Should I play this before the remake comes out?
I'd recommend it for the Materia system alone and even that's going to be mauled in the remake
>>321240609
Sure, why not
>should I blow the years I've spent recharging FF7 unfamiliarity before a new version comes out
Nah.
>>321241430
I've never played it to be honest. My friends really love it though.
>>321241430
>keeping yourself pure for Enix-sama
>>321240609
Actually, I'm not sure
You should definately play it at some point, the remake will never be able to replace it
You might end up disappointed by the remake when you play the original first.
Then again its going to take a loooong time until the remake is fully released and I think you'd have much more appreciation for the remake if you knew how it used to look.
I'd say play it.
>>321240609
Can someone clear something up for me. Is the Steam version really altered? I heard it was a lot different from the PS1 version and not just in graphics
>>321240609
Nah, it sucks. Steam punk can suck my dick.
Yes definitely. Then ignore the remake when it comes out and play the original again.
If you haven't played it, I think it's really good. Fun game all around, well written characters and dialogue. It's not a mature game for mature gamers, but if you can deal with JRPGs it's well worth your time.
>>321242241
It might have had retard and stuff changed, but the only difference was the music which they patched back to the original.
>>321242241
I believe there is a cheat mode where you can boost your stats or level up whenever you want, and achievements of course. Graphics are identical pretty much.
>>321242241
I don't know about the one on Steam, but the PC version's music sounds different from the PS version. They also cleaned up a few lines of dialogue.
>>321242438
> retard and stuff changed
Huh?
>>321242545
Cleaned up as in censored?
>>321240609
>>321242084
Sounds like I'm contradicting myself here, but basically:
The Remake will not replace the original
You should play the original either way
There's not much to be spoiled in the story anymore anyways so you won't lose any enjoyment with the remake when you play the original first
Play FF7: Go into the remake expecting it to be a more bombastic reimagining of the original and not a straight up 100% faithful replacement and you won't end up disappointed after finishing FF7.
>>321242241
Its a decent port. Keymapping is a little fucked but there was a tool that fixed it in a minute. Graphics and Sound are completely fine.
There's a bug that makes some people have permanently open mouths but it makes no real difference really, pic related will always look silly
>>321242589
Cleaned us as in that line previously said "This guy are sick".
>>321242084
>definately
underage/retard spotted
>>321241430
More like
>Should i play this good version before i play the version that will ruin it.
>>321242720
Ok, I was confused when the anon said
>retard and stuff changed
Did they remove the word retard or something?
>>321242742
more like non-native speaker but thanks for pointing it out
>>321242781
Not sure. I don't remember that line.
>>321242589
I've cleared it a handful of times now
What i want to do whenever i attempt it next time is to clear it in one sitting, which i've never done. One i pick up W-Item and exploit the glitch i would become pretty much invincible anyway, so it really wouldn't be that difficult, but i'd still expect about a 30(ish) hour playthrough.
>>321242896
What does it say now?
So should I emulate it or buy the steam version?
>>321243173
Emulate or pirate PC version. The steam version is just the PC version with a shitty DRM, achievements, and the original music patched in. There is probably a music patch for the PC version anyway.
>>321243173
Emulate
The PC version has really weird sounding music. At least it did a few years back, unless they patched it
>>321242589
The retard lines and most of cids cursing were all made up by the localization team. They arent in the creators origibal scripts, and therefore in and of themselves are censoring the intent of the author, and should be treated as trash. Ok?
>>321243173
Emulate it. It's free and you arguably get a cleaner, more simple experience. Plus with plug ins you can increase internal resolution which may improve the visuals.
>>321240609
Yes. Take the chance to play it unvoiced, with a turn based system and rename the characters to some silly names for more enjoyment.
Also since its action based the Materia system of the Remake will likely be very diferent from the original version.
Play the original, avoid the character mod.
>>321240609
If you really like it you're going to feel sick when you see the remake.
But yes, you definitely should play it.
