I completely disowned this game when it was first revealed, but now I'm starting to warm up to it. Anyone else have this feel?
>>321227947
So you're growing up? Good anon.
>>321227947
>Shit art
>Terrible designs
>Idol shit
>Battles dont even look interesting in any way
>Music sounds like shit
Naw man, I'll pass.
>>321227947
It just came out in Japan.
I know there's no romantic social links, but does MC at least get with Tsubasa?
>>321227947
congrats on recovering from shite taste
No, it still looks like shit that retarded weeaboos would like.
>>321228374
>Shit art
Art looks great.
>Terrible designs
That's redundant
>Idol shit
Idol culture is the best thing to come out of Japan
>Battles don't even look interesting in any way
It combines the signature combat from MegaTen with the weapon triangle from Fire Emblem. That's interesting.
>Music sounds like shit
Clean your ears.
>>321227947
Tsubasa prays for you.
has any streamer finished the game?
can you fuck anyone?
>>321228374
Okay. Thanks for the opinion. Now go discuss something you actually like
>>321230184
>>321228553
There's an almost kiss scene (faux tv drama scene) between Tsubasa and Itsuki, but no one gets together up to Chapter 4's end.
>>321229886
>Idol culture is the best thing to come out of Japan
>>321230396
I'm guessing she was attacked and shaved?
>>321230314
>Tsubasa
>>321230439
IIRC she was caught in a relationship and had her head shaved as a punishment/apology to her fans
I always wanted it, because I'm not a boring person who only wants generic games.
>b-but idol-scifi is generic
Kill yourself, smtfags.
>>321230557
They both like each other, that much is evident even at the start of the game.
Did the same thing, but now I'm back to disowning it because fuck NoA.
>>321230314
>but no one gets together up to Chapter 4's end.
Are you saying there are relationships forming during Ch. 5 or
you don't know since that's where the streamer played up to?
>>321227947
When the collaboration was first announced, all I could do was dread power level circlejerking from TWO fucking fanbases.
Then the final product began to manifest. I didn't think too much about it beyond waiting for more info.
But the more that was revealed, the more hyped I became and just watching all the streams of the people with early copies has solidified that.
It's like an SMT game with Fire Emblem characters, plus all the parts of Persona I like, minus all the parts of Persona I don't like. Only thing that rubs me the wrong way are the loading times, but that's not the worse thing and they never really seem that bad given how fast battles go.
>>321230892
>because fuck NoA.
We know ABSOLUTELY FUCKING N O T H I N G about the localization.
>>321227947
I'll probably get it, but that doesn't mean a lot of it doesn't look like shit.
Fuck, I pushed through FFX-2, I can make it through this.
>>321230718
Itsuki has fucking shit taste
>>321231046
That's all I've seen being played.
Nocturnebabies were assblasted, so 10/10
>>321231201
That's why you play as him, so your tastes match.
>>321231268
Have streamers completed any supports yet? Or maxed out any?
>>321231435
Supports don't exist.
Chapter 3 is called Next Generation.
Barry was meant to be Doug's master but he told Mamori to be his master instead.
>>321231435
Supports aren't really like Fire Emblem proper where you just kinda dry hump each other for more conversations and in some games characters get married.
Rather you have Support Missions that are some social interactions plus a sidequest where the end results confers the equivalent benefits for a turn-based RPG.
>>321231918
>Doug
>>321231918
At least spoiler this shit, dude
>>321231610
So Tsubasa and Itsuki never get together?
>>321232041
Doug will choke this point.
>>321227947
At first I thought it looked stupid.Now it might be one of the reasons I'll get a WiiU
Nope. It looks like idoltrash and it's censored. Fuck it.
>>321231610
The social links/star rank up... you should know what I'm talking about?
>>321232114
Yeah because Mamori being Doga's master is a big secret.Sorry.
>>321229921
>that quality
It's like I'm really back on circa 2006 youtube! Here, I'll contribute one of my favorites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMvAzYH1xHM
>>321232486
No, but knowing why should've been a secret
>>321232514
Welcome to Nico.
>>321232423
Stage ranks go up through regular leveling. I've yet to see anyone do sidequests.
>>321232486I forgive you, tripfag
hamayama is streaming again on twitch
>>321227947
Nah, I dismissed it as weeaboo garbage the second I saw it and it still is.
