How are you enjoying oddity Hunting? Have you found a way to deal with those Acid Dogs yet? Did you just realize your build won't work?
Underrail Thread
>>321092794
>How are you enjoying oddity Hunting?
It's pretty fun, thanks.
>Have you found a way to deal with those Acid Dogs yet?
Just arrived to the Junkyard, so not yet. But soon.
>Did you just realize your build won't work?
Not yet, but soon I suspect. Once I meet the Acid Dogs most likely. Although I definitely already did have some trouble taking on Lunatics.
Also, this game cured me out of my OCD.
Been looking for a good cRPG-like game to play
How is this?
I'm trying to play as a sneaky jack of all trades with melee and psychokinesis as offensive skills.
Level 4 so far, have to cheese a lot with force field to seperate packs of mutants and finishing them off one by one.
This will be pretty brutal, I can feel it.
>>321092794
I like the idea of oddities initially but I've found it basically just devolves into checking every pile of crap in the hope of finding something useful.
>acid dogs
Gotta go stealth
> Did you just realize your build won't work?
I'm surprised how well it's working. 20 points wasted on pickpocketing though
>>321094116
It's great.
Should I stick to my guns and go completely without Psi powers? Was completely reamed during the doppleganger isle and now Im wondering if I should start using them.
>>321094116
Its great. It...it provides that feeling of self reliance and independence a good CRPG succeeds at doing.
They throw so many crafting and buying options at you, your purchasing options really stand out as "mattering".
PSI is surprising in that you'd think it would be limited extremely, but it's an entirely solid choice. At least in 1.0.
It's good and allows for your ingenuity to overcome obstacles.
>>321095265
>Im wondering if I should start using them.
Aren't dopplegangers immune to Psi? I'm a psi main gun backup and everything I threw at the first one did 0 damage.
>>321095265
I suspect Silent Ilse is a lot like Depot A in that it's going to give everyone grief
>>321094317
>level 4
>mutants
What the fuck are you doing?
Just bought Mental Breakdown. Is it as awesome as I've been hoping?
What is "resolve"? Seems like an upgraded cryostasis.
Do Psi Headbands increase damage of the skill it's made for?
>>321095308
It was even better earlier. The release version added the health malus, and raised psi costs.
>>321095468
There's a cheevo for killing it. So I assumed Psi was the only way to do it.
Is there are way to destroy these rocks?
>>321096045
Don't know for sure. Sledgehammer or Explosives would be my guess.
>>321095830
Resolve is mental protection, what defends you from other psions. It's like dodge for melee and evade for ranged, except it mostly depends on your base stats.
>>321095582
Getting lost in dark tunnels.
>>321092794
What the fuck is the deal with turrets? They just ignore your stealth. I love opening a door only to be spotted by one and be fucked by every enemy in the area
>>321096045
Yeah, if you play the story there's a point where traders start selling dynamite
>it's an undershill thread
>core city is a labyrinth
>suddenly, lower underrail caves
Why.
Just why isn't there a map over the landscape. I mean, holy shit, just fucking why.
>>321095265
If you're not going to invest into Psi, don't take the pill. That 25% health makes a huge difference. You won't be able to stun anyone without any Will or skill points.
>>321096045
Yep, but as anon said it's quest-locked. Just continue with the main quest.
>>321096045
After Junkyard you can buy/craft TNT charges that will blow them up.
>>321096807
>guns when going psi
>investing into any social skills, ever
>no pickpocketing
>no lockpicking
Oh shit nigger what are you doing.
old school rpg with psionics.
have to try this one,,
>>321097358
>guns when going psi
Backup skill. A reasonable measure. I was going in blind and didn't know if Psi would be reliable or system shock tier limited.
>investing into any social skills, ever
Plays into the RP. Social skills in Wasteland 2 served me well. I'm not sure if I should cut my losses, or keep leveling it.
>no pickpocketing
I needed it once to get the keycard. Wound up killing him.
>no lockpicking
In games with hacking and lockpicking, I usually skip lockpicking because that's where the low-mid level shit is and Hacking is for later in the game.
>>321097358
I also use both guns and psi, and guns saved my life many times. Your psi eventually going to run out in serious battles, and it helps a lot if you are not forced to use a booster and waste the APs.
Not sure how much it helps him though, considering he didn't fully commit to it and his perception is kinda crap.
>>321097897
>I'm not sure if I should cut my losses, or keep leveling it.
Don't. You don't get that many options to use it, and by the time you do the skill checks are often insanely high and almost always fail. I stopped levelling Intimidate at 40 because it had only succeeded in one single encounter.
