Returned to this game since after it first released. GOD DAMN IT'S SO FUN. How the hell do people prefer CS: GO over this? There are now about 20 more maps than I remember, a ton more modes; yet most of all, the gameplay and gunplay are solid and tactical and if you get into a good server where people communicate and actually work as a team (actually quite common), it's some of the most fun I've ever had in a shooter.
Who Insurgency here?
>That moment you realize Insurgents always lose if no-one shouts ALLAHU ACKBAR at match beginning.
>>321059306
I have 180 hours in this and finally realised it's not that good after I started playing RO2.
It's just a clusterfuck where even though it's supposed to have a relatively small and dedicated community, 2/3rds of every team are total retards who ignore the objective and just run around playing Team Deathmatch.
Even bf4 is better than that crap.
I bought it on the sale yesterday and played it for a bit, did relatively well but it felt like trash. It's literally a modern setting RO2 stripped of all the aspects that made RO2 good.
>zero immersion
>tiny maps, 16v16 at best
>shitty animations
>really bad netcode
>teamplay is almost irrelevant, most voice communication consists of people cussing or muh tacticool snipers saying "tango down" whenever they kill somebody
After realizing that you can't even check the approximate ammo count (in a game where most of weapons are automatic), I just quit. This game is really fucking shallow and just bad. The only thing redeeming its existance is that there's basically no other ISIS simulators around.
>>321062156
>sprint+M1 all day: the game
>Better than Red Orchestra: Raghead Edition
Them's fightin' words.
>>321062693
>no other ISIS simulators around.
Project Reality
>>321061174
>2/3rds of every team are total retards who ignore the objective and just run around playing Team Deathmatc
true, then they vote for maps like sinjar so they can do their shitty sniper duels
fun game no matter what, 4 good players doing the objective can really make a difference
>>321062693
>no other ISIS simulators around
I'd get Squad but that 40$ price tag is pretty repulsive.
>>321062693
You don't check the ammo count IRL. You reload before going into a new room. Also the relpads are PR tier
>>321061174
Ever since the Humble Bundle happened where 4 copies could be bought for 1$ it's been like that. It completely ruined the game. I've been playing since a few months after it released from Early Access and though there were only a few hundred players back then, the game was a lot better because the playerbase wasn't full of retards.
>>321059306
>How the hell do people prefer CS: GO over this
Because people like games with skill and skill differentiation, not a shooter where you get kills by staying in one spot and aiming at a corner
>>321063474
Just play project reality, it's got so much more content than Squad, it's not even funny. Interface is a little clunkier, but not half as bad as ArmA. Get Squad when it's had another year or two to add content and gets a good sale. It's what I wish I'd done.
>>321059306
GO gives you a completely different feel. It's more "clean" and maps are very abstract outside of visuals, it's also obviously less realistic but who cares. I enjoy both games for different reasons.
>>321059306
I like coop.
>>321062156
It actually provides a very similar, but parallel experience to BF4.
Both games are about playing in a coordinated team to maximize the fun you have.
>>321062693
Zero immersion? RO2 has way more intrusive UI and kill feed, so you always know if your shots hit the mark.
Also the sound of bullets hitting walls around you is 10/10.
>>321063806
>BF4
>About team coordination
Not in a hundred hours of playing online have I seen anything that resembles a coordinated team.
I'm sure competitive play is different (Is there any comp play for BF4?) but pubs are totally void of teamwork.
>>321063885
This, Insurgency has way better sound design, way better effects, and a much cleaner interface.
I absolufuckinglutely hate competitive multiplayer games of any kind. But the co-op in this is pretty good.
Only play insurgency for the Co op but I like how everyone is sort or "in character" and call out enemies as "tango" and calling flanks and stuff, it's a blast. What adds to it are the radio effects it adds when allies voice chat from a distance
>>321063765
The price will only go up. At least if you buy it now and forget about it for 2 years you'll have a good game to come back to eventually, and you won't have to buy it at whatever price it is when it comes out of early access.
