Sure PC gaming may be fun if you fork out cash for a $500 graphics card.
But the PS4 is only $300 bundled with a game.
Plus if you pay $50 and get playstation plus , you get access to online multiplayer as well as 6 free games every month!! In addition to exclusive discounts
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-plus/
Basically $350 for a PS4 and 72 games.
Steam does not offer any services like this.
But anon, you can't play every genre with a controller. Nor can you play games from 1993-2015 on the same piece of equipment.
I'll agree its a cheaper initial investment but digital download games are cheaper to buy than a physical disc and you'll always have a wider variety of games available for pc
Does it even matter?
If you have a hobby you enjoy, why not spend extra to get the best possible experience?
>>321183650
This guy gets it
PC gaming isn't even that expensive so far as hobbies go
Just ask anyone who builds up cars for fun
>>321183551
>you can't play every game with a controller
Woe is me that I can't enjoy AoE or LoL on my console. But really every other genre besides rts and moba's play just fine if not Better with a controller. Mouse and keyboard just don't feel good at all desu.
pc games are free
emulation is free
a cheap $400 PC shits on a ps4 performance and graphics wise
>>321185256
Strategy.
Simulations.
Point and click.
You can't achieve RTS with a controller. You can't have accurate flight sims without a peripheral. You will never be able to play something like Baldurs Gate with a controller either.
Kudos for assuming I would be a MOBA fan, that's cute, but no.
>>321185691
Also when you can just plug a controller into your PC using a console is even sillier
>$500 graphics card
I'm not even going to bother trying to educate you. You are obviously too far gone in bias and delusion. I suggest people sage if you are going to reply to this thread
>>321187549
What graphics card do you use?
>>321187549
My R9 270x cost £100 and is the most expensive part of my build, I can run all new games better than a PS4 by a very wide marginI know this because I bought the Mrs a PS4 so we could both play fallout 4 together, the PS4 version is absolutely shocking
>>321183208
>Plus if you pay $50 and get playstation plus , you get access to online multiplayer as well as 6 free games every month!! In addition to exclusive discounts
ahahahahahaha oh boy made my day... online mp is free on PC so yeah big plus for plus top kek and 6 game for free !!!! kek its not like you payed 50$ for 6 indie game that cost 10$ on steam...since ps4 there was no good game in ps plus only indie crap...
>>321185580
>$40 PC games
Not since you cucks started buying from Steam, now it's $60 for DIGITAL FUCKING VERSION YOU DON'T EVEN GET BOX
>ps4
>games
also, with steam sales you can get just as many games for the same price as PS+, and generally even the exact same games since they're multiplats
>>321185508
You can't even afford a ps4 ruggarell
>>321188651
pc games are free
and I did buy TW3 and MGSV for $40
so.
>>321185580
Friendly reminder that back in 2013 when this image was made, this gen offering 40 games worth buying full price appeared to be a likely scenario.
Now look at where we are 2 years later.
>>321188791
>and I did buy TW3 and MGSV for $40
Without discounts, their steam price is $60. My point stands, if you cucks wouldn't buy so many games on steam it would be $40 and you'd buy it for $10.
>>321183208
>Sure PC gaming may be fun if you fork out cash for a $500 graphics card.
It's just as fun with a $100 card which gets you superior graphics at 1080p that consoles.
In short, you're either a very biased idiot or a blatant shitposter.
You're a faggot either way.
>>321188994
And only retards buy without discounts or from Steam.
Your point doesn't stand, PC games are free.
>>321188651
>now it's $60 for DIGITAL FUCKING VERSION YOU DON'T EVEN GET BOX
It was always like that, do you have amnesia you fucking retard?
>>321188994
>My point stands, if you cucks wouldn't buy so many games on steam it would be $40 and you'd buy it for $10.
Yup, confirmed for retard.
I have both. I don't live in false dichotomy world
>>321185691
>Strategy
Not interested
>Simulations
Boring shit
>Point and click
now you're just trolling
>>321185580
>pc games are free
And that's why PC gaming gets largely ignored, with almost every simultaneous multiplat release being delayed a week or two to try and starve hungry pirates into actually spending money
That's why you get constant shitty ports, like FO4 which duns goofed if you play it over 60fps as the physics and sound engine can't keep up, or the latest CoD which, last I heard, changes your aim speed depending on your framerate, so you better lock that at 60 too. Both games clearly had no thought put into the PC version. Not to mention ports that straight up weren't optimized at all like AssCreedUnity, or those that didn't work at launch like Batman.
You keep pirating games while boasting about it, or buying only only heavily discounted games at 1/10th of the original price.
