This is the best game on the Playstation 2.
Prove me wrong.
Protip:You probably can. The PS2 had an incredibly great and diverse library of games
>>321199992
Top tier taste
>>321200576
It really is a fantastic game. Replaying it recently and it's just so comfy. Symphonic soundtrack is amazing as well.
>>321199992
Objectively good taste, OP.
I hope DQXI is just as good if not better.
can't wait to play it on 3DS.
Is the game easy enough for newcomers to DQ? Is it a good one to start with?
>>321201386
>I hope DQXI is just as good if not better.
If we even get it.
>>321199992
Just brought a unopened PS2 yesterday. Im going to mod it with a chip. What games should I start downloading in preparation for it?
I never experienced the PS2 era. I've already downloaded Ace Combat 4 and Timesplitters.
>>321199992
Nah, DQ VIII was amazing.
>>321201403
I don't know if it's going to be any different on the 3DS, but it's one of the harder JRPGs I've played. Random battles will kick your ass if you're not careful.
>>321199992
It's top 5, but pic related is the best game on the PS2.
>>321201552
Even if PS4 sales have picked up in Japan, I doubt that SE made the PS4 version solely with the intent of keeping it in Japan.
/thread
>>321201651
OP here. This is my (admittedly small) PS2 collection, and they're all worth playing.
Looking to add more very soon.
;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bYmVUxNe7o
>>321202668
>>321202428
>>321199992
This thread reminds me of how shit the games being released today are. Some of them are half finished haha.
God tier taste in this thread.
>>321202668
Really great game, spent hours on this as a kid.
Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 as a whole is in my top 10 games of all time.
>>321201651
Dragon Quest VIII
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3
God Hand
Okami
Devil May Cry 3
All three Ratchet and Clank games
Silent Hill 2
>>321203127
>Okami
Damn I need to get that. I've only ever played it on the Wii and the wonky as fuck controls killed it for me. It seemed damn beautiful though.
>>321202517
>>321203127
Thx mateys
ps2/cube/xbox gen was the beginning of the end
You fucks are the casuals that were to blame for the industry's decline
Le poof poof.
>>321199992
With cheat codes for 4x exp and 1/4 encounter/drop rates, yeah, it becomes pretty good. Actually feels like an exploration game instead of walking 3 steps and fight a brainless no-difficulty battle.
>>321202320
The problem right now is that outside of Heroes SE isn't localizing Dragon Quest. Dragon Quest 7 and 8 for 3DS are being published by Nintendo. So we are at a time where the only Dragon Quest game SE thinks of publishing themselves is a musou like game. I mean I have way more hope they are both coming out than a year ago because we are finally getting Dragon Quest games but I still don't trust SE with localizing them here.
>>321199992
It's not THE best, but it's definitely one of them.
>>321201651
Ace Combat 5 and Zero (by the way, I suggest you play Zero first)
Rogue Galaxy
Suikoden III and V (SKIP IV AT ALL COSTS, IT'S A NAVIGATION SIMULATOR)
Soul Nomad & the World Eaters
Yakuza 1 and 2
Final Fantasy XII
All the PS2 SMT games
Front Mission 4 and 5
>>321205427
but Suikoden V is the worst navigation sim of them all
>friend lets me have his copy if twisted metal when he moves
>it has suikoden 2 inside
Should have kept your shit organized, Robert.
>>321205397
You don't seem to realize that the PS4 is still a mainly western system in terms of sales. That will only change when there are 10 japanese-centric big JRPGs that released, which wont be before 2 years.
So they are foregoing the costs of a translations to limit themselves to 10% of the total system userbase, much lower than the 3DS numbers.
Yeah sure, that's believable.
>>321205525
Most likely wrong thread but damn did you get lucky on that.
>>321199992
my nigga
Nothing can even compare to KH 2
btw OP nice taste
>>321204961
It was the end if we're being honest.
>>321205508
That game was so fucking boring never made it past the prologue.
>boring jrpg is the best game on the ps2
just because jessica was your wafiu doesnt make it great
Every time I see someone praising this game, I have to wonder if they played the same game I did. I really don't know what anyone sees in that series altogether, but I'll respect your right to like it. I'm just confused.
>>321199992
This was the last generation where videogames could still be games.
Damn. How can things change drastically in so few years.
