Are FFXI players the biggest nostalgiafags ever?
>>321065231
What had you so butthurt, op?
>>321065396
He's mad he switched to FFXIV
>Macros the game
I never understood the appeal
>>321069104
Fun/to be annoying with commands/be optimal
>>321065231
>he fell for the FFXIV is good meme
FFXI ain't the best but it's dead and was fun for it's time and even now it stands to be a mmo with a pretty good story with very nice cut scenes
FFXI fans are very aggressive
but i'm enjoying FFXI in the current year
we will be the biggest nostalgiafags in another 10 years, because we'll have one of the best MMORPGs to look back onto, unlike the people playing ARR.
>>321069104
I must be the only guy in world who still manually picks spells and weapon skills through the menu. Pic related, really speeds up the gameplay.
>>321070305
The guys in the /ffg/ linkshell are very chill. No memes even.
>>321070305
I would be aggressive too if I delevel when I die and it takes forever to get anything done.
>>321065231
That would be Nintendofags
I know I am. The memories from playing that etched into my mind forever. No other game offers the experience it offered and none ever will again. I know this because I looked.
>>321065231
Yes, but goddamn if I don't miss that game. If it wasn't for PlayOnline I would be back on it right now.
>>321070525
How active is it?
>>321065231
I guess. They definitely are wearing some extra rose tinted glasses. That game had a lot of bad things. I'm guessing most of them played after ToAU /WoTG, but before Abysea.
Cause when it was just RotZ and CoP that game was not a fun trip.
>>321071515
Nowadays you don't even notice it since killing one IT mob with trusts out takes 10 seconds and nets 2.5k+ exp. Was helping a guy kill this malboro NM with an insta-death move the other dat and we must have died 7-10 times before downing it and I didn't even notice the exp loss. It's quite a different game in 2015, but still managed to keep a lot of its charm.
>>321073523
>Cause when it was just RotZ and CoP that game was not a fun trip.
... said the filtered casual. That was the best time to be playing. It catering to the likes of you that brought XI to its eventual end.
>>321073318
Around 800ish online most of the time. Up above 1500+ at peak hours. Asura is the server to play on. Also, playonline isn't that bad at all anymore since you can just download all the patches from mega in 1/100th of the time it would take to update normally.
>>321073523
So glad the abyssea days are gone. Almost killed it for me. Vanilla was great though, man.
is there a /v/ or a /vg/ steam group or linkshell?
>>321074205
No it was not. That was when bat trains shut down GC for hours til a GM showed up. And there were only like 7 camps to a zone so everyone fought over spots.
>>321075095
Sorry you were on such a shitty server then. If a camp was ever filled on my server, we would just go to some really weird places to camp. Surviving the trek was all part of the adventure. Even places no one ever went to camp like palborough or giddeus even.
Now that I'm thinking of it, I doubt it was ever bad on your server either. I think you probably overheard something once and are now just repeating it to make it seem like you were there. No one gave up looking for a camp because one spot was taken. That doesn't even make sense.
>>321075914
That's why the spot by the outpost in Lower Jungle and Gustav tunnel near the Valk dunes entrance were used so much? It was a god damn pain and a half to get ANYONE to go there. And Gustav is an easy walk at the level I'm talking about.
And giddeus. You serious? How, if it wasn't the 7 bots and two players camping the monster signa guy, it was the blm gathering up all the yags to farm the shit out of beads.
>>321065231
I'm finally done with FFXIV until next mayor patch. Is XI worth it for the story? How is the gameplay? Do people still play it regularly?
>>321073523
I played around the time ToAU came out and had plenty of fun.
Sounds like you were just bad/too anti-social to get people together to do shit.
It had problems, mostly in the job balancing department, but faggots like you should just go and fuck off. Because of morons like you we get those casualized pieces of shit games as we do nowadays.
>>321076381
It was damn near impossible to convince people to go anywhere outside their comfort zone. Shakhrami and Korroloka had some of the easiest and fastest xp killing worms, but nobody ever wants to go anywhere but Valkurm at those levels.
>>321076381
I had a feeling you were one of the filtered and I was right. Things being "a god damn pain" was what gave the game all its charm to begin with. In the beginning, the people who stayed formed an amazing and huge community of people competent enough to overcome all obstacles as a team. Things started to casualize and then your type starting coming back and everything started to fall apart. You guys failed to the most basic of tasks and then the game had to be simplified for you, and then the cycle just continued this way until today where the entire game can be soloed. It started with the JP players not wanting to party with the Westerners anymore due to gross incompetence, then came the scrubs and the market collapse because everything needed to be made easier to farm, socializing and community lost necessity and the retarded reigned supreme. Thanks for that, I guess.
>>321076826
>around the time ToAU
That's why. ToAU introduced glorious lolabri / piercing master race. And I didn't even touch the job balance in my first post because we ALL know that shit was bad.
>>321077038
The maze was fun. Korro to, at least until it got too popular, Astral burns were the final nail in that coffin.
>>321077653
I should be more clear: I stopped playing about 3 months after ToAU came out and didn't do a single shit in their except meriting at imp camps.
All the fun I had came from RotZ, CoP and vanilla.
>>321077563
Except the JP didn't want to party with us from damn near the start. In part because they really couldn't socialize with us. And I say that as someone who got JP parties on the regular.
And the obstacle thing was cool except that after the obstacle was overcome, no one helped those after. I had a gear set for 2-3 stored in storage because no one ever helped others for that. That was bad.
>>321065231
So did you server have a sky pact?
most kids on /v/ haven't even had the opportunity to play the same video game consecutively for 14 years
of course people are going to be nostalgic about it
>>321078197
Were you not in a linkshell or something? It's weird for a LS to exercise any lack of consideration for their newbies. Especially if they had any value on their own reputational standing.
