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This is literally the Smash Bros Brawl of Street Fighter. 4 was the best in the series.
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Great, now that IV is dead all the contrarians are creeping out of the woodwork to claim that it was the best SF ever and that anyone who plays the most recent version is a diaper baby.

Inb4 the 3S dickscrubbers start poking their noses into the discussion and the ST "OGs" telling war stories of how they were playing all the way back in the days of "ye olde"GGPO.
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>sf4 was the best in the series
if it was your first fighting game
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>>321183115
>4 was the best in the series
Better than 3, but not the best. It for filed what it was set out to do and will always be appreciated for it.
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>>321183115
Wouldn't it be more like:

>SF3 = Melee
>SFIV = Brawl
>SFV = Smash 4
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https://twitter.com/AlexValleSF4/status/678849775689588736
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SF4 is the worst fighting game ever.
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>>321183567
This, makes me wonder if people even really enjoy video games anymore let alone a specific genre like fighting games.
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>>321183760
Sf2=N64 ??
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>>321183745
>for filed

Can't wait for the kids to go back to school desu.
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>>321183115
> /v/ still showing ignorance in fighting games

No surprise there
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>>321183115
V is Tr4sh
IV is Brawl
3rd Strike is Melee i.e. the best
learn to parry you fucking mongoloid retarded faggot
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>>321183760
No because only idiots and nostalgiafags think sf3 has more depth or is a better game than sf4.
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>>321183810
Nah that would be pic related or clayfighter 63 and a third
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>>321183846
i got meme'd by google desu
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>>321183567
did you play alpha or something?
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>>321183835
Sure.

>>321183886
I don't actually know that much about fighting games but that's the way it seems like to me.
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My honest opinion, street fighter alpha 2, street fighter 2 turbo, and third strike are my faves. 4 is pretty fun. I just wish we got a water stage.
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>>321183567
3S is better than 4 and will be better than 5 from what I've seen so far. 4 has been the worst entry in the entire series.
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>>321183115

anything is better than the beta we got of V.

They took literally everything out of SF that made SF interesting. Pokes are nerfed, combos are nerfed, spacing is nerfed, anti-air normals are nerfed.

The game is so fucking simple now, it's so easy to force people to jump because there are no interesting ways to read the opponent anymore.
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I think I loved every SF for its own reason.

I loved ST because it had crazy high damage for relatively easy execution, the depth came from the approach with the opponent and spacing

I loved SFIII (3S included) because it still is the best looking SF ever and it was a new, fresh approach of the game with the new parry system. The artstyle was amazing too.

I loved SF4 because it was very dynamic with the comeback mechanics, and the FADC system was fun as hell.

I am loving SFV because it fixes some of the issues SFIV had (wake-up situations, way too high reward from easy and safe situations like mashed jabs) and actually rewards yourself for reading your opponent's moves.

I just love Street Fighter. You may love things too, if you want.
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>>321184150

You never played the first two versions of Street Fighter III have you?

It took capcom fucking YEARS to get SF3 right, and even then 3s isn't a perfect game. People just like parrying and the fact that you can mash shit out and still have fun as opposed to SF4 where everything is easier to punish so you get bodied for pressing buttons.
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>>321184174
Exactly, they have removed so much shit its crazy.
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>>321184150
You don't know street fighter. Just shut up.
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>>321184256
I like this guy.
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SF makes me wanna learn real wrestling
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>>321183115
>That's what a 09er think about SFIV
If you are old enough you may remember people said the same shit about SFIV. "It was too slow, it's easier than 3S, the hitboxes feel weird, blah blah blah".
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>>321184334
Every single version of 4 is garbage, I played every single one of them. AE2012 was the least terrible. I did play A3 and 2I but I didn't like those games, 3S was better in my mind and probably for many other as well considering it's still the most played version of 3. Nowhere did I imply 3S is perfect game either but it's infinitely better than the shit 4 is, especially ultra.

