Any mmos worth playing right now thats not wow or xiv?
PSO2
>>321071298
>playing mmos
Black Desert Online
rip cbt1
>>321071298
not really tbqh
pso2 is not an mmo and also it's shit
skyforge, but is f2p
>>321071298Xenoblade Chronicles X
>>321071731
>worth playing
that shit died within the first week of release because it was so fucking terrible
huge waste of potential
>>321071298
If you are a fan of the show and enjoy shooting at spaceships, I can recommend giving Star Trek Online a spin.
>>321071298
Warframe is actually fun to play, just really grindy, which is the whole point I guess. And devs are constantly doing work with it, I'm still suprised at the speed they give new content and characters, even though I don't play it anymore.
Monster Hunter is also PSO-like (lobby-based)
You can try out DragonsDogmaOnline with a partial english patch and play with english players on a specific server, but most of it is still jap.
As someone mentioned already, Skyforge is also a thing. I loved the Necomancer's gameplay. It's half lobby-based and half "open world". Only fun to play with a friend though
WoW and XIV are the best "true" MMO options right now. XIV more so.
>>321074210
XIV is pretty awful.
>>321074327
Not at all. Not compared to every MMO out there. Unless you think the whole genre as a whole is awful, then fine. But within it FXIV isn't bad at all.
Even if you think the very top of end-game lacks content or whatever else, it would still take OP 200+ hours to get there, and in the meanwhile he'd be having fun for the money investment
I only played the free month with a friend, got to max lvl and delved into some earaly end-game content. For the money I spent on the game I had a lot of fun.
>>321074965
>and in the meanwhile he'd be having fun for the money investment
Oh yes, there's nothing more fun than a generic "kill X, do dungeon, retrieve Y" system than when you tack a 2.5 global second cooldown on it while leveling.
He's sure to have a BLAST.
>>321071298
Archeage is the best right now, still waiting for black desert and shit
>>321075067
>when you tack a 2.5 global second cooldown on it
But every class has abilities outside of that cooldown, you are almost always supposed to chime in other skills in-between that cooldown. I thought the Summoner was fun to play, taking care of DoTs in a group of enemies and managing my second resource, whatever it was called.
So instead of calling FXIV pure shit, why don't you give examples of 3 MMOs you think are better than it and we go from there? I have no idea of your tastes yet.
you could develope some taste and play a real game like Ragnarok Online or Lineage 2
>>321074965
>very nearly no class customization like talent trees or so
>good
no
>>321074965
Yes but you have to pay to grind for gear that gets outdated by the time you get it
Its bullshit
I wish I had just played for the free month and put it away rather than starting from the awesomeness that was 1.0
Never again.
>>321075471
>But every class has abilities outside of that cooldown
I keep seeing this argument used over and over again. I've gotten a character to 50, and most of the time I would still be standing around waiting for that 2.5 GCD to come back up, because there really was not that many abilities to use in between, and if there was, there were long cooldowns. What also annoyed me is the fact that there was absolutely nothing separating me from the next joe blow who shared my level and job. No talents, no choices, no diversity.
>why don't you give examples of 3 MMOs you think are better than it and we go from there?
The MMO industry as a whole is in shambles. More gimmicky bullshit keeps coming out like Blade & Soul that relies solely on their gimmick to be good rather than just making the entire game good.
You know what the best MMO out right now is?SWGEMU
Prove me wrong.
>>321075667
there's no point in talent trees when the game lets you play as every role on a single character
>>321076190
What's the logic behind that? You are still exactly the same as the next player with your job. You can switch jobs so you can be exactly the same as someone else with that new job. Woohoo?
No customization, no choices, no diversity.
>>321075968
>most of the time I would still be standing around waiting for that 2.5 GCD to come back up
sounds like you need to learn how to combo your oGCDs
>>321076340
>taskbar combat
How boring.
>>321076340
You know, I could make a video without showing my hotbar at all and just focus on my animations which last around 2 - 2.5 seconds and have it look impressive like the combat is fast or something.
>>321076340
Now post that with a visible hotkey bar.
>>321075968
>SWGEMU
We can never recapture the magic Anon... Just let go...
>>321076286
Skill makes the difference m9
Dragon's Dogma Online.
Old School Runescape bby <3
>>321076286
what's the point of choices when it always boils down to cookie cutter shit in MMOs?
like why play as a ret paladin when it's obviously inferior to a arms warrior
>>321075342
this
>>321075968
> I've gotten a character to 50, and most of the time I would still be standing around waiting for that 2.5 GCD to come back up
What class did you play? neither mine or my friend's had that problem
>The MMO industry as a whole is in shambles.
My point still stands, then. You fail to provide better examples of active MMO's outside of private servers
In your opinion, and mine, MMOs aren't that great nowadays. But OP wants to play one so I gave him a few examples and I still think FFXIV is a good one despite all the flaws. I was surprised by the fact that gathering had a minigame, and trying to min-max crafting level-ups was also fun for me.
In the end I didn't care much for it, but I'm not going to say it was shit. It's still better than 90% of MMOs and lobby-based games out there. It's just that in your eyes that's not saying much
>>321076565
There's no need to recapture anything. The game is still there, and it's still way ahead of its time. The community is a lot smaller, but it's still there and still tight knit.
>>321076608
>Skill
>In an MMO
>A tab target hotbar MMO nonetheless
Pssh, fuck outta here with that.
>>321076340
game?