>I usually skip lockpicking because that's where the low-mid level shit is and Hacking is for later in the game.
They're both used for lockers and boxes and chests in equal measure.
To be fair though Hacking is arguably more important than Lockpicking.
>>321098064
>Not sure how much it helps him though, considering he didn't fully commit to it and his perception is kinda crap.
This was my worry. Will still work as a backup skill, but the low Per is going to hurt.
Might be better to level Throwing instead up to around 50 or so. Grenades win battles, and combined with Psi you're going to get hilarious results.
>>321094317
My build.
>burrower caves
So, I can ignore this bullshit until I'm level 100 right?
>>321098520
>Throwing
If I knew at the beginning what I know now, I'd drop guns and persuasian and pick up throwing and lockpicking.
What's the skill cap? 100, or can it go higher? Also, is going above 10 for your main stat worth it?
>>321098860
>psi empathy
Regretting it?
>>321099010
Yes, I presume you're at the GMS warehouse. It's a bonus area you can explore. If you couldn't convince Gorsky you can go the Agroprom level or whatever it's called in SGS and talk to the surgeon there for access.
But yeah, fuck Burrowers.
>>321099170
No worries, plenty of time. Lategame you don't know what to do with your points, so feel free to skip levelling them and focus on other things.
>>321099338
>Also, is going above 10 for your main stat worth it?
No.
>What's the skill cap? 100, or can it go higher?
I've seen people post that some very lategame doors are around 130 or so. Most stuff cap at 100 though.
>>321098860
Looks like one of thos Psi-monks build.
But have fun with 3 Con and a 25% base health penatly. Not sure how you're going to survive.
>>321092794
I'm about to start this game, any suggestion for build and important skills?
>>321099581
Not yet.
Before I try this I gotta know about the combat
Is it brutal and quick or a slugging match?
Also is this mostly solo or do you need a party?
>>321099819
Seconding this.
>>321099765
>Yes, I presume you're at the GMS warehouse.
I'm scrounging for EXP. I'm in the Junkyard quest wise and the first mutants were doable with some inventive premeditation and force field, but this acid is killing me.
>>321099936
>Is it brutal and quick
This
>party
Solo from what I've played.
>>321099819
>>321099940
Lockpick and Hacking. Drop social skills. Commit to Psi + Throwing or Guns + Throwing or Melee + Throwing. Crafting is valuable important if you're willing to gather parts.
Ignore traps. With a detection buffing scope, you can see them and avoid most of them. Unless you really want free mines.
EMP grenades are important. Cherish them and keep them on you.
>>321099765
But in the case of for example psi, Will determines damage and psi regen (this latter together with Int). So technically shouldn't going above 10 would be a good idea for a psyker for that higher damage?
>>321099819
>>321099940
>suggestion for build
Several around the game and Steam forums. Many of them are good or solid.
If you're not going to use Psi, keep Will 3 and don't take the pill from the doctor. If you're not planning on crafting, keep Int at 3.
>important skills
To be honest, all of them except Social skills. Traps and Throwing are support skills but holy shit they are a godsend in battles. Grenades and traps can make all the difference in the world. Make sure to level Throwing to at the very least 50 so you can toss them with reasonable accuracy. Traps only need to go around 35ish so you can deploy the upgraded traps you get from merchants and loot.
>>321100091
Use Stealth, and go see if you can find some Bio resistant armor to lessen the damage. Use grenades and traps as much as you can, and abuse doors when fighting those fucking dogs.
>>321100740
Waste of points, and the damage increase is nowhere near as much as you get from increasing your skill points. Better to level something else up.
>>321099936
Quick and brutal and you will be going solo. If you go Psi you can "conjure" a Doppelganger to buttfuck your enemies which is hilarious, but you will generally be alone 99% of the time. Also, your enemies are just are strong as you are, and they will always outnumber you.
So yeah, havefun.
This is the bullshit I've been putting my enemies through for hours. I'm the real bastard.
Does anyone know exactly where the secret passage is that bum wants you to use to get his knife?
>>321101851
It's to the right of the building Dockmaster Silas is in.
Go to the docks and the piers. Lick the shore straight north and there is a pile of rocks besides the building. It doesn't show up when highlighting.
>>321102741
>It doesn't show up when highlighting.
Of course. Thank you. I like that the game trusts me to navigate, but being able to say "could you give me clearer instructions bro" would be great.
Regarding armour.
When I see something like Mechanical 20% / 3 I'm assuming the "3" is the damage threshold? And ideally I should be trying to get that number as high as possible.