>>321184393
Thanks for your opinion newfag.
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>>321183115
>>321183115
As a person with over 2500 hours in SF4 and only 100ish ins SF3:3S I actually like the idea of 3S more. Just wish I had started fightan gaems when it was popular.
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>>321184420
Same
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was your weekend of beta simply epic /v/?
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>>321184494
3S is the only version of 3 that's played you bonghole. Nobody counts the third world shitters who only creep in fightcade or ggpo lobbies for NG or 2I.
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>>321184174
I played about 60 games during the beta, 7 of which I lost. Anti-air normals are the best anti airs in the game. Crouching fierce as Ryu, crouching mp as nash, standing back mp as Cummy. There is literally no way to get in on these fools(except Ryu) because their ground game is so strong.
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>>321184448

except 09'ers are objectively correct about the problems with V right now.

They seriously FUCKED UP the mechanics of the game with this new beta.

Combofiend said the game will be different on launch, but im being dead serious when I think Street Fighter EX 1 has a more complicated system and is more fun than this Beta 3 of SFV.

This isn't about "waaah it's not like the older games" 09'ers want something new, it's been 8 years. It's just that the system mechanics are literally dogshit right now. They might be even more boring than SFxT.

So before you start defending this shit, shut the fuck up and listen to what people are saying.
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>>321184719
I forgot to say that I agree with you. Since the first beta they removed so many options for every character it's insane. Ken has exactly one hit confirm and they took away his one and only run combo unless you CH. In fact the only way to do unique combos anymore is to Counter Hit your opponent otherwise it's MP > MP xx Special Fighter 5.
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>>321184593
R I O v s L O N D O N
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>>321184494

Every person I know who worships 3s and hates SF4 with a burning passion turns out to be a massive scrub who acts elitist even though they suck at basic fundamentals of SF. It's because in 3s you can have fun with the game even though you suck, but to have fun with SF4 you have to get on a certain level where the mechanics become more complicated.
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SSF4 was the peak of 4, AE was the huge decline, it kind of recovered with Ultra but couldn't last... 3s is also great but if you're playing on fightcade, might as well play garou
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>>321184725
That's something a 09er would say.
"It's not like SFIV where I can do high damage combos from lights, therefore is boring!"

Look at SF2 Turbo or Hyper Fighting. That game had straightforward combos but it still was pretty fun, and people still play it nowadays.
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>>321183115
4 was only the best if you never played other SF games which you clearly did not. It was the original smash bros of street fighter. 3S was better, Alpha 3 was better, EX3 was better. 4 was their first attempt at slowing the game down and making it easy enough to play by newbies.
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>>321185042
Or maybe I don't like playing a game that plays itself and rewards doing dumb shit compared to fundamentals, which you would know if you actually played any 3S or ST.

I'm also not saying SF5 will be any better but so far 4 is the worst in the series.
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>>321184725
>mfw SF4 babbies cry about Bison nerfs and shorter combos
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>>321185042
What are you smoking?

In SF4 you can get by learning one or two character gimmicks, in 3 and 5 you have to have fundamentals to stand any chance.
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>>321183115
>not playing superior fighting game
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>>321185556
>not playing both

Not dandy at all.
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>>321185556
>babies first Guilty Gear
There's always going to be a bigger elitist than you
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>>321185339
>>321185332
>>321185331
>>321185293

ITT: 16 year olds who played GGPO for maybe a few months
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Street Fighter 4 died after they introduced Yun. Then it became vortex fighter. Super was the last great Street Fighter 4 version.
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>>321185832
t. 19 year old 09er.
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>>321183115
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If there was one more update for Ultra, I think it would be close to goat

>fix all the retarded hitboxes
>fix stupid ranges on some character's focus attacks
>tweak all the useless moves
>fix moves that are really awkward to punish (Rolento's Roll)
>fix the bottom tier characters
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>>321185923
>honest
What does this even mean, is this just another way to spot a butthurt loser?
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>>321185923
Papa Valle taking out the trash.
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>>321185832
>GGPO was the beginning of fighting games
kek

That was after both emulation and also netplay. What are you, like 7? Quit puffing your chest, little one. Go play SF4 with your madcatzâ„¢ TE fight stick and keep quiet. You're many moons too late to think you have anything resembling a valid opinion.
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>>321186020
Being committed to the choices you make in a match without a "get out of jail free card" like FADC
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>>321186020
SF4:
>waking up
>guess that opponent will attack
>use DP reversal
>they blocked
>use FADC to backdash out for free

SF5:
>waking up
>guess that opponent will attack
>use DP reversal
>they blocked
>eat a full crush counter combo

That's the difference, sperg.
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>>321185657
Niggas not knowing shit about dandyism.