Again, the JP thing must have been characteristic of whatever server you happened to be on. On Kujata, I remember there were even a couple girls who loved surrounding themselves with western male noobies and would just give us free mithkabobs and other garbage and would lead us around bastok having us trade items to NPCs for whatever the quest rewards were. It was a good time.
>>321074818
Just post in the /ffg/ thread. Ignore all the mobile game shit, it's all a lot of them seem to care about these days. The shell guys check the thread, though.
>>321076558
Yeah, Asura is lively. Playing for the story is exactly what I'm doing now and it's great. You can play it like a single player FF game now. Also, leveling solo is very easy. I have BST, SCH, and THF at 99 with a few subjobs at 49 and I'm still in my free month.
Stop being mean to each other you two. I don't want this to turn into a XIV-style thread.
It's the greatest MMO ever made.
>>321077563
Basically this
what was the last video commentary from the developers about?
>>321079398
I was in a LS on one server. Not on the other. It's funny that the one where I did not had a much more helpful player base. My LS was cool and helpful though.
This doesn't change the fact that it was rare the person to help others with keys, LB1, and many other things. Oh and FUCK LB1 drop rate. I got mine fast but oh god my poor bro and that paper.
>>321080270
I think is this one and everquest but I would also add ultima online (those two influenced xi)
>>321070305
That's always what the detractors say...
I mostly just see FFXI fans chilling in a room together talking about the good old dayswhen they got to play the best game ever made thoroughly and you didn't.
no. star wars galaxies guys are.
i know because i am one
>>321065231
FFXI nostalgia is a rich, burning nostalgia.
It's Christmas-Day-when-you-were-nine-years-old nostalgia coupled with falling-in-love-for-the-first-time nostalgia. FFXI nostalgia has a games-were-better-when-I-was-younger nougat core, with a glaze of cleared-CoP-6-4-for-the-first-time-at-two-in-the-morning-on-a-school-night.
Every time these threads crop up, I get a sinking feeling in my gut that can only be quelled by listening to the FFXI soundtrack. I read and I listen. I reminisce and I daydream.
Many say that FFXI is dead, but it isn't; FFXI is more like a dear childhood friend who moved very far away. You still keep in contact - hell, you could even visit if you wanted to - but your lives went on such divergent paths that the energy to maintain the relationship either isn't there anymore or has to be expended elsewhere. It's like after high school where a bunch of people you once saw every day suddenly fell off the face of the earth.
Even if you are being a dick, OP, thank you for making this thread. I am too busy these days to come to /v/ on the regular, so it is nice to start my holidays with some hot cocoa, warm nostalgia and the bustle of the capitol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Rzo_Rju_I
>>321083013
>cleared-CoP-6-4-for-the-first-time-at-two-in-the-morning-on-a-school-night
holy fuck
I know this exact feel
it's so profound
>>321082570
also there's a ton of crazy stuff that happened in the game, so many phases of the game, so many lessons that could be learned but won't. It's crazy. My friend lost a summer to grinding a character to jedi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKKJSUWWCag
>>321073318
not very except everyone is packed onto Asura so at least one server is active
back during the end of ToAU i would /sea all only about 900-1200 on Cerberus and now I see more than that on Asura
>>321083013
ur alovelyperson
>>321065231
I only just have started playing this game on a private server, so no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ak0HTDQFZo
Will this zone ever be matched? Can it ever be matched?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz5z_r73qQ4&list=PLbu6MhpDEu1bElCn0Yuy-hFHR9houAUeg&index=1
Here the final story line in 4k the plot go a bit insane but it a end you expect for FF game.
>We are god
>>321083013
right in the feels.
I can't think of an MMO that gave me the memories that ffxi did. No MMOs can provide the same sense of exploration/journey/danger that ffxi did. I tried private servers but its just not the same. The entire private server community is that worst kind of ffxi player that only interacts through passive aggressively showcasing their game knowledge.
Gonna be posting some feels, positive and negative.
>that feel when you encounter a Tremor Ram near your journey to Valkurm Dunes, and you hear it stomping around as you try to distance yourself so you don't die a swift death
>>321081179
>ancient papyrus
This was what caused my first quit. It was bad enough just getting to the good farming spot, but then the drop rate itself was just too much to bear. When I was high enough to be of any assistance, I would even do the masochistic thing of helping anyone I saw asking for help. That was easily the worst thing about NA vanilla.
>>321083013
Even though I don't have nostalgia for this expansion starting the game again and walking into Eastern Adoulin for the first time to this music gave me chills.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Cz34jcfw1A
>>321065231
It's not nostalgia if the game really was better in the past.
>that feel when you finally get your chocobo after scrapping together funds from selling bits and pieces, maybe receiving some funds from your Jeuno tour guide friend. Your days of trekking it on foot everywhere were helped by your bird companion.
>>321086378
>not just farming the grass yourself
It was the waiting that was the pain.
>>321085525
>tfw
>>321079874
Thanks anon, I'll sub in a few. I just won't do another grind relic quest after finishing my Zeta a couple of months ago. Still love the game though
Who could forget?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lpTaFgpGRGI
>>321086938
What is with your text? Is there a new option for this? Also the buff icons? I haven't played in a long itme
>>321086378
>After 30 real life days of feeding and training your bird, you finally get to ride it
>It's slower than a rented bird but at least it's also a lot more expensive than just renting one too
>The only benefit these things offered was being able to summon them where you stood and also look sweet if you happened to get a black one
>still, people poured all of that gil and time into raising one
Are there any mods for this game? Textures look like ass
>>321085525
>Friend and I attempt to go to Dunes for the first time. Hear the stomps in the distance. My friend gets killed in 1 shot and I soon follow
>1 year later
>I'm riding my chocobo through the same spot on my lvl 75 Monk trying to complete a sidequest and notice a new player running for his life from it.