Then you get happy when you get scraps like Nep games, or fucking hyped 3 year old ports like DragonsDogma
>that image
Clearly, everyone has the know-how to build his own 650$ tower PC, it's not like that's a minority of people, while most PC gamers actually own an expensive underperforming laptop, or at best a pre-build tower PC or All-in-One. People don't underestimate how stupid the average consumer is, this applies to PC gaming too.
That chart also implies that there are never PS+/XBL discounts for nearly half the price, or that every console game is 60$, neither PC game prices or console game prices can be calculated that way.
>>321189143
>It was always like that, do you have amnesia you fucking retard?
No it wasn't.
PC games used to be $40 physical when consoles were $60.
Of course it was around 2007 or so, so you haven't discovered pc masterrace redit
>>321189369
>the latest CoD which, last I heard, changes your aim speed depending on your framerate
fun fact, when CoD partnered with Microsoft PC versions ran fine
They've started partnering sony and without even changing the engine in one iteration ports went to shit.
>>321189369
0/10
don't mind me, just playing all these japanese and AAA games pc has been getting en masse lately.
for free.
>>321189346
>Shit I don't like don't count, AAA CINEMATIC TEH BEST!
>>321189375
>PC games used to be $40 physical when consoles were $60.
They were $60 where I lived, in the shitty part of Yurop where piracy was rampant. Though you are right, console games were on average some $20 more expensive.
Still, only a retard buys preorders or full retail price for games, especially these days, so I really don't know why you're complaining that they cost more, especially if you don't live in Australia. If you're that impatient, it's your own damn fault.
>$500 graphics card
>if you pay $50 [...] 6 free games
no wonder PC online communities are better. there's an automatic retard filter.
enjoy listening to 12 year olds talk about how they fucked your mom
>poorfag tries to justify his bad buy
![_shh only dreams now [1366660550488].gif](https://i.imgur.com/NzhzKYP.gif "_shh only dreams now [1366660550488].gif")
>>321183208
>Plus if you pay $50 and get playstation plus
>>321189581
Sure man, I'll keep the industry afloat myself by actually supporting it.
It's not like you can ruin PC gaming any further. I'm going to have a blast with XCOM2, but it's so sad that it'll be one of the few PC exclusives next year (indies, EarlyAccess shit and kickstater scams aside). A decade+ ago PC gaming was so much better
Now the only viable market on PC are mobas (or any other game chuck-full of microtransactions like CS:GO) and F2P games, while the rest of the industry is supported by consoles. Quite sad.
>>321190289
>while the rest of the industry is supported by consoles
That's totally why a bunch of Japanese console devs/publishers are jumping shit to PC.
>>321189346
Points going over your head. PC, hardware aside, will always have a wider variety of games from more eras and genres than your console will. If you want to play GAMES you get a PC.
>>321190434
They aren't. They're just shoveling their sloppy seconds onto PC and getting a pittance in sales 50-100k. They're so desperate they consider that worth a port.
>>321183650
Can confirm car resto rapes your wallet like you're a pretty white woman wrapped in fried chicken in downtown detroit
>>321190434
And sell 10% of copies on PC. Even simultaneous releases like the next Tales Of will sell much better on consoles
Again, all you are getting is scraps, bottom of the barrel nip games, with the exception of Dragon'sDogma
And guess what, even the years old ports you keep getting, you are still buying them at 25% of the original console price.
How many PC DaS1 players paid less than 10$ for it? How many won't buy DragonsDogma at launch which is already half the original price, only to wait for another 50% discount at 15$?
Do you honestly think Nep and Tales Of games are the best japan has to offer? Come on.
Get a halfway decent pc and a ps4, idort life is key, able to play all old kb and m games as well as most pc exclusives, and everything my computer can't do plus exclusives ps4
With my PC I can play everything on max, emulate, etc.
My PC is a toy and a tool.
The only possible reason I would have for buying a console is if I have kids.
Because consoles are toys.
>>321183208
>Steam does not offer any services like this.
It's called piracy. You pay $0 for every game.
>>321190004
these threads don't even make me mad. every moron that doesn't know what they're talking about is one less moron i have to deal with on my team.
i don't even see "Free games for $50" or "PC has no exclusives!" any more. i just see another 360 noscoper or dps that only knows how to autoattack that i will never have to deal with
it's zenlike
>>321190289
>Now the only viable market on PC are mobas (or any other game chuck-full of microtransactions like CS:GO) and F2P games, while the rest of the industry is supported by consoles. Quite sad.
Not really. If anything PC went back to actually catering specific niches. You're crying about the death of AAA drivel on PC and that's a good thing considering the state of re-skinned TPS and FPS games that still pass for NEW ORIGINAL IDEAS on consoles. Budget is not the problem it's catering to wider audience with a product that ultimately appeals only to mouth breathing morons.