>>321062693
>really bad net code
Now I just think you're a retard. It's open server. You can join any server and it's source. Join a 128tick rate server like true grit if you want to see. The server you were on being bad doesn't mean it has bad netcode
Why don't people play night maps anymore?
>>321064029
I don't think it'll go up by much, certainly not past the $60 mark, and I'd be surprised if it gets that far.
>>321063980
My only gripe with Insurgency's sounds is with the LMGs. The RPK especially sounds so wimpy.
>>321064097
Beats me, but I'm continually annoyed that flares don't actually light an area to any useful degree.
>>321063998
yea it sucks finding out how shit you re in comparison to other pwople /sarcasm
>>321064097
Night maps are retarded. Especially for some of us with these ultra bright asus monitors so I can see perfectly fine, it was like cheating when I'd lay somewhere and get dozens of kills. Only one I tolerate is contact
>>321064097
They are annoying as fuck and the americuns have the upper hand.
>>321062693
I think the shitty animations are hilarious
>>321063885
HIt marks on RO2 are disabled by default IIRC from my days on Stalingrad.
Then Rising Storm came and everyone forgot about Eastern Front :(
Man I miss that church on Spartanovka, or the Red Oktober Factory.
>>321063998
Yeah I wouldn't want to test my ability to pull the trigger than some brain dead ai
Fucking autist and fat people avoid comp multiplayer games
>>321064193
I play video games for fun not rage. Try hard.
Feels worse after every update in the past year.
>>321064281
>HIt marks on RO2
I'm talking about the "FagBallz (killed) HitlersBoner" in the upper right corner, those are on by default. Also I live in eastern Yurop and basically every active server is running the original RO2, so I never really got to try the shotgun.
>>321062693
>tiny maps
Smaller maps, but some do compare to rising storm size maps.
>16v16
That's bad?
>REALLy BAD NETCODE
Done reading. You're a retard.
>>321064327
>playing games for fun
Consider ending yourself.
>>321063674
What is the awp? What is defending objectives? Or are you the douche bag who doesn't stay with the bomb or hostages and plays as if deathmatch?
>>321064327
>I play for fun
>which means my fat fingers can't be the average 21 year old American male shooting me
Lose weight fatty
>>321064414
In what way?
>>321064316
>>321064193
The problem is that its not like when you get online people on the jihad side play like how radical islamic terrorists would play and the people on the American side play how Americans would play.
Everyone kinda just does whatever. And its like COD
Atleast withe COOP you get SOME realism.
>>321064627
You should stick to fire fight true grit servers then
>>321064097
Nightvision or flashlight is annoying. Unless you want to run around blind or with the contrast all the way up.
Fun fact: worst map is Peak Night. You cannot disprove this.
>>321064316
Does it feel better now that you got it off your chest? It's ok we all seek justification for our wasted time so maybe we can feel a little bit better about ourselves when we waste time and master some shitty online multiplayer game and brag about it on shitty anonymous board.
>>321064716I don't even play this game anymore, but the ai is piss easy. It's completely fucked. *realism is an ai rpg inside a building and killing 6 people, ok
>>321064810
Like I give a fuck what is piss easy or not. It'sfunwhich is a thing long lost to many.
>>321063980
>Not in a hundred hours of playing online have I seen anything that resembles a coordinated team.
Well that's the point, both BF4 and Insurgency are games to be played in a Skype call with five friends.
Both games are diminished if you try to play alone.
In BF4 my score and k/d double when I play with my friends and we coordinate.
>>321064487
Thats why i don't awp, especially in CSGO where valve has full creative reign and have no idea how to make a shooter
>>321064810
What difficulty do you put them in? On the hardest, ai uses RPG more frequently and actually shoot worth a damn. I get my squad wiped quickly if we don't keep on our toes.
>>321064997
I don't doubt it.
The real trick is finding a game that encourages teamwork so well that even pubs work together actively in a positive and rewarding manner.
I've not seen much of that outside of Project Reality and, surprisingly, R6 Siege.
>>321061174
Fucking this
I've played RO2/RS for fucking ages and got Insergency 2 days ago during the sale. While the gunplay and sound is very good the maps and game modes are fucking shit and equipment system sucks.