>>321240609
Yes make sure you pick the option to save the best girl
>>321243406
So the steam version is closer to the source material than the original? Any articles about this? Sounds interesting
>>321243449
>rename the characters to some silly names
I've never played any early Final Fantasy games with default names. Not once. I miss those days.
>>321243472
The steam version didnt change cids dialogue. But if the remake does, it isnt censorship, i just don't want people to throw that term around for things they shouldnt be. The source is the japanese script which I'm sure is online.
>>321243472
The dialogue in the PC and console version is identical M8
>>321243449
>rename the characters to some silly names for more enjoyment
That's a terrible idea for a first playthrough, especially since you won't have the option to do that in the remake so he should get attached to the canon names.
>>321243629
I was talking about the Steam version. I've never played the game before, I'd like to get the Steam version unless it has changes that altered the original script. If the "retard" lines were never in the original script in reality then I don't mind
>>321243686
alright
>>321243462
She's a little flat for my tastes.
>>321243691
>canon names
Literally no one gives a shit. Take your autism elsewhere
>>321240609
You should. The remake is being aimed at those that already played the original.
>>321243339
the music is fixed
>>321243173
-> >>321242618
>>321243780
>remake of a classic series
>not aiming at masses of casuals who never played the originals
Pick 1.
>>321243597
Same here, Probably why i dont like the new FFs anymore and turned into a SMT fan.
>>321243691
Its the best idea, makes the playthrough more personal and one more reason to even bother to play the original.
>>321240609
Sure man. Remember that the graphics have aged like milk. The gameplay should still be fun though.
No, it's old and shitty.
>wait your turn now Clowd before you attack anybody
>>321243173
Emulate dat shit
>>321244307
Guys get shot and they wont die either.
>>321240609
im just gonna play crisis core and wait.
ps1 rpgs are too clunky for me to enjoy having played tales games
>>321244601
>play crisis core and wait
>this is the modern FF7 audience
This makes me sad for some reason
>>321240609
Well the remake won't be out for god knows how long, so why not?
>>321244601
>too clunky
Then don't bother with Crisis Core. You can thank me later.
>>321243760
hue
>>321244776
Dude we have people born in the PS2 generation posting here.
>>321240609
It'll probably be better than the remake, so why not? Also, the remake will likely have a far better (though more censored) localization, so play the original so you can enjoy how improved it is.
>>321244601
>Turn-based JRPG
>Clunky
I can't even begin to fathom what you're talking about.
>>321244972
We have people who play games who don't remember a time before DLC lurking here (and probably posting too).
>>321245245
The world controls are downright awful, you never know what direction you're going to go until you push it.
Should I install mods for PC version to make the game prettier? or keep original graphics?
>>321245367
>who don't remember a time before DLC
That's ridiculously depressing. This must be how old people feel about everything.
>>321245431
It's pretty logical. There are only a few places in the game, Tifa's room being on of them, where I'd say the directional controls are weird. Kids these days, Jesus.
>>321245598
Your choice, but realistic models and textures people like to use stick out like a sore thumb. I prefer consistency, but that's up to you.
>>321245703
>There are only a few places in the game
No. At the very least every other screen is a gamble on whether you walk right out of the room. The only screens I got used to was the long walkway in the big gun harbor city.
>>321245598
Graphics mods look terrible for this game imo.
>>321245913
I'm either incredibly awesome at video games or you're godawful. I've never even noticed any control issues outside of a few locations. Maybe it has something to do with growing up when the PSX was new.
yes, but then don't play the remake
is there a way to play it with the cartoony graphics but without the blocky hands?
How long is FFVII?
>>321246835
So if you are playing FF7 for the first time then to complete it will take 39-40 hours. However, for completionist it will take a long, long time. In case you are wondering a completionist is some one who will have completed the game 100%. It clocks around 90 hours.
>>321245913
you should really just stop playing video games. You definitely don't have the mental acuity to handle them.
>>321246835
Around 20 dungeons and three or four hours of cutscenes.
Since they are releasing the remake episodically, it might be years before its fully done. So you have plenty of time
>>321246678
Mods I guess.
