>>321352558
MGS4 was good you tasteless nigger.
>>321352558
4 was a clusterfuck, but it still had a satisfying conclusion and actual boss fights
>>321352558
nothing is a bigger disappointment than OP
V by far. The game just got worse as it went on.
4 while retarded was at least an entertaining ride the whole way through.
>>321352704
What the fuck did you call me, you little shit?
>>321352740
>but it still had a satisfying conclusion
No it didn't.
>>321352558
V of course. Sure the core gameplay was better, but the story was even worse and the lack of real, fun boss battles absolutely kills it.
V but at least it wasn't as bad as FO4.
Clearly the biggest dissapointment was Peace Walker
>>321352881
At least it was finished.
>>321352558
V. While MGS4 was a nanomachine filled hell it still pressed a lot of right buttons for fans of the series, had at least a couple of great boss fights, and an ending that, while some don't like, still had plenty of emotion behind it and gave a happy end for a guy who had nothing but bad ends.
V however had little to no plot and what was there was either butchered for tapes that took you out of the moment due to their optional nature, or was about vocal chord parasites that were the origin of everything human, oh and what made the Cobra's powerful. No bosses, copy paste enviroments, repetitive nature that bordered on MMO tier, and Venom was a mute that wouldn't even be able to fool a child let alone Zero into thinking he's Big Boss, yet for some reason everyone buys it because "lol narrative don't think so hard"
Quiet had too much importance, returning characters were completely out of character, and the game had no ending.
But it's ok because Tuxedo and Boss suit DLC.
>>321352881
at least you knew it was the ending
V because denuvo
>>321352740
>a satisfying conclusion
How about A conclusion?
>>321353113
>main-ops that actually flow well and don't feel like side-ops
>side-ops that put you in varied and unique situations rather than just extracting everything
>boss fights that weren't absolutely terrible
>no helicopter waiting
>no waiting an hour just for something to develop
>no huge open world with fucking nothing in it
>multiplayer co-op
>amanda
Peace Walker > V easily
4 had shit story AND gameplay, 5 just had shit story.
>>321353316
Fuck off shitposter, 60 dollars is pretty cheap
>>321353426
4 had gameplay?
Only good thing was the final boss fight in 4.
5 was just an exaggerated Peace Walker.
>>321353426
4's gameplay didnt suck. it had shit stages that couldnt show off the gameplay. gameplay was great and there were not enough warzones to sneakthrough or ways to use them efficiently
>>321353451
>60 dollars is pretty cheap
>>321353426
This. V's gameplay is by far superior. I loved that one op where I went to the place and extracted the thing. Crazy how after doing it 500 times its still amazing and not repetitive at all. I also loved all those hours spent waiting for helicopters.
>>321352558
MGS4: retarded story and no gameplay
MGSV: no story and good gameplay
They're both pretty disappointing.
>>321352558
MGSV because it had a shitload of potential that got squandered by being pushed out the door too soon.
>>321353402
The things I miss most from PW are
>the vehicle battles which were hard (at first)
>less grinding
>co op
>higher sense of progression - because honestly the fulton launchers and mines made everything so much easier whereas your kit in MGS V stays pretty much the same
MGS V had to sacrifice some more ridiculous elements like tranqing helicopter pilots and kaz in a speedo because of the tone of the game
>>321353907
>MGS5
>good gameplay
Don't get me wrong there were some interesting mechanics but the game shot itself in the foot by going open world.
>>321353426
4 had better gameplay mechanics for sneaking than V. The issue is the level design in 4 completely threw all that out the window after act 2. If the whole game revolved around sneaking in the middle of an armed conflict it would have been fucking amazing.
>>321352558
What was so bad about 4, again?
>>321354229
>world design = gameplay
nice
>>321352740
>it still had a satisfying conclusion
>>321354543
He's not wrong. The world design shapes the gameplay and by making it open world that had to alter the mechanics to fit what they had planned.
>>321352558
V by a fucking mile. 4 gave me everything I wanted from a sequel, and more, and even more stuff I didn't even want. In hindsight, 4 has many problems, but being a disappointment it was not.