>>321076746
>You fail to provide better examples of active MMO's outside of private servers
Ok.
1. WoW
2. ArcheAge
3. SWToR
I enjoyed all of those much more than I enjoyed FFXIV. And I played a Dragoon.
>>321076340
>2.5s GCD
>>321076958
I like how you cut it right when all the trillions of buffs you just casted ended, and it began to actually show what 2.5 sec combat is like without hitting literally every single off cooldown ability and buff at the same time.
>>321076340
ninja was pretty fun, but my ping to xiv is always 150+ for some reason.
iirc the mantras or whatever they were called are on a 0.5 second cd, which means without 40 ping its impossible to use them perfectly.
Why do you guys find hotbar combat fun? It's boring as fuck all. There are much better MMOs that don't do this shit, cmon son.
>>321077138
call me when 4chan stops having a 3mb webm limit
and if you look at the hotbar, there's more offensive abilities to use and combined with boss mechanics where you have to move constantly then your cooldowns will be refreshed when the mechanics are done.
Why don't we all just go play Ultima Online?
>FFXIV
>good
Call me when it gets some proper movement skills. Or a "deep" buff/debuff purge/cleanse system like WoW. Or some interesting PvP.
>hotkey based MMO for slow cripples, i.e. console players
>good
>>321077173
They fixed mudras in 3.1, you don't need amazing ping to play optimally.
>>321071298
Xenoblade Chronicles X
>>321077340
All video games boil down to hotbar combat.
Unless you're playing kinect games or Wii games.
>>321076804
FFXIV, must be a new class. ninja or something. I played it summer 2014 so I might be wrong.
>>321076947
my friend was a dragoon too, wierd.
WoW was better up until Lich King. The gameplay and rotations just got way too simplified, why do you think it's better? I just saw a video of the survival hunter remake and was disgusted at the number of things you have to be worried about. So few skills.
I played up to early Cata, but from what I see nowadays it's nothing like it was before
SWToR is only barely decent if you play it as a single-player game. Servers are empty for the most part and the gameplay/dungeons really aren't that great, come on man.
ArcheAge is still quite unpolished, but it0s a different and good alternative, yes.
>>321077340
Action MMOs are crappy too. Why not just play MonsterHunter with friends instead? Or instead of a sci-fi pretend shooter MMO why not play Warframe instead?
It's not like hotbar combat is interesting either, but Tera and similar action MMOs are way too simple and boring to play. At least hotbar MMOs can have interesting rotations, multiple resources and combos
>>321077340
It's pretty fun because you always need to think of whatever medium/high cd's an enemy can still use and how you can react to them.
Of course when all the abilities are redundant garbage like in FFXIV it becomes pretty dumb.
Why so much FFXIV salt?
>>321077807
>It's not like hotbar combat is interesting either, but Tera and similar action MMOs are way too simple and boring to play. At least hotbar MMOs can have interesting rotations, multiple resources and combos
>coming from the guy shilling ffxiv
el oh el
BDO, DDO, and PSO2 are all better MMOs without hotbar combat and they all have better subscription models than FFXIV. Come the fuck on and get some taste.
>inb4 PSO2 is hotbar
It really isn't.
>>321077807
>Servers are empty for the most part
Please don't comment on a game without even playing it first. This comment alone is evidence enough that you're just spouting off someone else's opinion you've heard on here.
I had queue times to even get in to my server at times. The servers are nowhere even close to empty.
I think WoW is better because it's FFXIV except with faster combat and actual class diversity. Therefore it's automatically better.
>>321078198
PSO2 is not a MMO for the last fucking time.
Everything is 100% instanced, there's no dedicated zones.
>>321078285
WoW was better, now it's garbage.
Every class is homogenized, class rotations are now 3-4 buttons, and the combat may be faster but what's the point when you're just mashing 3 buttons without any regard to enmity control or positioning.
>>321078568
>what's the point when you're just mashing 3 buttons without any regard to enmity control or positioning.
You imply this isn't the same exact thing that happens in FFXIV
I'm still trying to rationalize how anet managed to sell litterally nothing as a 50€ expansion pack.
>Four maps. Do the meta a couple of times each day, done.
>Masteries, aka "we are timegating your exploration attempts, the expansion will last longer"
>Nothing else besides 1/3 of a raid, with the promise of the rest of it coming "soon".
female human simulator 2
>>321078370
An MMO has at least ONE instance that supports a large amount of players and PSO2 has that, DDO has that, and Vindictus has that. But let me guess, they aren't MMOs according to you, the one true anon that decides what an MMO is.
>>321078568
ranged dps detected
Blade and Soulwhen
>>321078662
It isn't the same exact thing. Try actually playing the game past the tutorial.
I liked what I saw of Black Desert, though I'm not sure there's enough endgame for it to be considered worth playing. Unless the PvP ends up being good.
>>321078967
why? its terrible
Even PSU is better than PSO2.
>>321079025
I don't know anon. I just want something to be excited about because all mmorpgs are shit right now.
>>321078857
There's a difference between having a few instances and having EVERYTHING instanced.
PSO2 is about as MMO as Destiny.
>>321079021
PVP is great and if you're worried about endgame and PVP, wait for the Valenica patch on NA/EU unless it comes out on release.
>>321079326
PSO2 is still an MMO dipshit.
