4460 for $165 or 4690 for $215?
Build thread.
4690
I was thinking of getting a new gpu for Christmas. Have a 660 at the moment
I don't really care about pascal. Which should I get for $250-380?
>>321208071
390x, for sure.
>>321207917
Unless you are going to get the 4690k, there's no reason to get anything inbetween.
Get the 4460.
>>321207917
4690K
Huge perfomance difference.
I5-4460 is when you are short of budget and dont want to get a I3-4160.
How good is the perfomance of the I5-4460?
Got one instead a I3-4160.
>>321209226
>0,3 GHz are a huge difference
>4 cores instead of 2 are not
>>321209595
If the game is CPU dependant, like AC Unity or ArmA 3, it'll be a huge difference.
how are my specs?
Thinking of doing an upgrade soon too.
Is i5 4690K, coming from a Phenom II X4 955?
I guess I can juice some more power from my GTX 770 2GB, is there coming a new wave of graphic cards soon?
>>321210472
Yeah, the i5 over the Phenom is a huge upgrade.
Your GPU for now is fine, but those 2GB will give it a hard time with some VRAM hungry games like Arkham Knight.
Wait for the GTX 1060 or whatever comes next year and get the CPU, your GPU won't matter if it's bottlenecked by that Phenom.
>>321209673
I hope its good enough for games, building a PC to get rid of my 2008 PC.
I have two builds one with a FX8350 overclocked at 4.5Ghz and another one with a i5 4440.
I'd recommend the i5 4440, over the FX8350 and I'm going by this to say that the 4690k is even better.
Don't cheap out on the CPU as it will last longer than a GPU.
>>321209673
>Locked i5 vs unlocked i5.
Guess what.
Skylake just came out. Either get the i3-6100, the i3-6320 or the i5-6600k
>>321210881
It is.
There's not a single game that requieres more CPU, hell, some people are doing quite fine with their 4 year old i5 2500k's.
>>321211020
The 4690k is better than the 4460, but the dude is implying that the performance gap between the 4460 and the 4690k is bigger than the one between the 4160 and the 4460.
>>321211101
You will also need to shell out for DDR4, and you'll want at least 2666 MHz RAM considering that, for some reason, the Skylake CPUs are much more powerful with 2666 MHz RAM or higher.
>>321207917
4460, use the rest on a better board or more ram
but don't cheap out on the gpu
>>321207917
>Haswell
>>321207917
4460, use the $50 to get a slightly better board and get 8GB of extra RAM to ensure memory hungry games like Arkham Knight or Black Ops 3 don't have any issues.
>>321211101
Also you can overclock locked Skylake chips in some motherboards.
anyone know if a single D5 pump is enough to run a 420mm (3x140) rad + 240mm rad + cpu block + 2x gpu block? i'm pretty sure the pump will hold it's own but i need a second opinion.
>>321211117
But their I5-2500k are overclocked as fuck.
>>321211101
I5-6600 or nothing.
There is no point in getting a 1151 I3.
>>321213616
Not really.
A i5 2500k nowadays will do the same as a modern i5.
There hasn't been any significant performance changes because AMD hasn't updated their CPUs since 2012.
Why are so many AMD drones from 3rd world countries?
>>321214224
Mexico here, can confirm.
People shill AMD CPUs because they are better for games when the cheapest I3 sweeps the floor with them.
you can price match microcenter via staples for a $160 i5-4590 or a $200 i5-4690k
personally I went with a 4590 but both are good
>>321213616
>But their I5-2500k are overclocked as fuck.
Mine's only on 4ghz and I don't feel like I need an upgrade.
why not buy an i3-6100 and overclock the nuts off it
>>321208142
Wtf? How? Is this in store only?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NNfKzy
Any suggestions?
>>321215930
I assume you arent from the US.
Black friday is magical and clearance offers.
>>321215956
>unlocked CPU
>H97
>3.5
>CD/DVD
stahp
>>321208071
390 or 390x. Got mine as soon as it came it. I'm pretty happy with it.
I just bought
R9 390
i5 4590
Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H
8gb of ram
120 GB ssd
1 tb HDD
212 evo
EVA GS 650w
how decent is that?
