This thing was supposed to be hard, right? But in actuality, it was the second boss that didn't frustrate me, after the Zinogre.
He trips way too easily. Needs to up his leg game.
His 140 gq version is easily one of the hardest monsters with 140 Zino and 140 Garuga. Also most of his weapons are incredible.
>>321159214
Steve's alright in my book. I think all of his attacks have a ton of recovery, so he never really combos you to death the way certain other asshole monsters do.
>>321159214
Flagships are meant to be mid-tier monsters.
the only thing he's supposed to do is fuck up raths and have a shitty status effect
>>321159596
Kushala is a flagship and is defiantly a higher tier endgame monster.
>>321159496
Now that's literally objectively false. Apex Steve is one of the easiest ones.
>>321159679
You mean in Dos? Well, that was centuries ago, so it might not follow the same formula.
Still Kushy's not that hard either. The 180 is easily punishable, it it's pretty slow monster overall.
I found that every monster introduced in MH4 and most from 3 were easier and less frustrating than the earlier ones because they were actually carefully designed
The old monsters are all just
>Double tail spin with little to no tell
>Hip check/retard charge with a short tell
>>321159831
>poor little rathalos
>>321159679
Kushala is the lamest elder dragon m8
FUCK Apex Rajang. Fuck it forever
>>321159860
>not being good at every gen
I'm lmaoing at your life
Steve is easy as fuck if you constantly hump one of his legs.
He becomes a painus in the anus when you're trying to fight something else and he barges in, though,
>>321159860
>>321159860
It smells like bait, but this is actually completely true. Watching monsters in 4U actually gives you an edge, since most have tells. The glaringly obvious artifact from earlier games is Pink Ian.
>>321159214
The first one you fight is intentionally easy as shit. Not as if it ever gets particularly hard tho
>>321159860
I have one friend who will not shut the fuck up about me being bad because I die to unpredictable bullshit or just getting cornered. While I'm sure he's being facetious, it's still really annoying.
>>321160091
>Not Garuga
>>321159860
Rathalos homing lel u poisened attack was still bullshit and i hoped that they'd fix it
>Steve and Los/Ian in the same area.
>They don't fight each other.
You had one job Capcom.
Seregios takes way too much damage on easily-accessible parts, including the legs, causing it to trip all over itself. It has a long roar animation with a stun so short you can recover and hit it before it can recover from the roar, and that one attack where it limply bats at you with its feet, accomplishing nothing but putting its weakpoints on display.
It's one of the easiest monsters. It's only dangerous for me when fighting two monsters at once. When you take your focus off of it, it likes to swoop from the sky from out of your field of vision and bleed you, at which point you're fucked in a double battle.
Steve's cool anyway.
>>321160221
>Small monsters instantly start fucking me up despite their fucking predator being in the same area
I can't believe they haven't sorted this shit out yet.
>>321160221
None of the monsters do. Carnivores team up with their would be meals just to fuck your shit up.
at least hes fun unlike pure cancer like rusted kushala, gravios or the apex kong
>>321160164
>barely moves an inch
>get sent flying across the screen
you think they would have bothered revamping their moves and hitboxes while bringing them back but no fuck that
>>321160091
>He can't see the tells in the older gen monsters
Sorry they aren't 10 second long "if you get hit by this you're retarded" tells.
>>321160285
I hate his double sweep attack though. Shit often deadangels you if you try to guard against it.
>>321160091
>>321160164
>Pink Ian and Garuga
>Not having tells
Lv140 Garuga maybe since it's fast as shit, but otherwise you just need to play smart
>>321160435
>he never fought garuga and saw it send people flying before its charge animation even started
LR shitters not welcome here.
>>321160408
Variants are fun but also massive bitches, max level one-eye Garuga is more obnoxious than 140GQ Garuga
>>321160435
>plesioth
FU was only hard because of retarded ass game mechanics, not challenging monsters
>>321160221
They have Zin and Soapland Lagiacrus fighting each other in that trailer but they'll sure as hell never actually do any of that in the actual game.
>>321160530
No I have.
I just don't stand directly in front of Garuga like an idiot.
steve a good boy, he dindu nuffin
>>321160603
>>321160570
I hope in MH5 they do a lot more with the ecosystems, small monsters doing more than hiding in the corner, large monsters actually engaging each other with specific monster-on-monster animations and stuff
>people that call the monsters bosses
>>321160654
Oh, if you want a tell, it's based on how fast Garuga turns similar to Rathalos.
A slower turn means more often than not a fireball, a fast turn means a charge.
I thought you were just bitching about standing directly in front of a monster and getting hit when it charged.
>>321160726
>Boss Monster
>Large Monster
That better?
>>321160164
I know this may be uncalled for but allow me to tell you how much I fucking love Garuga. I main hammer and with it I'm the fucking Garuga whisperer, I can solo its ass all night and don't break a sweat because I love the battle so much.
>>321160790
I'm not even the original anon you replied to.