>>321229886
>idol culture is the best thing to come out of japan
tell that to the women that lose their jobs for the following reasons
>being gay
>being in a relationship
>being too old
>being too voluptuous
>speaking out too much
>not being perfect enough
>not selling enough merch
>refusing to do gravure
>doing gravure
>not constantly pandering to weebshit fans
>mentioning Miku in any positive light
>getting an eating disorder
>refusing to whore yourself out to the yakuza
>doing it anyway and getting thrown out like a used tissue
Idol Culture is shit
>>321232119
Answer this >>321232486
>>321233158
Who got trashed for being gay?
Or mentioning Miku?
>>321227947
I hate Idolshit with with a passion so no.
>>321227947
>MC has his own personality
>can only fuck the most generic girl
>loading times
>idols
>generic everything
>loading times
>only a few actual FE characters
>loading times
Meh/10
>>321232119
This isn't Persona dude.
We won't know for sure until the end of the game, but the only couple even being hinted at is Tsubasa and Itsuki.
>>321233406
not same guy but some girl group got disbanded because two of the performers were going out.
bursting the bubble of weeb fantasties of idols being pure is an absolute no-no in idol culture.
also Miku is killing the Idol Industry since you knowshe isn't realand kills the fantasy of attainability.
>>321233680
>This isn't Persona dude.
You could've fooled me.
>>321233656
>generic everything
At least put this at the bottom of your post so I can read everything you have to say before completely invalidating your opinion.
>>321233887
Sorry but so far everything just seems so generic. It's almost literally a more weeb Persona with some FE fanservice.
>>321233808
>not same guy but some girl group got disbanded because two of the performers were going out.
That makes me wonder what dudes are fucking each other.Idols are okay, fandoms are shit.
>>321234039
>It's almost literally a more weeb Persona with some FE fanservice.
I don't think you know what generic means, pal.
>>321229886
Holy fuck you have to be total weeb to say that idol culture is good. This has to be bait.
I honestly, watched the streams and lost interest a bit. Maybe because I wasn't playing it, but personally I don't think the game for me exactly.
>>321231296
Itsuki is his own character, not a self-insert protag
>>321234081
>That makes me wonder what dudes are fucking each other.
Lot of musical subcultures were basically gay communities until women made it lucrative and producers started making bands that were just straight guys that just came off as gay and androgynous.
>>321233158
This.
Cute girls get pressured into becoming idols, and then your entire life is basically walking on eggshells. The stress must be insane.
Liking 2D is one thing, but IRL idol culture is a fucking cancer. It puts unreal expectations on human beings that they will never be able to meet, so they have to live a life that's a giant lie basically.
If you want a perfect waifu, stick to 2D
>>321233158
More than half of those aren't unique or even strongly tied to idols, they apply to most entertainment industries even in the west. Obviously if an idol isn't selling merch or gets too old she's going to lose her job, the same way a cartoon or model (respectively) would.
>>321234298
I'm a huge weeb and even I know that's retarded bullshit. Nip idol fans are the worst autistic cunts to ever exist and I feel so sorry for the girls who have to send their lives slaves to record companies trying to please them. That said 2D idol culture is just fine.
Itsuki's whole shtick is that he dislikes the nature of the entertainment industry, so certain elements of the game come off as a bit incongruous.
>>321230559
Idol culture is fucking weird.
Like, celebrity culture is the west is also fucked, but at least they don't have to dance around the fact that they hate their weirdo fans.
I see it's time for the nightly #FE shill thread
Censored.
>>321229886
>Idol culture is the best thing to come out of Japan
I agree with everything you said but this.
Idols by themselves are okay.
All the things surrounding them, especially the rabid fanbase, is not.
>>321235527
Fuck this normalfag, why couldn't Toma be the MC?
>>321235527
Who cares. When is he going to pick best girl?
Prologue
Theme: Idol Audition for Tsubasa' debut. Major Boss: Teru Gojyuin/Geriba. Cast Members: Itsuki, Tsubasa, Touma (Joins later).
You learn the basics of battle with your newly gained Mirage Master powers in order to save yourselves and the other in attendance at the Audition Show.