>>321216020
Change the 970, not for memes, but AMD cards got cheaper.
You cant overclock with that motherboard at all, its a H97 not Z97.
Get a 1x8GB ram, its cheaper.
PSU too expensive, get a EVGA 500B or push it for a EVGA GS 650W.
>Wired keyboard and mouse
>>321216397
8/10 build.
It would be 9/10 if you got a I5-4690K/I5-4790K instead and a 240GB SSD.
Be more exact about which parts you got.
>>321216168
Great advice!Seriously, what's wrong?
>>321216453
>knocking on wired accessories
fuck batteries and fuck recharging
Playing AC Syndicate, this shit using between 40 and 60% of all cores while running at a pretty eh framerate of 40 fps on busy areas. 4460 and 280x, high settings.
>>321216543
I could not afford to get the i5 4690k or a bigger SSD
can you tell me how to be more exact though
>>321207917
read tt
>unlocked
>unlock
>ghz
seriously this is why most people suck at builds, you spend twice as much on a cpu and then the board and ram are sh*t.
>dat intel marketing
>inb4 I know
>>321216694
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MwGvBm
Better, worse, anything else?
>>321216843
The fact you cant overclock is huge later on, if you dont plan on overclocking at all its just perfect as the difference is minimal.
Bigger SSD will be a problem because it affects its lifetime and if you are installing your OS on it (like you should) there is a huge chance you will fill it eventually and deal with deleting stuff every now and then.
>>321216397
That's almost exactly the build I made a year and half ago, but with i5 4690k and 750W XFX PSU and no SSD due to those parts. It's on the Christamas list though.
why dont you just go to /g/
/v/ doesnt know shit, /g/ doesnt either. but they know a little bit more than /v/ and can go 5 seconds without spouting some sort of meme.
>>321217171
I do not plan to over clock it as it is my first non prebuilt pc. I plan to overclock it when I upgrade in a few years.
Yeah I realize that but I have been fine with 500 gb of hard drive space on my college laptop for 5 years I do not think I will need that much space
>>321217142
MSI Z97 sucks for overclocking but it works, its a good motherboard for a I5-4460~4590 but not for a I5-4690K.
Get a GA-Z97X-UD3H.
R9 390 is cheaper than GTX 970, but only around $5~10 so if you want o keep it its good.
Change the Corsair CX 500W for EVGA GS 650W.
Why? 500W isnt enough for that Build.
>>321217223
/g/ here
don't go to /g/ if you're primarily gaming
>>321217542
Dont overestimate how little 120GB can be.
OS alone takes 25GB (Windows 7) and all the stuff that automatically is created on C: when you install stuff and the user folders adds quickly.
>>321217223
Because /g/ will never recommend you parts for games, instead they will shit on you.
>>321217171
put the os on a smaller ssd and use the larger ssd for games/data
the 6 gbs drives are already getting cheap so this isn't a problem
>>321218290
This is a good idea, but he only bought a one 120GB SSD.
how important is upgrading your case, is it just for looks or will I need to in the future
>>321218397
Depends how shitty was your first case.
If you need more space for your videocard it is really important because some cases HDD bays block some videocards.
>>321216453
>wired peripherals
I don't see the problem here.
>>321216397
> Z97X-UD3H
Unless you will change for a unlocked cpu, you just wasted and buyed a 240gb ssd instead
Just assembled it.
Did i do well, /v/?
(Gonna get a decent monitor next month.)
>>321218502
They work just fine, really good in my opinion but they have their problems.
>Batteries
>Autism about latency for some people
>Price/Quality
>Dropped keystrokes
I love my Logitech G602, and my nameless wireless keyboard that came as a gift from a local store but you can notice their problems.
I mostly use them when im laying on bed.
>>321218802
Looks just fine other than you are using a TV as monitor.
a cheap 1080p 21~23" monitor is $95~150.
>>321207917
i call bullshit this is like 300 bucks where i live.
>>321216453
>Get a 1x8GB ram, its cheaper.