Fun fact: EVE is getting worse and worse with each update, but it's still the only MMO worth shit
>>321079438
Ah yes, EVE the long forgotten third optzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzzzZZZZZZZzz
>>321078997
this chart is the biggest load of shit I have ever seen.
you know it's sad when you're trying to make rotations this complex in an attempt to prove "l-look guys! the combat isnt boring! just look!"
here is what you do.
heavy thrust -> impulse drive -> disembowel -> chaos thrust -> pheboteamize
true thrust -> vorpal thrust -> full thrust
add in jump and leg sweep as necessary, and buffs when you need them
that's literally it. this chart is a joke
>>321071298
What's the difference between this one and the jap one?
>>321079403
PSO2 is an online action rpg, not a MMO. Even Sega doesn't fucking call it an MMO.
What's the difference between Lobby 1 and Lobby 36? Absolutely nothing other than the players inside of it. What happens when nobody is inside a Forest party? Nothing, the place doesn't exist since the instance isn't created. At least in something like WoW if there are nobody in Westfall then gathering nodes, world bosses, and NPCs still do their own thing.
>>321079624
you can make anything simple when you put it like that
>mash macros in ffxi to skillchain
>mash 123 to do top dps as a arms warrior in wow
>mash D to do combos in blazblue
>>321076669
This is so true.
>>321079785
Literally everyone calls it an MMO, you're the only person I've seen to not call it an MMO and go on a rant why you think it isn't and it's not going to change my mind.
But lets go back to the real discussion before you threw this offtrack.
>>321078198
MMOs are fucking dead
Videogames are fucking dead
>>321074210
>Warframe is actually fun
Stopped reading here, you didn't even try at all.
I'm playing TERA until Black Desert has its official release in NA. Might play Blade and Soul in the mean time if it gets its release soon enough.
Action combat > hotbar rotations
>>321080345
Nobody calls it an MMO other than dumbfucks like yourself.
It's like saying Quake 3 Arena is MOBA.
>>321071298
Xenoblade Chronicles X
>Playing MMOs for the multiplayer
>>321080454
>Telegraphs with mash X > Telegraphs with 30 buttons to press
k
>>321080538
>playing MMOs aloneI know this feel
WILDSTAR
really its actually quite fun + f2p
>>321076286
You're still the same as everyone else when there is customization since everyone use the same *best* build
>>321080538
>MASSIVELYMULTIPLAYERONLINE
>>321080517
Okay, so you're just a FFXIV shill. Got it.
>>321080565
>30 buttons to press
Nobody does this. Everything is macros.
>>321071298
Like it or not those are the best options
There's nothing else really
FFXI is the best MMO i ever played but its pretty dead now and requires massive dedication to ever achieve anything, even basic shit requires work and grind
Even in its super casual state its in now its way more work than anything else out there
>>321076757
>SWG
>ahead of its time
The only good thing about the game is the sandbox elements. Gathering resources is tedious, the worlds are dull and uninteresting, and there is little 'wonder' to bef ound in the game.
The community and RP experience is great, but don't kid anyone into thinking that the gameplay has stood the test of time.
Source: 130+ hours in SWGemu
>>321075067
It has generic mmo quest design, I'll give you that, but it also has fun as fuck primal battles and dungeons. Seriously the people like you cast shade on a game you obviously haven't played much are why /v/ is such a shitty place.
As for the 2.5 global cooldown, it's barely fucking noticeable because the entire game is designed around that, and classes that are faster styled attackers have moves that aren't affected by the cooldown.
It has its fair share of problems, huge ones at time but they aren't close to what you mentioned.
>>321080718
I don't give a shit about that game, I'm calling you a retard for assuming that MMOs mean any online game.
Destiny
PSO2 if you want to hack huge lasers and dress up. Especially if you really like dress up.
BDO if you want to put no effort into killing anything, satisfying combat, and lots of fucking grind. No, don't wait for the NA release. Just buy a KR account.
BnS if you want muh competitive gameplay, be it PvP or PvE. Here I'd recommend just finding whatever server has the lowest ping for you. Ping's very important here.
>>321071298
D F O
F
OPls come play, we're still alive
>>321080748
Didn't they end it already? I heard they added the final quest that leads to the conclusion of the story.
>>321080951
Alright FFXIV Shill-kun. Have fun with 2.5GCD and boring as fuck taskbar combat.
>>321077138
>i have to be using skills all of the time, on every second, or the game is boring
>>321071298
I'm running around Aura Kingdom right now. Dialogue's entertaining, but otherwise its your average point and click game with cute/sexy Eidolon partners
If FFXIV had the same global cooldown as WoW, the game would be impossible to play effectively with a controller on console or PC.
>>321081072
>I want to sit and literally do nothing
go back to XI grandpa. don't you have a TP bar to watch?
>>321081056
the story is more or less going to end but they are still gonna release content updates for shit to grind on, they have no intention of letting the game die entirely, its too profitable
>>321081027
Don't forget the great music as well for PSO2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs_R62ZVVsM
>>321081059
and you have fun getting cucked in the ass you jit,
>>321081234
>2.5 seconds is an eternity for me and my short generation-me attention span.
Don't you have to tweet a photo of your lunch, kid?
>>321081027
>BDO if you want to put no effort into killing anything
Gotta disagree with that m8o. At around level 15 shit starts getting tanky and hitting hard and it only gets worse as you get higher. Especially since they rightfully nerf'd pots and healing, you'll get fucked if you don't pay attention. Also, latency does play a good part in BDO. Moreso than BnS from my experience of having played them both on different region servers.