Dungeon 1
Theme: Fashion, Shibuya 109. Major Boss: Ayaha Oribe/Inverse. Cast Members: Itsuki, Tsubasa, Touma, Kiria
Kiria's live for her single was abruptly interrupted by a corrupted Ayaha and several audience members in attendance were drained and disappear. You go in to save Ayaha and prevent anymore disaster.
Dungeon 2
Theme: Gravure. Major Boss: Nobu Horinozawa/Gangrel. Cast Members: Itsuki, Tsubasa, Touma, Kiria
Maiko is taken captive by Nobu and you explore the gravure world in the idolasphere. You fight a sub boss and is forcibly thrown out by Nobu. You see Maiko's past as a gravure model and go back with Tsubasa to defeat Nobu and get Maiko. Tsubasa gains courage to do her Gravure CM for Amrita Orange and gets her swimsuit.
Dungeon 3
Theme: TV Bangumi Set with Garan/Tou motif, how I explain in English... like Traditional Japanese theme. Major Boss: Barry Goodman/Dohga. Cast Members: Itsuki, Tsubasa, Touma, Kiria, Eleonora.
Barry becomes corrupted and you go to save him. In the end Mamori becomes a Mirage Master by saving Barry and taking Dohga as her partner. Mamori also has an image song named Amaoto no Memory. 雨音のメモリー, the song is so old school. I can't wait to do all these on Karaoke Wii U...
Dungeon 4
Theme: Backstage/Technology/Camera. Major Boss: Quentin Tarantino/Exceli + Tsurugi Carnage Form. Cast Members: Itsuki, Tsubasa, Touma, Kiria, Eleonora, Mamori
Yashiro joins the cast after.
>>321236794
Nice copy&paste
I want to become Tsubasa and get spit-roasted by thick, musky cocks!
>>321236172
I prefer Toma as a partner because I can no-homo him during his free time events
>>321236794
I saw the Yashiro fight, it looked hard as hell
>>321236794
>Quentin Tarantino
Huh? I didn't see any NPCs that look like him
#FE soundtrack tier list so far
>Great Tier
Boss themes
>J-Pop shit but really catchy and they goddamn better be since this is what they blew most of their budget on
Character songs
>Alright Tier
Battle Theme
Dungeon 3
>Generic, Boring, and Forgettable Tier
Other Dungeon Themes
Everything else
>>321237513
Kuen Tarashino is afro dude.
>>321237712
>Kuen Tarashino
Bob Ross as an eccentric director huh? That's something else.
Would it be worth getting this game if you're a fan of one series and have never played the other?
>>321238001
I'm getting it with absolutely no knowledge of FE so I'd say yeah.
Don't know how it won me over but it did.
>>321238001
Yeah, I think there's enough of either/or to draw you in.
Stream just confirmed Tiki/Barry/Maiko aren't playable. Just support characters.
>>321240189
>barry isn't playable
The last bit of interest I had in the game is gone.
>>321240746
A little girl stole his mirage
>>321240891
More like he gave it to her.
>>321227947
All I have is morbid curiosity. It can't possibly be any good, but at least I'll get a laugh or two out it.
>>321227947
I just want a comfy RPG to play. Also pic related reminds me of tsubasa with different art style.
>>321240189
fucking dropped
>>321227947
Welcome to the fold of good taste OP
>>321233158
So it's just like western music/movies except replace yakuza with jews and Miku with white people. Big deal.
>>321242338
I thought the Western industry was more accepting of the LGBT like with Gaga and that one guy, Adam something.
>>321227947
It's just too weeb for me. Maybe I'll give it a shot if I can find a cheap copy somewhere after release but god damn I hate that FE is going even further down the weebshit road.
Nothing against cringey weebshit if that's what you like but I miss the style of older games in the series.
>>321242806
Sure, but the caveat there is that the western entertainment industry doesn't really rely on erotomania, just the image of being wholesome or being sexually exciting. Or some Madonna-whore complex-esque combination of the two.
So Gaga can be weird and Sam Smith can sing about his failed relationship with a male model. They're not trying to sell you a pure virgin.
>>321240189
>No Maiko
Why the fuck do they always make the most attractive characters the least important? God damn japan has the worst fucking taste.
>>321240189
>>321243167
Huh, yeah that's true.