>>321183208
Motherfucking preference, nigger.
PC has genres of games consoles can't pull off. Likewise, consoles have games PC doesn't have.
Get both if you have the money and the time.
>>321191138
Why do a little over half of those look like the equivalent of what budget shovelware titles on console would look like?
>>321190289
>MFW I bought ten strategy games alone in 2015
Okay keep telling yourself that
>>321191517
All made by Paradox Interactive I guess
>>321191435
because money
>>321191138
Too bad it isn't doing well at catering to any niche but strategy and weird WRPGs niches
>>321191435
Atilla Total War
galactic Civilizations
Prison architect
And Shadowrun Hong Kong are all really good
Whats with sonnyggers and hating on every other console, especially pc?
Hm..lets see:
>Pair up a pcfat and xbot? Get along
>Pair up pcfat and nintoddler? Get along
>Pair up nontoddler with xbot? Get along
>Pair up sonygger with xbot? Shit posts about exclusives
>Pair up sonygger with nintoddler? Shitposts about exclusives for some reason.
Why are sonyggers such inbred brats? I don't get it.
>>321191714
>Dungeon Lords
I wonder how many times they plan to re-release shit. It's almost approaching Lunar levels.
>but strategy and weird WRPGs niches
Actually, CRPGs are a firm niche at this point. WRPGs are just an all-encompassing term.
>>321191620
I did pick up Crusader Kings but other than that no paradox games. Maybe try harder before you half heartedly shitpost
>>321191714
Me and my friends got dungeon lords for a lan party in like 2006/ 2007. Holy shit. That was the worst made game I've ever played. We spend an hour or two just getting hooked up to each other.
After that, one of the players got glitched in an elevator. His body was stuck in a raising platform, and we didn't have any previous saves, so we restarted.
Then we got into town, and after zoning one of our friends zoned into a lamp. It auto saved, and we no matter how much we re-loaded, he was always in the lamp.
>>321191772
Yeah those are not the ones that look shovelwarey
>>321191806
yet you're the one shitposting
>>321191890
I don't get how you bought good strategy games on PC then. As far as I know, Paradox is the only one who makes them.
>>321192113
Moronic fanboys should get out
>>321190951
>"It's called piracy. You pay $0 for every game"
You're a special type of faggot aren't you.
>>321191890
neat. What games did you get? Always looking for decent strategy games.
>>321192113
Man, I want to like EU4, I really do, but there are some weird design choices there.
As long as you're not constantly "Keeping up with the Joneses", PC gaming is cheaper.
You spend a set amount on the parts for your build, then buy your games from there. You don't have to worry about buying new hardware unless a part goes bad.
With consoles, you're buying new hardware whenever companies decide that they're no longer supporting the old hardware, meaning you'll eventually have to buy a new console/controllers/any additional services the companies come up with the with new gen. And the new console may not even support the games from your old console, meaning you have to keep your old console around if you ever want to play that one specific game, or buy the "console supported" version of that game.
>>321192361
>With consoles, you're buying new hardware whenever companies decide that they're no longer supporting the old hardware
As long as it's 7+ year gens I don't think that's too much of a burden
>>321183208
How much is the runtime of a console again? 8 years?
700 bucks, not so cheap now.
>TV's are free
>"b-but you already have a tv!"
actually, i dont
90% chance you have a PC anyway if youre a console gamer
>>321192349
>>321192113
Well there's the total war series. Blitzkrieg I and 2. Sins of a Solar Empire. Civil V. Company of Heroes. Men of Honour. Replayed Warcraft III and StarCraft this year as well. Total Annihalation was okay and I beat all of the training missions for megamek so that's enough to fill 8 months off memory alone
>>321192576
Didn't you know you can plug your console in a monitor? This is such retarded bait.
>>321192740
A lot of those are old though. If one has been keeping up with releases then one has already played those
>>321183208
>console games
>cheap
Pick one. I have to buy games for 60$. That's like paying 1/4 of console cost every time for each game.
On PC all games are free (if you're not a retard).
If all you want is console tier graphics at 30fps you can get a PC for about the same price as a console.
Plus games are cheaper and there's more of them, and you don't have to pay for online. As well as other things like video editing, word processing, browsing, streaming, etc.
Also when you buy first buy a PC, you might spend a little more, but then a few years later when you upgrade, you can re-use many components like the case, storage drives, power supply, etc.