>>321078198
You lost any argument you had by considering modern ddo good. Extremely p2w aged like milk, and there is like no skill involved
>>321079624
This is very disingenuous to how Dragoon plays nowadays.
>>321071298
Arma 3 Life
>>321080902
>Source: 130+ hours in SWGemu
Is this supposed to mean something?
Congrats, you've missed out on the actual game and now feel like you can sum up the entire thing in an emulator.
The fact that you're whining about gathering, which leads into crafting, of which SWG probably has the best crafting of any MMO in existence, proves to me that you truly have no idea what you're talking about.
I also don't understand how you feel there's little wonder to be found in the game with all the interesting PoI's and settings straight from the movie. If you don't think sitting around in the Mos Eisley Cantina is cool, or sitting around a camp fire out in the wild with your friends, this game just wasn't meant for you.
I really want to play PSO2 but I can't really be arsed to doing all those modifications and going through the jap registration and all that
>>321081883
>Sitting
>Sitting
>And more sitting
WOW I SURE LOVE ALL THIS EXCITING NOTHING I'M DOING WEW LAD
>>321081637
>At around level 15 shit starts getting tanky and hitting hard and it only gets worse as you get higher
Uh, maybe if they rebalanced some shit.
I played the KR version months ago and remember nothing particularly hard. Though I was mostly talking about endgame content which isn't challenging.
>>321081703
Dragon's Dogma Online.
>>321081997
...What?
Are you ok?
>>321071472
>It bombed in worst Korea
>It bombed in China
>It bombed in Japan
>It bombed in Russia
Yeah, this game is fucking amazing, m9
>>321080086
>mash 1 2 3
sounds like FFXIV especially with the 2.5global cooldown you need to mash.
To those that have played and are keeping up with BDO, how skill based are the attacks? Can I play with a controller? Is Blader coming to NA? How much of an issue is ping? And how much longer do you think the wait is until full release?
Is Archeage any good now or am I too late to the party?
>>321071298
EVE, but that MMO is too "complex" for /v/.
Honestly if you don't like EVE, XIV, or some Runescape/WoW private server then don't bother with MMOs at all. You won't find anything better that's not P2W, dead, or have the content release schedule of a F2P game.
>>321075968
>standing around waiting for cool downs
Literally none of the classes stand around auto attacking, save for paladin.
I'm calling bullshit that you even played the game. If you did there is no way you made it to 50 unless you spent hours grinding leves and overworld mobs.
As someone who mains tank if I ever saw one of my teammates standing there doing nothing like you claim to do I would immediately vote to kick you. If you weren't kicked I would just leave because I'm not carrying a lazy scrub who sucks at the game.
Stop talking out your ass.
>>321082090
sick 1 2 3 skills bro, where's your savage clear?
>>321082139
>EVE
>Complex
>Set up a skill order for 9 years
>Come back when some drama happens
>Go back to not playing the game
EVE's about as fun as filing your taxes.
maplestory reboot
>>321081887
mods? There is a PSO2 tweaker (called that) that'll sort out all the english patches for you. And of course there are gonna be walkthroughs on how to sign up.
>>321082025
>Though I was mostly talking about endgame content which isn't challenging.
Ah I have no experience on endgame BDO, I'll take your word for it.
>>321082278
>it's a AFK spreadsheet simulator!
everytime
Had a blast with the beta, PvP and griefing all day every day.
Now i'm quite sure it will die within 2 to 3 months, as every korean mmo on the western market, but i'll be sure to have fun while it lasts.
Good thing is, release is f2p, so no buyers remorse whatever happens.
>>321082191
I've played the game, multiple times. "Just get to 50! End game is where it becomes fun anon!"
I subbed to this game, I unsubbed to the game, I subbed to the game again, unsubbed to the game, each time I would just keep getting told IT GETS BETTER ANON! KEEP PLAYING! REACH 50! IT GETS BETTER!
And then I did reach 50
And I did do end-game content
And it was still fucking garbage.
You can go ahead and put your hands on your ears and pretend not to hear me or that I don't even play the game, I don't give a fuck. I know what I played, and it reeked of dog shit.
pso:bb
you know you want it
>>321082339
I personally don't have much experience on it either. I just heard a lot about it from people who do. And saw videos like https://youtu.be/2NKZ0AN5IeU
Ignoring the obviously wrong 123memers, FFXIV is good as long as you are playing it for the first time.
Once you reach the end of Heavensward, you are going to find mind-numbingly repetitive. I came back after 9 months, stayed for a month again, and just couldn't do it. I can't heck all the repetition, especially since there's a huge "why?" when all the gear will be obsolete so soon.
>>321082458
post your lodestone character
you don't play or care for the game anymore obviously so it shouldn't be a problem
Elder scrolls online is pretty good
>>321081883
>another SWG nostalgia fanboy trying to convince people the game was good using examples of activities also achieved in a normal chatroom
whoop dee fucking doo
>>321071731
Stop with that awful meme. SKyforge is fucking awful with ridiculously poor developer decisions.
>>321082458
You're full of shit and spouting generic memes.
What class did you play then? Also if you did any end game at all you would know that with gear your cooldowns drop to nothing from equipment bonuses.
>>321082520
I want PSOBB but the gameplay of bait attack>walk back two steps>combo gets stale after all these years.