>>321354714
>tfw no Riki Oh game
>>321352558
Both were great but 4 was the only one slightly disappointing.
>>321352740
>>321353274
>>321352903
>le V had no bosses maymay
TPP's bosses were few in number but they were far better than any of the ones in 4 or PW. Hell, they're better than many of the bosses in 2 and 3.
MGSV 4
Story development
Character development
Gameplay
Still has the codec
Proper controls layout
Platforming
Good level design
Varying levels
Multiple Bimoes
Multiple enemies
Multiple Bosses
Atmosphere
Actually a full game with a complete ending
MGSV:
Literally none of the above
Decent gameplay
Which do you fucking think was better for fuck sake?
MGSV which was 90% of PC's first metal gear game or the last actual Metal Gear game in the franchise which was 4?
Fuck MGSV and the new fags who ride that garbage unfunished generic AAA muh explosionz piece of shit game. Fuck them.
>>321352558
V
Kojima hated making 4 and only made it as a "fuck you" to everyone who didn't understand his message at the end of MGS2. He understood that most gamers are retarded stoners so he made a Michael Bay tier game that was dumbed down just enough so that casuals would understand what was going on and think that it was a deep game.
V on the other hand, was a game the Kojima was actually excited about making. In every interview he appeared happy to be promoting it, claiming it was his magnum opus and a true work of art. It was supposed to be the missing link to complete the story and tie everything together. But no, it was an incomplete failure with stale characters and a forgettable and irrelevant story that tried to be like a zombie-themed TV series.
>>321354714
>BB stops Snake from killing himself, reminding him he's too good for that
>then goes on about a bunch of balls
>kills Zero, removing his influence (at the time before it was retconed in V)
>killed himself so he can't be abused by power mad, or just mad people anymore
>made peace with his son, realized he should have accepted Snake, died with a smile
>Snake gave up smoking and lived out the rest of his days with his best bro and adopted daughter
>not best end for Dave
Just leave.
And the Zelda cycle strikes again.
>playing video games for the story
4 was the worse game. Its like 6/10
V is straight up 9/10
>>321355230
This desu
>>321355052
>Several Skull Unit battles
>Sally
>Collection of Tanks at the end
>better than Crying Wolf, Laughing Octopus, Ocelot, REX vs RAY, The End, Volgin, The Fury, Olga, and Solidus
You call those boss fights in V? only Sally was a real boss and although great, was still worse than REX vs RAY.
You all for dragging this shit out for over 3 months. Fucking stop, you're more annoying than a hangover
>>321355314
>Take these random characters
>Make them POSE LIKE JOJO EPIC REFERENCE
This shit needs to fucking stop.
Picture related is a GOOD way of referencing Jojo
>>321355427
>wahh why du u guyz tlk abt wut i dnt wunt 2 tlk abt
>"gameplay is always the most important factor!"
>4>5
what. mgs fan base is the worst.
V.
I can go back and play 4 at any time knowing my progress hasn't been fucked over by grind monkies.
>>321355084
Go watch a movie, you clearly don't like games more than stories
I hear the new star wars is p good
>>321354714
Zero and Big Boss misunderstanding The Boss's true speech was the stupidest plot twist I heard
I would say 5, but it gave us the weird ass Joosten-obsessed crowd for a while (hell, there's still a pretty active board dedicated to her on 8ch) which was pretty funny.
A shame I barely used /v/ while I was playing through it due to spoiler paranoia.
>>321352558
>Get spotted in MGSV
>Everyone magically knows where you are
>>321355574
MGS4's gameplay had a lot more depth and little tricks, but the level layout didn't take full advantage of them and some people went through the entire game without using even half of what's there. MGSV sacrificed depth for simplicity so you saw everything Venom had to offer in the first 3 hours.
>>321352558
I wasn't into the series at the time 4 came out, so V.
>>321355964
If only we had known that there was no story to spoil.
Open world killed the MGSV. There is no debate.
>>321356005
Really V didn't make great use of the open world either. Missions were usually confined to small sections and side ops only happened at specific points on the map.