>>321183551
>This
dumping
>>321189010
100$ card enjoy playing without high settings and 30fps u kek bwhahahahhahahahhahah
>>321193089
Don't really care if they're old though. A good game is a good game ten years later too. With the War hammer total war on the way, bannerlord on the horizon and company of heroes knockoffs being huge on steam I'm not so worried
>>321189135
only retardads wait a year to play a game at .25% the cost of the game
You fork out $500 - $700 for the initial hardware, and then enjoy free games.
>>321189346
>now you're just trolling
Point and clicks are extremely flawed on console. That's why all there is are movie games you can't have the same freedom as you do on kb+m.
>>321193428
???
What sort of logic is that?
>>321190289
but PC gaming contributes far more revenue into gaming than all the consoles combined
hardware and software.
>>321193428
See>>321193345
PC gaming is the best way to go
Those free games go away the moment you stop paying for ps+, at least Microsoft of all companies let's you keep them.
>>321185580
>a cheap $400 PC shits on a ps4 performance and graphics wise
You can only get parts that cheap because they are older, and within a few months you'll be needing to buy replacement parts. I'm not saying PC isn't objectively better but can we please kill this meme that PC is super cheap at all times? It has a significantly larger start up cost of time, money, and technical knowledge that most people just aren't willing to invest in.
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK IF YOU'RE POOR
GAMING IS A HOBBY CENTERED AROUND SPENDING MONEY, NOBODY CARES IF YOU'RE POOR, THAT DOESN'T EFFECT US OR CHANGE ANYTHING
FUCK
SERIOUSLY
it's like you retards roll up to a car show with a fucking Pontiac Sunfire and expect people who are passionate about cars to respect you. Then you proceed to tell them your Sunfire is just as good.
FUCK OFF OUT OF MY HOBBY POORFAGS
>>321191138
"PC HAS EXCLUSIVES GUYS"
>pixel shit
>indie shit
>"strategy" games
4k 120fps pixel platformers ammirite guys
>>321183208
>If you pay money you get free games
This bait has made me retarded
>>321194067
>and within a few months you'll be needing to buy replacement parts
But that's wrong and completely illogical. PC parts last at least a decade and you can buy parts new and build that cheap PC.
>>321183208
>Sure PC gaming may be fun if you fork out cash for a $500 graphics card.
What is with the intellectually dishonestly?
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/149-nvidia-gtx-750-ti-unveiled-plays-titanfall-better-than-xbox-one/1100-6417813/
http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-gtx-950-specs-price/
These cards already can match, and 950 can surpass the PS4.
>Plus if you pay $50 and get playstation plus , you get access to online multiplayer as well as 6 free games every month!! In addition to exclusive discounts.
If I pay for Apple music to get unlimited songs, it' not free.
If I pay for netflix for unlimited free movies, it's not free
If I pay for Amazon prim for free Amazon goods and services , it's not free
If I pay for VPN or Cloud unlimited proxy/storage service, it's not free
PSN is the same god damn thing, you zombie consumerists. Why do you fanboys lie, Service that provides you goods for that service is not free in any economic form.
You are beyond retarded if you think that is any sense "free". It's not even fucking Freeware, where you don't pay for it in any form.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware
Humble bundle nullifies your point. Can get way more games in a short period of time with a smaller price.
>>321194320
I think you have no idea what any of those games are.
>it's not AAA so it's shit
>>321188651
>> >>321193345
>>321194437
I used to pirate everything, even on consoles. I just built a PC recently, and pirated a few games. It was a pretty shitty experience, specially because you lose features. So I started buying on Steam. Hassle free and just werks.
I guess that's how you counter piracy.
>>321183208
Websites like G2A and humble bundle justify the cost tbqh
>>321194463
>match
A 750 shits on a PS4. Digital Foundry is still using it to embarrass consoles it doesn't matter for which game.
>>321183208
You don't get a choice as to what games you get each month, so you're pretty much gambling with whether or not you're going to enjoy them. Consoles have a cheaper initial cost, but in the long term, it's more expensive.
The most important thing about PC is the infinite backlog because we have backwards compatibility spanning decades. If I want to play Dune 2000 or Raptor I can.
Good luck trying to play the Ace Combat trilogy on your PS4.
>>321185256
>MMOs
>most ARPGs
>>321194352
>380$ pc
>and play everything on low
what an amazing deal
>ITT post-purchase rationalization inversely proportional to amount of nogaems on current gen consoles
>>321194693
>and play everything on low
So the same as consoles? Oh never mind consoles can't pull 60fps.
>>321194693
It plays everything on high with a 760.
>>321194693
>and within a few months you'll be needing to buy replacement parts
>goalposts
On par with consoles is the only qualifier.