RO2 is definitely better team oriented.
>>321065260
>equipment system sucks
Yeah, RO2 and it's "grind grind grind so I can put a drum mag in my PPSh" is so much better!
>>321064810
also this
>>321065137
I personally only stick to elite and hardcore coop with unforgiving ai when playing this game and it's probably the most tacticool experience you gonna get.
People actually work togther to accomplish something whoa can you believe it?
>>321065232
The only games I really see that in are strictly coop games like Warframe, Gears of War 3, Alien Swarm.
For some reason 90% of the population goes rabid in a competitive setting and becomes completely self-serving.
Like the snipers playing objective gametypes in BF4 or every CoD player ever.
>>321065324
yep
>>321061174
yeah i played RO2 since 2013 and bought insurgency when it was in sales for like 2 euros recently, havent played that much so can't really Judge but i have to say at the moment i'm not really impressed
>>321065493
haha
fuck your opinions
>>321065492
>Alien Swarm
Damn, I wish that game had picked up more support. Helldivers scratches much of the same itch, but despite having loads more content and still being ridiculous fun, doesn't ever get quite as tactical as AS.
>>321065627
Not so much an opinion as much as a factual observation from most who have played both games.
Sorry if that makes you upset, friend.
>>321065720
I miss downloading an arena map and grinding for levels for hours.
>>321065810
>from most
oh yeah sure
I love call of duty unlocks too
>select all squares with gift boxes
wtf
>>321059306
ill dump some of my screens. insurgency rocks.
>>321065720
I waited patiently for Helldivers to come to PC but the price and DLC put me off.
It was $15 on PSN, on PC it's $20/$30.
>>321065896
CS:S gun modding era back bois
>>321065810
>anime girl
anyways insurgency is just islam simulator
>>321059306
>How the hell do people prefer CS: GO over this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds&feature=youtu.be
Because CS is for shit-eating casuals that need RNG to kill the skill ceiling.
>>321065990
>>321066092
Are you using three 4:3 monitors you madman?
>>321065928
With any luck it'll be on sale today.
And yeah, the DLC is a little annoying, but so much of it is shareable call-ins that if you have some friends to play with you'll get 90% of the experience just from one of you having the DLC.
>>321066092
>>321061174
>thinking insurgency is a clusterfuck after playing ro2
there are like 2 good ro2 servers in total
>>321063674
That doesn't make sense because CS is about getting lucky RNG and camping.
>>321059306
Does the game feature a insurgency style Coop mode, ala Arma 2?
And how big are the maps if so?
>>321062693
>>really bad netcode
What? It actually has decent netcode, compared to almost all the other modern online shooters that are out.
>>321066020
tell me about it. i have a weaknes for small guns equipped with huge fucking scopes (and any other accesories)
>comparing csgo to insurgency
and ace combat is better than dcs world
The survival and outpost mode on this is also excellent.
>>321062693
>>really bad netcode
i can play on NA servers from EU without any problems
I only enjoy co-op.
PVP is fucking boring honestly
>>321066306
Did you forget to take your adderall?
i have like thirty hours on insurgency
love it
csgo just has a different gunfeel and it just feels better to shoot in it than in insurgency, which to me is more about immersion and shit.
>>321066248
Yes, but maps are mostly about 2x the size of a counterstrike map. A couple large ones are 2-3x that.
>>321059306
Played this game last night with friends. Some of the most fun I've had in a while.
>>321066248
Maps are small.Coop mode is surviving for as long as possible.Every wave increases the difficulty.Not that much worth playing if you ask me.
>>321066457
>>321066532
Thanks. Guess i have to wait and hope for squad to do insurgency Coop.
>>321066429
csgo is a sterile competetive shooter
is just a jolly good time to play, don't read to much into my analogy, they are just two very different games.
>>321062693
>cs babby cries about netcode
>doesn't realize it's the same fucking engine with the same netcode
Holy shit my sides
>>321066532
what? co-op is either progressing through the map blowing up weapons caches with insurgents and sometimes defending from them.
then there's the night time co-op which is about silently taking out everyone
>>321062693
You're just mad because you got you shit pushed. Stop pretending.