>>321205508
Eh, I enjoyed it far more than IV. That game is just as atrocious as Tierkreis.
>>321205427
>Soul nomad
Remind me of a game where your shadow is a demon lord or something.
Makai Kingdom
Disaster Game
Steambot chronicles
Arc the lad 1 and 2
Hmm... let me remember more
>>321202668
I got stuck at the rocket lift-off scene. Fucking game
>>321205753
Fighting the same 800 groups of slimes every 5 seconds is engaging gameplay m8
But I suspect it's just nostalgia. Baby's first JRPG, probably DQ5 or 6 are the most common for this board.
The games themselves are actually designed, paced, and balanced pretty damn poorly overall. It only sells because of the legacy really. Japan has this drone consumer mentality where they must buy any game with the names "persona", "dragon quest", "monster hunter" in them. That's why they make so many brainless spinoffs of them too. Japanese will buy them.
I don't know if it's the best game on the PS2, but I can't think of anything else off the top of my head right now. Even if I could, I really can't fault you for saying it's your favorite game since DQ8 is fucking stellar.
You know, this is a pretty good game.
>>321206239
>ape...
It's dead, Jim.
Oh yeah...armored core was ps2
Also xenosaga and .Hack
It had problems, but this game sure was fun.
>>321206003
It's a fairly common theme, even moreso among JRPGs. By the way, this Disaster Game you mentioned reminds me of Raw Danger, it's a fairly obscure game, but still pretty great.
I know it isn't the greatest, but i loved every moment of it.
>>321206574
Game?
I've never seen this
>>321206732
Yeah. Raw Danger.
>>321206091
I really only play DQ because it has the closest gameplay to Mother.
I just hope we get XI and it's good, I can tell the new FF and the FFVII are going to be dogshit.
>>321206803
it's >>321206772
>>321206875
>I really only play DQ because it has the closest gameplay to Mother.
You do know Mother basically copied the Dragon Quest battle mechanics right? Limited item slots and all.
>>321206803
Literally the post above you man. For a 3D Castlevania its not that bad.
>>321206772
I 100%'d Lament of Innocence over the course of 4 days on all 4 modes. It left me kinda empty. It's kinda shit but it has this charm to it too.
>>321203004
Always thought that DDS was kind of overrated desu. Felt like a FF game with worse production values. Nocturne is great though.
>>321199992
You are a fagget.While I think DQ8 was a great and well done game, I don't like DQ games but I have to admit that level 5 did an incredible work and no wonder square keeps hiring them for doing more rpgs.
>>321206943
>>321207138
Damn...I didnt play that
Thanks man.
On the other hand. COD 1 or 2 where it's still about history. Best russian charges man.
Is medal of honor dead?
>>321207178please tell me you atleast tried DQ5
>>321207174
It was more straightforward, i'll give you that. But I enjoyed that it was more like a traditional RPG with the press turn battle system, and I was really into the soundtrack and storyespecially in the second game where they were straight up offing main characters.
>>321207334
MoH was killed 10 or 11 years ago. Also, PC early CoDs > console early CoDsVasili best russian
>>321207346
Not him, but after playing DQ8 I found DQ5 incredibly boring in comparison.
>>321207178
What do you not like about Dragon Quest? Don't like turn base combat?
You guys are missing the best game of ps2.Battlefront 1 and 2. Best space battle ever, especially entering and sabotaging the enemy's ship
Desert claw would like to have a word anon
>>321199992
Can't wait for the 3DS release so I'll have an excuse to play it again.
>>321207574
are you me? that happened to me as well
I liked the japanese version of DQ83DS though, fast forward is a godsent
>>321207470
Fair enough. I guess I always considered negotiations, demon fusing, etc. to be what really set SMT apart, hence why I'm not too fond of DDS.
>>321207346Yeah I did, I even played the first DQ that was released on snes in japanese without any idea but the problem is not just one thing, is a group of things that I dislike, is not BAD things, but things I don't like. I'm tired of toriyama style and I dislike the combat system, for some reason I find it boring.
>>321207582
Dragon Quests turn based combat is boring.
They are very long winded and uninteresting games.
>>321199992
>>321207574
I'm playing DQ5 right now DQ8 being the only one I played before and while it's good I somewhat feel the same.