I wonder if the game will address those issues. But seeing how it seems to be more
about Tsubasa's lack of confidence so far, something's telling me that we'll simply see
"being a popstar is fun, but you gotta believe in yourself" and not the shitty underbelly of
the whole thing
>>321240189
I knew they wouldn't be, but still annoying.
>>321227947
Pirating it because of censorship.
That said if they ever include that zipper bikini as DLC I'll buy the game AND the DLC.
DLC haters can eat my rich ass.
>>321243610
It's a video game, not a documentary faggot.
>>321243706
>games can't have satire
Gotta sustain escapism and idealization brah, I see
Anyone know what the first promotion option translates to? I know the second one is Sorcerer.
>>321243804
>games gotta have an agenda
Get the fuck out.
>>321243662
>because of censorship
yeah right
pirate whatever you want, but please don't try to convince yourself ot that just so you can feel better about it
>>321243809
Probably Sage.
>>321232514
Oh shit I remember watching the fuck out of this bitches content back in the day
>>321243809
賢者 is Sage.
It's Kiria's support class because she gets healing skills.
>>321243957
>pirate whatever you want, but please don't try to convince yourself ot that just so you can feel better about it
I rarely ever pirate anon. Either I ignore it completely or I play it.
But this is #FE and I watched the vids and is reminded of P4.
Ignoring the censorship it's a 8/10 on my book. Playable.
>>321244135
>>321243979
Thanks.
>>321244203
>8/10
>playable
>>321244298
That looks shit
>>321244413
Sorry anon. I'm from the old world where 5 is shit, 6 is passable, 8 is good and 9-10 is GOTY.
>>321244418
It's very earth magey, I like it. I want to see how her Sage form looks.
>>321227947
nah i was always ready to play it
>>321227947
This looks so good.
>>321244627
OK that's cool.
Hey guys,guess who cameos?
>>321244863
Ilyana?
>>321244863
DUDE FOOD LMAO
did they get the Xenoblade Chronicles X writers for her dialogue? They're super good at food jokes.
Some girl girl gets capture and the group decides to watch a JPOP concert.
what is going on right now.
>>321245360
It's not like scheduled concerts get put on hold cause somebody gets kidnapped.
>>321245360
To be fair. Performances and its essence is the essence of both their own powers and their enemies' powers.
I imagine familiarizing yourself with it well to be wise.
>>321227947
I would definitely play it if I had a Wii U
But not buying the damn thing for it
>>321227947
Nope, still dead to me.
>>321244863
Good, they picked best tellius girl
>>321227947
Literally sold my WiiU because I had no reason to keep it after seeing what this had become.
>>321248278
>things that never happened: the post
>>321227947
>I'm a FE fag
>I'm a persona fag
>Still don't want to like the game
I expected SMTxFE to a little less...gay
>both people who like and hate this game will post spoilers about it before it is out in english
>>321229886
>Idol culture is the best thing to come out of Japan
Fuck you
>>321248653
Oh well, enjoy your furry and yaoi p5 then
>>321227947
I'm perfectly fine with them making a new kind of game but WHY IDOLS FUCK
>>321248973
Because idols are the most grim thing in Japan right now. Aside from nuclear meltdowns, but japan already dislike nuclear things.
>>321248973
A reminder that the last time they made a traditional console JRPG we got Digital Devil Saga. Now, a decade later, we get Kowashitai.
>>321250060
I still laugh when /v/ claims DDS is good. One of the dullest jrpgs I've played, both story and gameplay wise. The characters are annoying and the entire tone of the game is a joke. It's about cannibalism, by demons that looks like action figures for 8 year olds eating balls of light. It's also easier than even Persona 3 and 4.
The problem with Atlus is they apply 2D First Person handheld dungeon crawling to 3D games and it doesn't work.
>>321250456
How does it not work? DDS was pretty basic in a lot of regards so I understand why a lot of people call it mediocre, but Nocturne had excellent dungeon design and difficulty.
Opposite for me
Initially I liked the game but when I understood hard idol and anime themes they're going for I got cold to it.
>>321250774
Haven't played Nocturne. I played DDS 1, Raidou 1 and P3/4. None have good dungeons. All are boring and have a "grid design" like a 2D game would. Everything is a hallway and it's extremely dull.