>>321066167
you bet. samsung s24d300h with 2x syncmaster 204b with custom resolutions and refresh rate to make up for pixel pitch difference and tmds timing difference.
>>321061174
It was the other way around for me. I played a lot of RO2, and enjoyed it, still do, but when I started Insurgency I enjoyed it more.
RO2 feels fairly unbalanced, and it's a lot easier to catch people at spawns (or at least it was when I last played). I prefer Insurgency for its faster pace and less forgiving nature, unless you're in a lobby with killfeeds and no friendly fire, in which case it's shit.
It's definitely plagued with idiots recently though.
>>321066639
I wouldn't expect a lot of emphasis on co-op from Squad, it's very PvP focused, same as Project Reality.
>>321066782
I dont remember those mods.I only played survival ones.
>>321066898
Really? Didn´t PR have some kind of Coop vs ai mode, or am i in the wrong now.
Guess i can always continue to insurgency in arma then.
>>321066832
Why wouldn't you just get a single ultra widescreen monitor?
>>321066972
It does, but it's really, really primitive, using the simplistic AI from BF2.
ArmA is always going to be better for PvE, and PR/Squad is always going to be better for PvP.
Just a matter of what they're setting out to do.
What's your guys take on Squad? Its from the core team that made Project Reality
https://youtu.be/5ysn0bZAQMU
>>321067157
Yeah, i guess. Just a shame Arma 3 got flooed with RP and KOTH mod(e). Like 1 public modded operation server only.
>>321067315
if you buy it for me I'll tell you
>>321067315
There's no doubt that it'll be good, if you're the type who was into PR in the first place.
But it's pretty light on content right now, especially for $40 and compared with PR's enormous library of maps, weapons, factions, and vehicles.
>>321067401
im looking to buy it as well. thats why i asked.
>>321067117
price.
my side screens are ultra-cheap used monitors from ebay-like site. 24d300 is like one one of the cheapest passable monitors so i went with it. i paid like 250 bucks for all of them. (computer accesories are kinda expensive in my country). also you get much more space if you go with three monitors.
>>321067461
yeah, i was thinking the same thing.
Still, it does seem damn good.
>mfw you see a rocket flying at your face but you can't do anything about it
>>321067117
I have three 22" 1080p BenQ monitors and together they cost less than a single 24" ASUS.
>>321067315
>those animations
well then
Is AP ammo still a one-hit kill to the chest with any gun bigger than an SMG even if the guy has heavy armor?
>>321059306
Insurgency is like playing Project Reality in a public CS server.
It will never be as tacticool as a game like PR or Squad, and it will never have the tight gameplay, persistent reward system or semi-social feel of Competitive Mode CS:GO.
Is insurgency worth paying $20 for?
It's a bit expensive but looks fun.
>>321059306
>How the hell do people prefer CS: GO over this?
skins
>>321067315
>it's from the x team that made x
I can't think of a single good game that backed this statement up ever.
>>321067761
No. Everyone here plays it because they had it already, got it for free during a humble bundle or bought it for 2 dollars when it was on sale a couple days ago.
>>321064419
Most servers put a delay on the obituary so you can't use it as a pseudo-hitmarker.
>>321067825
Wasnt necessarily using it for proof of quality. Just using it as a way of recognition.
>>321067720
This is why. Insurgency is good, but cs:go is just a different game.
Allahu akbar mod update fucking when?
>>321067761
No, but it's £1.74 on G2A.
>>321059306
First insurgency mod was fun as hell. God dammit I love the washing machine best position for a LMG.
Washing machine is life, washing machine is victory!
FFS they had so many plans, bring in brit bongs, sadly never happend othr nations.
so sad.
The standalone is not bad but I dont like the PMC thing going on.
>>321067854
You can't, but you still see it and it doesn't feel very "realistic".
