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Where were you when Lawfags, Neutralfags and Chaosfags joined forces?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Yx3X_0t7Y
>>321410834
>this epic is NOT sweet
what did they mean by this
>>321411778
I dunno, meanwhile, you activated my hoy card.
>>321412365
Is there Jonathan one ?
>>321412748
I guess, but i haven't found it.
>>321413142
Anon, since 3, persona is its own mainline, with spin off and everything.
>>321413142
Please don't bring this cancer into SMT threads.
>>321412365
>This artstyle
Is from the same person that made the hoy manga?
>>321413142
Stop false flagging faggot, people can enjoy both.
>>321413142
Look I love persona as much as mainline, but i treat it like its own thing. Most SMT fans dont like persona, so keep it to its own thread.
>>321410834
Art looks so shit jesus.
>>321413481
Your prefer the previous guest art?
Requesting Doi's redraws. I have some, but I don't have Napaea which I saw.
What I have:
Medusa
Lucifer
Merkabah
Mermaid (new)
>>321410834
>Those freaks used to be his friends.
>>321413142
>Persona
Fuck off with your weeb garbage.
>>321413972
Flynn a cute.
>>321414053
>>321414135
THIGHS
H
I
G
H
S
>>321413972
>>321414053
>Medusa isn't ugly as fuck now
>Lucifer actually looks sinister instead of ayyy lmao
The tumor arm still bugs me, but at least the redesigns fixed a lot of the problems.
Doi could do better with Odin but at least it's better than what we had
>>321410834
Judging for this vid, Flynn will never become your battle partner.
>>321414314
Merkabah actually has tits too with nipples.
it's like Amemiya is afraid of boobs or something
>>321413142
But it is, it gets all the budget compared to SMT that's still stuck making shitty looking 3DS games.
>>321414401
Flynn will be a final boss obviously.
Also this?
Why is Sukuna Hikona flynn in an owl suit
>>321414402
>Amemiya
>afraid of boobs
You haven't seen Garo, have you?
>>321414346
What? You didn't like big purple guy with helmet and cloth Odin?
>>321414401
If I'm understanding it correctly, Flynn is a sort of "for humanity" neutral route, while the other routes are Lucifer, Elf Man, and "fuck everyone but yourself".
>MFW FINAL still uses the ugly Blue Titanea
Fuck everything.
I actually thought Napaea's art was pretty good in IV but Doi's is even better
>>321411778
Epic is used to describe stories or some shit.
Like the Epic of Beowulf
a new guy. A Buddha.
>>321414675
The routes are all neutral
>neutral
>neutral peace
>neutral anarchy
>DEEP NEUTRAL
I am sure that this time you can't side with lawfags or chaosfags.
Is there a mystical creature or religious figure that hasn't appeared in a SMT game?
>>321414929
slenderman
>>321414402
I like this artist's design ideas, too bad his style stands out too much among every other demons in the game and clash like shit.
>>321414852
Peace is still analogous to Law and Anarchy to Chaos, it's just a different kind.
Also, Law Walter's name?
GASTON
A
S
T
O
N
Also he's Navarre's brother
>>321414852
Yeah, but each route has you working with one side in order to achieve that, at least from what I can tell.
>>321414685
I like Napeas art in IV a little better because it gives her nicer legs
>>321415048
Amemiya really likes random asymmetry. It bothers me.
>>321413972
i fell like i shouldnt find that so cute but god damn i do
>Flynn shown in the middle next to possible final bosses
I can't wait to kill Flynn to make Isabeau lose her shit so i can't kill her too.
>>321415130
I don't want to use the a-word family.
>>321414228
now were getting somewhere
>>321415247
*Can
Shit, i have Christmas's hangover
Finished SMT 4 last week (I stopped halfway due to school back in 2013 and started a new file when Final was announced) and I found Lucifer's new design ugly as fuck. Emanciated cancer patient.
Even after all the changes I still dislike the new art direction.I'll buy it anywayHope it's better than IV.