>>321249102
Progress, Anon, it's the current year ffs
>>321249234
He fucked up and misspelled progesterone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone#Breasts
>Decide to replay FF7
>Get to Bugenhagen's speech
>Game freezes every time in the middle of it
>Cleaning the disk does zilch
>Can't bypass the speech
>All copies of the game on Amazon and Ebay are 30 dollars
Welp, guess I can replay FFX or something.
>>321249562
Piracy?
You can pirate the PC version (or pirate the emulated version if you can't handle the PC version).
It would run on almost anything, including cellphones.
Been playing through the greatest hits version, just had the scene where Barett reunites with his daughter after Sector 7 gets fucked.
Kinda disappointed that the battle intros are like 5 seconds long, and there's no option to have the game pause when an ATB meter fills like in Chrono Trigger.
just got to Rocket Town. Damn I love this game.
>>321249847
I was really into the particular run I was having. I still want to complete it, but obviously I can't with that disk.
Just started playing it for the first time as well OP. I just finished Cloud having to crossdress and just escaped the sewer. I've only beaten FF6 and I'm liking 7.
>>321250589
why did you even buy a disc anyway? Buying it digitally must be so much easier
>first JRPG I played was Chrono Trigger
>cool combat, even if turn-based stuff is foreign to me at the time. I like how I can run away from NPCs mid dialog and see where enemies are hiding. Even though combat is turn-based, it's pretty quick, and there's an incentive not to attack right away because you can combine techs.
>play FF7 (the original PC version) some years later, probably 2002.
>combat is waaaaaay slower. Can't see enemies at all because everything is random, and enemy/player position is completely irrelevant. Materia makes all characters basically the same empty slots, and moving around the environments is really wierd. There are three different graphical styles for the characters, so nothing's cohesive, and the pacing of the story flatlines the instant you escape Midgar.
FF7 just felt really old to me as a game compared to CT.
I might replay it soon, just to get a better appreciation for it (and to maybe finish it), but aside from the presentation, I never really "got" FF7.
>>321244368
>name is ex-soldier, which only happens for the first fight in the game
>has barrier bars
>backdrop isn't midgar train station
>camera angle looks like he's about to use a limit break or a summon
Where does this picture come from?
>>321249562
Do you have a moded PS2 and a PSP?
>>321250750
Chrono Trigger is the best game in the genre probably but I'd still say FFVII has the more interesting story and characters.
>>321250970
No. I just have a regular-ass PS2 and a PS1 memory card.
>>321250686
I've owned the disk for years. I bought the game when it was still new. It worked fine the last time I played the game in like 2008.
>>321250750
The Materia system is one of the superior systems available, CT had a basic character progression system.
>>321251082
I see then sorry lad.
>>321251082
Hah, you're playing it like I first played it 10 years ago. Best advice I can give is Windex the shit outta that disc and hope for the best.
>>321250826
I think that's one of the first areas of the game, that sky looks correct. It's easy to get your Limit up if you take damage even vs the weak enemies here. To me it looks like emulated Playstation version with a plugin that's increased the resolution. Also some kind of filter too because it's a little to blurred to be a PC version I think.
If the original is truly better than the remake, then it would make more sense to play the remake first. If you play the original first, you will simply feel betrayed, but if you play the remake, things will end up better than you expected when you get around to the original.
>>321244307
what kind of a fag hates turn based RPGs?
FF7 has aged horribly in terms of gameplay mechanics
>>321251283
It's a genre that only existed due to limitations.
Those limitations have evaporated so they aren't needed anymore.
>>321250750
You need to change your settings. In Config turn battle to 'active' and crank up speed to maximum. Only plebs use anything less.
>>321240609
>Should I play this before the remake comes out?
you should just play this
>>321251297
not seeing it. Its gameplay mechanics are just standard RPG ATB stuff. To say it aged horribly is to say 95% of RPGs from before 2001 aged horribly
>>321251367
>It's a genre that only existed due to limitations.
Action based RPGs were a thing even during the Snes (Star Ocean) so no hardware limitations were never a reason for turn based RPGs excistance.