>>321207758
>I'm tired of toriyama style and I dislike the combat system, for some reason I find it boring.I'll give you the combat system, but Toriyama's style? that one weirds me
>>321207768
I found it the best system. Every quick if you know what you are doing. Plus Dragon Quest is one of the few JRPG that knows how to actually use status effects well in both normal combat and boss fights.
>>321207908
When I first started playing DQ, I hated toriyama's style.
However, as I played more games, it grew on me.
>>321207668
Already mentioned, but yeah, this game is definitely among the best and the pinnacle of PS2 RPGs.
>>321207582Is not because it is turn based, jrpgs are my favorite games and for some reason I can't stand DQ combat, I even like Warriors games and I found DQ Heroes boring as hell, so it's not because it is turn based, I guess it's all because I dislike so much toriyama style, so I find the characters and enemies boring as hell
>>321207582
DQ's combat bored me to tears when I was 8.
Its a game for babies like pokemon. I dont understand how an adult could enjoy it.
Is Cabela dead too?
I love the survival part
>>321208062
Not him, but I dislike his style in general other than his dinosaurs, and always have. I don't think that'll change even after playing a few more DQs.
>>321208129
because as you grow up you acquire better tastes
>>321207668
Is this anything like Skies of Arcadia? That's the vibe I'm getting. I kinda wanna pick it up.
>>321207703
Don't get me wrong, I understand what makes SMT special. Nocturne and Strange Journey are up there for me, I just separate DDS into its own little vacuum in my mind.
>>321199992
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty, the pinnacle of artistic achievement, exists on PS2.
>>321207908I would say that it's more strange that I dislike the combat when I like turn based games instead of the toriyama style, because I'm tired of watching goku, trunks and bulma with different clothes and hairs. Let's be honest, the dude only knows how to do 3 or 4 faces and you even find fucking namekians (with other name) in dragon quest. It's unoriginal as shit
>>321208105
I guess if don't like his style than you might not enjoy Dragon Quest. Personally I love his art so any more of it is welcoming.
>>321208129
What combat do you enjoy?
>>321208309
Have you played dark cloud 1 and 2? Think of "dark cloud in a star wars universe" and you would get more or less the idea.
>>321208420I'll give you how he draws humans, but he knows how to draw monsters and mechs, the guy knows his shit on that aspect
>>321208309
Sorry anon, I never played skies. It's very like it or hate it I believe. But for a ps2 game it's huge. Not turn based combat and lots of exploration/loot plus a decent upgrading system
>>321208393
MGS2 is great for a quick 2deep4you artsy playthrough, but lets not kid ourselves here. MGS3 is superior in gameplay.
I supremely love them both.
DQVIII is a game that, despite its visuals and rich sound quality, is still flat and boring. I am thoroughly convinced that these are the only reasons that Dragon Quest VIII is getting as much praise as it does. It certainly wouldn't garner any attention if it looked like Dragon Quest VII, that is for sure. This is the type of game that is lauded for, once again, its charm. Yeah, charm will get you through two hours of a Meg Ryan movie. Charm does not last enough for a 60+ hour RPG, especially when it is little more than a huge level grind.
>>321199992
COR BLIMEY
>>321208420
I can argue he has more active characters than most manga artists. And it's mostly my love of non humans. One of the worst things about DBZ was how there was more and more human like creatures. Unlike normal Dragon Ball which was filled with weirdness.
Please stop using unnecessary spoiler text.
>>321208482
Yeah, to be honest I'm 99% sure it's all his fault. In my country they kept shoving dragon ball Z day and night and I went to loving the series as a kid to not being able to see one fucking chapter.
You know those "summer songs" that you find catchy the first 3 times but when you hear them 200 times. Well I have been listening to that "summer song" dragon ball for more than 20 years.
>>321208539
It's Dark Cloud set in Treasure Planet's universe.
>>321208743
The problem is that he uses the same style for all the games he works in, not only DQ, but Blue Dragon too for example. I never watched dr. slump but I saw just a little a few months ago and I found it 1000 times more original than dragon ball.
>>321207668
This game is great so long as you're working towards something. If at any point you're not either trying to catch bugs for Insectron, working on the Factory, or trying to build up a weapon, its slows to a crawl and becomes tedious as fuck. Especially since every encounter boils down to popping a powerful AOE, getting rid of a shield with Jaster (which makes using anything but the barrier shot absolutely useless), or spamming Illusion Sword with attack boosts.
