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Is this a meme game? Is it actually good?
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Is this a meme game? Is it actually good?
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>>321270206
It's okay. A huge time sink that can be a lot of fun. Combat is convoluted and slow as balls, though.
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>>321270350
Yeah I'm tempted but the turn based game play isnt something I enjoy so I am a bit hesitant. I really enjoyed Stronghold Crusader, would this be similar?
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Its fun but hard to get into a multiplayer match.
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It's really good if you're looking to kill time
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a friend gifted it to me and i decided to play it a little just to be polite, but i ended up with 70+ hours in it
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Think the term meme game is being thrown around a touch too lightly, lately.

This is not a meme game, and it's not bad either, but it's no civ 4.
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>>321270206
>$17.50 on sale
The fuck, it's only £5 in Bongistan
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>>321271795
OP chose an old image for some reason
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>>321270206
Fun singles player game for sure.
As for multiplayer, it's high risk high reward. It's really hard to find people dedicated to playing an entire Quick game with you without the multiplayer system or connection fucking up, but if you can finally find the one game where it doesn't fuck it, you'll have a blast.

I only have one true game that was good which I ended up winnin, gif related. (I'm red and green) Ton of fun, and it was with around 3 other /v/ idiots, two AI.
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>>321270206
Hearts of Iron or Europa Universalis would be better if you want deep mechanics, and Total War is a good one if you just want to go to war. Civ is what you get if you don't care for war but don't want particularly deep economy/resource mechanics either.
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>>321272332
It's not old, I'm in straya
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My friend gifted it to me for my first civ a few years ago, I've put 400 hours into it as well as bought every expansion and bit of dlc
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>primary installment of established series
>meme game
You should buy 800 copies.
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>>321272364
How does multiplayer work? Do players take their turn simultaneously?
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>>321270206
It's great, if you get it with all the expansions. The mods are pretty dope. I love playing games where you get shit like the Fire Nation attacking the Greeks early on, Bevis and Butthead spreading Satanism to Gothem City, and then Big Boss going nuclear in the endgame.
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>>321272364
Why are you red and green?
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>>321272427
You litterally need autism to get through those games
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>>321270206

Its a time sink with the illusion of being good. "I spent 10 hours in a single game, it must be good!"
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>>321270549
>I really enjoyed Stronghold Crusader, would this be similar?
totally different
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>>321272451
Moot really wasnt joking about Australians being a blight.
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>>321270206

It depends, do you have friends?
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>>321272551
There are three modes simultaneous, sequential and hybrid
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>>321272640
Atleast I'm not shitposting...
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>>321272551
Depends, but the usual is a hybrid. Simultaneous until war, in which the players take turns. War takes long as shit though, but are pretty damn tactical pvp battles. You can change it though, like >>321272672 said.


>>321272586
because it's christmas
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>>321270206

No it's not a meme. It's quite inbetween fighting and managing cities. The complete pack is pretty nice. The base game had it's flaws.

But Civ5 Complete is pretty much the comfiest game of all times and you can spend hours in it.

Also, somewhat memegame, but only for the fun stories.

>be apan, comfy as I am I want to go for peace and cultural victory
>have chill korea alliance dude, we trade much and help each other out
>have somewhat problems with neighbours because I send them my missionaries and prophets
>germany dude is somewhat annoying at the beginning but we manage to get an alliance
>germany attacked by egypt, help chill german guy out - eradicate egypt

>be now known as warmonger and looked down on
>still get my cultural and religious victory

kek
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>>321272597
>>321272427
I've tried Crusader Kings 2 but couldn't get past the mid stage of the game when I usually get my shit kicked in by 100,000 point mongol armies.
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>>321272745
>meme game
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>>321272597
Nah, they're just a massive pain in the dick to learn. Your first 100 hours into any series will be spent playing tutorials, reading tooltips, and watching/reading guides if you still don't get it. After that they pretty much all open up to you & you can go nuts conquering the world.

But like I said, Civ is better if you don't want to deal with that or the war focus of Total War. It's just worse in every aspect if you're willing to put up with the entry/want war.
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>>321270206
Buy Endless Legend instead
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>>321272753
I'm asking if you were controlling two civs while they were playing only one each.
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>>321270206
Endless Legend is superior, it actually has meaningful differences between factions, as well as combat that isn't garbage.
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>>321272896
I did and it does not really pull me in they way Civ games usually do. What am I doing wrong?
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It's good ,but it suffers from the Federation Flaw - No matter how much diplomacy you engage in, no matter how great you are at trading, no matter how much of a pacifist you would like to play as you WILL always need a significant military strength or you will be wiped out.
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>>321273030
Try a different faction, or have a look at the custom faction options.
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>>321270206
i enjoyed it
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>>321272968
oh no, I'm controlling the civ that has the red land and the dark green dots aka the cities. only one civ.