>>321251367
What limitations?
>>321251537
>Action based RPGs were a thing even during the Snes
Yeah, but they couldn't do much with them.
>>321250750
The pc version sucks shit, I highly recommend you play the psx version.
Most of your post about ff7 in general is wrong or comes from ignorance about how to play the game
Battles have a front and back row that is extremely important in doing damage and taking damage.
Almost every materia affects the stats of characters who equip them, which means optimizing your team can depend on not loading down physical damage dealers with spells and summons, and giving them to spellcasters who make better use of the +magic ststs.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say "everything is completely random", because the game was easy to understand back when I was 8 and it still is now.
>>321251568
Yes they could, it was always a design choice. Like having the PS1 FFs unvoiced.
>>321251504
ATB systems are horribly outdated. A majority of those RPGs aged terribly
>>321251504
ATB is shit. Only FF and Chrono Trigger used it, so don't pull that "generic RPG" argument.
And to be fair, a lot of RPGs from pre-2001 are pretty fucking terrible.
>>321249950
You can, go into the settings and change it.
>>321251504
>95% of RPGs from before 2001
How may actually used ATB? It's CT and like 3 FF games, right?
>>321251975
I've tried all three settings, and none of them work like Chrono Trigger. Supposedly "Wait" pauses the action when you open the magic and item menus, but I still get attacked during them, even if I leave the controller alone for like a minute just to make sure the CPU didn't input an attack before I opened the menu.
>>321252068
I think there are 6 FFs with ATB.
>>321252260
And only 4 of them are before 2001. And this is also counting fucking phone games.
>>321250589
If you were playing on a PS2, install Free McBoot, transfer save to your computer, resume play. If you were playing on a PS3 I imagine you could transfer the save to your computer even more easily.
>>321252536
4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 all came out before 2001. What two are you thinking of that came out afterward? And what FF phone games came out before 2001?
>>321251812
>ATB systems are horribly outdated.
How? Use your words, anon.
>>321251905
>And to be fair, a lot of RPGs from pre-2001 are pretty fucking terrible.
Absolutely disgusting.
>>321252817
>counting two withheld games as part of a world-encompassing 95%
>>321240609
I bought the Steam version back the game first got ported over. Haven't played it yet but is there atleast a patch or mod to get the music the same. Also I hear some areas look shittier than PS1, is there a patch for that too or is that not true?
>>321253194
Stop talking nonsense.
>>321253503
Great argument. You really refuted me there.
>>321240609
Yes. Actually, you should play this one (or the Steam version) INSTEAD of the shitty remake.
>>321240609
If you don't mind being disappointed by the remake, go ahead
kids these days...
>>321253572
I can only guess what you were trying to say because what you posted made no goddamn sense.
Looking back, the 95% part seemed to be a response to some other post. The "two withheld games part" is baffling. My guess would be you were talking about games that weren't released in English, but that only applies to one of those games in the first place, and that one (5) ended up getting released in English before 2001.
So just what the flying fuck did you actually try to say?
>>321254120
>So just what the flying fuck did you actually try to say?
A moron tried to argue that hating on the ATB system is akin to hating 95% of rpgs released before 2001.
Not only is that statistic blatantly false, but trying to count 4 and 5 in there is retarded, because literally nobody played those games, let alone have nostalgia about them or prove that they influenced the industry. They never got released outside of japan until over a decade later, and the people within Japan didn't play them either, because that was the height of Dragon Quest's popularity, which is a traditional turn based series.
>>321254465
>trying to count 4 and 5 in there is retarded, because literally nobody played those games
Are you fucking serious? Plenty of people played FF4. It's fondly remembered by many fans of the series.
FF4 was released in America only four months after its original release date, quite a normal delay back then. FF5 was released in America only seven years after its original release date, not "over a decade".
You have no right to call anyone a moron, you lazy, muddled reactionary.
>>321255140
Way to disprove really nothing I said.
So are you going to defend the statement, or argue about something in left field and act like you won?