Also it has the Gladius Towers which is possibly the most worst dungeon I've seen for a PS2 RPG.Deego is best character
>>321202517
Shadow of Colosseum
Destroy all humans 1 and 2
Gladiator
Blood will tell
Odin Sphere
Onimusha series
Prince of persia 1
If ya want some horror
Fatal Frame 1-3
The Suffering 2
Could I play PS2 games from a CFW PS3? Care to link me to some tutorial?
I loved Timesplitters Future Perfect...
>>321209108
>most worst dungeon
Jesus I need a nap.
>>321199992
The ps2 is the best console in history . Debate me
Dragon Quest reminds me a little of Drakensang. Remember it? The shitty german NWN ripoff that inexplicably got a following because it was german.
Dragon Quest is a shitty game that is popular because the japs dont know any better. Like the germans with Drakensang, or Anglos with Ass Creed, a game it shares a thematic resonance with (that strange feeling that you are dyng as you play due to how uninteresting and unenguaging it is)
I started playing this recently and found it pretty boring
and a bit frustrating
>>321208924
I can't really blame you. But also Dragon Ball is one of the most influential anime ever made. But yeah nothing but Dragon Ball might lead you to not enjoy it. I don't know why but I reread and rewatched Dragon Ball and Z and still loved it.
>>321209101
I think it's more of fault of Jump than anything. They forced him to only do Dragon Ball and even after that the only thing he really got paid for is to keep the Dragon Ball style. And because he's been doing it for about 30 years (he doesn't even really do most of the art nowadays) that style is just his. Dr. Slump was made before Dragon Ball so it's a bit different. Actually look at Dragon Ball compare to Z and you can actually see a pretty big difference between the two.
Every couple of years or so I pop in DQ8 and try to play it but I always get turned off by the grinding. Does it ever get any better?
>>321206003
You might be thinking of Okage
>>321209143
>Shadow of Colosseum
heh
Other than The Suffering, which is a shitty game and not scary at all, these are pretty tight recs.
How consistent is FreeMcBoot? Will I ever run into problems during a game? What type of CDs do I need?
Also, King's Field: The Ancient City is pretty dope.
>>321209249
No argument from me.
>>321209360
It tends to be much more difficult than most other JRPGs.
>>321209471
Yeah THAT
So much nostalgia
>>321209483
Dont forget True Crime
>>321209581
Yeah, I don't know if I was underleveled or it was just difficult.
I was moving from the second town to the tower and just got wiped by a 5 enemy random encounter
>>321209469
Grinding is an important aspect of Dragon Quest games, so no, you'd probably never get into it.
>>321209108
Gladius Towers
>This 100%
As soon as that cunt was available I fucked that off straight away. Very copypasta style dungeon, hoping to slowly level my shit as I go on but wanting to 100% it this time around
>>321209702
You're supposed to grind.
>>321209901
really?
that seems like bad design desu
>>321209959
Metal Slimes man
Remember the days when Level 5 were shitting out a great new console JRPG every couple of years?
Last gen all we got was Ni no Boring, White Knight and 15 tonnes of mobileshit from them. What went wrong with the JRPG bros
>>321209835
I'm glad the PS4 re-release isnt requiring you to do MIO's 100% completion for platinum because fuck that shit.
>>321209702
Dragon Quest tends to be about luck at times. Sometimes you get a row of enemies that a good group fire spell would take them out. Other times they are all different enemies and you will have to try to take them out one at a time hoping they don't do anything nasty. 99% of the time you can easily get through the game with some well times status spells like sleep or moves that make them lose a turn. Just pure attacking tends to actually be the worse way to play. Bosses tend to be the most annoying because unless you have certain spells they can easily fuck you over. Like if you don't have a silent spell magic bosses can't own your ass.
>>321210209
They became dull and faded.
Honestly I never had more fun with a JRPG before. I played through it a few times blind and I was able to find a bunch of quests that I didn't find the previous play through, not even that I found other parts of quests that changed the outcome of future quests. Also some pretty intense boss battles as well. I never had a JRPG make me get out of my seat because I was so hyped in what was happening.