>Dismount and destroy it
>Escort them over to Dunes and give them a few tips that I wish I was given before the first time
I ran into the player again a few years later after I came back from a long break and he helped me catch up on some of the old content I missed out on since he still remembered how I helped him back then.
>>321087304
This is still funny. Been over 5 years since I've seen this.
>>321077563
You just explained exactly why FFXI was terrible to play.
>>321088230
And you are the kind of people we were happy never played with us. You not existing in the game world is part of what made it great.
>>321087263
Nice, maybe we'll cross paths. I recommend the /ffg/ LS, FearTheVoid. Quite a few new players and casual veterans in it, extremely helpful guys all around. But whatever you decide hope you have fun.
Anyone want a XIV code?
>that feel when you get your first glorious piece of Artifact Armor and it has some bullshit on it like CHR for no reason
The early days of their armor stats were funky.
>>321087910
Feel like puffing a cigarette and I don't smoke. Shit just ain't like this anymore. My thing was as a RDM I would buff the hell out of noobs when I passed them sometimes. Protect IV, Shell IV, Cures, a quick Haste that wore off in like 5 seconds.
>>321088816
hahaha fk no
I don't kn ow, but I do feel the pangs of nostalgia stirring at my heart.
Problem is, generally, the people that want to call the nostalgia card want to use as a unfit counter-argument to personal preferences - for all the wrong reasons.
>>321088965
CHR was important for RDMs if I remember correctly. It was the governing stat that decided the strength of your buffs and the accuracy of your debuffs.
>>321087850
no
the game still looks better than ffxiv, especially the equipment lol
>>321087384
They're widower4 plugins, which are quite a bit updated since whenever that pic was taken. I only use a couple, like seeing party members' tp and such. I also used the dressup one to change my character model (player side only) because I fucking hated the one I chose. SE hasn't cared about people using it for years and there's some cool stuff to play around with.
You remember gear macros? Well now you can just write a script (or use a template .xml) and have the gearswap plugin change your gear automatically for whatever situation you define. I'm not super into endgame or anything but a simple one I have is if I'm not engaged to an enemy it automatically equips my +12% movement speed boots so I don't ever have to do it with a macro again.
>>321089653
That's kinda sad to me... but then Iw as always a no-windower purist.
To each their own I guess.
>>321087850
Yeah, I've seen a few guides around for better looking textures and 60fps. Mostly all through widower.
>that feel when you saw a Ninja during the mass inflation decked out with all his spells, including Utsusemi which was way out of your price range, Ochiudo's Kote, and he used Sole Sushi +1 as food
Fuck 11 and I don't care about 14
Where the fuck is the tactics mmo
I miss this game so much. And the community.
People will probably find it kinda sad, but it was the best part of my life for the 7 or so year I played (played from day one international release, but had to stop when I reached a certain point in my studies - it was either the game or my diploma... but as soon as I was done with that and got the job secure, you can bet I was back)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urX0y8qbl_8
I personally can't bear to see what they've done to it.
>>321089801
Hey man, I still use the menu for spells instead of macros like a child. But fuck changing my shoes all the time, that shit gets old.
>>321089921
>he'd use Utsusemi: Ni on mob pulls he really did need to just to show off
>pulling with expensive throwing ammo
Fuck those rich kids.
>>321065231
Yes, anyone pining for 75-cap have the rosiest of Rose-Colored Glasses
>>321090850
I see FF14 elves transferred the legs to the neck
>The rain in La Theine falls mainly on the plains.
>>321091426
That or, you k now, we loved the game as it was before, and don't as it is know.
Nostalgia doesn't have to be unfounded.
>>321065231
offline rerelease when
Last time I tried it there were too many damn menus and the movement was stiff as hell. On the other hand I was like 17 so who knows.
>>321091571
Nah. Elvaan necks in XI were truly ridiculous. Especially during the run animations where they stuck their heads forward and the necks got even longer.
>>321073523
Fuck off faggot back to WoW.
>>321092215
I was gonna go Elvaan at first due to being fooled by the high poly character creation models. It didn't look too bad. . .until I got to it ingame and promptly deleted that character and went with a boring Hume.
>>321091571
That's just Prishe being best girl. Elvaan are still pretty awkward.
>>321088965
At least the tabard also had +15 enfeeb, making it actually a pretty good piece.
There's AF that's literally just dog shit.
>>321087910
thanks anon
>>321089179
Ugh, no. Magic Accuracy and (primarily) debuff strength come from INT.
Buff strength solely came from MND and enhancing magic.
CHR was absolutely useless if you didn't happen to be a brd, thf (for DE) or tank (for charm resist).
>>321092935
I actually picked Elvaan cause that's just so close to how I looks it's freaky. I have the large shoulders I kept from semi-professional track-running, the long neck (though thankfully not as ridiculously long). Only the face which is more graceful, and the white hair I picked make a real difference.
>>321083013
RIGHT
IN
THE
FEELS
>playing ARR
>read about these ridiculous XI stories
>never had a chance to play subscription MMO's when I was younger
>mfw gradually hoping XIV becomes what XI is nowmfw when is probably won't happen
The whole gear switching to optimize each skill thing was bullshit though. I wish they brought back the elemental wheel for XIV instead of making BLM the laziest and least interesting class in the game.
>>321092935
I hated the generic hume I made, but was way too far in to start over. Embraced full giraffe with windower and just try to forget others still see my shitty character.
>>321094662
Come on, how can you not love that beard?