>>321067535
>>321067651
Ah, okay. I was asking because I intend to get one soon instead of a multi-monitor setup for playing games, because the borders bother me too much, and I never use my second monitor for anything else. Thought there might be an issue with them I wasn't aware of.
>>321067761
Just wait christmas.It's like M&B.
>>321067825
JoWood
>>321067761
was 2$ few days ago.
Maybe I just got lucky, but so far the community is pretty nice and people like to have fun while still playing somewhat seriously.
>someone starts singing Jihadi Johnes song
>>321064029
The price isn't supposed to increase
I have about 86 hours logged in and i loved it, but I havent played the game using a microphone.
I should really set up a microphone, right?
>>321067574
>>321067461
Pretty fun game, a little janky. But it's way too light on content for the asking price right now. It's gonna be good someday and worth that price tag, but not right now.
>>321067602
ARRRR PEEEE GEEEEEEE
-CLUNK-
>>321067954
I recommend BenQ, but if you can get a 21:9 monitor for a decent price that's a very good alternative.
Honestly I play very few games at 5760x1080 because so few of them have proper UHD support and when they do there's usually some caveat that ruins the experience.
When it works right it's unparalleled though.
>>321066020
>wanted to get into insurgency modding
>get all the tools
>there are no publicly relased IK rigs despite there being modders making custom animations
>debinarizing the smd's results in models where you have to move each bone independently.
>resulted in my having to make my own IK rig to move this source engine abomination.
>got most of it to work but some of the in-software mesh representation just doesn't behave, but it doesn't matter as it will do what its supposed to in game.
What the FUCK is wrong with valve. I heard so much about how accessible the source engine was, aka by now with all of the content created for it you just went and downloaded the SDK for the game and manipulated it, not having to create the universe to make the pie.
>>321067893
What's the difference?
>>321067972
>Painkiller: Overdose
BZZZZZZZZZZZT
THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE!
THIS IS OUR LAND!
>>321061174
This. Try playing the original RO and Darkest hour which emphasize vehicular support too. In general it creates a more involved experoence.
Good mods for Insurgency? I already have the SOCOM one and its nice.
What about the Operator one? is it any good?
>>321068543
White shirt and jeans... right?
>>321067954
when youre playing games youre not thinking about them. your brain kinda "removes them" from your vision. dunno how to explain that better. only time when theyre annoying is when they obscure your ui. csgo for example makes hud extremely huge in 3 display mode and some of the the game messages are essentially unreadable. valve has not yet fixed this and i doubt they ever will. insurgency on the other hand is absofuckinglutely delicious on 3 screens. highly recommend.
if money is not an issue i guess 1 big ass wide screen could be ok but i'd prefer 3 proper screens any time of the day.
>>321068410
>Valve
You mean that company that runs a video games vending machine and occasionally offers shit pay to buyout young developers who have already created something interesting for them to sell?
Allahu screamers are fucking cancer, I dont know how its still so popular after listening to it in almost every match for over a year.
>>321066835
>unbalanced
That's life. It's not debated wether or not Germany had a technological advantage over the Russians. Look at the death count for Operation Barbarossa.
>catch them in the spawns
No duh it's easier to kill someone just as they spawn.
>less forgiving
RO and RO2 are leagues less forgiving for mistakes. In Insurgency lone wolf play is completely possible and in some situations viable. In the RO's moving by yourself will just get you mowed down by an MG or picked off by a rifleman.
>>321068578
I have these
>>321063998
i like the coop mode. some brain dead players still don't know how to check corners.
What are your favorite sound mods and skins /v/?
>>321066183
Is that a modded SPAS or did I miss something? I haven't played Insurgency since September.
>>321068675
Someone get me a tourniquet!
>>321067954
oh, also, setting up 3 monitor setup is huge hassle. nvidia doesnt allow different monitors to be used in surround mode, amd does in eyefinity but if your graphics card doesnt have three dp ports it sucks (due to differences in port timings your side monitors will be tearing. this issue can be significantly reduced by forcing the monitors to run at higher refresh rates then they allow but its a hit and miss procedure). just a headsup in case you'd ever think about getting 3 displays.