>>321194693
The potato masher could run gta v at 4K 60 fps with medium settings
>>321194525
>>321194067
Not really, a last gen high end graphics card that will do 1080p gaming well is around 250. It'l last you at least a few years. Especially if you learn to overclock.
>But the PS4 is only $300 bundled with a game.
nice meme
>>321194463
Seriously, I like this post.
I forgot how much console cancer there was in half /v/, holy shit.
I could build a computer for $150 that would play any multiplat.
PC wins on price at the low end, and performance on the high end.
Console fags BTFO.
PC is the best way to go
If you can't afford an extra $100 for a good PC over a console, then maybe you shouldn't be playing games at all
>>321183208
>>321190004
>as if PC has no limited accessibility deals
>but free
>plus literally free games from GOG, Origin, etc.
Consoles are for people who either can't be assed or are too stupid to assemble and fine tune components for performance.
It's way more satisfying to build your own machine piece by piece & overclock it.
>>321188651
>he pays MSRP
>he buys triple A trash
>>321195576
Maybe remove the overclock piece.
>>321194980
>$250 graphics card
>Somehow buy everything else for under $150
Not to mention that guys main argument wasn't just money, but the 3 hiit punch of money, time, and knowing how to make a PC. Those are all possible, but just yelling PC is better ignores how much of a bitch it is to learn if you didn't start out PC gaming from youth.
>>321193343
>> >>321194978
>>321183208
>$500 for a graphics card
sure if you're a fucking retard
$300 max is all you need for a good card. Unless you're planning to game at 4k obviously.
>>321194110
>THAT DOESN'T EFFECT US OR CHANGE ANYTHING
It does. The amount of poor people in the market is what causes consoles to be underpowered and with forced price points of 400 dollars or less if they want to compete. Poorfags rule you, Lisa.
Why not have both? They're both good and worth having.
>>321194948
Nah. It got 4k30-60 on very low.. 30 at med.
https://youtu.be/DH6FCgqQB_s?t=6m8s
>>321194631
>A 750 shits on a PS4.
Not really. There are already games that run at 1080p30 on a PS4 that you have to go down to 900p30 on a 750ti to run thanks to devs not optimizing for PC
>>321196019
>everyone is american
>>321195576
better not to OC until you actually need more performance though, less electron migration that way, unless you're just doing it for fun
>>321194110
That's why it should be cheaper ass cancer, because it's a fucking hobby. And your car show analogy is both nonsensical and completely retarded. Also it's affect, not effect.
>>321196389
get a fucking job
>>321185580
I haven't paid $60 for one PS4 game, they're regularly on sale much cheaper than that if you wait a bit.
Case in point: Arhkam Asylum is already 17.99 for a boxed copy which you can sell off or give away when you are done with it.
Steam has it for 49.99 which of course is a digital edition which you cannot do absolutely anything with except play it on your PC. http://store.steampowered.com/app/208650/
Not to mention you get at least 24 free games on PS4 if you continually subscribe to plus for a year which is 50.00
If you're smart and buy used games and sell them afterwards, console gaming trumps PC gaming in affordability
>>321196197
That's not true.
>>321196907
The 17.99 PS4 Batman https://www.gamefly.com/#!/game/Batman-Arkham-Knight/5007751
>>321196907
>free
>console gaming trumps PC gaming in affordability
Read the thread.
>>321196907
>paying 50 dollary/yr for games
that is NOT free games
>>321190289
>I'll keep the industry afloat myself by actually supporting it.
By saving $5 buying used games at gamestop and giving $0 to publishers and developers.
Ok.
>>321196949
Recommended on FO4 is already NVIDIA GTX 780 and that looks like total shit.
>>321197443
And I can max it with a GPU much weaker than that.
Recommended specs don't mean shit.
>>321197531
So what you're telling us is your PC is shit
>>321197695
No my PC is really good but I'm saying consoles are holding this generation back and older PCs run everything maxed.
Stay salty kid.
>>321197848
So what you're saying is you think weaker hardware can max it but you haven't tested it since your own rig is much better?
>>321197848
>>321198112
I built a PC back in late 2011 - early 2012 and it still runs all modern games at higher than console settings at double the framerate.
6 series gtx and an ivy bridge i5.
>>321198362
Za Witcha 3?
>>321198478
Is this a joke? Even low settings on PC is better than what the consoles are pushing.
>>321198478
Never played it.
It runs battlefield, Fallout 4, GTA V, project cars, etc. either at higher settings, a higher framerate, a higher resolution, or all of the above.
>you would pay a lot if you bought expensive games
You're running out of words.