AI were the green arabs that I conquered quickly (player quit as soon as it started), and the Shoshone brown that was a player until midgame. rest were real deal /v/idiots that played throughout the whole game.
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>>321273247
>Turn 2084
>Year 1757
What the fuck
Was this online??? Did other people go through this with you???
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>>321272896
Which one?
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>>321273310
Oh okay I was confused. Thanks for clearing that up
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>There are people in this very thread that don't know Aztecs are the best civilization
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>>321270549

For what it's worth, I never really liked turn based games that much either, but I have hundreds of hours into this shit.

Fucking addicting. Always fun exploring at the start of the game, trying to capture territory, get the edge with nice wonders n shit and just trying out all the different civ bonuses.

If you like strategy games to any extent, there's definitely a fuck ton of time you could put into it.
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>>321273397
Collection, since it has all the expansions.
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>>321272821
I haven't played Crusader Kings. But learning not to over extend while gobbling up resources is the biggest challenge in any of these types of games. Even Civ will see you getting your shit wrecked mid/late game if you spread out too far.
I usually try to ally with a slightly weaker nation & let them take the brunt of any attacks from hostile nations while I support them. Or make agreements with nations further out to piss off another & hopefully encourage a massive war between the big bads.
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>>321270206

>at a LAN party
>host wants to play Civ V
>buys me a copy and convinces me to play
>play the tutorial before the game
>game starts, total of six players
>I play as Germany
>my economy rapidly pulls ahead
>conquer everything
>not touched the game since

Really not my thing.
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>>321273443

>not just going picts and taking everyone out with holy warriors by late medieval
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As someone who just bought the game, what are some good beginner civs?
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>>321273650
India, make sure you build enough roads
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>>321273650


Arabia/Venice if you want money and diplomacy (cause diplomacy is basically real world you bribe people)
Mongols if you want war
Poland can actually into everything
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>>321273472
Well fuck it why not, thanks anon hope its good
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>>321272896
This desu.

Civ 5 is more casual and easier to get into/noob friendly, and thus more comfortable to play. The varied factions and faction-specific units really spice up gameplay quite a bit, too.

Endless Legends is a whole different animal. It's not as easy to get into, but if you persist then it can be quite rewarding. All of the factions have dramatically different gameplay, and the art+OST are beautiful, too.

Also note that Endless Legend has a bit of Warcraft 3's more micromanage-intensive hero gameplay incorporated into it. You'll need to manage their skill trees/attributes and equipment, etc.

Two very different games, but both are a lot of fun.
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>starts a civ thread
>does not post this pic


dont let it happen again
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>>321273650
Babylon, Poland, Shoshone.
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>>321273650
germans are easy mode early on. active the raging barbarians when building the map. then build one or 2 combat units right away and run around with them and get money and a huge army by sacking barbarian camps.
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>>321273907
ROLLAN
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>>321273351
Look on the scoreboard. Unless everybody named themselves after the appropriate leaders, they are all ai's. It's just single player with some wonky slow-ass rounds, probably a mod.
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The Civ V base game is fucking trash.

Civ V with its expansions is arguably the best Civ game.
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>>321273650
Probably Ethiopia.

You get a religion immediately because of stele, and you get a boost in war vs civs with more cities trying to bully you.
It's pretty easy mode to just cruise by and go with the flow.

although you need to decide on a victory.
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>>321273819
>filename
oial
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>>321273443
>Not going Babylon and going full isolationist turtle mode for 1000 turns
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What's the best way to play single player Civ 5? What type of setup is the most fun?

Can't decide how many civs there should be, or which map, or what sort of settings.
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>>321273909

Germans are fucking comfy. I usually neglect to build my army very big in most games and have a bunch of civs backstabbing me, but I played germans expect fucking world war 3, and basically got a game with no wars I didn't initiate because everyone didn't dare get on my bad side or not be ready for full defense against my armies.

wiped all the other civs off my continent then won by a cultural victory, just like the fuhrer intended
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>>321273973
>science
Nah I'll go to bed fuck you.
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>>321270206
good
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>>321273592
>>321274209
>Not sacrificing blood so that your gods remain strong and keep the sun in the heavens
>Allowing the world to end because you valued books and trinkets over the sun
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>>321274289
you're doing gods work anon
actually I kinda do the same in every civ game
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>>321274267
8 civs, continents or pangea, and default settings are the "standard" setup.