>>321094251
>The whole gear switching to optimize each skill thing was bullshit though
Why? It was actually pretty awesome.
>>321094808
Right? That's what I switched TO. You don't even want to see the shit female hume I chose drunk and didn't think to change for a month. That bearded elvaan is who I really am on the inside and no cis scum gonna tell me otherwise.
>>321092215
>>321095226
oh god
Some of these limit break quests, man..
>>321095226
>>321094251
XIV: Every role MUST achieve the same thing. That piece of gear you just got? It's useless in the next patch! No one gets left behind!
XI: Everyone has their own role and set of skills that you can mess around with a bit. That gear you just got? Worth the time and effort you put into getting it! You may get left behind or you can work together and find out what this world is really made of.
>>321095539
I... don't remember that guy.
A quick wiki search makes me glad it's probably because he was added after I left.
>>321096109
That *was* true of FFXI, but post Abyssea game is just as plagued with planned gear obsolescence. Sadly.
>>321065231
Yes. I'm pretty much playing for RoE to conclude the story i started 10 years ago.
>>321083359
>Winning Promathia by the skin of your teeth with a chainspell thunder III spam after your party got wiped at 2 in the morning on a school day
My greatest achievement in the game
What server? What year? What linkshell?
>Phoenix
>2002-2007
>Tarutarunation.Dynamisbums
>Hades
>2005-2010
>Cryptic something. CrypticFaith? It was a sky shell. Yeah, CrypticFaith.
>>321084949
I think [OTHER GAME] may have already reached that point
>>321096763
I think main healing the Alexander fight with PUP is still the thing I'm proudest of (and they said I was crazy). That's at 75 level cap of course.
But finishing CoP before there was any guide, with that crazy team and all the scheduling and experimentation needed. Yeah, I'm really proud I was graced to play with those people. That was grand.
>>321089921
And Scorp. Harness +1/O. Hat on EVERY DEX BASED JOB, EVER.
there will never be another game with a journey like ffxi
i played on sylph from the day of the NA release until like 2007-2008
good times ;_;
>the abandoned FFXIV for FFXI
I should have played this year's ago.
I may have even done more homework or learned a second language while waiting for parties to form.
>>321090850
Prishe mai waiifu
>>321079526
>VII remake gets announced
>3 posts about it
>goes back to Record Keeper talk
>Cloud in smash
>Record Keeper becomes the hot topic to talk about again
Never understood the appeal.
>>321096905
Leviathan.
International day one (so, October 2003 was it ?) to a few months after they launched Abyssea. With a two ear break in the middle.
Come back to the game here and there to say hello. No as much as I think I owe those that still play the courtesy. But I try.
Loads of Linkshells, but the silly Fun Excitement Death people have my heart. Wasn't a big successful linkshell, but it was family.
>>321096394
On abyssea days, maybe. Now that we're post-abyssea there's macro sets up the wazoo again. Specially on jobs like BLU.
But I admit the macroness was even more generalized on ALL jobs back then.
>>321095226
<Dhalmel Meat> <Can I have it?>
>>321097314
>pup
>75 cap
>>321097973
>but it was family
Oh gosh, this game was really great at that.
>>321096905
Remora. 2006-2010'ish.
HIKARI IN THE HOUSE, MOTHERFUCKERS!!! If there's any Hikarians around, Kletian the beardy still loves y'all.
>>321083013
Damn, anon... capped.
>>321098047
I fail to see what you're trying to convey here.
>>321098221
Old days at Selbina, waiting for that valkurm dunes party.
That'll die to BOGYS. Or disband after 30 minuted.
>>321097662
Did the same. I'll complete XI's story in the next few months and probably move on to another game, but it feels so good to "beat" the game after all these years and get some closure.
>>321098305
Maybe he's trying to coyly go "lolpup"
>pain and suffering intensifies
Just took this. Not bad for 5pm EST on a Tuesday afternoon.
>>321070794
This is what I did as BLM. The only macros I used were for stun, sleep, and gear swapping.
>>321098840
I remember helping a linkmate get his back then. This and carby mitts.>>321098840
>>321098840
Damn that invisible weapon to hell !
>>321099135
BLM only needed macros for elemental staff swapping desu besides those you mentioned
>tfw was too young and poor to play mmos before WoW
>didn't get to play SWG either
Been resubbed since a little before November in anticipation of finishing RoV, which made me cry like a bitch by the end of it. I was planning on quitting after, but the LS I was in last year is still active and they've all been really fun to hang out with, so now I'm playing all day just to help out and I love every minute of it. It's a weird feeling though because the game has changed so much, but it's still there at the core of it, so you somehow feel nostalgic about the game you're playing while you play it. I dunno it's kind of hard to explain, but it reminds me of WoW back in WOTLK how the vanilla areas were still there, but wholly irrelevant other than leveling. That's kinda what FFXI is like right now, everything is still in the game, but the endgame is so shoved into a couple areas that the whole world is really underutilized compared to the way things used to be.
>>321098840
I felt really shitty because a bunch of good friends helped me get this even before my SMN was 75, took us about 3 times camping it too. I quit shortly after unfortunately and never saw any of them again. Made good on their work though and ended up wearing it.
>>321099143
>carby mitts
We had a guy in the linkshell that never reset tonberry hate in all the years he played the game...
By the 10th year, it made for... memorable carby mitts runs.
>tfw FFXI was designed to run smoothly on dial-up internet
If the game succeeded at one thing it was this
>tfw getting merits by BLM soloing puddings in Mount Zhayolm
>>321100368
Motherfucking this. Gravity, then AM pull, then sleep, then AM again. Then sleep again and maybe rest for MP, then finish the pudding.