>>321254465
>No one in Japan played Final Fantasy IV
>Theme of Love is taught in Japanese schools
Alrighty.
>>321255450
Make yourself fucking clear! Stop just fucking posting the first fucking thing that pops into your STUPID LITTLE FUCKING MIND
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>321255956
Already told you, but apparently it's all somehow for naught because you enjoyed 4.
>>321255858
>japanese schools gave holidays on Dragon Quest release days back then because so many boys would skip school that day anyways
Yeah, kids sure loved that ATB system.
>>321256104
>Already told you
THEN I ALREADY RESPONDED
I HAVE RESPONDED TO EVERY FUCKING THING YOU HAVE WRITTEN ME
>>321256347
>I HAVE RESPONDED TO EVERY FUCKING THING YOU HAVE WRITTEN ME
And every time you've thrown goalposts out to the side or started nonsequiturs. Cry more, you caps lock faggot.
>>321256104
>Yeah, kids sure loved that ATB system.
What?
>>321256662
That's what the whole discussion is about. Arguing that some people know a song doesn't mean that people liked the game, or even knew the song was from a game, let alone liked the combat system in that game.
>>321254465
Holy fuck, what do you have against ATB? It's the same shit as a lot of games that simply use some sort of SPD or AGI stat to determine turn (if they can lap each other). It's perfectly fine and actually gives battles a bit of flow. A game where ATB was terrible was FF9, and that's because the game ran so poorly that you were waiting independent of the ATB bar filling since the game literally could not keep up. For all intents and purposes outside of a few exceptions, it's basically just traditional turn based that doesn't wait for your slow ass in the menus.
>>321256958
>Holy fuck, what do you have against ATB?
Nice projecting. I like the ATB system. The way you described it there really connects with how I thought about it on the toilet a few nights ago; it's like initiative in D&D.
That said, arguing that 95% of RPGs before 2001 used it is retarded, which was the only point I made in that post before you projected your idea that I hated it onto it.
>>321256458
What fucking goalposts? I stated a fact.
>I think there are 6 FFs with ATB.
>4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 all came out before 2001.
That fact has not changed. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why did you have to turn that into a fucking argument? It is a simple fact.
You're the one trying to argue that two of those games don't count, and the reason you offered as to why they don't count is simply not true for 4 at all.
I have not stated any nonsequiturs. I responded to your stupid fucking post with a simple fact that directly contradicted what you said. In return I've gotten a mess of nonsense and petty provocations.
>>321257328
>What fucking goalposts? I stated a fact.
The argument isn't about that. That's a moed goalpost. The argument is about whether 95% of rpgs before 2001 use it, which isn't true.
>I have not stated any nonsequiturs.
You're doing it right now. What you're posting has nothing to do with the conversation.
>In return I've gotten a mess of nonsense and petty provocations.
You're the one in caps lock hypderdrive, screaming on an anonymous imageboard. So that's my line.
>>321257291
You're right, I followed the chain of replies down poorly. Regardless, someone in this thread is obsessing over that shit.
>>321240609
No. The new one improves on everything, and all it will do is leave you wanting. Just wait until the remake is released. There is virtually no reason to play the dated one other than "this is will tide you over"
>>321257649
He's really butthurt, yeah. Later, brosef.
>>321257698
>There is virtually no reason to play the dated one other than "this is will tide you over"
Syperior turn based gameplay, Tiffa Knockers and can name characters.
>>321257536
>The argument is about whether 95% of rpgs before 2001 use it
I didn't post that, nor did I respond to that post.
I responded to this:
>>321252068
>It's CT and like 3 FF games, right?
with this:
>>321252260
>I think there are 6 FFs with ATB.
and every reply I've gotten since then has consisted of lies, distortions, muddled nonsense, and provocation. I'll own up to getting mad, but I did not make a single fucking nonsequitur. The only thing I've done wrong is continue responding to your awful fucking posts.
>>321258051
>I'll own up to getting mad, but I did not make a single fucking nonsequitur. The only thing I've done wrong is continue responding to your awful fucking posts.