I prefer PSOs set up and progression but PSO2 has more fun action
>>321082575
>>321082808
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/7871764/
Enjoy. Feel free to talk shit about my gear or something else you can somehow pick at here if it makes you feel better.
>>321082554
The NA CBT had an event like that video. It was a massive clusterfuck and laggy as fuck all with all the people and effects. But it was still very possible to die from the boss, in fact I died a couple of times from the world boss in that event.
>>321080902
>The only good thing about the game is the sandbox elements.
>The only good thing about an MMO was the thing that made MMOs good in the first place
HUH WOW THAT'S WEIRD
>The community and RP experience is great, but don't kid anyone into thinking that the gameplay has stood the test of time.
That describes literally every decent MMO ever. Literally, not a single MMO has ever had great gameplay. The whole appeal of MMOs was the fact that it let NEETs and other anti-social sadboys escape into a world where they were adventurers and other interesting people with friends instead of boring losers. SWG got bonus points because it let said sadboys escape into a world they've most likely been wanting to escape to since they were children, myself included.
This is also a large part of why MMOs now are so fucking worthless. They've gone from being immersive escapist wonderlands to themeparks designed to give normalfags a way to feel like they've accomplished something with as little resistance as possible.
Tree of Savior
>>321082850
why did you pay $12 for a mount before you quit
>>321082870
Yeah, well, it's not like it's not possible to die there. But just look at this shit. You barely have to do anything.
>>321083019
This
>>321082770
>another SWG nostalgia fanboy trying to convince people the game was good using examples of things that made MMOs great in the first place
there you go bud, fixed your retarded opinion for you.
>>321082823
No one is going to play your shitty korean hypergrind maplestory knock off anon give up
>>321083117
That white mech thing? Some guy in my FC gave it to me as a holiday gift
>>321082850
>nigga has a cash shop mount and the 3 month mount
lol not your character, some rando you lodestoned for, keep talking out your ass moron
>>321082823
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA Oh boy that's the best joke i've heard all day
>>321083279
>cash shop mount
See >>321083253
Also, how would having the three month mount means its not me? I told you I've been subbed and unsubbed to the game for awhile now until I got 50.
>>321082458
>>321082850
>"I did do the end-game"
>didn't even clear coil, have one level 60, or even beat the extreme primals
>>321083253
I doubt its your account as it's still active and they clearly bought the expansion pack.
Also if it is all you've done is level lancer to 51, and tried a few other classes. You haven't touched any of the other content.
>>321082808
>>321082575
not him but, FFXIV is good in a way but kinda terrible well idk its just im missing the "fun times" like doing coil, tempest keep, etc all night chatting, laughin and pretty much have something to look forward. idk senpai ffxiv excites me for like 2 months top, after like clearing final coils there is nothing more at all. they just add a new rdf in the patch its just well idk getting older means nothing excites me anymore i guess
>>321083573
End game was referring to pre-heavensward, so no 60.
I also fail to see how coil or EX Primals would change my rotation, or the base mechanics of the game in any way that would make it radically different. The only thing that changes is more movement and telegraphs.
>>321083637
It's active because everyone is given free time until the end of the year.
What other content are you speaking of? Is it content that's radically different? No? Well, then I don't much care for more of the same.
>>321071298
Dude, MonHun, LMAO
>>321071298
Not really.
Only Themepark MMOs are thriving, if you hate those then you won't find anything better. Sandbox MMOs went extinct years ago and won't be revived in some time because they only appeal to a niche NEET crowd.
>>321084196
It's shit.
>>321084383
>It's shit
Another mad 240p babby
>>321082841
>PSO2
>fun action
The game is literally just a waifu dress up game where you do the same hand full of quests over and over again, until a relevent EQ pops.
The turn your brain off, particles and numbers everywhere combat doesn't help either.
>>321084196
Is it in OBT yet?
>>321076947
A shittergoon no doubt in my mind. Drg has a decent amount of things off the gcd and they have pretty fairly short CDs, not to mention moving for positionals. You didn't care to play the game and now you're bitter you were garbage at it. It's far from perfect, but the game has its strong points.
>>321084591
>The game is literally just a waifu dress up game where you do the same hand full of quests over and over again, until a relevent EQ pops.
So.. Its a japanese Warframe?
>>321071298
Mabinogi and H&H are must-plays even though they're no longer playable as MMOs. Wakfu is still worth playing even though it's being ruined more and more every day. Otherwise, private servers seem to be all that's left. Maybe eloa, someone mentioned that recently.
>>321084629
yes
>>321084591
Well that was just like, my opinion dude.
Sorry I offended you
>>321084657
drg is a poorman ninja/monk in a progression final coils raid senpai.
inb4/after any online game is an MMO
>>321074210
Warframe is fun in theory and most execution from what I've experienced, but the fucking time walls for building gear are retarded. It made me drop it immediately when I saw how long it would take to make a shitty pistol.
I wish they would officially bring over PSO2 and DDO, preferably the PS4 versions as well so I can grind from my couch, but just in general would be really fucking nice, Japs.
>>321084657
Sure, whatever. Keep telling yourself I never played the game. I'm just a shitposting figure of your imagination.
The game doesn't have any strong points that other games haven't already covered. It is hugely instanced, very slow, and repetitive. Why /v/ hails it as the best MMO ever made, I will simply never find out. I'd like to attribute it to lots of SE shilling, but I'm not even sure if that's truly the case.
It'll just end as an unexplained phenomenon for me. It seems /v/ can and will hate every game...except FFXIV.