>>321415054
>Gaston pretends Navarre never existed
A good man.
>>321415391
Who the fuck wants to be related to Navarre?
>>321415275
I mean, there's asymmetry and then there's "okay so I want to make sure nothing is lined up
>one side of Lilith's head has horns
>the other is feathery shit?
>has a womanly eye on one side of her face
>other side is a blue demon eye
>one side has bug mandibles and a wing
>other side is some ribcages and a gnarled bird claw
JUST STOP
>>321414929
There is no proper pennangalan,and there are many gods left, Huitzilopochtli when??
>this epic is not sweet
A new demon. Chironup Kamui, a minor Ainu fox spirit.
>>321415473
>can't understand basic "two sides of the same coin" design
>>321415535
I think is a line from a song.
>>321415578
how are dmeon horns and weird feathery hair shit on opposite sides of the head two sides of the same coin
Here, I fixed Lilith
>>321414685
>tfw no porn
>>321415232
>he uses the most powerful demons in the compendium from your old save
>>321415716
forgot my image
>>321415578
Lilith already fulfills a dichotomy by having feminine features intertwined with that of a demonic spider thing. Nice torso attached to spider legs, or a feminine face with a monstrous lower jaw. You don't need to go overboard with it.
>>321415826
I never realized Napaea had a nice thigh gap. I would say she has a cuter face here too. Probably the lips.
>>321415675
look at the picture I responded to, then say that again
In a old interview about SMTIII Kaneko said he envisioned Lucifer as a demon that has as many appearances as he has wings. So now with him gone let's sum it up
>Angel
>Demon
>Old man
>Boy
>Young man
>Young woman
Holy shit he did it...
>>321415861
>female features with monster parts dichotomy
This IS my fetish.
>>321415546
It ainu me start playing.
>>321415790
Judging from some official art he seems to use the national defense divinities ,i wish what you say was true tho
>>321415952
And I wasn't originally talking about Merkabah's second form.
that has a plethora of it's own problems past the center of the split angel/demon face by having literally fucking whatever. Like Amemiya just kept adding more shit and thought "I think this needs more shit". There's even a little teeny tiny guillotine hanging out on the demon half.
>>321416101
What? just because he has the Masakado's katana?
>Isabeau is in it
that's all I need to know
day one buy
>>321416145
because it makes the most sense I guess.
>>321414685
kinda sucks she doesnt have nice thighs anymore
>>321416249
A best.
>>321416249
>He likes the monkey
She is flat, even the new girl, who is suppose to be younger than her, has more boobs and her haircut sucks.
>>321414929
Mohammad
>>321416378
>le monke meme
>>321416442
>>321410834
Is that really Flynn? He looks even more gay than usual.
It's about time SMT got edgy again.
Anyone know what the dlc is?
I'm loving the new cutscene style, looks like a comic book
>>321416782
It's called manga you baka gaijin.
>>321410834
So if Nanashi is considered a God-killer? How does he compare to the Demi-Fiend?
>>321416996
They are basically the same: human empowered by edgy...i mean, demon power.
>>321416996
Dadga gives him demonic power. He's the new Demi-Fiend.
>day 1 dlc
not sure if want
>>321416996
I'd rank him in the same tier.
>>321413142
Can this even be considered false-flagging anymore?
>>321417514
That's Neo-Atlus for you, m8.
>>321417514
>DLC is just some accessories
Big deal.
>>321416623
it's a costume of your mom
>>321417732
Probably a trap like the White Samurai pre order DLC
>Woah this set is awesome, not too powerful and only is weak to ice
>A horde or Yeti appears
>>321410834
Flynn is cute CUTE!
No mainline SMT fighting game.
mfw
I hope the localization's as fast as SMT4's was.
>>321418064
Armor didn't mean shit in SMT IV since there was no defense stat. So really the only armor worth wearing was the classic Demonica
>>321418237
I feel bad for Europe.