>not make a single fucking nonsequitur.
You walked into a discussion about the ATB system and started screaming about something that wasn't the ATB system, then started screaming about how you didn't understand the conversation when everyone else tried to stay on-topic. Got it.
>>321258252
You are a horribly cruel person and I hope you realize how much pain you've caused me tonight.
>>321258404
>now trying to blame other people when you jsut want to talk about the fucking conversation
You did this to yourself, you failure.
>>321241667
Does she play any major role or is she just a side character? My PS4 could use another game besides Bloodborne there.
>>321256949
>Arguing that some people know a song doesn't mean that people liked the game
No one ever said that. You said no one played FF IV, someone else said that a song from the game was so famous it was taught in Japanese schools. That's it. The game must have some renown for a song to be taught in schools.
>>321258502
Everything you've posted has been unrelated to the OP, so don't try to act like you're on-topic.
You are continually responding to someone who's mad at you. There is no good reason for you to do this. The "fucking conversation" is not enriched by your continued prodding of me. You just keep cutting and cutting with every post. What you are doing now has no purpose other than simple cruelty.
I will remember this conversation for days, and it will do me no good. I have not learned anything from this conversation. It is nothing but pure suffering. That is all you have given me.
You are hurting another human being and accomplishing nothing else.
>>321258949
Side character.
>>321258959
>The game must have some renown for a song to be taught in schools.
What was that one animated movie where a song became super popular, but nobody knew what movie it was from? The name escapes me. It was about some princess going off and becoming a warrior in fantasy europe or whatever.
>>321259075
>You are continually responding to someone who's mad at you.
Nah, just a retard who says that I'm somehow not making sense and being off topic because I didn't suddenly drop my discussion and switch to HIS topic.
>>321259146
Oh. It's all right. I can get hype about touring the world with my bros as the faggiest boy band around.
what are some OP materia/e-skills that are missable, as in if I don't backtrack or get it at that second my chance is lost forever
it's one of the reasons I get so nervous playing jrpgs I'm afraid of missing something
>>321258302
Superior tactical wait time and using an actual good name instead of Cloud.
>>321259060
Sorry anon but it IS 2015.
>>321240609
is the pc port faithful to the original PS version?
>>321242241
It's different than the original, it's not 1-1, it's not a complete hack job like Silent Hill HD.
>>321259843
Complete thesubmarineandFort CondorandTrainminigames to get special materias lost if you dont win the minigames (Only once chance)
>>321260023
No they arent.
>>321261298
Because it IS 2105.
>>321240983
The Materia System is great, I'm sure the remake would keep it in.
>>321240609
fatal fentasty is for gay homos
LMAO AT YOUR LIFE NERDS
>>321260223
It's basically the game with no content missing or anything. The music was patched officially, although when modding the game there's a lot of options for what sort of soundtrack you may want, but both the PC version and the PS4 port have certain sound issues at times, like a looping background sound may not stop and continue on until something cuts it off, or music may not stop during a major scene like the Sector 7 plate fall. Also there's minor graphics quirks, like flat circular shadows in combat rather than shaded, or 3D models being way too clean and sharp against the pre-rendered backgrounds.
If you're not going to emulate or get it on PSP/PS3, the PC or PS4 versions do fine but don't be surprised if something triggers a hardcore fan's autism involving little niggling issues.
>>321262616
>mocks others interests.
> calls others gay homos.
> posts gay frog
>>321240609
Yes of course, it's still at least 2 years off. It wouldn't spoil anything, the remake is more of a reboot.
>>321263454
nice meme pic old slut maybe you should try a real game and ill show you how a real man operates
>>321262340
LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3sBZ5Nr4hc&t=1m16s
>>321240609
The remake is basically going to be an entire different game, so why not?
>>321250750
Chrono Trigger has the best gameplay of any JRPG but FF7 had more interesting story and characters.
Also the vanilla PC version is garbage.
>waiting for a remake that:
>won't come out for god knows how long
>is confirmed to have drastic changes to both gameplay and story, including censorship
>is episodic