Actually, is there a manual for this game anywhere?
I was loving that 9% off sale. What a cracking deal.
>>321102946
>Actually, is there a manual for this game anywhere?
Not that I've found. This is one of them olde fashioned "figure it out yourself or participate in community/dev discussion games.
>>321103029
It's a new game that isn't going to catch a wave of mainstream adoration. At this price, it shouldn't even go on sale. Anything % is nice. imo
Why should I play this game?
>>321103487
It's fun and challenging. It respects the players capacity to persevere in tough situations. It's cheap.
The more creative Psyker won today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2I7HJMOfYA&fmt=18
>>321093636
>Also, this game cured me out of my OCD.
How so?
>>321092794
what are the reqs to play this. Because I only have my Laptop to play it, but this game looks great.
>>321104391
OS: Windows XP SP3
Processor: 1.6GHz
Memory: 2 GB RAM
Graphics: GPU that supports shader model 2.0
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Storage: 3 GB available space
>>321104927
I can do that ez
I want to play this classic Fallout-style, with guns, lockpicking+hacking, and science type skills. Possibly dialog skills, depending on how stringent the game is with skill points. No throwing, no melee, no PSI.
Is that viable?
Been playing around 4 hours or so, is crafting/repairing ever explained? Any tips in general?
I feel like I missed something cause all I'm doing is walking around shooting things in the face with a pistol.
>>321105313
>no PSI
Just play fallout.
>>321092794
Acid dogs take time, exploiting doors, mines, and trying to fight as few at a time as you can. Try to gather them all up and the use explosives to take them all down together.
>>321105424
My main concern is that I would be spreading myself too thin.
>>321105335
>is crafting/repairing ever explained?
Not really. You pick it up yourself.
>Any tips in general?
Carry EMP grenades with you at all times. Sometimes you'll need to escape combat situations you can't handle. You can die if your opponent gets the drop on you. They're as lethal as you are.
>>321105313
>skill points
You get 40 per level.
Pure guns? The science is mainly for crafting. You can definitely do it, but with science, I'd throw in throwing too.
So this is a better Fallout clone. But is there any sci-fi elements besides PSI? Like some neat cyberpunk shit?
>>321092794
It's a decent idea, to bad they fucked up royally in the art department.
>>321105609
>too thin.
You can do Psi and Guns if you like if you can find a comfortable balance between perception, will, and int.
>>321105879
>Like some neat cyberpunk shit?
Lasers guns, plasma weapons, it's own lingo, hacking tools, skill enhancing gear like goggles, the odd bit of neon.
>>321105768
40 per level, and you can only put 5 points into any skill per level up? Getting max advances on 8 skills sounds like a lot to me.
Guns
Dodge/Evasion in equal measure
Hacking
Lockpicking
Mechanics
Electronics
+2 PSI skills, will decide when I actually know the game.
I may even forego mechanics and electronics, if they're used only for crafting and not for skillchecks in the game world.
>>321102907
It's one of the only locations in the game that has that. It's to make sure you don't get that before you get recieve the quest.
Doesn't help that the quest descriptions are shit though. They were shit in alpha, shit in beta, and shit at release. I'm not asking for much either, just some clear locations, or a system where you can make your own notes like Serpent in the Staglands.
>>321104927
I... guess you should be fine?
Maps are plentiful but very small so there are a massive ton of short but many loading screens.
>>321105313
Yes.
Skip dialogue skills, and don't take the pill from the doctor at SGS, and you'll be fine.
Also, don't max any science skills just yet. Read up a bit on blueprints. Combat skills and lock/hacking is more important than crafting, so wait a bit until you get a good grasp of the blueprints and materials available.
Biology can be safely rasied to 25 so you can make your own health hypos, or just max Pickpocket and steal. You can get over 50 advanced health hypos in Core City alone.
>>321105609
Don't bother with Psi unless you go full Psi build. There are some good stuns and such like Telekinetic Punch, but that requires a fair amount of skill investment to carry on in lategame, since many enemies will resist them, and that 25% health manus is fucking enormous for a game like this.
hi
>>321106478
Wait with crafting skills until you've played the game. Skip Psi if you're not going 10 Will and 7-10 Int.
Also note that Throwing is godlike because of grenades, and get a bunch of points into Traps is going to save your life.
>>321106901
>and get a bunch of points into Traps is going to save your life.
If going psi, detection goggles + pyrokinesis can take care of traps.
>>321105424
>>321107806
stop bullying PSI!