>>321198665
Low is meaningless. The resolution is what matters
>>321198808
holy goal posts
>>321198808
>Low is meaningless. The resolution is what matters
>>321198945
No that is what was the case all along. I only mentioned 1080p30 Resolution is all that makes a big difference in fps:
>About 70% of how a game runs has zero to do with how it looks or what it was originally on but has to do with unchangeable (by the consumer anyway) settings the engine is put on when the game is compiled for the PC platform.
>These settings have to do with how much GPU processing power is spent rendering areas and models. These settings may not even make much difference in how good the models or areas look(!), but the teams know that most PC gamers have at least such and such a GPU with such and such level of processing power so they will allow for settings with more complex rendering and this will leave people with older cards or even new iGPUs out in the cold because more processing will be done for EVERY single draw the game makes.
>This is basically what might be called "engine overhead" which cannot be adjusted by the consumer.
>The other 30% are things they might let you adjust but some of them will be full screen filters or lighting effects they won't let you turn off. Of that 30% maybe 15% is usually resolution. So you can gain an okay FPS boost by dropping your resolution, but most other things won't have much of an effect on your fps.
>So there, why do PC games even let you config the settings they do when most of them will gain you about 1-2 fps? Who knows. Might as well just leave it all on high and tell the consumer to "fuck off and buy a new GPU" if s/he can't run it.
>>321198945
you now realize you've been baited :^)
>>321183208
PC gaming is as cheap as an Alienware Alpha.
http://www.alienware.com/landings/alpha/
>mfw
>i7 5960x
>titan x in SLI
>4k monitor mostly for hq porn and movies (brazzers, realitykings), two benq 144hz 27" 1440p for gaming and social meme network
>xx TB storage and SSDs
>Steam library full with games and constant updates
>meanwhile my PS4 with layers of dust standing all abandoned
>last time online april 2015
>not one single game that is appealing or worthwhile
If I wouldnt visit /v/ for shits n giggles I probably would already have forgotten that I own a console.
You kids make me fucking cringe so hard, how can you be stuck with 60$ or less "exclusives" when most of them getting multiplat releases.
There is not a single game that is not being released on PC in 2016, and dont come with exclusive weaboo shit, thats for autistic kids and undeveloped males.
If you are that nostalgic and want to play some older games with your pad go ahead and connect it to your pc emulate it or just buy the game for dirt cheap.
PC will always be the master race from low or high end perspective.
There is something for everyone low budget or rich fag and it passes console any day.
>>321199190
>why do PC games even let you config the settings they do when most of them will gain you about 1-2 fps
why do you even bother wrote all this bullshit?
>>321183551
Well, thank you for giving a serious reponse to ops obvious bait. I would also like to add something to your post.
In addition to consoles being an initial cheaper investment, they also have an easier barrier for entry.
You basically plug it in, set up wifi, then let it update/install by itself. They're very self automated. With pc, gaming is a bit more involved and most people would rather not deal with it.
One small example. I won a cheap pc in a raffle from work. It had 4gb ram and an i5 processor, so not too shabby. Since I already own a gaming pc, I decided I would buy a cheap little gpu and only play crpgs and emulated old games on the free pc.
Anyhoo, I plug in the card, do all the usual updates and....there's no fucking sound. After about two hours of digging, I found an article online that said I had to roll back the sound drivers only. I did that and it worked. My point is, this isn't the type of shit you run into on consoles, and while I'm used to pc gaming and expect that kind of nonsense, it's no mystery that normalfags just prefer the console experience.
>>321199190
>>321199207
>I was merely pretending
stay mad console kid
>>321190780
>Do you honestly think Nep and Tales Of games are the best japan has to offer? Come on.
You're painting too favorable of an image for Japanese games. All the Jap games I see discussed on /v/ are moe shit otaku drivel, and every thread discusses every aspect besides the gameplay itself. The only Jap games where people talk about the gameplay and not 'which video would you game' would be Bloodborne or older Jap games. That should be a testament to how bad Jap games have gotten.
Do we need to have this thread again ?
If you don't mind playing 30fps games than sure go ahead buy a consolebox.
I can't do that
>>321199540
>>321199623
Because it's true. That is my experience.
>>321199518
No one cares and neither should you
>>321199686
Sometimes I play games on my crappy AMD laptop and turned the graphics low, guess what? Increase more performance. It's just plain common sense, tech guy.
>>321195994
>>321194980
You're both wrong, the 750 Ti and R7 260X can both do 1080p gaming at around the same level as consoles in terms of settings, and the cheapest 750 Ti right now is around $120, not $250.
>>321198808
I've seen some uneducated post throughout 4chan, your mom probably thinks you're retarded.