V by faar
Anyone who says otherwise didn't own ps3 lmao
>>321352558
MGS4 is a complete adventure with climax and an spectacular ending.
MGSV has a beginning, it tries to build up into something huge, but it amounts to nothing, after Episode 1, the story is pretty much finished and rest is just filler to tie the loose ends. No climax, no conclusion. It's a sandbox game with simple story shoved in it.
>>321356631
I agree completley. Only a few missions forced you to go to one location then another, most were just happy putting you at random slav tent base 4 and be done with it, then Africa happened and we were all living at that damned airport. There's no point in offering any kind of depth to the controls when the entire game plays worse than GZ's Camp Omega.
>>321352558
V. MGS4 at least build momentum and it actually has pay off (actually several ones) V barely does anything with the momentum it builds and its ending is completely anti climatic.
4 is better in every way except amount of gameplay. The gameplay, story, music, cut scenes, charm, and even the graphics (if we got a PC port with upresed graphics that is) are all better in 4.
>>321355463
There is never a good way to reference Jojo because Jojo is the MLP of anime.
>>321355819
There is a place for everything, MGS was never the best stealth game gameplay wise but it was among the best thanks to the unique approach to storytelling. V has nothing of that the characters are like castrated version of their former (and future) self. Shit made no fucking sense. And the big twist of the game was completely fucking pointless.
MGS4 is a very good looking hooker that grabs your cock and slowly jerks it untile you cum, talks way too much but she actually gets the job donw.
MGSV is a decent looking hooker that starts twisting into strange positions but never bring you to orgasm, she is also slightly retarded.
>>321352558
Although I'd say MGS4 is worse, TPP.
>>321353113
Shit taste, mate.
>>321357342
suck my dick.
>>321357342
kill yourself
>>321358403
>>321358403
Yeah you would want another man to suck your dick after reading that smut.
at least MGS4 had a redeemable ending.
V was just shallow as hell
>>321358503
>reading books
i only watch books.
4 was far more disappointing because at that point in time MGS was still good so I was hyped as fuck.
Since the series had devolved into mediocrity by the time V came out, I wasn't expecting much, so I wasn't really disappointed. Only an idiot would have been hyped for TPP. It's like they say, you fool me once...
/>>321355314
>V
>9/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T504qClMEhc
>>321352558
MGSV i just Peacewalker 2.0 and not true MGS
>>321352558
MGSV, not like it matters anymore. MGS is dead now
>>321352558
5, easily. 4 was a complete mess and criminally short, but it at least managed to remind me what I loved so much about the series.
5 managed to be a much longer game but only by being really repetitive and removing almost everything special about the series in the first place. The gameplay was improved but not enough over 4 that it actually made up for losing everything else.
Why do people treat snake like he's big bosses son? They're the same fucking person. It's literally him
MGS4
>bad map design
>best gameplay in the series, evolution of previous MGS
>too many guns, makes it into a shooter
>retarded ending (in a bad way)
>hyped as the end of Snake's story, and acts as such
>good nostalgia pandering in Shadow Moses, bad everywhere else
MGSV
>good gameplay, but very different from old MGS
>bad map design (only small areas with stuff you do in, in between areas may as well not exist)
>split into two purchases
>hyped as Kojima's magnum opus, apes his real opus with a reverse of it's twists
>fucks up the plot of the series, exists as a weird side story to explain a not-plothole and make it overly complex
MGSV by far
V was a bigger disappointment. Howerer 4 is worse.
>>321352558
None of the MGS games are any good desu.
>>321352558
V. By far. At least mgs4 innovated in a lot of ways. Came out on a new format that wasn't as limiting so there was more space for content, which there was plenty of. V lacks content.
They were both really good tbqh faam
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1kQtcabR2f3
>>321360705
>They're the same fucking person. It's literally him
Except he's not? one of the plot strings in MGS4 was that while Snake is a clone, his DNA is just different enough for him to be his own man and that's why FOXDIE didn't affect him, different genetic markers. Then you have life experiences and different experiences shape people in different ways.
>>321360847
>bad map design in MGS4
nigga you listen to the weekly or whatever developer podcasts? Those were goat
>>321352558
At least you play V.