>>321084937
Nah, DRG is neceessary now for prog because litany is too good. DRG/NIN is the new hotness if your raid group is all shitters. MNK is for farm and speed clears.
>>321082321
Would it be hard to get into now? Like how done is the translation of PSO2? Would I be able to play it without getting stuck somewhere?
>>321079438
>but it's the only mmo still worth shit
FTFY
>general MMO thread
>xivfags circlejerking each other off and insulting every other game in existence
every time
>>321081030
Not an MMO. Also shit.
I really want to get into FFXIV but my computer runs it like shit, hopefully i'll have enough money on this months pay, if not next month to upgrade my computer.
>>321071298
If you don't mind it not being massively multiplayer, and just really massive, Xenoblade X has a lot of similarities to PSO
If you can speak jap and have a jap wii u go with that, but the english version's okay too. In the end it's the world you're playing for.
>>321076947
i'm playing Swtor currently, it's pretty fun but god damn the engine is garbage and runs like shit
Tree of Savior
Blade and Soul
these two games require a very specific taste to enjoy.
>>321071472
As someone who has been following this game for 4 years it's not worth it. They've absolutely ruined it when it was supposed to be a buy 2 play but turned into a p2w b2p hybrid. what a huge disappointment for me it was the perfect mmo.
>>321085096
He didn't say you didn't played the game, he deduced you were shit and are bitter about it.
>>321085292
not at all. Generally everything except for new events, and i believe item names, have all been translated.
Maybe not quest flavour text either but it still tells you what you need to get in english, and some on screen speech but it's not a hinderance. Very playable as long as you're willing to fill in some of the gaps that might be in japanese.
>>321085762
>p2w b2p hybrid
explain
>>321076947
have they removed that fucking work point shit in Archeage where you had to wait to actually fucking play the game?
>>321085728
neither of those games are out yet though
>>321085728
>Tree of Dead
>Pay and Win
>>321086118
>Tree of Savior
>Dead
>not one of the most enjoyable betas to date
>>321086310
sure but that will cost you 20TP plus tip senpai
>>321085839
Well the game was assumed to be a free 2 play mmo which I believe it is in korea but when it was announced for the West they changed it into being a b2p game which would be perfectly fine but the fact of the matter is it still contains many of it's free-to-play features that were assumed to be removed on release for the west. The other issue is they turned it into a much more formulaic styled mmo and got rid of nearly everything I was excited for.
Forgive me for posting a link to reddit but this explains it much better than I can. https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/32bzjj/black_desert_online_went_in_very_wrong_direction/
>>321084591
PSO2 is a fucking crime
Its okay until endgame and then its probably the biggest turd ever. What gets me the most is how non of the weapons are unique outside of the skin. The most rare sword and the first sword you start off with are the same barring stats. No unlocking,hitting multiple or less targets,No reduced combo but fuck huge damage no energy waves no nothing.
Its all on the PAs and they just make most of them flashy and useless.
I'm still mad but the dressup A1 tho
I've been enjoying FFXIV a lot, it's probably the only MMO I've played other than WoW that doesn't have a garbage game engine that doesn't run and feel like shit.
>>321086597
You do know that they're changing the AH and trading system in the NA version to avoid the whole selling cash shop gear for advantage, right?
>>321076286
>>321075667
>He thinks skill/talent trees really matter when everyone is just going to use the "optimal" build anyways
That aside, XIV is shit because half the released content is redundant.
>>321075968
>More gimmicky bullshit keeps coming out like Blade & Soul that relies solely on their gimmick to be good rather than just making the entire game good.
Sounds like someone was too shit at the game.
>>321086118
>Pay and Win
Oh yeah, that 300 bucks I dropped totally makes me a god in the arena.
>>321086658
This.
I played until end-game expecting some kind of co-op play.
The only thing that was worth doing at end-game besides advance missions was watching the PSO2 twitter for special time-based missions.
It felt like watching paint dry. I don't know why anyone stuck with it as long as they did.
>>321086785
More like Buyers and Remorse am i right?
>>321085657
After watching the new movie I got into the staw wars swing and I'm currently redownloading swtor while playing KOTOR II and I hope the game got better than when I was in the beta
>>321086772
No I didn't know that and I'm more just leaning on the side ready for dissapointment so I can be ready for the worst. I played the Russian beta and played enough to get a feel of the game and I'm not at all a fan of the quest (at the beginning). I'm not going to tell people to be disappointing but seeing as half the classes disappeared I'm afraid of what other things might have happened as well.
>>321078843
Is this FFXIV?
>>321086889
Can't have buyer's remorse when I got my Master Pack for free now, can I?
>Not being lucky
>>321087228
GW2 aka the biggest fucking disappointment in nearly all of gaming history.
I LIKE THE 2.5 SECOND GLOBAL COOLDOWN
IT GIVES ME THE FEEL OF ATB FROM OTHER FF GAMES
THERE I SAID IT
>>321083850
>What other content are you speaking of? Is it content that's radically different?
Yes of course it's different, because at the required level you actually have to know your shit in order to get clears, you're not gonna be standing around in the with meteors dropping on your head or working through heavensfall and and elemental dances not to mention design checks. The only remotely hard content pre-nerds were steps of faith and and maybe that one trial where you fight that dude who kidnapped that one chick.