>>321199879
Yeah sometimes I do that too and you know what it gets me? 2-3 fps. Downing the resolution is the only thing that gives a significant gain of say 5-6 fps
>>321200259
If you can't even get 1080p it doesn't matter how much bloom and filters you add to 900p it's still gonna look like shit.
>>321190289
>le death of PC
>Total War Warhammer
>Xcom 2
>Rising Storm 2
>Unreal Tournament
>Law Breakers
>Cossacks 3
>Dreadnought
>Starcraft 2 Legacy of the Void
>Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade
>Torment: Tides of Numenara
>Divinity OS 2
>Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord
>Battlefleet Gothic: Armada
>Escape from tarkov
>Homeworld Deserts of Kharak
>Squad
All those games are more interesting to me than Japanese indie games and David Cage type shit.
>>321200451
>5-6 fps.
You never play games on toaster, don't you? Eh, let alone toaster, you just play on your damn console.
>>321200451
Turning down postFX in GTA V gives me an extra 10-15fps.
Turning down texture quality saves even more frames.
I have never changed the resolution and i've had the game run as low as 30fps, and as high as 60fps, just by adjusting the myriad of graphics options.
Why console fags forget that if you buy a console you will still buy a pic even if it's not for gaming?
For example you spend 300-400 dollars for a console and they you have a shitty pc for browsing internet for like 300 dollars.
Why don't you instead spend 700-800 dollars to build a very good PC, ok the starting investment is like 200-300 dollars higher but you don't have to bother with stupid shit like PSN and shit like that, also the first 5 games you buy you it will be aleready cheaper than if you had a console.
You trade few exclusives for a much greater confort/mods/keyboard+mouse/joystick/better fps/better graphics/better customization.
And if money is really your problem you can pirate some stuff
>>321200657
>You never play games on toaster, don't you?
You like non-human, don't you?
>>321200675
Let me guess. GTX970? Or how about GTX780?
Because they're also the type of faggots who justify purchasing a $2500 HD television so they can play their downscaled games on a bigger screen, but then conveniently forget to add that cost to their total investment in their system.
>>321201047
Yep moving goalpost again. Nice to talk with you, human.
>>321200675
Oh yeah well I've gotten as low as 24 fps and as high as 30 fps all with the resolution at 720p
And I ain't playin on console
:3
>>321201163
GTX 670.
>>321194693
>and play everything on low
You know that's what you're doing on consoles right?
>>321201612
It doesn't feel like it.
Besides, I play Japanese games so I'm used to low.
>>321201267
>4K @ 30Hz
>>321201612
eh, that isn't always the case.
For instance GTA V runs surprisingly high settings on PS4:
FXAA= On
MSAA= Off
VSync= Half
Population Density= 60%
Population Variety= 50%
Distance Scaling= 60%
Texture Quality= Very High
Shader Quality= Very High
Shadow Quality= Normal
Reflection Quality= Very High
Reflection MSAA= Off
Water Quality= Very High
Particles Quality= High
Grass Quality= High w/shadows (Ultra enables grass shadows)
Soft Shadows= Softest
Post FX= Very High
Motion Blur Strength= Varies with game version (latest version is at 0%)
In-Game Depth Of Field= On (optional)
Anisotropic Filtering= X8
Ambient Occlusion= High
Tessellation= Very High
Advanced Graphics:
Long Shadows= On (even old gen consoles had this enabled)
High Resolution Shadows= Off
High Detail Streaming While Flying= Off
Extended Distance Scaling= 0%
Extended Shadows Distance= 0%
The amount of jaggies in the console versions is jarring after playing on PC, though. Looks like shit. As an occasional console gamer, i wouldn't mind it if devs would turn down some graphics settings in order to have better AA. It's like they think we don't fucking notice.
![c45d279fc18cd8197d25b9b02782624e[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0xeWJHX.jpg "c45d279fc18cd8197d25b9b02782624e[1].jpg")
>>321201267
>30hz
>>321202132
>i wouldn't mind it if devs would turn down some graphics settings in order to have better AA. It's like they think we don't fucking notice.
This. I play Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U from time to time and the game actually looks really nice except for the jaggies.
>>321200181
Hell i was talking about picking up a r9 290 or a 780.
Both of those can be found for around 250 and will easily play 1080p high for the next 4 years.
>>321194693
>upgrading PC
>realize PC doesn't have any games
>hack a PS3/3DS/Wii U instead
>>321202820
>WiiU
>games
>>321185580
>a cheap $400 PC shits on a ps4 performance and graphics wise
hahahahahahaha !
The delusions !
>>321202309
Yeah i was watching my little cousin play destiny on his PS3 (yes, 3) and holy fuck the game is just one big jaggie.
I can't believe people accept that kind of quality. Persistent jaggies make games look terrible, no matter how high resolution or high quality the textures are.