#FE still seems to have this grid format, but from what I saw it is a little bit more open and you have to do shit like dodge cameras that teleport you back to the start. I don't want to spoil myself more so avoided watching more of the stream.
So lemme see if I got this.
Tsubasa = Rise
Kiria = Mitsuru
Eleonora = Chie
Mamori = Nanako
Not sure about the guys but the Toma guy seems to be like Junpei.
>>321251520
No.
>>321251432
How else would you have serious dungeons?
>>321251432
Persona 3 and 4 honestly have some of the shittiest dungeons in the series, they're not very good examples at all. Haven't played any of the Raidou games though.
>>321251628
What the hell is a "serious" dungeon?
>>321251705
A dungeon that isn't five minutes long.
>>321251782
I think your question is weird, but I'll just answer by giving examples of games that I think have good dungeons. Wild Arms series, Lufia series, Diablo series (example of randomly generated done right).
>>321250774
The only interesting dungeons in Nocturne were the diet building and the later Kalpas. It also had an inverse difficulty curve, like pretty much every MegaTen besides SJ.
It's just a shame that the scope is restricted to Akaneia and Awkening. Way too limited for a crossover, and gives too much love to Awakening.
>>321252332
The Diet Building is one of the weaker dungeons in the game. It looks cool, but it's all style no substance. The majority of the dungeons are better.
>>321252526
Having too many characters would be worse. Characters would literally show up to say hello, then leave. Honestly, I'm just happy the MC Mirage is not Marth.
>>321233158
>YFW the message of the game isIDOLSHIT IS FUCKING SHIT
>>321252670
Having style is still better than having nothing like most of the dungeons.
>>321252716
It's not about amount, it's about representation. Why not one mirage from each universe? It's not like the mirages have meaningful interactions with each other, do they? I haven't been watching streams.
I kinda want the game to do well just so we get a sequel that adds in Tellius characters. Not sure what other universe I want.
>>321253004
Assembly of Nihilo, Obelisk, Amala Temple, Yoyogi Park, Tower of Kagutsuchi, all of these were pretty good.
>>321252716
You don't have to stuff in more characters. You just have to balance things out. There's no reason for 4/5ths of the bosses to be guys from Awakening.
Why are people still saying it is idol based? It has enka, rock and classical stuff too. Entire characters devoted to other genres even
>>321253148
I don't think this game will get a sequel regardless of high sales or not. Seems like just a one off thing the devs and publishers did for fun and then back to their regular jobs.
I want the Radiant Historia devs/team to make another new IP.
>>321253364
Sounds more like you just mad character you like didn't make it in. It's impossible to please everyone so I think they just decided to focus on the two most popular universes/casts and go with that. Seems fair to me.
>>321253550
Because /v/ is retarded and thinks hating idols is cool. It's literally the exact same as hating "moe" to them.
>don't care when game is announced
>gain interest because kiria is 10/10 character design
>find out it got ruined
>stop caring
>>321254320
there is not a single doubt in my mind that this literally never happened
try harder next time, censorshipfag
>>321254320
>find out it got ruined
lel censorship face
>>321255028
>>321255123
Maybe he is talking about punished Miku.
>>321255028
it literally did happen though. I thought the crossover concept sounded retarded, but people kept spamming the KOWASHITAI video so I finally watched it and thought it looked great. then I found out the outfit was ruined and stopped caring.
I don't get how people can say this this game is dumb because it only appeals to hardcore weebs, and then turn around and say that it doesn't make sense for someone to get mad over something only a hardcore weeb would care about.
>>321228553
it came out in japan? what do the nip nong ching chongs think of it?
>>321257178
A few people have early copies and famitsu review is up, if you have any value in those. 34/40.
Comes out on the 25th.
>>321227947
Yeah, a lot of that's been happening with the Wii U.
>>321227947
Tsubasa has marvelous breasts.
>>321253987
Idols are fucking shit and they're going to die to kpop soon, so kill yourself.
>>321257640
You are incredibly unintelligent shitposter. Nobody gives a shit about idols. Not you. Not me. Not the people buying this game. Not the people hating this game. You are just immature children allergic to color and cheerfulness because you think being brooding is mature.
Grow up.