I was psyched up when finally beating the temple that was submerged, but once I got out it pushed me over the edge when I heard this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1OsApDSIw
I don't think I will play another game that actually give me the sense of adventure Romancing SaGa gave me. It actually felt like an adventure that you had to constantly set off to explore, fumble around being lost in what to do, and feeling elated when it suddenly all comes together. Other games just feel like they give you an adventure rather than fight for one.
>>321209959
It's not bad design, just differently designed than what you're looking for in a game.
Some people really do actually like mindless grinding.
If you could just walk from beginning to end in DQ games they would be complete shit.
>>321210682
I'm not a fan of grinding, but I do like how it makes me feel like I actually really need to prepare for a boss, especially because in DQ, you really DO need to prepare for the boss.
>>321209959
How often do you go off the path? That's where your "grinding" comes from. Dragon Quest love putting tons of little things everywhere (think of it like Zelda). Where if you just go straight from point A to point B you will be pretty underlevel. Like in Dragon Quest 8 right at the start there is a house over the waterfall cave. You are meant to find a way to that house because of curiosity. And in the house is a guy that gives you a minor quest with cheese as the reward. Do that quest and you should have fought a good number of enemies. Which means more levels and gold to get better gear to face the cave and beat the boss.
>>321209459
Yeah, I understand your point, but I guess I can't like everything, and something that uses toriyama style is a big no for me for a few years. That's maybe the reason I didn't find Chrono Trigger so special, even when I found the combat a lot of fun, the style was meh for me.
>>321210609
I'm interested. How well does it emulate?
>>321211845
Never tried it, but I remember a couple years ago when /jrppg/ was a thing a few people were at least able to emulate it competently enough to play it.
>>321211845
Not him but be careful with SaGa games. They usually don't have levels, the characters improve as you use them, and the enemies scale with you. I have played a few SaGa games, not that one, and a few of them I found pretty hard to continue mid-game because the enemies were obliterating my party. Normal enemies, not bosses.
>>321209702
It's different for me because I know what I'm doing, but I only have to grind at one point in the game, for about 15 minutes, and even then it isn't really necessary, it just means I don't have to use items on the boss fight. It's strange to me that you had trouble getting to the tower, the early parts of the game I could see people having trouble would be with the first boss or the boat octopus thing, but I don't know how the tower was an issue for you.
>>321212356
>enemies scale with you.
Not really, it is possible to have it so enemies become stronger than what your party is able to handle and make the game unwinnable.
>>321212551
Yeah sorry, what I meant with "scale with you" is "the game thinks you should be able to kill enemies with X level when you really are lvl X-30"
>>321203127
Extremely solid list. I'd also add
Katamari Damacy
Kingdom Hearts II
Silent Hill 3
And yes, the Personas
>>321199992
>>321215426
Boring grindfest. Second game was better in pretty much everyway.
>>321215881
Even though I'm aware it is inferior to DC2 in every way, I just like the atmosphere it created with the music and visuals. That's just me though.
>>321208778
This desu famiglia that anon is a massive dragon dildo
>>321202668
My nigga
>>321210916
Probably not enough, I'll try get back into it
Made me a peadosexual
>>321199992
>>321218773
How could I forget about this game for so long, it's one of the best RPGs I've ever played.
Too bad I could never move on with the story past a certain point because I had no idea what to do.
>>321201403
Not too hard, difficulty in Dragon Quest is basically just grind until you don't die. Tension adds some actual tactical dimension to battles, but it's mostly just spamming buffs and chipping away at bosses. The only really tough battles in the entire franchise are final bosses, bonus dungeon bosses, Murdoh (tough in the DS remake, diamond hard in the SFC version), and Dhoulmagus if Angelo doesn't have Multiheal. That's it. If you play 8 for the first time just be careful with your skill point allocation, do some research on the best builds. Never go for 100 point abilities unless it's Jessica's Fisticuffs for Magic Burst or Courage for the MC.
>>321203859
HD remake on PSN is fine, but it lacks the final credits song. Much better than the terrible Wii port anyway.
>>321199992
Hard to argue against you OP. Excellent pick.
>>321206859
This here is my personal choice, but there are so many good games you can't go wrong.
My favorite RPG from the PS2 with FFX, but I think I like it more, very comfy and fun.
>>321206859
>tfw I could have bought this and Unlimited Saga for 10 euros but each did not
>were gone later
I hate myself. OP, love that game, I was playing it. I need to connect my PS2 again. I do have the Platinum cover tho, shit.