>>321414038
>smt
>not weeb garbage
>>321418237
Post YFW you don't live in Europe.
>>321418483
His demons look a bit different
>>321410834
Nu demifiend is really starting growing on me I'm starting to like him to the point of being only below Raidou, Demifiend and Flynn
>>321418483
Yup, this the artstyle of Johnathan's manga, i guess those mangas will be important for FINAL.
>>321414684
>also uses old geezer Oberon
HOYHOYHOY, Merry Christmas anons.
>>321418508
Who cares when you've got cfw?
>>321419162
"CFW"? what the fuck that means?
>>321419249
Come Fuck the White
>>321419123
I just wish they'd make sprites for Nocturne Thor already.
Can I date demon samurai loli?
>>321419596
You can die for her.
>>321419665
Alice is in this game?
>>321419824
Of course.
>mfw 450 demons
>>321419374
>not wanting SMTI thor
I dunno, I like 3d thor's Helmet, but his clothes I dislike, I prefer the fur and torso armour Thor has.
But Devil Summoner one honestly isnt that great clothing wise.
>>321418237
I wonder if there will be a Travis Bickle hairstyle to use.
>>321415963
>Cancer Alien
>(better)Black cancer alien with red eyes
>cancer alien with wings and Hoy-tumor arm
>School girl
>school boy
>Hoy
damn.
>>321418483
>>321412365
Where did you find these? SMT has a card game now?
>>321420265
Also a secretary.
>>321410834
oh man the music is excellent
>>321418508
>>321418313
I wanna get an N3DS, and with ZE3 likely being digital only in Europe aswell, I'll probably just get a US system
I shan't be fooled again
>>321418565
Most unlucky 4 him
>>321420685
Is this NINE or IMAGINE?
>>321421235
IMAGINE
>>321420384
>now
>>321419249
Custom firm ware ie piratable and no region locking
>>321420862
>ZE3 likely being digital only in Europe
Literally pulling this out your ass. VLR wasn't digital only, why would the next game be?
>>321414685
It's actually worse.
>>321419885
>four demons per level
>watcher still won't be brought back
>>321415391
NO ONE LIES LIKE GASTON!
CUTS FAMILY TIES LIKE GASTON!
>>321421560
Have you followed any of the ZE3 hype at all
Would you like me to spoonfeed you a source
Here you go
http://nintendoeverything.com/rising-star-not-publishing-zero-escape-3-in-europe-but-3ds-announcements-coming/
You can go shave your back now
>might have to kill Flynn
Aw shit, I don't wanna kill the autistic samurai
>>321422393
>not wanting to kill your friends.
Have you considered that the SMT series might not be for you?
>>321422393
Flynn was an asshole though.
>>321422379
I read that ages ago. So where does it say digital only? The only thing worth noting is that they aren't publishing it in Europe.
It's a pretty big jump to say that means digital only anon.
>>321418246
I wore the Demon Rider DLC armor.The demon the armor is modeled after is pretty cool too
>>321414053
He only made it worse with this shitty 12 year old pandering "OMG SO EVIL!!" art style wihout an ounce of subtlety to it.
>>321423223
You can't be serious.
>>321423373
How the hell am I not serious? Look at this trash and its "Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor" edgy shit expression. It's even got fucking red eyes for fuck's sake. It's cringeworthy.
>>321422914
I read that it'd be digital only but cannot find an exact citation. ZE3 wiki states "digital only, release date unknown." I don't know what else to tell you
>>321423517
Nigger.
It's Lucifer.
It's SMT.
Can't wait for yet another gimped entry on the series due to shitty hardware, terrible out of place sprites, colliding art styles with no sense of cohesion with even more spikes now, and once again difficulty that drops off a cliff very early and no immediate access to hard mode to pander to casuals.
So excited!
>>321423223
But he is literally Lucifer?
>>321423223
I dunno anon, it looks better than shitty base cancer patient alien lucifer.
It's because the source is shite compared to Kaneko's Lucifer.