Did they ever fix the mods needing to be restarted via console command because they don't apply on launch?
>>321069093
yeah, its modded though. steam insurgency workshop.
>>321068936
In a video game with PvP, balance is pretty damn important. I'd argue more-so than realism.
I'm talking about spawn camping. I was capable of doing it, as were others.
Spawning on your team mates is more what I had in mind with the "less forgiving". I also know from experience that you can definitely play "lone wolf" in RO2, maybe not as frequently or as easily in Insurgency because of the maps.
I love RO2, it's one of my most played games, but I'll take a good Insurgency game over a good RO2 game, personally. RO2 at least has that going more consistently than Insurgency seems to, though.
>>321068701
it looks like this
>>321063674
>Thinking that getting kills in this game means you're a good player.
This guy doesn't even play the coop.
I love RO2 , but what always makes me quit is how most servers have 40+ bots activated. I hate that shit.
Funny thing is TWI made the game maps auto scaleable in size (boundary-wise) depending on the amount of players on the server.
Even so...people still want a lot of enemies on a map.
>>321070053
>>321067315
The fact that it's $50 bucks Early Access with barely any content - made by the turbokike rejects of the PR team. Down the road it will most likely be a good purchase but at this time there's literally no point in playing it over PR.
Am I only one who plays it for immersion and atmosphere?
>>321070301
>turbokike rejects
Did some drama go down or something ?
>>321070456
There was plans to make Project Reality 2. Some guys wanted to keep it free, other guys wanted to monetize it ( which is fair, PR has been free for decades with constant updates), but 50 dollars EA with so little content is a joke.
>>321068857
>gets mad at memes
>uses the meme 'cancer'
Lol, okaaaaay buddy.
>>321068957
Coop is underrated in this game. Thanks to the mlg tryhards of course.
Best mod for insurgency right here
>picked this up for like 3 dollars
this shit is a fuck ton better than cs go, i can never go back
>>321072932
Mod
>>321068578
'Must have':
>d_prac's More Crack Supersonic Sound Mod
>INS Custom Weapon Sound Pack
Others:
>Islamic State Insurgency Mod
>US Army ACU/UCP 525th BfSB/Generic Troops
>[AKM] Fixed wooden stock
>CompM4s Aimpoint
>Classic M590 (No Shotgun Sight)
>Russian SideMount
>Kobra Red Dot
>Transparent in-game background
>Russian PSO-1 for PO-4 Replacement
>iLag's ACOG Reticle (for Elcan/C79) [Version 3 Red BDC]
>Trijicon Acog - Updated
>Wooden FAL
>>321070337
the sounds of the bullets are neat
>>321072932
Are you russian?
>>321059306
Insurgency is a place for silver shitters to feel important.
It's a fun well made game but I rarely have to do anything more complicated than rushing there flank and having knowledge of the map. It's so rare to find a competent ambush match
>>321074263
>brightide's reanims and replacement weps
>not must have
0/10
>>321075542
The re-animations, sure, but the weapon re-skins depends on what you're looking for.
The only ones I'm mildly interested in are the ACR-E, Spas12 (not really, don't want to replace the M590), and the M4/M16 conversion pack, which I think I'll download right now.
>>321075434
You act like CSGO players are good. I made a global elite CS shitter go negative in Black Ops 3. They can't aim, they fumble with fast speed and movement and they have zero awareness. All CS players can do is stand still and hope RNG rolls in their favor.
>>321071256
>mlg tryhards
more like try-at-alls. fighting bots in games like this is the most casual as fuck braindead shit you can do. I did it when I was 12 years old and the idea of competing with other humans actually stressed me out.
>>321078858
> I did it when I was 12 years old and the idea of competing with other humans actually stressed me out.
You mean competing with your middle-school friends over who can sound more badass and mature over 3$ mic right?
You mlg tryhards get always so defensive geez tone it down a bit you are embarrasing yourself. If I repeat that multiplayer games in general areshitwill you cry me a river?
>>321066738
this desu senpai
>>321066738
>>cs babby
he's a RO2 fan tho?