>>321096045
>Lone
ow the edge
>>321101582
Make some webms, shillfag.
>>321108532
Too much work to be done for free.
>>321108265
Maybe he is a Danish girl.
This shilling reminds me of Lisa threads
>>321104067
So did you abuse area transition, or did you really have a strategy? You are standing suspiciously close to the exit.
>>321108889
Nope. American guy who happens to like the lone wanderer character and trope.
I never thought it was very edgy.
>>321109163
>abuse area transition
CREATIVITYI had a strategy utilizing flash bangs that would have worked out for the dogs and people if they had no healing hypos and the dogs moved grouped around the explosive barrel more consistently, but I decided to flavor text the screen transitions into a chase down alley ways and through the streets where they'd lose me, get stunned, or get blocked by forcefield and I picked them off one at a time.
>>321109712
>finally find the deagle homage gun
>needs 11DEX to fire twice per round
STYYYYYYYYYYYGGGGGGG
Why no luck stat in this game, senpai?
>>321107212
No, it's not for spotting traps, it's for using traps yourself. Only need around 35 or so to deply MK 2 mines.
They can literally win battles.
Was this guy a quest character? His men all tried to kill me, and he also aggro'd on sight, but he is a named character so I don't know. I already tested with Tanner that truly important NPCs are essential, but I'm sure Styg would allow us to fuck up some side-quest character prematurely.
>>321092794
Making a Jin Roh panzer soldier, with heavy armor and rifles.
Shame the game does not have a MG42.
Game is fucking awesome, the exploration is just amazing.
>>321111758
No, it's a mini-boss.
Everyone who is hostile is a enemy. No quest is going to change that.
Feel free to kill anything in non-controlled zones.
Looks interesting but I'm going to wait till the game is complete.
>mfw Rathound King kills me with one attack and his faggot ancient rat is not afraid of fire
For which level this fucker is even designed?
How many more shill threads will we get today?
>>321112359
Amazing news, that means that last half an hour wasn't completely wasted. Thank you anon.
A shame this place had nothing particularly useful. Not even an oddity I haven't maxed out yet. Ah well. Maybe the Goddess of RNG loot will smile on me next time.
Can I get a heads up on psionic teachers outside of SGS?
>>321112215
Mah nig, exact same here. Crafting my own assault rifles now - pimped em out with muzzle breaks and scopes
>>321113293
Outside of SGS you need to look for specific abilities in form of consumable items, not teachers. Check doctors in every city but i've found a few just by exploring.
>>321113194
>shill
I'm playing the game right now and felt like seeing how everyone else is doing, so I made a thread. Why don't you go find a blacked thread or a begging thread. Free of shills, just for you.
This game sometimes gives me Blame feels.
Like you're locked in a giant structure with multiple civilizations and spooky shit around every corner.
>>321103371
It'll probably hit 25% off minimum, probably more, once it's been out at least a month and the next sale rolls around.
>>321109230
Name for next playthrough - Coldsteel
>>321092794
This game's so sexy. I'm not very far in yet but I've already had enough wow moments so far to say that this game beyond a shadow of a doubt not only meets the standards of CRPG classics, it exceeds them.
>be my character
>wandering around junkyard
>some faggots want me to pay a toll
>just bought some steel armor and a riot shield so I'm feeling like hot shit.
>burst of assault rifle fire almost one shots me
>stumble around a corner firing back a few shots with my shitty handgun while bleeding profusely from everything
>the idiots give chase, they're all tightly packed in an alley
>throw a net on the boss ensuring he can't escape
>shortly thereafter throw a molotov cocktail
>they all panic and burn
>lazily fire shots into them as they scream until the combat ends
>tfw
>>321104067
>mfw went into this area with Enrage and Proxy already
>mfw enraging the Chiller and looking how he kills his own dogs while raping everyone else with telekinetic punches enhanced by Proxy
>>321104093
Not same anon, but would assume he's referring to the crafting system. Very fun in packhorse RPG/ everything has its place kind of way
>>321113951
Molotovs are insane, they alone worth some points in Throwing or maybe chemistry to create them. Cheap and effective thing in almost every situation for every character.
>>321113194
>talking about a game is shilling
Do you actually believe the bullshit you spew or are you self aware of the shitposting?
Why do I always have so much trouble deciding what kind of character I want to play in games like this?
I pity fools who avoided psi completely.
Psi system and synergies are by far the best part of combat system. I honestly don't even remember something as good as this in rpgs of last decade with the exception of DivOS maybe although it was different.