>>321099881
I actually played it once on dial up and it wasn't too bad, although you could notice it once you got into a party. It's also amazing to note that all the servers for the game are in Japan, which is pretty crazy to think about.
>>321100368
Also xp soloing on goblin pets.
>>321065231
It was the game for hardcore NEETs. I think the average FFXI player invested at least more than 2000 hours into it.
Sounds like OP missed the glory days of XI and is entirely bitter about playing shit MMOs now. Or just wanted an excuse to make an XI thread, which also means Mithra.
>>321098305
>>321098548
Nope I actually completely forgot that pup was still 75 cap era. It was the one class I did nothing with so it still seemed new in my head.
>>321100773
I herd u lik kittens!
Posted this in /xivg/ but I might get a faster response here:
Looking to switch playing from PS4 to PC. Shall I buy ARR from the Humble Bundle? Do I need to know anything else?
>>321099881
The game wasn't in real time so that must have helped things. Especially in those Besieged events where there were like 400 people in the same zone fighting the bullshit onslaught.
>>321065231
A link to the past fags are worse.
>>321101041
Get out, Miqo'te whore.
>>321101126
Stay in /xivg/, then. Clearly not a XIV thread.
Why are FFXI players so hostile to FFXIV players? God damn.
>>321099881
This is gonna sound pretty third world, but I swear I'm in Pennsylvania. When I use my 20-year-old microwave the shit shielding leaks the radiation and kills my wifi in seconds. Youtube will stop, online games get disconnected, the works.
Fucking FFXI stays connected.
>>321100568
>stick around long enough for other solo blms to show up
>form a party
>massive exp chains
>constantly compare damage output with other blms
>>321100745
2000 hours? You do realize many, if not most of us count in *years* of playtime.
>>321101356
Not all of us are.
>>321101356
I liked XIV. Played from 1.0 to the end of Heavensward and then had literally nothing more to do in the game but the gear grind. No hostility here, but just take a look at /xivg/. It's full of human trash, and I saw a lot of it in game, too.
>>321101807
>You do realize many, if not most of us count in *years* of playtime.
well no wonder you guys are always trying to shove your XI shit in every MMO thread
you guys pretty much sold your life to that game
>>321101692
That was, indeed, the Danse Macabre in the middle of Halvung.
>>321065231
you would be too if you experienced the best MMO's golden age around 2006
>modern MMOs
>I'm going to log in and play solo for hours upon end
>and when I do finally group with other players, it will be through a groupfinder
>and not only that, but the gameplay has nothing to do with cooperation or synergy
yeah, no thanks
>>321070305
Maybe you shouldn't post about XIV in an XI thread then, you faggot.
Former caitsith here. merged with ragnarok a few years ago. now there is only ~500 ppl playing at any time on ragnarok...
Oi, fuck your RDM mate, who /BST/ here?
>>321101807
IDK if that's really a fair assessment of time. Does that include the countless hours of leaving your mule on bazzar mode?
Then again the game has been going for 14 years...
i've considered going back but i forgot my password and i've long since changed / lost most of the info that i'd need to get my info back. so support won't let me change my password. yes, because them getting my money is totally a bad thing for a 5+ year inactive account that i MIGHT be stealing?
>>321101692
>>321100568
>>321100368
Who genie weskit and full +1 staves here?
Why didn't you heed their warning /v/?
Some people, though..
>>321103118
I had to igqira it for a while until I had enough gil.
Genie + sorcerer's petasos + staves.
>>321103138
Hahahahaha. I remember that. Who remembers the play being blacked out because of constant DDoS attacks?
Are there any private servers that recreate clasic FF11 ala Project1999?
>>321103138
I don't know, man, I graduated highschool, college with a 3.8gpa, got a decent job and got married during the time I played. Still played tons of other games, too.
>>321101942
I'm amazed you made it to heavensward. I was in the beta for XIV straight through to ARR's official launch, got legacy etc. I think lvl 50 was the cap at the time and I got 2 classes to 50 within a month or so. The game was vapid and the community on my server (some EU server) was suited to it. Just a sea of these weeb sock puppets who were more interested in dressing their characters and dancing than much of anything else. I honestly felt like it was a better game just before the meteor. The community certainly was too. Dropped it and never looked back.
>>321103138
I studied while camping fafnir with the linkmates. Your turn, anon.
>>321103392
Yeah, but they're all either dead or every single player is at max level in cliques doing endgame stuff.
>>321101356
Because Square Enix cut corners for FFXIV 1.0 and used fucking Crystal Tools, an engine not designed to support an MMO. It failed.
Then Square hires a retard named Yoshi-P who throws out the engine (good) and the design (bad, at least after 1.23). I swear to fucking god, Square can't do anything right anymore. It's always "throw the baby out with the bathwater" because they've forgotten how to make video games.
That, and the fact that every FFXI thread is an invitation for you retards to bring /xivg/ shitposting in here. Keep it out. Stay out.
Why the fuck does FFXI still have a sub fee if the game is pretty much finished already? The game is basically a singleplayer game at this point with the whole Trust system.
>>321101356
bitterness that they are no longer the big focus. Attention issues essentially.
>>321065231
Yes. If you mention anything negative about their game, they will call you a butthurt WoW or XIVfag. FFXI was mainly played by like minded weaboos who would defend the game to their dying breath because they invested so much time into it.
>>321103542
The only reason I stayed that long was because I played with FC friends from 1.0, several of whom were also from XI. I liked the story in Heavensward quite a bit, too, but after a while all I was doing was logging on to fish and play triple triad.
I really miss triple triad.
>>321089179
CHR only affected BRD songs.
>>321096168
He's the guy who trained Maat.