Dont do this unless the mobo you get doesn't support dual channel RAM
>>321219536
>mobo you get doesn't support dual channel RAM
What kind of motherboard doesnt support dual channel RAM?
>>321219536
What if your mobo only has two slots and you want to buy another 8gb later on?
I mean, is there much of a difference?
>>321219697
Not really, a 2~3% perfomance difference.
The perfomance difference exists, but its better get 8x8GB than 4x4x4x4GB so get a one stick of 8GB and when you wanna upgrade add another one.
You save more money this way and have more space to upgrade.
>>321219617
some weird off brand shit? I don't know.
>building a pc for the first time in like 8 years
>everyone in here talking about i5s when I've been looking at i7
I intend to do more than game on the thing but it's making me reconsider.
On a more specific note will the 4790 make my computer explode?
>>321220648
I got a 4690k because games nowadays aren't CPU heavy (with a few exceptions).
But i would totally get an i7 if i could. And i think you should too.
>>321220648
I7 dont are worth it for gaming.
They are good, they work, but you are paying $100 more for the same thing than a i5 when it comes to games.
If you are going to do something else other than games get it, but better be worth it.
>kaboom
I have no idea what your PC is like anon.
i5 6600K or i5 4690K?
>>321220801
I've just heard a lot of bad things about it and overheating
>>321220869
Budget?
Plans to upgrade later on?
>>321220928
they're actually approximately the same price
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qVnsdC
I hope I did good, /g/. It's my first time building a PC. So be gentle.
>>321221064
But motherboards arent, and DDR4 ram is $8 more expensive than DDR3 (8GB sticks).
>>321221106
Looks just perfect.
>>321216453
dear god, please be a troll....
Is it time to upgrade from 2500K?
No, no it isn't.
>>321221250
Here is your reply.
How important is cache memory?
>>321218380
personally I'd rather have two ssd's for the os/data than a better cpu
>literally everything we buy is knockoff retail where performance bottlenecks negate cpu performance
>>321221347
High.
>>321221467
I figured, but I wasn't sure because no one seemed to talk about it.
Asked on /g/ the other day but got no replies.
I'm going to Microcenter for a 390 soon, should I get a 6600k+mobo for $350?
I have a 3570k, I emulate a lot and the newer upcomign emulators might need more power like Xenia, Citra, and CEMU.
>>321221626
Which mobo?
I won a 5960X in a raffle and I've built a computer around it, but I'm not exactly rich so I feel kinda silly, it's worth more than all of the other parts I bought combined. I just don't think I'll ever have a processor like this one ever again, and I wanted to taste the decadence, just this once.
>>321215930
>>321221241
Thank you. I've been stalking these threads for weeks.
>>321221750
ASRock Z170-Pro4 probably.
Might spend an extra $20 for an Asus ASUS Z170-AR
>>321207917
The 4460 is also good if you have to save some money.
It will run most things nearly just as well.
The 4690(K) is just the icing on the cake for the i5s.
Skylakes are horribly overpriced.
>>321211405
>some motherboards.
Yeah, motherboards that are as expensive as the CPU itself or more
Plus fast DDR4 RAM
If the guy's on a budget Skylake is a bad idea
>>321222034
>ASRock
Bad motherboard brand but well, its free.
ASUS Z170-AR is a 7/10 motherboard but its worth it.
>>321222202
I had a Z77 Extreme4 from Asrock for years and it worked fine.
>>321222202
>>321222406
>Anecdotal evidence
neat
>>321222553
ASRock motherboards are well known for being cheap and fail a lot.
>next gen cpu releases
>intel raises price on last gen
lmao i cant believe a 4690k is still 240$
>>321208571
RELEASE WHEN?
>>321222786
They know AMD can't compete in the CPU field so they can do whatever they want.
Any of you guys know when Pascal is going t get released? A friend of mine wants me to assemble a killer rig for him but I am advising him to wait for the new series to launch.
>>321222875
within six months
>>321211101
Except that 6600 is way overpriced compared to 6500 which is also very fine.
How's a 4590+380X for 1080p gayman
Also what's the best H81 mobo? I'm on a budget here so I can't get a fancy €150 mobo and shit, I'm dumping most of my money into the CPU+graphics department
>>321222786
Because they are actually better than the Skylake series believe it or not. Sure they require more watts and produce more heat but you also get more power out of it.