I'm basically sold on buying this already but do things have hit locations such as arm/leg/head/etc?
>>321111758
>our compound was raided!
>they were a part of a larger whole, we have to leave!
>can't tell them you went to the bandit camp and shit down their throats
bugs me
>>321114721
Yeah but they're handled differently than fallout and most games with that kind of thing.
For instance you can't aim for the groin but you can buy an ability that lets you kick people in the balls. basically all the aimed shots are perks you can buy that give you some kind of small tactical edge.
>>321114721
Nope. Instead you have special melee skills that target specific areas like dirty kick or crippling strike. Ranged characters have special gun skills like aimed shot and things like those.
>>321114720
That's because whenever you get a psi/magic system in a game like these, devs are so afraid of you being overpowered, they make it completely useless.
>>321114668
because it matters
>>321114721
you can unlock aimed shot feat/skills
>>321114668
same fucking boat here
and then you decide on it but you remake it a hand full of times because you didn't do it well enough
it leads to me not being able to finish things
bugs the shit out of me but i haven't figured out how to cut it out yet
>>321114939
Well, it's not like they leave anyway, but that would have been nice for sure. I'm more interested in whether there was a different outcome for that quest. I convinced the bandits that I was hot shit so they took me to the leader, but I failed the persuasion check there so it ended in a massacre anyway. What happens if you pass it? I assume Gorsky would get some new lines, but anything else?
I still have no clue how to build my character.
>>321115640
>every fucking thread
>>321115528
nfi
i started killing them as soon as i got down the ladder and didn't even talk to the dudes in the mess hall
>>321115640
Pick one combat stat, intelligence and one defensive stat.
Decide whether or not you're going to use psi in the very beginning as it requires a specialized build with 10 WILL and possibly 8-10 INT to utilize correctly.
Crafting skills are ALWAYS good.
Social skills are meh but you can level up intimidate for that yell skill.
Traps are meh.
Everything else is viable as fuck.
>>321115708
You missed out on a pretty fun 5 against 1 plus everyone who heard the noise fight. Grenades and Molotovs were flying left and right, that whole room was constant inferno.
>I took the psi-pill despite with 3 Will because I the npc didn't mention any adverse effects
>At level 11 finally notice that it reduces max HP
thanks doc
expertise + 25% special skill bonus sights + 25% special skill bonus goggles + jackrabbit will poop on anything. pop adrenaline shot for three bursts a turn.
>>321116082
>3 will
Ah. I thought he only offered it if you had high enough will/int
>>321116078
i killed the three dudes outside the mess hall before going into the mess hall so it was two 3 on 1 fights
well, except that i killed one of the dudes in the mess hall on round one. manually starting combat OP.
>>321116037
>one defensive stat.
Terrible idea in this game.
You can do pretty much anything in this game and have it be viable but you really need both defenses maxed unless you're a heavy armor type of guy.
Practical advice for faggots though is that you get 40 skill points per level and every level you get a +5 cap on your skills so pick 8 skills to max.
>>321116082
He implies there are adverse effects when he offers the pill. When you ask what he means he says it'll give you aids.
You're about as bad as those girls who claim rape after giving consent the night before.
>>321116082
He says you get a weaker immune system
>not checking stats after taking the red pill to see what changed
Seriously?
>>321116082
The guy says something akin to "Most people who take this pill suffer serious health damage. And by most I mean everyone." How the hell did you miss this? Like, this is the dialogue displayed above when you make the decision, so you can't even click past it accidentally.
I've heard about psi cryogenic ball ability, can anyone say where i can find it?
>>321116648
I guess I already had brain damage
>>321116267
Do the people in the hall react to the fight outside, or did you finish it silently before entering?
Also, I really hate that I usually lose the first round advantage if the fight was initiated through dialogue regardless of whether they started it or I. Maybe it's based on agi/dex?
>core city has its own internal rail system
How large this fucking game is?
>>321117505
Someone said if you are in Junkyard you are about 10% through the game, so it's pretty fucking large considering the size of the dev team.
>>321092794
>7% off
rofl
>>321115640
>shoes
>shoes size
the fuck?
>usually playing with the last raider left alive by mind breaking him, summoning two dopelgangers and then casting fear on him so he runs around like a headless chicken being raped by his own copies
Playing as a psi maniac is sure fun.
This is the fucking game from the crpg renaissance I wanted to be made.
And its not even good in the role play department, but the character building, combat and especially crafting are fucking great.
I really feels like System Shock exploration, does not hold your hand.