I can't wait to fuck with SFV and Revelator throughout 2016.
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>>321183115
So now what? You're going to mod the Focus System, Ultras, and cut characters into SF5, call it something like "Project S", and snarl at anyone who dares enjoy the official product?
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>>321184595
https://youtu.be/iuwPsStbj4s?t=1m11s

A classic.
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>>321184595
ayyy

Mine was so epic I'm too lazy to make a webm of it.
https://youtu.be/DxBpzrIMUac
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>>321184595

Street Fighter never ceases to amaze me how low the standard of play can get.
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>>321187363
>PS4 playing
>literally 13 seconds of white screen waiting
#4thepl4yers
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>>321184420
I want this position but with Karin.
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>>321187363
>english voices
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>>321185556
no monies sorry
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>>321183567
Fuck off Alpha 3 fag
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>>321183115
>This is what 09ers actually believe

Hahahahahahahahahaha
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>tfw got bodied in SFV beta
Even though, when I got back to USF4 I felt that I improved a little.

I'm still a 100 PP shitter but whatever
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is better than sf4 much better
>no fadc
>no muh 1 frame links
>no ultras
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>>321184595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6QiUqzwmVo
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>>321185153
>it kind of recovered with Ultra but couldn't last

Ultra was the most popular SF4 has ever been. If SF5 were not coming out, more people would continue to play SF4 for years and years to come.
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>>321185878
>Then it became vortex fighter
You're making it sound like vortex became a thing after AE. Vortex was always a strong winning formula since vanilla day 1.

Don't make it look too obvious that AE was your first fighting game.
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>>321193125
But it really wasn't. The only vortex based character at the time was Rufus, everyone else that placed high, as a character, just shit out damage SFII style. Remember Sagat nuttin' out 650 off a DP?
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>>321192715
>this guy is terrible !
>proceeds to get beatdown
Is this guy real or is he just memeing for views ? I've seen more of him where he just plain sucks and ALWAYS blame the other player or the game
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>>321194216
enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtVV4Y3xBHo
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>>321194474
>stop compare me to DSP
it's like pottery
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>>321183712
The best street fight was Rival Schools
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>>321194474
>reporting a player just because he plays ken
How can you be that much of a crybaby ?
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>>321185023
What cammy color is that? Lime green leorard with blue beret?
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>>321195540
color 5
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>>321195780
I'm assuming the cracked beta lets you choose all colors?
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>>321183115
>4 was the best in the series.
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>>321184334
There's a reason people say 3S and not SF3.
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>>321196116
you're assuming correctly
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Vanilla SF4 is the best version of SF4. Akuma and Seth are just as good, if not better than Sagat. Plus, with the higher damage, rounds didn't last a fucking hour.
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>>321196771
If people stil played vanilla sf4, Akuma and Cammy would definatelly be top tier nowadays
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>>321196745
Well then can someone make some pics of Chun-Li's White/Blue alt?
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>>321183567
This 100%
Focus attacks were the worst mechanic every introduced to SF
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbomcBefis
Post some Mike ross
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>>321184595
So this is high level fighting game gameplay... welp, back to Melee!
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>>321184420

If you go to wrestling school with the plan of being like Zangief you are going to be so disappointed it's sad.
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>>321197735
I'm not surprised that it looks high level to a Melee player desu.
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Smash 64 - SFII
Melee - SFIII: Third Strike
Brawl - SFIV
Smash 4 - SFV

I guess?
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>>321197829
well it looks fun
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>>321185923
Oh look the same Alex Valle that talked about how great SF4 was and how Parry made SF3 trash when SF4 was new. Fuck that goddamn shill. At this point even if he's right he's still just looking to turn people on to SFV so Capcom will give him money
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>>321198159
Wrestling most definitely is fun, but remember pro wrestling is a collaborative thing between the two or more wrestlers. A suplex is just as much them jumping as you lifting them, for instance
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>>321184595
Usually I shoot up to the 10000's in a few matches and then 5000's in a few more and at that point people don't do random stupid shit even if they don't know all of their options.