Also, even if you expect the retarded insta-charge from gen1 bird wyverns, that's when the broken hitboxes come into play. You can get hit even if you stand directly behind it, when it charges.
Of course, you can always circumvent those problems and play with the meta knowledge about this in mind, but defending this shit instead of wanting it to be fixed instead is just stupid.
>>321160957
large monster is an actual term, feel free to use that
if there's anything that's like a "boss" in MH it's the elder dragons, and not even all of them for real
things like fatalis, gogmazios and dalamadur are "bosses" or the closest MH has to a boss
>>321159214
>after the Zinogre
Get ready for apex.
Will the west get MHX? Or do I have to play God Eater next year and possibly Toukiden 2?
>>321161316
I'm guessing since X has no G rank, MHXG will happen and we'll get MHXU
>>321161045
I won't defend the getting hit from behind thing, I will say that if you get hit by instant charges and then complain that the game is wrong, you're dumb.
They all have tells before a charge, as I said before with their turn speed, the only issue is that if you're dead center in front of the monster when it decides to target you, it can just skip that part and go right into the charge, in that case the "tell" is now any time the monster that has access to a charge is in it's neutral stance.
So you should always be able to see when it's coming before hand. Getting out of the way is another thing entirely.
I quite enjoy that style of move, or something monsters can do with little to no build up. I would however prefer them to be on the lighter hitting side, so instead of death dealing moves they become moves that keep weapons like GS, Hammer, or CB on their toes when standing directly in front of the monster.
>>321161316
Most likely not, it's a special anniversary game and probably won't get an "Ultimate" version
you could always import though ;)))
So how's everyone enjoying this? I got into the weapon tutorial, didn't know what to do and quitted the game, gonna be playing in a few again.
>>321161367
Whats the purpose of buying an incomplete game? Are the Japanese really that dumb?
>>321161459
yes, it's like this for literally every monster hunter
>>321161316
We'll probably get whatever the next "G" game happens to be. Capcom probably doesn't see a big enough market for the yearly releases outside of Japan.
>>321161423
protip, if you have a botnetphone, use google's translate app, you can on-the-fly translate quest objectives, parts, etc, after all the tutorials it gets a bit more straightforward monsterhunter-y
>>321161459
If nobody buys the vanilla version there won't be a G one.
Also, japs acre actually really fucking casual, so most of them enjoy the basic games, but not the G rank endgame.
>>321161423
Pretty good.
>>321161636
I remember when they bombed amazon japan with bad reviews for 4G because it was too hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS1LmpiJFaM
>>321161741
Okay, you know what, this might be a shitty chinese pay to win grindfest. But it looks really fucking good on Cryengine, AND this house looks really fucking comfy too.
>>321161423
>>321161741
Does this run on toasters? Minimal settings, I don't give a shit.
>>321161860
It actually isn't pay 2 win. I bought VIP and nothing changed. only thing you can KIND OF pay for is hunter tokens but it is random. The pay model is cosmetic and storage space.
>>321161957
Isn't there the stamina system of X hunts per day?
Also isn't it still in Open Beta?
Why the hell are they letting you pay money now?Oh wait, never mind. Modern gaming.
>>321161423
Do you still need to jump through hoops to play it?
>>321161957
>storage space
>not p2w
Also you're forgetting the hunts per day limit.
are you enjoying the english patch /v/?
>>321160203
Basically, if you see him fly straight up, you sheathe and prepare to dive evade
>>321160448
140 GARUGAMESH is pure, distilled rape
>0frame charges
>animation cancels out the ass
>moves like sanic on crack
>>321162285
>>321160203
Just fucking roll.
Not only not every weapon lets you sheathe fast enough to do a panic dive, but azure and silver los will punish you with a follow up fireball if you try to do that.
>>321160203
I didn't even notice that was an attack until I fought silverlos
to the point where I had arguments about it with a friend
it's such a non threat outside of silverlos that I don't get why people bitch
>>321162214
>3ds up to date so I can't hack it
Why did I do it.
>>321162396
>animation cancels out the ass
Isn't this gimmick exclusive to frenzy brachy?
But then again, I haven't fought Garuga that much, since she shares relic skins with Rajang.
>>321161890
Dont know, i dont have a toaster
>>321162124
There's no IP Block, you still have to do the usual change locale to simplified chinese and "authorize" your account (with fake numbers as a passport).
It's actually really easy to follow:
http://2p.com/37687457_1/Monster-Hunter-Online-CN-Open-Beta-Registration-and-Download-Guide-by-cindyhio.htm
>>321162046
Yes you have 10 tickets you get a day, then 20 on Thursday, no you have no way to buy these that isn't weird. You also earn them through daily prizes that is for all users. It is a soft release, there are no character wipes, and in China it is advertised as release.
The exp cap, and hunts per day limit are for everyone regardless of how much money you have. And as I play more I mind it less.
>>321162632
don't have to change your locale, just rename the two main folders to something English.
Is it better than 4u?