I haven't played many CRPGs. I got to the end of fallout 1 years ago but forget what caused me to be unable to finish it. I did enjoy it.
I need a game I can lose myself in. I don't care its only discounted 7%. Is it worth it?
>>321118418
As I said above if you enjoy exploration and slowly crafting your build like SS2 and Fallout you will enjoy the game. Its pretty fucking great.
>>321118418
yis
Fishing quest will drive me crazy.
Is there any specific spots for fish or i just need to pray to RNG?
Game slams.
Psi + Crossbow + Heavy Armor.
Can it be done?
>>321119664
Yes
>>321117447
>Maybe it's based on agi/dex?
initiative bases off one or both of those, i dont remember. read tooltips.
>Do the people in the hall react to the fight outside,
I stumbled on one of the outside ones goign rom to room. they all ran to the commotion, but the guys in the mess hall stayed put.
>>321119664
Maybe
>>321119664
Just make sure you have 8 str (helps with some psi powers anyway) and you're good.
3 Builds I thought up. Each have 8 skills I focus on.
A Psi-op Agent - Ala Aeon Flux
Guns - Sneak - Thought Control - Lock-picking - Pickpocket - Dodge - Evasion - Persuasion - Intimidation
A Pyrokenetic monk
Melee - Dodge - Evasion - Psychokinesis - Metathermics - Dodge - Evasion - Persuasion - Biology
A Kleptomaniac grenadier
Mercantile - Chemistry - Mechanics - Traps - Lock-picking - Stealth - Throwing - Evasion
A Chem-addicted assassin
Chemistry - Traps - Stealth - Dodge - Evasion - Melee - Biology - Chemistry
So, Oddity or Classic?
What's everyone playing?
>>321120152
Oddity is the best
>>321120152
oddity
It's fine. Sometimes I wish I could just grind.
>>321120152
Oddity allows you to roleplay your "class" better because you don't have to grind for exp by killing and unlocking everything.
I can avoid combat as a sneaky character and still level up and get better.
>>321120152
oddity. I honestly dont' know why they even made classic an option.
Oddity allows you to achieve your goals in whatever way you see fit and still gain equal xp to a combat character.
Brilliant idea and every single rpg in existence would be improved by a similar system.
>>321120703
It was a super smart idea.
Your learning about the lore at the same time by these little blurbs, so learning about stuff and reading the oddities are rewarding.
>>321120703
i played a bit on classic and a bit on oddity
classic seemed to give more xp, but i wasn't paying enough attention to make a real comparison
classic still gave xp for oddities
>>321092794
Why is the font in this game so shit and hard to read. I want to play this but the text is throwing me off.
>doppleganger isle
Am I supposed to kill this first one or not?
>>321121393
Because you need to use some of your NEETbux to buy new glasses.
>>321121393
bandaid fix is to just lower the resolution
not like you're missing muh gfx with this game so the larger hud/text is worth it
Are any base skills kind of worthless?
I should've gone with guns instead of crossbows. at least i didn't put a lot of points into it yet.
>>321121557
Stay in the lit areas and don't let strange feeling stack and there won't be a problem.
>>321121670
It all depends on your build.
I could see dodge (melee defense) being worthless if you're a long range guy or obviously hte psi skills if you don't plan to get red pilled.
mainly it seems you want either bows or throwing for special kinds of damage. You're not going to do shit to a robot without the ability to electricute them and you're going to get gangraped if you don't have some kind of aoe attack.
>>321122246
just "solved" the mystery. was not as bad as I thought. Take care of the rathounds and run.
>>321121557
What's the recommended level for that area?
I sorta..KINDA...wish this was game that allowed a party. I know it would shit on the balance, but turn based RPGs are great for parties.
>this fishing quest
If the reward isn't a new psi ability of a skill point, I think I'm done.
>>321122627
Not sure.
I just solved it at level 7. Alpha rathounds and psi beetles
>>321122409
What? What did you discover? I just took the cargo and left.
>>321122880
Thanks, that doesn't sound too difficult. I think I'll give it a look tomorrow since I'm back at SGS anyway.
>>321123159
>What did you discover
>>321123159
>cargo
Wow. We both missed something.
Inside of the cave there's amysterious obelisk that confers a vision and technique to the psychically inclined.
>>321122751
Love fishing, it's so relaxing. What do you have to fish for?
>>321123472
Why the fuck can I sneak past roaming sentry bots but stationary guns instantly see through stealth. Fucking stupid.
>>321122658
I disagree. Soloing shit in this game feels great because I'm alone and I have to figure out a way to batman groups of enemies with different strengths and weaknesses.