>>321102060
I don't know about sold, but as I said up thread, I do think to many of use, it was some of the best of our lives at the time
>321102635
Never BST myself, but partied with a lot. Gotta love the fluffy armor.
>>321103046
>IDK if that's really a fair assessment of time. Does that include the countless hours of leaving your mule on bazzar mode?
Apart from that one time I fell asleep in Dynamis I always played when online, never muled, and clock more than two years of playtime.
I think it's fair enough assessment.
>>321104113
You want to keep supporting the game, don't you, kupo?I don't really mind. I'll play for a few months and get my money's worth for 10 years of content. Plenty of party stuff still going on, too.
What is the best mage class in the game currently?
Scholar?
So many replies that hit me in the feels... To me, FFXI is the perfect example of the fact that MMOs can be good. It was far from being a perfect game, but it was, all around, an enjoyable experience, and most of all, a memorable one. The "roughness" of many key gameplay elements really added a particular charm to it, and gave to small things like leveling and traveling much more satisfaction to the player than other games did. You also HAD to bind with other players in order to progress your adventures: this "forced socialization" truly made the game feel more like a collective experience. And that's the problem I have with newer games (such as XIV): you just solo shit until eventually you need some random dudes to beat a dungeon, you get in the dungeon finder and you play through it without even "knowing" eachother. Sure, you could blame it on me for not playing with friends, but "friends" were alot easier to make in XI, because you would need people even for something as simple as leveling your lv 15 character. I really hope someone, someday, will be able to craft a spiritual successor to XI, a game where you just log in and enjoy doing stuff, exploring the world without hassle, being captured by an awesome soundtrack and chatting with your fellow buddies you met ingame.
And yes OP, I'm fucking nostalgic
>>321104573
And BST Charms.
>>321104113
Old school MMOs tend to keep their subs, you can count on the mobile port to be freemium though, especially when it's being handled by Nexon. The main game might eventually offer a free option too and it already has plenty of stuff to capitalize on like Trusts, log in campaign items, etc.
>>321105092
Extreme endgame meta kind of blows for melee right now, it's all about magic burst. Top favored jobs have always switched around in waves over the years and they're still going to be expanding a bunch of stuff down the line so I hope this changes.
But right now SCH and BLM are kings. More so SCH, I'd say. SMN/WHM/GEO(huge, everyone wants one but it's boring to play)/COR(everyone wants one AND it's fun)/PLD/RUN/BST are all in demand.
Or do what my LS does and faceroll endgame stuff with whatever setup you want, because fuck the elitist endgame crowd. We clear a lot of stuff and have hilarious wipes on others.
I just started playing this again a week ago, after getting hooked on XIV and Warframe for a few years. when I got back there was still a few people from my LS that still played, so it was cool that I actually had people to talk to and shit.
Trusts are an amazing solution for a game with less people that want to party, I just leveled up in some aht urghan area with Trion and Shantotto and Ayame and had a blast. The thing I don't like about it is that it kinda shits on the whole Adventuring Fellow thing, which I actually enjoyed using and thought was cool. Wish they just turned the AF into a trust so it worked better with the party mechanics.
I still need 6500 more moat carps, but I'm not giving up again on this shit, I'm gonna get the fucking PF Changs rod if it's the last thing I do.
I beat maat on my second try, apparently you can use trusts on the fight though and make it easy.
I'm already having a good time playing it again, glad I resubbed.
At least the music in the new best area to fish moat carps is relaxing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J283Huf1axY
>>321101356
Probably because XIV shits on a lot of what made FFXI good. XIV is good in it's own right, but outside of the game world there isn't much that sets it apart from other games, and FFXI already has a better game world from what I feel, so outside of graphical appeal and "WoW Mechanics" there isn't much else going for it. So they are bummed out that XIV is attracting players to a world that isn't even half as fleshed out as XI is, and I've played both.
The main reason I hate FFXIV is because they made tarus look like pigs instead of adorable badasses. They got rid of a lot of the races' "character." Miquote don't fight in a aggressive feral animation like mithras do, it just looks like the character is gone from a lot of the races, like they are afraid to make things be different.
>>321065231
Yes we are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzrmwcSizIY
>>321105798
>>321105092
Oh yeah, and PUP, if you can actually figure that shit out. They're amazing tanks now.
>>321105128
>play in private server ATM
>be in one party 40 SCH BLM SAM SAM me as PLD
>they are pletty new to the game but very friendly and want to learn
>"hey lets do magic burts"
>they follow my instructions
>tfw Magic burst! takes 60% of HP
>they are amazed and really happy
>party go quickly, fun and easy
Its something I never will be in XIV "just press taskbar like DDR until the monster die and who cares about the others DPS until I read the parce"
>>321105798
>SCH is the best class in the game right now
And if they are still anything like they used to be they will also be the funnest to play.
Thank you anon, I might come back sometime this week since I'm on vacation, probably start a new character.
How hard is it to catch up atm?
>>321105092
Probably SCH, but BLM is very close behind.
PUP is sleeper op though. some japs can do crazy shit with it but I don't know how to do that shit
>>321106220
Catching up is super easy now, do a couple rhapsody quests, pop an EXP ring, and trust up, level 99 in no time.
>>321105967
Good luck on that rod, holy shit. And, yeah, don't use trusts on the Maat fights. I'm going to get that Maat hat legit before leaving.Who remembers Pikko?
>>321104573
Some WS's too. And some BLU spells.
>>321105128
The obsession of designers with "killing down time" basically destroyed all the windows people had for socializing.
A good half of FFXI was a half down-time spent in conversations. On top of the almost constant *need* for cooperation, which gave them a reason, it gave people the *occasion* to actually socialize. And groups then created themselves naturally and organically.