>>321162214
Is it finished yet? I've been holding off because I'm too stubborn to use a .3ds want to just use a CIA and don't feel like replacing it every time they update.
>>321162979
no. all the important stuff is translated at this point. the dialogue/story isnt but who the fuck plays mh for the story
>>321162706
Oh, ok.
So basically a 0.99 release.
Still don't like the hunts per day crap.
Like I can see it getting really assinie when you get to the point where you can take down the monster in 5 or so minutes but need a single rare drop.
So you could possibly blow 5 tickets (as I assume it takes one per hunt) in less than an hour.
>>321163132
Yeah, that's all I meant. Thanks, I'll get around to downloading it soon then.
>>321162779
>>321162779
Damn i just renamed both folders into english and can't play the game now, it tries to look for the client with the chinese characters, any idea of what to do?
>>321163167
Drop rates don't seem too bad. Body parts seem much harder to break but you get a near 100% chance at the rare drop if you do break the part. So that combats that issue. But yes the limitation thing is because Chinese people have no control over their lives. That is why Sesame Credit exists.
>>321164117
>near 100%
>near
Is this like Fallout 1-2 near 100% chance to hit? Plus the Desire Sensor.
>>321164117
Oh it's that way now.
I played Frontier and it let me get 8+ Rathalos Rubies in a single quest.Then the HC carves kicked in.
S.Zinogres Dragon Balls in mh4u
Fuck those things
>>321165116
S.Zin's balls aren't as bad as Apex Zin's balls.
Stiggy balls home onto the spot where you were when he used the attack. All you have to do is not stand still.
>>321159409
>He trips way too easily. Needs to up his leg game.
That's what Capcom did to him in MHX.
In MH4U, you could break his legs within the first minute of the fight.
Now in MHX, it takes at least half the fight to break his legs.
>>321165402
From what I've heard they buffed all stagger thresholds to retarded levels in Cross, not just legs.
>>321160340
>two large monsters who have a predator and prey relationship work together to kill you
>deviljho doesn't simply attack the other monster while ignoring you
Really doesn't make sense.
>>321160408
>immune to flashbombs
fucking cancer
>>321165490
It's not that much different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70sWdwpZxAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bJ3Y4EgkNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYkda0IdIgQ
Still plenty of staggers there within a 5-6 minute span!
There's like 1-2 shitposters on /mhg/ who exaggerate the threshhold changes in every single /mhg/ thread. Don't listen to them. They don't even play the game.
>>321160221
>mh4u
>caravan quest to kill ian or los
>steve shows up wanting ian's ass , or fucking los up ( in a cutscene )
>they're actually joking around and just want to eat you
I hated it
Is online still pretty active in 4u?
I stopped playing back around a month after launch, i'm not even G-rank yet.
>>321162214
Waiting for a finished translation so I can just grab a patched .cia and play it that way.
Really wish they'd translate the dialogue too. Hell, I'd be willing to do a simple machine translation and cleanup of all the dialogue if I knew how the game stores its text or how to do that shit in the first place. I did something for the P3rd patch like that but they shut down before I had finished it
>>321162594
Pretty much all the 140 monsters animation cancel in some way, garuga and brachy are just the most blatant about it
>>321165839
The weird thing about X is that while stagger thresholds are definitely higher, it feels like monster health is lower overall
So you get monsters that suddenly drop dead despite not feeling like you've made that much progress, at least until you get to ferocious monsters
I haven't seen very many speedruns of ferocious monsters now that I think of it
>>321159214
From the thumbnail I thought it was a Golden Rathian and I was going to fucking flame you because it's the most cancerous thing in the world, but it was in fact a Seregios.
Which by the way you're kinda right, it sucks.
>>321166670
The game's barely out. Speedruns for Hardcore monsters just barely started pouring out last week. Like, Efenbaum (the GS player I linked to above) is still focusing on perfecting the regular HR monsters. Give it time. Like the LV140 runs, the Hardcore/Ferocious monster vids will start pouring in.
> it feels like monster health is lower overall
Not really. The regular monsters have just about the same amount of health they did to their 4U equivalents. It took me the same amount of time to kill a HR Zinogre in both games, for example. If you're looking for damage sponges, then it's definitely the LV10 Hardcores or the Ferocious monsters.
Anyone on MHX knows if there are any narga weapons? Just killed it on the 4* village and thought i could use better stuff than my unupgraded warhammer but there's only the bow, no other weapons have shown.
Also what's the best way to get Dragonite Ore? I swear i only get like 2 per run on the volcano.
>>321167373
There is the possibility I just got better, but since the IG apparently got nerfed it seems strange with how quickly I can deal with any non ferocious monster
>>321167704
There are narga weapons, you just can't make most of them from scratch anymore
I think Ping's made an MHX dex now, that should have the weapon trees
>>321167704
https://sites.google.com/site/pingsdex/pingsmhxdex
>>321165736
Both Deviljho and Jaggi variants have an equal chance of targeting a monster and a hunter