>>321223079
>H81
Get a B85 or you will have problems.
Where are you from?
>>321223108
>ded platform
>>321223269
Spain
What's the difference between H81 and B85? Cheapest I'm finding are H81Ms for 60 to 70 €bucks and B85Ms for around €10 more
>>321223079
>>321223269
Also, drop money on your GPU and add it to the motherboard.
Never, but never cheap out on your Motherboard and PSU since they are pretty much the last things you will ever replace in your computer.
Get a Z97 motherboard, atleast get a MSI Z97 PC mate for €90.
380X is ovekill.
>>321222786
buy low, sell high
>>321210881
>>321211117
Well I have a 4460 and the only game where I get bottlenecked by it is GTA V
>>321223609
How good is the 380? That's the highest I can afford now, but I want to wait for the Arctic Islands.
How well does the 390 drive 1440p? I want to get this ultrawide 1440p monitor with freesync and I can afford a better amd gpu but I feel like the 390 is where the price/performance ratio peaks with amd.
>>321224005
Just enough for 1080p@60Hz in pretty much every game.
>>321224172
Thanks.
>>321224005
Pretty much the best card you can get for less than 250 bucks
Also brought a 4460. Hard to find cheap 1150 socket i5/i7 without paying heaps of money, so this was a major break.
Price is NZD.
Anyone have any experience with the I7 5960x 8 core?
Is it overkill? Worth it?
>>321224541
Overkill for what?
Gaming? ofcourse, you sweep the floor with everything.
So is 30 Gbit/s memory write speed good enough? Is there a reason to switch to ddr4
>>321223269
>you will have problems.
What do you mean by this?
What the fuck is this cancer?!
>>321225586
>>>/qa/
People pay for that shit.
Also
>Not having an adblocker
>>321225681
>adblocker on mobile phone
contain your autism, babe
>>321226251
Makes more sense to have ublock origin in a phone than in a PC.
SOOOOO
Is 380x better idea than GTX960?
I was hearing some real bad experiences with radeons on some new releases.
But apparently 380X is stronger.
>>321226425
It's way stronger, but also priced accordingly
>>321226425
I went with the 280x over the 960 and have no regrets. From all the research I did, the 960 gave you less for more money.
>>321226796
>more money
4 GB gaming OC windforce strix whatever the fuck versions maybe, the way shittier 2GB version is under 200 bucks
>>321217967
Another anon but whats a better board, around a similiar range to the Z97?
I was looking at it because microcenter has it at 20 bucks off and quite discounted
>>321227880
Z97 is a chipset, a kind of motherboard.
Everything in the range of the z97 are other z97 motherboards.
If you are talking about the GA-Z97X-UD3H the nearest thing around it is the UD5H and the ASUS-Z97 A.
>>321217223
Because /g/ is fuckin gay
>>321217967
>>321227880
Mine's at 4.6GHz, it's okay.
>>321228131
oh my mistake
I was talking about the MSI Z97-Gaming 5
Although that GA-Z97X-UD3H is 139 (same price as the msi one) at microcenter.
Is that preferable?
>>321228696
MSI Z97-Gaming 5 is a good motherboard indeed.
Yes its a good deal.
>>321228692
Was that just from black friday? Fuck I scanned their info and didn't see it or I'd have done that immediately.
>>321228808
Thanks anon.
>>321217223
/g/ has a bunch of fucking faggots talking about their triple linked SLI setups with 2 water cooling units
Literally nerds being nerds about nerd shit. /v/ at least has some kind of target goal, usually, "Is my computer good enough for X" which actually drives some kind of discussion and consensus
Who makes the best motherboards these days?
I'll admit I know fuck all about them.
Why fucking buy a 390 when you can literally OC a 290 for the same result?
The vram is basically for much higher res anyway, which you probably aren't planning to do if you're budgets 390
>>321229357
ASRock still making under average quality motherboards.
ASUS started to make shady warranty.
Gigabyte makes really good motherboards.
MSI is fine.