You can't obtain that in a no-downtime tool assisted context.
One of the things that kileld me with current butchered FFXI: the omnipresent teleportations killed a lot of down time, killed the sens of space and the need to time and schedule things all at once.
>>321106032
party synergy actually does matter in FFXIV though, its just less noticeable.
Each dps has something that can buff other dps or support the healers in some way. The problem is most people don't use it at the right times unless you're in something like a raid. Using stuff like battle litany at the right times though, does matter for party synergy a lot.
That being said FFXIV is still not as good as FFXI IMO. But the combat in each are two different monsters, since FFXIV combat is actually about learning the fights patterns while FFXI is more about reacting to stuff.
>>321106220
I started a new character at the end of November and I'm working on my third class to 99, finished Zilart and CoP, working on WotG and I only play a few hours a day if I can manage it. Make sure you play on Asura.
>>321106429
Is there a guide I could follow? My main intent is to actually finish the story.
>>321106471
I actually played on her server back in the day. I met her at the first ever FanFest, too.
she's so tiny
>>321105128
Bonds forged in 4 a.m. Joyeuse camping. In Scirocco Kukri farming. And Simurgh hunting.
>>321106506
Yeah the down time is what made FFXI so great.
Everywhere had so much detail that you could do some errand quests or craft or fish while lfg while still talking to people, it was wonderful.
>>321106471
I do. Damn I feel old.
>>321106636
I usually just google the mission I'm on and follow the wiki guides. They're fairly up to date. You could always join the /ffg/ group, too.
>>321106471
I remember that crazy mofo Avesta.
>>321106645
>>321106887
I remember when she quit. Right after somebody used her name for a mule during a server merger. Mad respect for people like her who made guides back in the day. Getting increasingly harder to find up to date information for a lot of stuff.
>>321101356
Two different communities with next to nothing in common. That and if you played old XI and enjoyed it, XIV is sure to either disappoint or bore you (or both).
>>321106683
>friday night
>in a good xping group
>decide we make a good team
>none of us are rank 3
>don't want to split up after xping
>decide to tackle ALL of rank 3 as that same group
>none of us really know what we're doing
>many deaths getting key items and such
>now a good deal past midnight, still pressing on through cit scenes and whatnot
>finally manage to fight and take out the windy dragon on the first try by cheating with items
>running back, beaten and tired, chunk of xp gone from deaths
>sun coming up irl
>all get our rank and airship passes
>despite being fucking tired and the damn sun now being up, we still decide to ride the airship as a party since we worked so long for it
>permanent friends now
>log off when ship lands and go the fuck to sleep
This will never happen in modern MMOs
Who here still plays XI on PS2?
>>321065231
they're tied with vanillafags.
Both need to constantly remind you about how the old stuff was bettereven tho TBC was better than Vanilla
>>321108149
I have everything aside from SoA on PS2, but it won't run due to the HDD being messed up.
>>321101041
the kyoani face is throwing me off
someone make it more slutty so i feel a bit less guilty
>>321108149
I could, but I'd have to update it for 8 hours just to play until the cutoff in March. Currently playing on shit laptop on the couch with ps4 controller. Comfy as fuck.
>>321108562
But kyoani girls can be slutty too. Go look for that teacher Mio doujin or the Mugi-whore doujins.
>>321069104
"Its the community!"
Same argument people who watch shitty scifi movies make. It's not about the game, its about the other people dumb enough to get roped into wasting time in 11.
>>321065231
Can I still play XI on 360/PS3/PC if I wanted to?
>>321108825
Pretty much. Dedicated people can make grinds enjoyable. I'm not blind to is many faults but I know i enjoyed being with my linkmates thru' those zilart and CoP missions. Fighting together and earning those victories thru' sweat and tears.
>>321108997
You can play the PS2/360 versions until March 2016. There aren't any plans to discontinue service for the PC version yet.
I can't speak for modern FFXI but when that game first came out it was a fucking nightmare. I have never in my life played a game that punished the player so hard for daring to play it. It was like trying to paint a picture with the brush taped to your dick while someone kicks you in the balls every 30 seconds.
>>321108997
Yeah, until they drop support in March for consoles. They're still going to be adding new content, even side-story stuff, for PC for AT LEAST the next year. Main story is finished, however, so a lot of new people are coming back just to play that.
>>321109325
>>321109368
Thank you, friends. Is it still fun and worth the subscription?
>>321109774
You're in a XI thread, majority will say yes. Depends if you can handle a solo experience or not or if you want to clear the story. Cause solo is pretty much the game unless you know people/get to 99
>>321103118
Was too poor to afford full +1. I had +1 Dark, Thunder, and Ice though.
>>321109774
Fun? Hell yeah, I'm having a blast. Worth the sub? Only if you can still get the game and all expansions from the website for $10. See how you feel after the free month.
>>321110079
>You're in a XI thread, majority will say yes.
I'm an FFXI oldfag and I say no
Abyssea and post-Abyssea ruined the game. And that's why we're so salty toward ARR, because ARR fucked up.
Now we're left with two mediocre games that don't compare to Golden Age FFXI (2003-2008)
>>321109329
But then you realized the paintings you made were amazing
>>321110230
Golden age was way longer than that unless you disregard ToAU for having easy story missions/fast leveling spots
>>321110230
>Abyssea
Everytime, Abyssea revived the game til they fucked it over again with logwatch. The game was sitting at a perpetual wall that was end-game 75 gear, and subs were dying due to the fuck all content that was WotG period.
The biggest flop of Aby was that it moved the level caps up way too quick and fucked everything up, had they spaced it out more or simply upped the cap to 80, thada been fine. Now post aby ill give you, post Aby was a disaster, adoulin was a final band-aid hat worked for a brief period.