I'm waiting on Lost Ark Online. Shame they've not shown all the 32 classes yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAmn4x2r-O8
>>321087125
>seeing as half the classes disappeared I'm afraid of what other things might have happened as well.
What are you talking about? Is this your first cross region MMO or something? It's always been like that, KR has latest patches with newer classes and other regions catch up to the latest patch. It's been this way since forever.
>>321086856
The problem is that all the new content now is scheduled only. Meaning that you can only do the new content when SEGA tells you that you can which is also at horrid times for most English players.
There's new stuff coming that isn't but it's not enough to keep you busy. All endgame is right now is grinding for stones (or tokens / emblems as they are in other games) and you need tons of them.They're also only from these scheduled only quests too.
>>321087375
Shit looks good, better than path of exile and Diablo 3.
>>321087476
Welp.
Glad I quit.
Maybe this was Sega's plan to cull the Americans from their servers.
>>321087228
no, this is ffxiv
>>321087554
I like how the boss fights are more than tank and spank. I like how if you prop up your shield and an ally stands behind it, it'll block the breath attack for them too. I like the crafting talent tree. I like the exploration. I like the classes (though I hope for a Samurai equivalent, since I miss it from FF11).
Biggest fear?
Pay 2 Win garbage like Devillian is.
XIV was honestly the most boring MMO I've ever played and the PvP was completely fucking worthless casual shit, not to mention the raids were piss easy even at the time of release. I had more fun in the f2p version of fucking Rift.
>>321087392
Yes actually it's exactly that. I didn't realize that Korea has had them patched in but last time I tried looking up the other classes on their website it would lead to a 404 when attempting to look at the ones not currently in the game and when I was looking into the game I couldn't find anything about them being implemented in the game, but that's great news. I'll wait until I get a good chance to play it but I can't see it as being the "best mmo in years" that I thought it was when I first started reading about it. It's just hitting me now that it's an mmo and it's not the magical game I wanted it to be.
>>321086856
I played it for about 4k hours on multiple accounts
Friends make i anything more fun. I played since CBT. The games at the start was pretty good outside of the bots.
>>321085341
FF14 is shit and I'm still mad that I wasted money on the expansion thinking it was going to be better I posted a lodestone of one of my characters for the nay sayers
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/12009178/
desu I don't think there is a MMO or any online game out now that is worth trying
Someone please convince me otherwise
>>321087804
PVP in every mmo is worthless unbalanced casual shit, it's not just exclusive to XIV.
Anyone playing gw2 still?
How is it now?
Looking for some MMO for me and my gf to play with EU servers. She wants to play more but just doesn't have the ability to handle anything more complex yet.
>>321087941
At least in some MMOs it can at least be fun. Its slow paced horse shit in 14
>>321087920
>Lan and Yokos
I feel as if I'm 80% sure I've played with both of you beforeMarble
>>321088039
>MMO pvp
>fun
lol no
it all boils down to who has the better gear and who plays the FOTM class, it's worse than fucking MOBAs
>>321087629
>White Mage Outfit
I don't care how bad people are saying this is that's an instabuy for me. I never minded the generic formula anyhow.too bad I gave away my PS4. I don't have s strong PC Either.
>>321087804
>not to mention the raids were piss easy even at the time of release
That's because the 24 man shit is designed with retards in mind.
Meanwhile, endgame is designed for people with consistent schedules that are able to get a consistent group and dungeons are just token grind filler.
>>321087941
BnS says hi.
>>321088120
yokos never made it past CBT but Lan was my main until muh dik decided to make a character
If you ever played with someone named samantha/alexa then maybe it was me but I have a SHITTON of alts. The game was shit so I just kept making cute and funny alts
posting cute cast
>>321084196
I'd be shamelessly all over it if it weren't for the chink
Couldn't even get through the damn tutorial, and the fuckdamn youtube vids skip the exact parts I got stuck on
Are we 100% sure its never coming to the west?
>>321086048
BnS has been out for a few years already.
>>321071298
Archage is good. If you can handle the pay to win and the few whales rolling everyone.
>>321089002
https://youtu.be/wG06WAxoR9k
>>321075342
>>321076693
>Pay2doanythingatall is the best right now
Good joke
>>321089114
Sounds just like real life.
>>321088721
Definitely played with Lan in CBT, and with Alexa. Alexa was on my friends list.
Do you still play? How is it now? DDR or EDF still around?
>>321089258
Which is the exact reason why people wanted to play vidya and mmos in the first place.
>>321089002
>Archeage is good
>>321075067
2.5 second global cooldown is the worst thing you can complain about FFXIV, it's a FINAL FANTASY game. A series well known for it's turn based slow combat.
If you can look past the horrid community, cringe worthy art/costume design and overblown fan service, Tera is actually a solid MMO.
>>321089368
>>321088721
You guys still playing?
Might redownload, ship2?
>>321087375
Looks too good desu senpai, pretty sure it will be awful.
>>321089825
My main was on Ship 4.
>>321089002
>Archage is good.
>>321089065
Wonder what it's like to be such a stupid fucking person. Wildstar also has a bunch of people who think the same way so hey at least you're in good company I guess.
>>321089368
>DDR or EDF
ah yep then you played with me you've been around for a while if you recognized both lol
I left ship 4 and ship 2 DDR went to shit fast good people though
>>321089065
I fucking love this video
>>321089704
If I made a video game based around my feces, and it was a really terrible video game, do I have a right to tell the critics to fuck off because since the game's theme is feces, it's okay to be a shitty game?