You can mess around with other settings as much as you want, though the AI will probably have a hard time of it.
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>>321274267

bigger maps with less players is a more comfy and relaxed game. You'll have less frustrating incidents of civs beating you out on wonders by a few turns with less civs, more space per civ means you won't have frustrating border incidents with people settling on resources you were about to take for yourself, and overall just less surprises.

Diplomacy is less interesting with less civs though, less people to jew around with and pit against each other.
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>Game is called Civilization
>Only human "civilization" is included

What the fuck kind of dev allows that to slide?
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>>321273907
gotta roll just for kicks
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>>321273907
rolling
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>>321273907
Playing R.E.D WW2 meme mod right now but when I'm done I'll play as who I get
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>>321272364
dat japan tho
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What are the hidden gems this time around?
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>>321270206
Gett Endless Legend instead, neo-Civ is a shit 4x.
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>>321272974
I disagree on the combat. It's more tedious.

Also EL feels like there's only one good/feasible victory.

Also I don't get your "meaningful differences", unless you confused CivV with Beyond Earth
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>>321274534
>civ·i·li·za·tion
>...
>the society, culture, and way of life of a particular area.

SO YOUZ BE SAYIN... WE WUZ CIVILIZATIONS N SHIIEEEET?
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>>321274732
sorry not into fantasy memes
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Beyond earth Rising Tides is pretty good. They fixed everything they removed.

Fucking stupid but they've added a lot of things that seem to be inspired from the modding workshop.
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>>321273907
rolling I guess
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>>321270206
Post yfw you don't have all the little dlc civs but got too much of the game to warrant buying complete edition
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>>321274749
YO HOL UP... HOL UP...


SO YOU BE SAYIN
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>>321273351
i like long marathon games
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>>321274669
dude was beast and ruthless. had the strongest military over there.

at the end me, poland, and japan banded together to beat Brazil who was rocking us with tourism. turns out, when we tried to invade him, he was also up there in science for defense.

in the end, I pretty much got the win using my city states and shit, with some support since everyone got distracted by Brazil. diplomacy win.
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>>321272597
gs games are only slightly harder to start playing while dorf fort is a lot harder to start playing.

Eu4 is easier than Civ5 once you get into it.
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>>321274875

korea is the only one really worth getting. Even then, they're just a different flavored babylon.

Vikings are fun to fuck around with on certain maps but the only thing they got going for them is two unique units that carry over all of their special promotions.
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>>321275059
i could probably literally get them off the workshop for free
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>>321274981
I like them as well. Its pretty much the same with beyond earth however after 1,500 turns the game tends to break things like hud.
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>>321275059
Spain and Maya are fun though.
hell polynesia is fun as well.
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>>321274423
MORE BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
MORE SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
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>>321274981
valkyrur where?
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>>321274108
Civ V even with expansions is poor compared to not using mods. So many balance problems with vanilla.

>>321274267
Download the CBP modpack which comes with more luxuries, Civ 4 diplomacy, and CSD mods in addition to patching and rebalancing the vanilla gameplay. It fixes things like:

>tall-tradition-rationalism strats being OP
>ranged units being your real fighters, while cavalry is garbage and melee is mediocre
>bland city states and how easy it is to buy them
>global unhappiness
>cities being so strong that a couple ranged units and a city can decimate the AI's army
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>>321275285
>>321275205
I dunno my hud works, but it's modded so one of the mods might be fixing the issue
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>tfw you cant stop playing korea, so op
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Is Brave new world worth it if I barely play this? I kinda want to give it another run but I've only played like 50h

It's cheap anyway but I don't know. And I don't really enjoy doing social-cience wins.
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>>321275413
Meh, I disagree. The popular mod is too... samey in application on changing the civs (THEY ALL MUST HAVE ONE UU UB!), and they want it to play all too much like IV forgetting that V works more on its own.
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>>321275219

mayans are a special DLC though, polynesia is interesting enough I guess, and I want to like spain, but I've never had much luck in getting a whole lot from world wonders.

Half of them end up in such inhospitable terrain they're worthless, and the other half are hidden away inside the borders of some shithole country and I don't discover them until I get satellites most of the time.
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>>321275535
Brave New World is amazing for non-military play, so it might be a waste for you senpai
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>>321275660

aren't a special DLC*
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>>321275660
I like using Spain in Terra, conquistadors go a long way in setting up a colony. and the new world has natural wonders.

by Maya, I meant Inca. which is a pretty OP civ.
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>>321273907
roll
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>>321270206
it's more shallow than civ 3 and 4, but it can still be enjoyable (especially now they removed stacks)
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>>321272364
There's a steam group called NQ (No Quitters) specifically setup for people who dont leave out on mp games on civ. The regulars I played with were really nice guys, although you do every once in a while get an assbandit who throws a shitfit when he realises he cant fulfill his win condition.
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>>321276335
holy shit I need to get in that group, thanks for the tip anon.
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>>321273907
ok
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>>321273907
rollangstones
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so are there no daily deals this christmas?

is everything on their maximum discount for the entire duration of the sale?
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>>321277373
wat
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>>321270206
buy civ 3, it was my first and will always be the best in my opinion. its not that hard to learn
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Why do people keep insisting Europa Universalis is complex?