There was definitely some point-weighting to matchmaking, I only saw shit like people playing Ken like 4 once when I had 0 points.
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>>321198829
>hadoken when opponent is spamming jump forward
>mashing buttons on corner wakeup
>jumping back as a reaction to Cammy's jump
>no EX or MP shoryu in sight
How did that absolute garbage Ryu get to rank 692

Did other countries have their own separate rankings or something
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>>321200047
I almost forgot the worst part
>no v-reversal
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Will the King return to the ring?
At least Urien's back.
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>4 was the best in the series.
Are people going to actually start defending the snoozefest that is 4 now that it will be irrelevant. How fucking predictable.
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>Brawl of SF
So the game itself isn't good, but the fact that it was made is good, and it opened new horizons for the franchise?
I don't really follow SF but sounds maybe right
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>>321200551
That's V, shit managed to be more boring to watch and play then fucking Tekken
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>>321200532
I hope so since Alex is in it. I need more grapplers to prove that he's the best.
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2 is still the best.
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>>321198335
>>321198829
>>321200324

What's the focus/point of these?
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The best Street Fighter game is Night Warriors
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>>321183567

I played it in an arcade where nobody knew what they were doing, then I went to college and got smacked on the dreamcast by Ibuki's doing dash cancelled blockstrings

fuck I'm old
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>>321183115
>4 better than 3rd strike
did you start playing this series at u4 or something?
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>>321202195
(You)
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>>321187363
>25 seconds of loading
lole consoles
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>>321202195
To show how brain dead easy Cammy's pressure.
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>>321198239
>how great SF4 was and how Parry made SF3 trash when SF4 was new
Those 2 statements aren't mutually exclusive, removing Parries was one of the better things SF4 did, even if they were really hype. Turns out focus attack was a mistake too
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>>321203013
They are equal in how bad they fucked up their respective games. Though I prefer the party system just because you couldnt get out of big attacks by spending a little meter.
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4 is by far the worst, anyone that defends this shit is a fuckin 09er scrub
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>>321203413
more or less, yeah
From what I've played of 5 I appreciate that there aren't any easy ways to escape pressure without opening yourself to get Crush Countered if the other guy reads it, although I do wish they would stop reducing the damage/stun on things.
Also, fuck crouch teching, good riddance
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>>321183886
.... That's how people perceive memelee though so yes
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>>321200532
No, I doubt we'll get any crossover characters in this game.
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>>321185878
this
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>>321203542
V took its spot already and it hasn't even come out yet
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>>321203542
Worse than SF1? Worse than SF2: WW? Worse than SFA1?
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>>321203975
Worse than SF2010?
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>>321203765

Melee objectively has more depth than the other games. Whether or not it's a better overall game is debatable

Still, no fighting, especially street fighter, has a brawl situation and probably never will
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>>321204096
That one's not that bad if you take it for what it is.
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>>321202548
>12 wins.
>Then he plays like that.

???
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I'd say there are shitty things about every single Street Fighter game but just because this game doesn't rely on the tech of the last game doesn't mean it doesn't have depth.

Maybe if you were actually good at fighting games you wouldn't complain about how "x" is better than "y" because it's "more complex".
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>>321203750
I thought it was just me that felt like stun and damage were dropping. I didn't have any hard data to back it up, so I couldn't say for sure.

I really have come to appreciate the simplicity of 5, though I do hope people start finding some tech when the game comes out to give us some more options.
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>>321203013
My point was that Valle shills whatever the new game is because that's how he gets SCR funding, etc.
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>>321187363
R.Mika is THE scrub shitter character, every mikafag I played lagged just like this cunt
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