Anything else are just rebrands or shady motherboards.
What would you guys recommend, if i got to spend ~2000$ on a whole new setup? Preferably doing its job for the next 3-4 years, with a GPU upgrade in between.
>>321230016
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
>>321229424
because an OC'd 390 outperforms a 970 and they're the same price point.
>>321229357
Gigabyte
If I'm interested in future proofing and scalability, PCI-E lanes should be a big concern right?
>>321230368
If you care about doing SLI and NVMe, yes.
>>321230302
Depends a lot on the game as well. Sadly shits predominantly developed for nvidia
>>321230443
I'll take that as a yes. I don't intend to strap a bunch of components together just yet, but it might be useful down the line if I wanted to get a little more kick out of it.
>find out my friend got me an ASRock mobo
>paranoid as hell about it not working once I get the rest of my parts
at least I have the option to return it if it goes bad
>>321230530
Yeah I'm pretty disappointed that JC3 has problems on my 390 when 970s can run it great.
Well, not problems really it stays above 50fps on ultra but I feel like it should be higher
Just bought a 6500, did I do good?
Keep in mind in Canada price sucks and it was the best I could have for the price under 300$, think it'll be a good upgrade though.
Why is it, of all things, games are what's terrible at using multiple cores?
>>321232084
Because devs lazily push everything to the GPU
Also trends. CPU heavy games get shit on for bad performance because people gear towards GPU performance a lot more. So this reinforces the the industry towards GPU pushing and thus the circle completes
I always wondered this. Of course cheap power supplies are shady and are of poor quality, but would they be good enough to serve as a replacement PSU in a basic computer? Not a gaming computer, think an old computer that you'd find in a library, one that will likely not tax it much.
>>321232239
I want to live in the world where the processor is the king component of gaming computers.
>>321232378
As someone who worked computer repair for a while, I'd say yes. Even the cheapo off-brand ones will power a bog-standard desktop just fine and in 95% of cases will never have any issue.
>>321232378
Depends how shady and cheap.
$30~$40 of well know brands? yes, more than enough.
there is a chance it will fuck everything or burn but roll the dice and see.
>>321232378
CX430s are routinely $15-20
Either get Skylake 6xxx series processors or see if Zen actually comes out next year.
>>321232624
Something like this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170016&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
All it will do is power a desktop, not power a gaming machine. If this is not sufficient, what are some brands that make cheap but quality PSUs?
is the 750TI the best graphics card ever invented in terms of price and quality?
Looking for a case that is a cube, micro ATX preferably, anyone got recommendations?
Because apparently programming to have your software efficiently use all these multiple cores requires a lot of technical know-how and hard work or else it'll work like shit.
If you want to do hard work, then you go into writing software in a sector of the industry that doesn't treat you like a fucking factory slave like EA/Activision/Ubishit does.
>>321232874
Sure, if you dont mind noise, the fact it has no 80+ rating so will drain 3 times what it needs from the wall and get hot as fuck and that it may fail.
>>321232408
Don't we all, goy.
>>321232889
Yes, GTX 950 was supposed going to replace it but it failed badly with the fact it uses 90w instead 75w.
>>321233073
Because no one is making money in the current marketplace.
I just want games that advertise shit like enemies on screen at once or complexity of physics over how detailed Batman's nipples are.
I've gotten into a habit of switching from building my own and getting a prebuilt. I'm getting a prebuilt and then switching the parts when needed to.
Now I just need to replace this shit keyboard with a k70 RGB
I'm waiting for zen
I can't wait to get my hands on one plus some ddr4 finally
>>321233543
I'm getting a 144hz monitor next
you should get a second monitor I really love it
>>321233543
>buys OC-capable gear
>doesn't OC
>>321234226
speccy doesn't display OCs
that's why I had to draw mine in red
>>321234046
next one I get will probably be a 1440p or 4K for games where I'd prefer the resolution over the fps. Or maybe wait a while until I can have both at a decent price
>>321234226
You need to manually write your OC trough paint or gimp in speccy.
>>321234456
you can get a 1080p as your second monitor for cheap as shit it's not like you'll be playing games on it anyway.
