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Why do you people act like this game doesn't exist when it is clearly the best in the series?
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Anon don't get me wrong, I grew up on it, its aweseome.
But Melee is just better, even at a 10-year-old level
>more characters
>more moves
>more stages
>updated graphics (Mario actually had denim overalls, that shit was crazy to me when I was younger)
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>>321420197
Underage shits. Why else?
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>>321420197
>le SSB64 is good meme

Can you fuck off already, contrarian fucks?
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>>321420556
melee was fucking amazing when it came out, it improved on practically everything that 64 did. the newer smashes really don't have that same feeling
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It certainly has the best sounds, effects and shit.
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>>321420197
>kirby foot

that answer your question?
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It was fun in it's day but it's slow and clunky by current standards.

Kirby, Ness and Cap kicked ass in it though. And then never did ever again.
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>best smash
>not melee
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>>321420556
Why does smash 4 feel so souless compared to melee in single player?
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>>321422520
>but it's slow and clunky by current standards.
How to spot someone that hasn't taken two seconds to learn Z-Cancelling
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>>321422970
Because that puts it up to Melee speed, right?
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>>321423092
>speed is all that matters
Melee will never have a punish game as hard as 64s
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>>321420556
I played this again recently after like 8 years. Why does it feel so clunky? I guess wavedashing and z canceling are absolutely necessary to make the game smoother. It just felt really bad. It made me sad since it was my favorite in my memory.
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>>321423852
>melee
>z cancelling
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>>321423852

I went from playing Smash 4 to Melee a few days ago, a lot of things did feel significantly different. Something that I didn't remember was how slow Captain Falcon's jab is in Melee.

I much prefer Smash 4 for multiplayer than Melee because it's mechanically more fun for me
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>>321423852

Melee doesnt buffer your attacks. It reads every input so your errors show more.
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>>321423852
>clunky
That's exactly how I feel about Brawl and Smash 4. They just don't feel fun to play.
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Reminder that Studstill is our boi.
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I wish Melee didn't have those canceling techniques and such an unbalanced roster; it would be my favorite Smash that way.
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>>321424551
>I wish Melee didn't have those canceling techniques
You don't want lower landing lag?
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>>321424551
>I wish Melee didn't have those cancelling techniques or such an unbalanced roster
Nigga WHAT. The advanced tech is the reason why it's the best smash.
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>>321424789
>You don't want lower landing lag?
Why not just reducing landing lag across the board then?
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>>321425021
Because that would lower the skill ceiling pointlessly. L-Cancelling means you can have casuals play at a slower pace like Sakurai intended, while competitive players can go as fast as they want.
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Reminder.

Smash will never have the hard hitting impact sound effects from Smash 64 ever again. Smash will forever have bland and lifeless sound effects forever now.

>smash 64
>falcon punch sounds like he is punching a semi filled with explosives

>any other smash
>falcon punch sounds like he can barely be bothered to follow through with the punch, much less the bored sound effect that follows

>smash 64
>multi hit moves sound like a homemade machinegun made out of bamboo and steel

>any other smash
>multi hit moves sound like slapping someone with a pool noodle
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>>321425021
>You don't want lower landing lag?
I'm not the one in charge, if it was up to me I'd have L-Cancelling be an automatic thing, but even then, just taking away L-Cancel all together is just straight up stupid
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>>321425334
No one needs your shitty reminder because everyone knows that sound effects wise, 64 is the best
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>>321425334
Frankly, I just want the sword clanging sounds effects from Melee back. Those were cool as fuck.
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>>321420617
>contrarian
except nobody ever says it was bad...
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>>321425334
The original jap 64 sound effects were terrible though. I know you're talking about the west version and I do agree they sounded better but just saying they weren't intended to sound like that.
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>tfw no Metal Mario stage from Smash 64 in Sm4sh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DzkPDyraHI

It hurts.
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>its the one I played the most as the kid so its the best!
You are objectivley wrong. I bet you think wolfenstien is better than Doom.
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>>321425636

That stage is pretty awful honestly.
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>>321425328
L-Cancel is nothing but a Artificial Depth, Casuals wouldn't notice if L-Cancelling was automatic and Pros wouldn't care either, as it is now it only serves as a Skill Barrier for those who want to play Comp Melee
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>>321420197
Smash 64 was amazing and the game that blew me away as a child. I still love that game and wish Sakurai kept improving on it like he did with Melee. My only gripe is that the menu's, Classic and the mini-games lost their soul after Melee. The character select screen was brilliant in Smash 64 and now it is replaced with static images and shitty intros that you can't even see because Smash 4 goes through a quarter of the character's intro animations.

The sounds and the items were better in 64, in my opinion.
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>>321425692
I loved the theme and the atmosphere. For me it was awesome.
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>>321425328
Shut the fuck up moron, if you want pointless busywork on controls go play Street Fighter
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>>321425636
I'm still assmad that they didn't add those special stages that couldn't be played on free for all in the first smash on the last one.
Could have been nice
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>>321425780

Well yeah that's fair.

The stage itself is awful though.
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>>321425741
The entirety of melee l337 techniques are artificial depth
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>>321425872
Yeah even I can agree to that
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Funnily enough 64 tourneys are much more common in my area than Smash 4 tourneys
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>>321425896
You probably thought it was smart to type that, but how is a Wavedash Artificial Depth?
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>>321422138
And the best incarnation of the Falcon Punch.
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>>321420556
>(Mario actually had denim overalls, that shit was crazy to me when I was younger)
I never liked that and I'm glad Smash 4 did away with it. The detailed denim always looked so weird to me.
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>took me forever to unlock Ness and Captain Falcon
>this French nigglet I knew deleted my save
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>>321424064
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>>321422520
Captain is good in melee?
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>>321425741

Mostly true but there are times when an l cancel gets missed even by a pro player. For instance when an aerial connects with a weirdly angled shield.
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>>321425692
What's wrong with it?
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>>321423852
No 10 frame input buffer, meaning your button mashing at an attempt at tech skill doesn't get read.

Its 2015 and you're most likely playing on an HDTV with huge input delay rather than a CRT.
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64 is actually my favorite smash game.
Then Brawl-, then 4, then the rest are just kindda there.
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>go to play 64
>lag
The only reason I don't play it, it just can't fully handle 4 players at once.
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>>321420197
I don't remember Mario and Luigi having mullets
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>>321425741
>VIOLIN INTONATION IS NOTHING BUT ARTIFICIAL DEPTH

Fuck off.
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>>321420197
It's an unpolished Melee.
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64 and Smash 4 are the only good games in the series.

Other than that, Project M is pretty good, but Brawl sucked. Melee is overrated and is not that great of a game.
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