i used to have people to play with and do this in civ 4

yeah, it was fun, but turns took way too long once we got to the modern era so it inevitably just turned into a nuclear holocaust
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>>321456145
it's pointless since they won't build what's needed all the time. just do it yourself
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>>321456313
I'm not sure of what to build, it seems overwhelming.
Also how many worker do you need? One per city?
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>>321456145
they do stupid shit like turning jungles in plantations and love spamming trading posts. Plus they can't properly prioritize important tiles.

Do it manually in the early game but eventually it's not a big deal if you just let them automate.

also make sure they can't replace improvements in the settings or they'll fuck everything up
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>>321426878
>be on friendly terms with her
>she makes fun of my military
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>>321456145
>>321456313
>leave all workers on auto
>puppet states drown in trading posts
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>>321456456
for most of the game, like 1 or 2 is fine just for idle improvements.
You can always just spam like 2 and fully build and set up a city in like 5 turns if you wish however

You should also focus on developing your capital fully before anything else unless there's a new resource in some other city.
Have like 3-4 of your first workers on your capital. You can get a lot of extra workers by stealing them from city states or capturing other civs' settlers early on.

Also, always always always always improve food tiles first. Food is always the most important
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>>321456456
one per city sounds about right just for general use although you'll learn how much you need depending on what you want to do later. the most important thing is to link your cities by roads with your workers. you'll also notice when you go into city planner there will be hexes showing benefits like extra food, commerce and science. you can build improvements on those hexes that enhance them like farms, windmills, what ever. just play the game and you'll learn
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>>321456753
1-2 per city
and spamming like 20
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>>321456313
>>321456512
>>321456695
>>321456753
>>321456835
Noted, I'll try to stop being lazy and get good.
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>>321455870
You should not play civ 5 with other human players. Civ was never meant to be played with any other living beings. Logistically it's too difficult. You have to wait for human players to complete turns, and combat is iffy at best.
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Alexander starts on the same continent (Hourglass style, top had 4 civs, bottom had me and Alexander), way across the map from me, at the start of the game. First thing he does is get hostile and declare war.

He won't concede anything in peace negotiations when I have him dead to rights. He just offers one of his multiple luxuries, and peace. Not even budging for 20 gold.
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>>321456835
also note that it's not always profitable to link cities by roads.

I really forget how the calculations work but the city connection gold won't always break even with the road maintenance cost.
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If you want an AI to peace out, just pillage their tiles. The computer values land more than it should.
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I pretty much conquered the 2 major capitals next to my city but there are 3 more states that I still havent discovered. I'm playing a 6 player game (5 CPUs) and built boats to check around the map. I rotated in circles all over the place trying to find the 3 other states but there are invisible walls everywhere i go in the water.

Where the FUCK are the 3 other CPUs? I'm stuck on my continent.
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>>321456145
I do it late game when I have a ton of cities and am too lazy to keep track of them all. They mostly build roads (even when I don't need roads) or trading posts. Just keep an eye on them and check the boxes in the menu so they don't build over shit already there.
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>>321426729
this desu
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>>321457207

i find just obliterating their offensive and stepping one tile into their territory will scare most civs. if not, one salvo of artillery on a city is usually enough for them to offer you that city
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>emperor egypt wide
>snag pyramids-stonehenge-temple of artemis in capital
>producing great engineers naturally and dont have to use liberty for great prophet
>amazing petra land to my east
>rush petra with my engineer from wonder points
>rush oracle in a science city in jungle+mountains with free great engineer

That had the makings of a great game until I lost all my sea trade because fucking barbarians. I am always too greedy and dont build a galley or two to act as a sea scout to prevent camps forming along my trade routes.
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>>321457068
the commerce or lack thereof from roads is inconsequential though. the main benefit is being able to quickly move units between cities and caravans can easily make up for gold deficits
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>>321457068

there are other bonuses for having cities connected. production and trade bonuses. religion spreads much faster
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>>321457695

Roads are pretty fucking good, as long as you dont have to route them over a river or through hills
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>>321457068
connect a city to the capital when the population of that city is roughly equal to the number of tile between them

>>321457362
You get deep water boats after astronomy, they're all on another continent probably.