But if that anon just wants to fuck around and complete some of the better FF stories, this is the best time to do so.
>>321110230
>>321109774
It's easy to find an LS with a bunch of 99s these days with nothing better to do than help you with whatever. I saw a group leveling in the dunes old school style for shits and giggles the other day. You choose how easy you want it to be these days.
>>321110878
>Everytime, Abyssea revived the game
yeah let's revive it by ruining every foundation. no thanks
>2004
>when a DRK joined and you had to start using Madrigal instead of Minuet
>>321095539
post-75 limit breaks were the worst.
>>321088965
its clearly a resist charm piece :3
>>321111259
That's more a fault of post aby, the problem was they didnt follow through with it. If you were around durign WotG and had done most of everything then there was absolutely nothing at all to do. Every lil batch of content they threw at you was either worthless, or RNG hell, game was becoming a ghost town. Ultimately this is SE's fault cause they focused all their money/attention into the abortion that was XIV 1.0.
But revitalizing the game wasnt a bad idea, just poorly handled because those idiots thought everyone would just hop ship to 14 once it came out so they had no fucking plans for after aby.
>>321111316
>mfw DRK accuracy
Funny shit. It's like they had a negative accuracy trait.
>>321110079
>>321110207
>>321111089
So, what about the story? Is it pretty good? I know fun-factor should matter, but I don't want to go around playing a game that I don't give a shit about, you know?
>>321112034
I will give XI credit for a good story. And good music but that's a given considering it's a FF game.
>>321108140
>airship
It was the goddamn chocobo license, my bad. I think airship was like rank 6 or 10.
It was a long time ago and the memories of two completely different events got muddled at the end there... The airship thing was an LS event and we all rode it at the end. The chocobo license was that tight pick up group during noob times.
>>321112034
Story's get better with each expansion and even the nation missions have a load of interest lore. CoP/AU are good, WotG+past nation mission storylines are top tier. Even adoulin/Rhapsody proved to be pretty good for what were rush jobs, though rhapsody is garbage for the most part til the bits before the finale.
ontop of that there are various fun/interesting quests throughout the game. Basically if you have a hard on for lore/good stories 11 has that in spades
>>321112034
It's final fantasy good, oh yeah, and there's a lot of it. Vanilla story is kinda meh, nation stories are good, Zilart was ok, CoP is fucking awesome (Prishe is best girl), WotG are nation stories 20 years in the past and are great, haven't played much of Aby story yet, RoV is a nice wrap up of the whole picture, Adoulin is meh but good in parts. ALL of it ties together as well, it really feels like one consistent world.
Anyone else pick up the priceless remembrance bluray? It kicks you right in the fucking feels man. Especially liked how it starts off with a journey to Jeuno for all 3 nations, fuck man that run was one of the most memorable MMO experiences I've ever had.
I really miss game design in general that allows you to get raped by monsters way above you, but puts cool shit on the other side of them. Makes for some solid fucking adventure. Especially when you throw high level players helping you out into the mix, it was like seeing super heroes defend you. Fuck man, we're never gonna get anything like that again.
>>321112307
>It was the goddamn chocobo license, my bad. I think airship was like rank 6 or 10.
5
>>321112417
RoV is really nice, especially as someone who came back from the 75 times, because it was basically a walk down expansion memory lane, but this time you get a cute yet troubled pet girl.
>>321112746
>Anyone else pick up the priceless remembrance bluray?
{Where?}
What I don't like is that SE gave XI a mobil adaptation instead of making a single-player offline version
>>321112842
Aye, i wont say it was terrible but 2/3'rd of it is just as you said, the good stuff doesn't come til the last 2/3, and they cut out alot of interaction between story chars just in case players hadnt cleared those storylines.For fucks sake ulmia doesnt even talk
>>321112842
Iroha is the cute disciplr i never knew I wantedto fuck right in all of her holes. I gotta teach her about the arts of love
As someone who only started with XIV, how was the upgrading system of XI?
Was there even one?
Was it a bullshit fest with 0.01% chance of success?
>>321112947
It makes sense. It's main audience at this point is JP,right? And JP is big on mobile gaming.
I don't know why SE can't just reset the game back to 0 and have it progress slowly towards the ending.
An official progression server that went for maybe 4-5 years would be perfect.
Though I suppose all the old code is lost so it'd be impossible for them to keep it authentic anyway.
>>321113172
Upgrade? What do you mean? Like XIV's materias?
>>321113172
XI was horizontal progression for around 10-11 yrs. There were various end-game activities you could do to get end-game tier gear, only one that was truly 0.01% success rate was really salvage. Fuck bhaflau, fuck that area so much.
This all worked due to the macro system though, every bit of end-game gear was useful in some way, to some job.
>>321112941
They don't have it out in NA yet but its region free and the menus have English on them under the Japanese. Since the USD to JPY rate is so good, you can get it at a pretty good deal right now. I got mine here:
http://otaku.com/products/42246
>>321113172
>upgrading system
The what now?
>>321113223
It makes sense from a business perspective but it gives the shaft to all the players who aren't into mobile games.
>>321113452
Yeah, I should have precised I was thinking of the materias.
Though to be fair, the materia are just SOMUCHFUCKING expensive which is what make them hard to come.
And since the next update will be really materia heavy, it kinda make me want to stop FFXIV since it took me 2 months to get 4M and 1 materia can cost 5M....
>>321113738
>>321113465
Thank you for the explanation.
>every bit of end-game gear was useful in some way, to some job.
I miss this kind of system in modern days mmo.
There's really no point to farm anything since it will turn obsolete in the next patch.