>>321423657
>Colliding Art Styles
Reminds me of how Kaneko's old art for demons weren't changed by Strange Journey.
>>321423517
メリークリスマス! to you too, bud.
>>321413142
>>321423580
Plus it had that "Brightest one who fell motif", not generic satan with horns. The design is not too bad given how Lucifier is a fallen angel
>>321423775
No need to change what's perfect.
>>321423937
It's funny you say that because all it's missing are horns to complete the generic "MWAHAHAHAHA" evil look.
>>321418572
>dat clover symbol on his hand
i bet he browses /x/ to talk about demons n shit
Ok SMT fags I want to start the serie, is soul hacker a good start point ?
I don't like Nozomi's new outfit, looks like gatchaman or something.
>>321424603
It's a good game, but I'd say no. Try IV, Nocturne, or DDS if you're just starting.
>>321424254
>perfect
>>321424349
So like most interprets of lucifer is dark skinned angel guy with horns and red eyes.
>>321424730
Thanks
>>321418508
Being Europe is sufferingYo--kai Watch never
>>321425423
Don't worry m8, it's kinda bad
>>321415054
HOLD UP
Is there a Chaos Johnathan?
>>321413320
Art of demonic gene >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>art of prayers
>>321423775
I for one like the cancer patient lucifer. He's like an empty husk who's lost everything after his fall.
>>321414346
Will he unleash his Specium Beam on you as his ultimate attack?
>>321418237
I hope so too. Final is looking fucking amazing. if we get it in May or so i'd be really happy.
We got record breaker really fast after nips for it, so I have hope.
>>321423657
thanks for sharing
>>321410834
>2016
>joining forces with filth lawfags
I better have a choice in the matter...
At least these new characters have cool designs.
>>321424719
new outfit? It's basically her old outfit, except she has art this time around.
She's best girl now. She was also best girl in iv.
>>321424349
compare lucifer to the angels in smt4
it fits
>>321426410
>Nozomi
>new
I honestly wish I was more hyped for this.
There better be a shit ton of new content, I'm not trying to play IV with a new story.
>>321410834
how the fuck did they managed to fix Lucifer without changing his design from IV?
seriously give the man who did this all the awards
>excited for this
>but never finished SMTIV because of the 1 million sidequests you have to do for the neutral ending
Fuck, I wish I got chaos or law first try instead.
>>321423773
He just wants David Bowie Lucifer
Doi's designs are really good.
Hope they keep him for future smt games.
What has kaneko been doing though?
I miss his style
>>321426569
I dont remember seeing her in SMTIV.
>>321426748
Neutral in 4 is just silly. I did Law first then neutral much later.
>>321410834
Am I going to have to kill all of them now?
>>321426926
He's becoming one with the flowers
>>321427007
You must not have done the side shit.
>>321427007
Her face makes me so angry.
I can't wait to kill her.
>>321427007
Damn nigga, did you do ANY sidequests?
![C_United2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7MZfZO3.jpg "C_United2[1].jpg")
>>321427007
Then you are retarded or never did a single sidequest in the entire game.
>>321427007
Did you not do any sidequests? You're required to meet her on the neutral route.
>>321427007
She was a sidequest exclusive character. You probably just forgot about her because she didn't have an actual character portrait until now.
>>321427007
fucks sake dude, she's the face of this games sidequests
Looks like Nozomi is still best girl, too bad she leaves(dies?) and becomes Danu.
>>321426410
Is Nozomi going to be anything other than a useless sack of shit in this game?
>>321427135
I did some sidequests and only remember her as the girl in the quest about the film.
How many sidequests was she involved in?
>>321423552
Well I'm a UK fag and have it preordered on Amazon UK already so I'll just wait to see what happens I guess
Who cares about Nozomi.
Toki best girl.
>>321427379
She's the team mentor so she probably does as much as Hope did in SMTIV, so no.