It felt extremely shallow to me. It's like the total war campaign but slower and without the battles. I didn't feel any depth to it.
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>>321270206
It is only good with all the DLC. It gets pretty addicting.
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>>321272896
Now that is a meme game.
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>>321279467
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>>321270206
pretty neat game that you can play over and over again without getting fatigued since it's always different.
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>>321278934
It's the simplest grand strategy, considered the entry level among grand strategy players.

People who say it's complex are just casuals who think of StarCraft as the ceiling for strategy games.

Play Aurora.
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>>321272364
>tfw knowing all the civs by the colors seen in this gif
i've probably played this for too long...
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How dependent are you on the strengths of your civ?

Is it inordinately hard to win a victory that your civ isn't balanced for?
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>>321280574
For culture victory you want a civ that is somewhat geared towards it, other than that the difference between civs aren't all that big. Any civ can do any victory, culture is just a bitch once you start playing on immortal or deity.
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>>321272364
How do you make a timelapse of a civ game like this?
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>>321280864
Go to the 4th menu after the game and record the slider
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>>321278934

It's most definitely more complex than Civ and Total War combined, though it's the easiest and most beginner friendly grand strat.
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>>321280864
honestly don't know how to record into a gif, but you can look through a replay and see the graphs and shit. mess around with a replay, you can find it. tired atm so sorry for the shit response, it's definitely in there though.
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>>321273907
rolling yes
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>>321273907
rollroll
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>>321273907
rolling

also does anyone know what are some good steam mods
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>>321281074
>>321281117
cheers
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>>321281783
>Brasil
>Domination

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHEUHEUHEUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHEUHEHUEHEUHEUHUE
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>>321273907
roll
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>>321283327
>Alberto Barbossa
>Archipelago
It is like the game wants me to win.
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>>321273650
Babylon - any victory
Korea - Science
Huns - very early domination
Poland - free policies
Shoshone - easy land grab + ruin manipulation
Egypt - very early domination + easy wonders
Inca - lolhills lolroadmaitainence
England - Can own the sea as well as the land, flexible
Arabia/Mongolia - Strongest units in the game, get your starter techs, gun straight to Chivalry, get your horses online while making Chariot Archers just before you get Chivalry, win game because literally no one can stop you unless you fuck up your science (only pertains to Mongolia, Arabia will rape you either way)
Spain - lolwonders lolfreesettlers
Ethiopia - Best religious civ as well as best turtle civ once they get their unique unit.
Russia - lolproduction
Persia - loltributing lolgoldenagesforyears Spam their unique unit early on, tribute the fuck out of city states, bitch people around. No one will want to fuck with you unless they are the Huns (early on, that is). Prioritize Chichen Itza.

Those are the easy civs, there are some other good civs like China (Chu Ko Nu), Aztecs (Culture on kills, food gods), Zulus (great war civ, better Germany), Rome (Legions + great liberty civ), Maya (free great people once you research Theocracy), and Portugal (amazing if you can get your unique unit and abuse the fuck out of the gold shit without losing important tech time). The rest are either okay but not good at anything, garbage, or weaker versions of previously explained civs.
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You can buy it much cheaper on other websites, but yes it's good. Some people argue Civ4 is better but personally I always thought stacking units was fucking stupid.
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>playing with two friends
>start off on continent, I'm on a coast
>time passes, I'm trying to build up a coastal civ
>one friend is fighting a war with Arabia for a long time
>eventually manages to push Arabia back, friend starts working on his civ
>meanwhile Arabia is pushing towards me, meanwhile I'm dumb and my civ is plummeting
>lose all my money, losing land, no resources
>friend who fought Arabia is having a prosperous civ
>get an idea, give him a few cities in return for some stuff
>he didn't think it through, his happiness plummets, starts losing money
>give cities to Arabia, and a few other countries
>declare war on every single entity in the game
>create giant mess of cities and wars
>every starts fighting
>entire world starts becoming unhappy, shit is fucked
>we continue playing, world never recovers from my kikery
>fucking Arabia was still expanding by the end
tl;dr: I was a 3rd world civ who managed to plummet the entire planet into war and unhappiness, and ruined the game.
Yes, this game is fun.
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>>321273907
Fuck
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>>321273907
Easy Arab
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