If I had a party I could just have a second and third fiddle who were good at everything I'm not good at and it'd remove that feeling.
I just broke into the house. I hope vilmer didn't have a quest.
>>321123689
True.
>>321123684
pentapus, slackjaw, black dragon, phantom jelly ghost face, angler fish, demon squid, red shrimp. walking fish
>>321121670
Yeah like >>321122301 said depends on your build. Dodge/evade are useless if you want to rock heavy armor as it will get reduce to pretty much nothing anyway, gstting psy knicks off 25% of your hp so if you want to be a damage taking monster you probably don't want it, ect
>>321123689
The encounters just need to be harder if you can play with a party.
Avernum has some pretty tough fights and you play it with a 4-man party.
>>321124000
Psi with heavy armor is pretty viable even without constitution if you put points into crafting and get yourself a good vest with psi beetle carapace.
>>321123957
Ah, so the rares. I think I already have all of them except for the shrimp, but usually I only find colored-name fishes about once out of five catches.
>>321122658
Nah I much prefer the whole Stalker vibe
Now that I think about it the similarities to stalker are probably what I'm enjoying the most
>SGS pushes its own internal currency that isn't accepted anywhere else
I will ditch those faggots at fist opportunity and run off to Protectorate.
>trade limitations
Yay or Nay
It was always kind of silly that you could sell a doctor 40 rusty knives or something, but now I've got a locker full of shit vendors are too discerning to buy.
Perhaps I should pick up more crafting skills.
>>321122658
Dunno, I love that it's solo. The whole atmosphere and the idea that despite being part of a community they fully expect you to be self-reliant works much better this way.
Although I'm sure Jack and Ezra would make amazing companions.
>>321125060
They are fine by itself but game limits inventory size too fucking much. It's tiring to run back and put shit into your own room.
>>321124863
>SGS pushes its own internal currency that isn't accepted anywhere else
It really isn't that bad. You can buy from them and keep your coins to the side for other factions. It's not as if they suffer from starter zone vendor uselessness. They'll have things you want for the entire game.
>>321124740
Its a mix of everything that makes crpgs great, moody synth music, practical graphics, good character building, loneliness, survival, good setting.
I really hope the creator keeps on making games.
Would fucking love for a fantasy equivalent dungeon romp with good companions.
>>321125060
I dont mind them, its a bit harsh but I hate when vendors become trash dumps.
>>321125060
Yay, but mainly because it fits the setting so well.
>>321125060
More games need a system of converting items into currency at a reduced rate like Runescape's alchemy.
I've just shoved all the shit I can't sell or carry into a barrel near the bar in core city
>>321125181
>It's tiring to run back and put shit into your own room.
This part isn't so bad for me. The returning home to re-equip before setting out feels nice. The only shame is there's no dialogue to or music to match that feeling.
I have seen some good Intimidate conversations, but what about persuade, is it worth it in the long run?
>>321125414
>what about persuade
It's been near useless so far. I got a key to a burrower nest that fucks me up too badly to explore and thats it.
>>321123689
I think having a follower every now and then wouldn't have been too overpowered.
>>321125571
I have zero persuasion and Gorsky still handed me the key back at the base.
>>321125907
Fuck this stat then. Waste of 45 points.
>>321126006
Hey, at least it helps with psi synergy.
>>321126224
Yeah but will you use it later?
I mean come on.
>>321126006
Use cheat engine table from their forums and throw it into actually useful ones.
>>321126224
I wish. If i'm reading this right, only mercantile synergizes.
Is electronics useful for building rifles?
>>321126601
You need some (30 ?) if you want to install certain mods, there's only one that scales with your skill though.
>>321126407
it's alright. part of the experience in a crpg. realizing a stat is fucking useless.
>>321126435
I don't think so. At level 7 with 10 will you have 67 effective skill points in these four skills. At the same level with same will but no persuasion I only had 60.
>>321126973
Check your equipment, it's probably coming from psi crown or something.
>you will never wreck shit with Rat King being your partner
>>321125217
What the fuck is even going on in this picture?
Are psi headbands the only thing that increase the psi cap?
>>321127138
Look at his build >>321096807
It clearly looks like synergy.
>>321127334
Heavy Metal
>>321127334
Moebius is going on.
So is this game worth the money? I liked Fallout 1 and 2.
>>321127334
Oh, just the guy Kirkbride tries so hard to mimic.
>>321127625
It is, but it's a niche game. Just because you liked FO 1-2 there's no guarantee you are going to like this too. What did you like in those games?