>>321427007
Nozomi best girl
So happy we can finally put a face to the sprite
>>321427445
5 or 6ish. She's the NPC you interact with the most in sidequests and you're required to do her quests in neutral.
>That Newly Redrawn Finn
>>321426614
>how the fuck did they managed to fix Lucifer without changing his design from IV?
by Just drawing him better?
I felt sorry for him when I fought him his face screams "help"
>>321427492
Gaean scum
>>321427007
I hope Asahi isn't forced to be with you for whatever path you take. Hopefully we are allowed to kill off characters we don't like. That being said I want to like her but what I have seen so far of her is pretty meh.
I swear to god if they don't fix skill inheritance.
Medusa doesn't clash with the art style anymore but I still think her pants are stupid
>>321426614
Doi is a great artist.
There's nothing particularly wrong with the guest designs per say. The problem with them is the inconsistent art style and the lack of polish.
Medusa for example is literally copied from a marker drawing into the game. Doi kept the same design but redrew it professionally.
He did the promo art for IV which is the only time he got to actually draw demons. And of course they look good
>>321427823
Nothing you can do about it. The designs themselves have to stay roughly the same, the only thing Doi can do is make them a little more presentable.
>>321427786
In what way?
>>321427135
to be fair, Nozomi was like some random sidequest girl who didn't even have a character portrait. So nobody would think of her as super important
also
>ASURA SMIRKED
NOZOMIIIIIII
>>321427910
She was right when she said she couldn't win by herself. She only has the two damages types he's immune to.
>>321426748
The only one that puzzled me was the four kings one. Then I figured the places I needed to visit were literally just the four corners of the map
I haven't played any SMT's, but why do they still use those 2d sprites as enemies? Is it just a throwback at this point or some other reason?
>>321427981
The fight is literally Nozomi going out of her way to make Asura kill you. You'd have an easier time if she didn't participate at all. It's like Minotaur and Hoy
>>321427901
Do I look like a game designer?
all I know is IV was too easy because of the whisper mechanic/inheritance
>>321410834
>Protag is voiced by Hiro Shimono
FUCKING DROPPED
>>321427786
Are you referring to how broken it was? If so then affinities seem to be their attempt at fixing it since it will make certain skills less effective on certain demons.
>>321428052
Atlus is cheap.
>>321410834
The MC design is such a downgrade from flynn.WHY GODDAMIT!
>>321427829
did you know that Lucifer's second form isn't supposed to have the DIE CIS SCUM lips?
>>321428006
Its not that the sidequests themselves are hard or confusing, its that the overworld makes me want to kill myself. So many blocked off places, endless random encounters, and its super disorienting. To top it all off there's no proper map. If I need to get to a specific place I have to bumble around that abomination until I find it.
>>321428097
Hiro Shimono is my favorite male VA. I really like his voice for some reason.
>>321427901
Not him, but it made a really easy game even easier. It was incredibly easy to make a demon who's null to all but an element or two and don't even get me started on Demon Whisper
>>321427786
Affinity will keep you from having a demon from having all elements and shit.
A demon that's clearly healing inclined will have high healing affinity. icey demons will of course have high ice affinity and probably low fire affinity.
There's also going to be a lot of unique skills I think. King frost has Royal Mabufula
>>321428221
It takes a while to get used to,but damn nig you're in the endgame already and it's literally Tokyo which has been featured in a bunch of Japanese RPGs, just with some roadblocks. I didn't even do the sidequest that unlocked the flying ship you could use to get around
>>321427330
Just like jonathan died and became merkabah, and yet he's back for FINAL
>>321428410
>you're in the endgame already
true, but I still dont remember where ANYTHING is. It means I have to walk through every poison and random encounter infested part of the map to find where I'm supposed to go
>flying ship
u wot?
>>321428362
>A demon that's clearly healing inclined will have high healing affinity. icey demons will of course have high ice affinity and probably low fire affinity.
Good shit, Atlus. Good shit.
>>321428501
He's still a part of Merky.