Also note food = science in civ5, which is important for every type of win. So, in important cities, raise the pop as far as you can while minding happiness, and in conquered cites, replace all farms with trading posts. You want low pop in cities that aren't crucial, because pop leads to unhappiness.

I'll hang around the thread to answer any civ 5 questions if anyone cares.
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>>321458049

is there ANY situation or build in which taking Liberty over Tradition is a good idea?
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>>321425065
O MON OPION THAAAVMA!
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>>321458215

Lib-Piety can crush
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>>321458215
Not really.
If you plan on playing a pretty wide game, liberty can work well enough. It's still probably better to take Tradition in most cases. I do know of a niche build involving the mayans and infinite city spam that likes liberty.
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>>321458215
Achievement hunting
And I'd still restart the game after that.
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>>321458616
Addendum:
Liberty isn't AWFUL, it's just not optimal in almost every situation.
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I used to play Civ IV a lot back in the day but never tried V, does it still feel good to absolutely dominate the female leaders of other civs?
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>>321446812

Jesus...unless I go science or Culture peaceful games Isabella HATES me...which is sad because I love her so much. Once my empire is situated I end up just giving her everything I can spare since nobody else will trade with me, just in the hopes that she will somewhat like my warmongering asshole of a self.
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>>321458872

Isabella is probably the most devout leader of them all. if you share a religion it will help immensely
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>>321454334
>321454334

you are a terrible, terrible person.
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>>321458724

It's possible to lose the game in 1250 due to sacred sites bomb
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>>321459387
The theordora wide game thing?
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>>321458215
I usually go full Liberty with Tradition+Oligarchy
or Full Tradition with Liberty+Citizenship
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>>321432491
Isabella is a frigid cunt.
The fact that she doesn't hate me for not worshiping the same religion as hers triggers me hard. Why is there no religious intolerance in Civ V?
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>>321459474

Anyone that can get an early faith to guarantee double faith buildings can do it. You just limit the size of the city to your local happiness, so you can make 2 cities per luxury you have.
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>>321458215
If I think / know that I can get enough culture to match the +3 from Tradition's opener, I go with Liberty and quickly go for the free settler.

That's probably a terrible strategy, but so long as I can get enough culture I'm usually okay.
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>>321457870

So if I connected one of my cities to a neighbor he would get my religion a lot faster?
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>>321430942

Hannibal is a great general. i think it is silly however that one of Carthage's UA is to cross mountains
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>>321429256
I'm too stupid to figure out how to play that though
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All AI in Civ V are so one note cunts
All of them will attack me just for no reason, and If I can get enough Army to kick their ass they will start calling me warmonger.
Is there ever a mod that fix the AI?
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>>321452846
If this is your reaction to CiV, wait until you buy a Paradox strategy game
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>>321460505
Defending yourself is fine, it's only when you start razing the enemy cities and shit that people get pissed off with you.
Unless the person you're fighting is literally Hitler and nobody like them though (it doesn't matter what you think, it's what the others think), in which case you can probably pillage their shitty cities all you want and nobody will care. They'll still consider you a good guy.
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>>321461039
Don't forget Illwinter game.
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>>321461249
>Enemy troops are massing at my borders
>Ohnoyoudon't.tablet
>Attack pre-emptively
>"They consider you a warmongering menace to the world"

The AI are retards.
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>>321460505
Simply having a big army shouldn't do any harm.
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>>321461449
dude always let them attack you first
you get no penalty for defending yourself
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>>321461249
most of time your neighbor will attack you because they want your land
but once you start winning and beat them out of existent then its your false
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>>321425647
>News of Catherine's plan spread and Frederick II (others say the Ottoman sultan) warned her that if she tried to conquer Poland by marrying Poniatowski, all of Europe would oppose her.
>I-it's not like I like them or anything, idiot!
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