Is throwing good for grenades? I seem to hit with them anyway.
>>321127879
The writing and the simple yet fun combat.
>>321127950
I've got 20 points in throwing because I was fed up of my character tossing molotovs at his feet and it seems to help a bit but I'll still often miss by several tiles
Rip in peace you magnificent bastard.
>>321128117
The writing isn't nearly as good and the combat is complicated unless you take psi.
>>321128396
The Rathound King did nothing wrong.
>>321127950
>>321129785
protectorate dindu nuffin
>>321128117
If you want good writing this is not your game.
I got UnderRail in a green light bundle and got a steam key for it. Never touched it. Its it really enjoyable /v/?
>>321128396
Had to rig the whole entrance with traps and attack first to kill that asshole.
>>321130267
It's pretty good.
This is the first time I've ever refunded a game on steam before. You people must be really thirsty for an RPG to think this shit is any good.
>>321127723
So fucking true.
>>321128117
The writing definitely splits people, as it's often slightly awkward (main dev is not a native English speaker, Serbian guy) and it's not particularly deep, as people seem to expect intellectual discourse from their rpg for some reason. However I find it serviceable, and at times charming. It's not one of the games strengths though, that'd be the combat, exploration and atmosphere.
>>321130532
Rest in peace Moebius.
>>321130679
Its not that bad. Its good for what it is.
>>321113098
Killed him on hard at about level 10 with a heavy gunner character. You can get guys from the camp to help you.
>>321127723
That's what I thought it was at first glance.
>>321130679
Personally I enjoy the writing for what it is, but this is not a storyfag game. This is a similar situation to whether Pokemon was better when it had minimal story and dialogue but great atmosphere, compared to now when it also tries to force some shitty plot on you. Or whether BG1 with its minimalist story but good exploration was better or worse than BG2 with its linearity but tighter story. It's all about preference.
"Special attacks" means everything that is not a basic attack, right? Is burst fire a special attack?
>finally get to depot a
>mines everywhere and basically kill me in one hit
oh it's gonna be one of those places eh? the good news is enemies are dumb and walk into the mines themselves so that helps me out a bit.
How does dodge work in this game? Should I invest in it even if I'm a heavy armor wearing sledgehammer user with 5 agility?
>>321134623
It's affected by armor penalty so no.
>>321134623
copy pasted from elsewhere
"Dodge and Evasion are the go-to for almost any conceivable Stealth-based character. Pump that Agility up and reap massive rewards from your 3 main defensive skills. Light armor fits into these with no or very few penalties, providing a slight amount of protection but mainly skill bonuses and whatnot. D/E will not save you alone. Use your Stealth to initiate and give yourself better odds in the fight."
" Dodge/Evasion do not combine with heavy armor because heavy armor means massive penalties to Dodge/Evasion (and Stealth)."
synergy isn't really there
>>321131160
That small exposition for Wyatt was a great moment imo. Makes me wish there was more writing but I guess the minimalism has it's charm.
>>321133006
If you think that's bad you should wait to get to the Rathound king's lair.
>>321134756
>>321134779
well fuck, atleast this game hands out skill points like candy so it doesnt really matter if i wasted them
Why can't i raise hacking anymore?
>>321135654
nevermind i'm blind
>>321135654
the limit is based on your level
>>321135839
well shit, guess i won't be hacking this terminal then.
>>321135469
You're not taking crafting at all so it's not surprising. At the same time if you fall behind on some skills you'll find yourself lacking later on.
I like the game so far but jesus fuck i fucking suck in combat.
I can hit my target and all but my weapons are so god damn shitty, the fact that i have no ammo and none of the faggots wants to buy the shit i have makes ammo even more rare.
I been mostly stealthing though the early game nowand i got Newton kill by those PSI faggots because i didnt do combat and i was fucking dying so i sent him wishing he could escape...RIP
>>321136068
Relying on a single type of weapon for combat is usually a pretty bad idea, especially in hard.
>>321136397
That is because i havent even gotten a new weapon, my crossbow and Pistol do around -10 dmg.
I dont have the money to buy an upgrade and even so, i dont even have the ammo to use it.
>>321136570
Use traps and grenades, grenades being your best bet against psi beetles, even at 20% hit they should still be in the explosion radius.
>>321136570
Side note north of the compound where Newton was is a second city with additional vendors, They use a different currency from the SGS was hope they want to buy your stuff.
>>321137557
He sounds like he's a little early to be shopping around with Stygians.
Im not sure how the game is supposed to play for a non-psi user though.