Walter is still a part of Lucy.
>>321428052
It's cheaper and allows them to include more demons in the game than usual. 450+ unique demons wouldn't really be feasible unless they resorted to palette and model swaps like they had to do with Nocturne.
>>321428501
Lucifer's arm is pregnet too (I checked) but Hoy is still around
>>321428576
There's a quest where you resurrect Amaterasu and you get an airship for it.
With zero exposure, is 4 a good place to start?
What can I expect in terms of gameplay and choices?
>>321428576
>u wot?
Go to all the shrines and save all the lesser Gods.
Amateratsu gives you a magic carpet.
>>321428006
I fucking hate those niggas, thanks for the Hint about the locations brah
>>321428912
>>321429032
cool, that might help, thanks.
I hope SMTIV Final has a goddamn proper map this time
>>321428221
Get Estoma sword. I think Okuninushi learns it. Having it active makes any demon that touches you on the world map vanish.
>>321428956
Yes.
Choices will determine which route you wind up on. Just answer questions honestly. Gameplay is decent, but there are some glaring flaws (mainly because of smirk and a lack of a defense stat) so the game can be balls' busting hard in the first dungeon but then it'll drop off. Leave before you get spoiled.
>>321429154
holy shit, I thought it didnt work in the overworld.
Thanks anon, time to finish this game.
>>321429217
I miss those threads
>>321428221
>no proper map
The map is literally of Tokyo. We have maps of Tokyo in Google maps.
>>321429128
A proper map for SMT IV already exists.Google Maps.
>>321429603
>>321429682
bitch im american does it look like I have any idea what tokyo looks like AT ALL? I want a decent in game map, not to have to use google all the time
YHVH BATTLE CONFIRMED:
>10 Battle – f8 神に仇成すもの
Which I think says "To become god's enemy"
From the OST track names.
http://megaten4f.jp/topics/618/
>>321428597
>Jonathan is most likely assimilated to merky
>He will start being facist
>MC will be called Common Scum by best boy
Ouch.
![[Nutbladder]_Kaiji_S2_-_06_[E8CEF9A4].mkv_snapshot_23.28_[2011.05.11_18.35.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hI4YzgP.jpg "[Nutbladder]_Kaiji_S2_-_06_[E8CEF9A4].mkv_snapshot_23.28_[2011.05.11_18.35.48].jpg")
>>321410834
>this awful low budget asset rehashing garbage
Feels good knowing Atlus don't give shit about smt. Even when it comes to 2D dungeon crawling Etrian Odyssey clearly gets more love and budget.
>>321429731
>not knowing what Tokyo looks like on a map
What the fuck are you doing? I'm American also.
>>321430060
Where's EO5 though?
>>321430227
NX Launch Title
>>321430118
Never in my life have I had the need to know where Ginza or Shibuya is in Tokyo.
>>321430428
>>321430469
>>321430428
Stop this, the NX doesn't exist
>>321429739
>YHVH BATTLE CONFIRMED
That was a given ever since we saw him on that stream, anon
>>321429739
Rest of the OST names is here
http://personacentral.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv-final-original-soundtrack-details-autograph-contest/
>>321430513
Smh senpai what the fuck.
>>321429739
ARE YOU READY
TO GO FULL-ON CHAOS REDPILL?
Do I play Nocturne, IV or Strange Journey first? Final is looking pretty sick, but I'm not sure if I should play IV as my first.
>>321420384
http://personacentral.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv-final-tcg-collaboration-with-last-chronicle-announced/
>>321430828
Since Final is just gonna be IV but better, play Nocturne.
>>321430828
IV is perfectly fine as a first.
>>321430828
IV is the easiest so its probably the best for beginners
>>321430828
Nothing wrong with playing IV first since Final is just around the corner. Either that or Nocturne would be a good place to start though so just go with whichever looks the most appealing to you.
>>321430657
WE DID?
>>321429739
Don't forget the Asahi track. Dead as shit confirmed.