>>321202664
>that pic
literally go back to fucking reddit with your awful pictures holy shit
Just buy both you cucks
these console hugbox threads are kind of gross
stop feeling like you need to defend you choice of video game hardware
The PC apologists are sad
Just because you bought a wrong gaming platform doesn't mean you have to whine about it in every console thread
>>321183208
>generalize console gaming
>only talk about PS4
Sonyggers everyone.
>>321183208
`If you pirate then pc gaming will always come out on top. $800 pc + infinite games = ps4 + 6 full price games
>>321203191
Did whoever bought your ps4 for you get it on sale? :)
Actually if you want PS4 level performance and grafics you can just get a 120$ grafics card.
Actually you can literately buy a brand new slightly above 400$ pc and get the same preformace as a PS4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipDWbd6HNg
Actually the PC would be even better.
In the end its mostly about optimization.
Badly optimized games work like shit even on PCs 3X stronger than consoles.
>>321183208
>not being an idort
>being underageb& without a job
>>321203358
I bought it
and no i got it for 400 dollars bundled with bloodborne
>>321183208
>blatant PS4 shill thread
>185 replies
God dammit /v/ you fell for GaF bait again.
Console gaming is most definitely cheaper and more convenient. PC gaming however, is the maximum experience. Unlimited possibilities, way more accessibility, way easier for modding, and keyboard + mouse > controller.
>>321185580
>$40 for a PC game
Sheesh, that's high balling it a little. Using some CD key sites, I haven't paid more than £20 for a game in years and I get a healthy amount of new releases.
man the ps4 has some good games coming up in a couple of mounths plus I really want to play bloodborne and disgaea 5 plus all other multiplats
>>321203602
>cheaper
Nope
>convenient
i would say slightly easier
>>321183208
PC has a service like that its called Humble bundle.
You also have summer and winter sales.
You can often get many older AAA titles for less than 15 $ during humble bundle sales.
Not to mention AAA games that will probably never go free on Plus will eventual sell on Steam for great deals.
>if you pay $50 and get playstation plus
>6 free games every month
>pay $50
>free games
>pay
>free
Do consoles get stuff like this? no? ok then
>>321203191
>The PC apologists are sad
>Just because you bought a wrong gaming platform
top kek.
>buy a console
>convince yourself that paying for online is a good thing
>convince yourself that controllers aren't total garbage for loads of genres. Do mental gymnastics to argue that all console shooters having aim assist because of how bad the controls are is somehow 'more skillful'
>convince yourself that all open world games running like ass and having terrible draw distance is a good thing.
>convince yourself that the system barely being able to push 1080p, 60fps in 2015 is a good thing and not a terrible omen for the next 5 years
And all of this in exchange for getting like maybe 3 good exclusives over about 8 years
>>321204152
>tfw most of these are on pc
>>321204186
Why are you trying to convince me otherwise though?
I believe ps4 is the best option for gaming
Why do you care what i believe?
Nice golden face though
> I'm going to use this daily for years. Better be cheap about it!
I get trying to be wise with money but it's absolutely retarded to gimp your gaming because of the cost. Even if you are casual.
Buy everything.
>>321204329
Why this pic triggers you?
There are just some ps4 games
If you actually pay to connect your console to the internet then you have no self respect and should probably just kill yourself
>>321204329
>most
>not even half of that stupid chart is on PC
Keep on port begging, PCucks.
>>321204152
>pc releases 2016 the post
GTX 750 ti. is $150. Runs gta5 at 60fps. GTFO normie
>>321185580
>doing illegal things is free
woah
>>321204535
why the get mad with this picture?
>>321204152
>>321204628
provide proof please
>>321204672
It barely has the Japanese games, I'm fucking mad alright. Fuck you and fuck that guy.
>>321204748
nice anti-sony webm
Who idort here?
>>321202945
I5-4460+B81/H91+GTX 960=$430.
Shits all over the PS4 and around it.
>>321194693
>uses $ as shorthand for "Dollars"
>>321183208
So this is what actual shilling sounds like
>>321196389
>hobbies should be cheap
Vidya clearly isn't your hobby then.
>fast paced fps is unbearable with controller
>no strategy games
>less games in general
>pc does lot more than just games and movies
>shits customizable(graphic options, tweaking stuff, upgrading hardware, using different controllers etc.)
>Steam sales, Gog sales, GmG sales, lot of good free to play games, Humble bundle(+sales).
>no worries about not being able to play last gen games
>>321183208
you're a bad consumer, please stick to console if it wasn't immediately obvious why you shouldn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJN1VvfHO4M
Mouse Vs Controller