>>321090026
That's a reallyshittyanalogy if you ask me.
Anyways, the game has issues but 2.5 second global cooldown isn't one of them. I can understand that some people don't like it, but what were you expecting from a Final Fantasy game? Devil May Cry combat speed?
>>321090014
I think I joined FUN police at first, but yeah, a lot of my time was spent with DDR when FUN Police died.
I never did make a character on Ship 2. I wonder if I should have.
>This is the best quality image if my character in FUN police.
>>321085292
Game is way too bloated now, it'll take you all day to download or longer if your net is shit.
>>321086953
I thought about playing SWTOR again too. Would you want to play together?
Honestly, is there any online game that is not pay to win or full cheaters these days? Someone said world of tanks did a really good job curbing hacks. But other than that it's a just a pay to win cheat fiesta with online pc gaming.
>DAoC is dead
>SWG is dead
>RO is dead
>private Server WoW is shit as you'll have to go through all the grind again till maxlevel and it will never be like retail due to bugs, player constraints etc.
>ToS turned out shit
>Tera is okay, but the PvE isn't interesting
>FFIV has invisible walls everywhere and isn't that great mechanically
>EVE was probably glorious while everybody was starting out, but is completely stale and tedious for new players now
>original Guild Wars actually sill alive, but not my kind of games for continuous play even with friends
I just don't know anymore.
Guess I'll just wait for WoD and Eternal Crusade.
>>321090679
not the guy you're currently writing to, but I'd be down to join a TOR group.
>>321090428
I never was around for fun police. I started on ship 10 and moved to 2 and made a new account on 4.
2 had a lot of good going for it being a English community but the randoms were bad as fuck and it was suffering playing without muh super seekrit MPAs
incoming T H I C K
>>321091065
Alright, do you have Skype or something else?
>>321084196
>Tencent
Play Frontier or fuck off.
>>321084591
soloing EQ bosses is fun as fuck though.
Loser is one of the best bosses in MMO out there.
>>321091583
>loser
>MMO boss
nigga
Soloing EQ bosses were the shit though
>>321090957
Wakfu and dofus.
>>321071298
the last mmos i enjoyed were ultima online and knight online before the age of shadows expansion for uo, and the expansion after knight empire for knight online. i liked these mmos a lot because they didn't have quest npcs and there was more player interaction. unfortunately, most mmos now force you to grind through boring quests and then buy some stuff from the cash shop so you can go pvp.
i started playing smite instead, and it feels like playing those old mmos more than playing any current mmo.
i wish the world of darkness mmo didn't turn out to be trash and get cancelled. it was the first game i was excited for in a long time.
>>321091350
sure do. give me a shout at saturnindrag
I would enjoy FFXIV a lot more if they put more effort into the PVP. Seal Rock is super fun but RNG nodes, obvious job imbalance (Summoners fucking everywhere), and no option to queue for a 24 man Seal Rock instead of 72 man kills it.
wow is a pos and a cancer now, i wouldnt play that shit even even the kikes at blizz gave it out for free
>>321089368
>Do you still play? How is it now? DDR or EDF still around?
Yeah but all the Ship4 teams merged into a newer one named Outer Haven though a lot of EDF stayed. EDF is still somewhat alive and a few of the original members still play. I'm still in EDF but I'm not going to put my name here.
Episode 4 is coming out in January with a new class and most likely a bunch of QoL changes and I do think that it's worth coming back just to see how different the game is compared to when you left. There's a lot of good changes (and some bad but it's mostly endgame) but the game is completely different compared to Ep1/early Ep2.
For anyone else, I do recommend at least trying the game if you can handle the 30+GB download. The combat is simple but fun, the music is great and there's a lot of content for a new player to do (though some is gated on quests that only appear randomly). There's a lot of classes and weapon types to choose from and almost all of them are decent enough to do well in groups. There are a few classes that are a lot higher than others but it's mostly nothing to worry about unless you get invested into endgame which I don't recommend.
http://arks-layer.com/
Has all the information you need to sign up and the only Japanese you have to deal with during that is the Captcha which you can use this site for http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/hiragana.htm
If you want English people to play with, Ship2 is where you go but if you know how to mingle with the Japanese, go anywhere else but Ship2.
As someone who's played pretty much every MMO that exists at one point or another, I can tell you that the only two upcoming MMOs worth anyone's time are Black Desert and Blade and Soul.
Black Desert is a big question mark, and it all the depends on the western publisher not being a jew piece of shit and casualizing the game. If they don't, the game has a ton of potential. Like Archeage but with better combat and less cash shop jewery.
Blade and Soul though, for me, is probably what's going to keep me busy from January onwards. It has the best combat I've seen in any MMO by far, looks polished, a few interesting mechanics, even if the rest of the game is a little dull.
Honestly, if you haven't tried it, wait 'till January and try it. It's the first MMO I've found that somehow made fighting normal mobs fun. [/spoiler]The rampant fanservice is also nice.
>>321092054
(cont)
Stay the fuck away from PSO2 /vg/, it is full of people who want to shitpost anonymously about other people. If you want gameplay discussion, you will almost never find it there and you will be better off finding a team and speaking to them instead.
>>321092287
>As someone who's played pretty much every MMO that exists at one point or another,
Oh, this is gonna be good.
> I can tell you that the only two upcoming MMOs worth anyone's time are Black Desert and Blade and Soul.
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>>321092523
lol
