FFXII is not a good game in any way except graphics.
Its actually the best main FF
FINAL FANTASY IX IS THE FUCKING BEST FF GAME AND YOU KNOW IT
EVERY OTHER FF GAME IS JUST SHIT
>>320961934
FF7 is the best one.
>>320961934
wtf? FF12 is the best one
>>320961934
>FFXII low tier alongside fucking XIII
>>320961934
gambits were a good idea though
every JRPG with A.I. allies should have it
The international version has excellent gameplay and is one of the best RPGs on PS2:
>character customization that makes you committ you classes for a unique playthrough, like FF1
>huge feast of side quests, the game is well balanced and very challenging
>all gambit are unlocked at the start. The new turbo button incentives you to program a self sufficient party with gambits, as the turbo button will kill you otherwise
it has by far the best gameplay of any FF, especially when you consider how easily 7/8 are exploited and easy and 9 has no character customization.
>>320961934
>includes X-2
>misses out XIII-2
>and LRXIII
>and XI
>and XIV:RR
UnderageBanned
>>320962251
>>320961934
>13 is bad meme
>13 (and 12) is as bad as 2 or 3
FUCK YOU
Final Fantasy 13 is just misunderstood, alright?
>>320962476
I agree. Xenoblade would have been pretty good if it just had some kind of gambits system
>>320962651
Sorry if your waifu is shit anon.
>>320962653
Yeah it would have made Xenoblade perfect.
Also FF12 has much better side content than Xeno. Ff12 has a huge list of unique and challenging bosses and encounters. Xenoblade has ~3 superbosses and over 1000 boring KILL X fetch quests.
FF12 is better than literally every gamu except 6 and 9
>>320961934
- Gambits add a strategy element to the previously monotonous "Attack, Defend, Magic vs. Weakness" menu system.
- The story, though traditional, is far more polished and accessible (thus cathartic and universal) than any other Final Fantasy.
onlooker to events much, much larger than his station in life would ever become allows for an unique and refreshing take on the hero's journey compared to what previous FFs had relied on; all of which suffered from a predictable rise from rags to superhuman, world-saving riches instead of a more plausible hero who was full of faults and truly relied on his teammates instead
- The use of an 'unplayable' main protagonist in Basch/Ashe, with the player character as a virtual onlooker to events much, much larger than his station in life would ever become allows for an unique and refreshing take on the hero's journey compared to what previous FFs had relied on; all of which suffered from a predictable rise from rags to superhuman, world-saving riches instead of a more plausible hero who was full of faults and truly relied on his teammates instead of carrying them through in every instance.
- Three lovely ladies and two straight-up ballers accompany you - each with their own recognizable yet discrete backstories and character arcs which are eminently satisfying and integrated into the main narrative seamlessly, and are both causal and conditional to the overarching narrative.
- The motion capture, character design, lore, voice acting, and English translation are unrivaled in a Final Fantasy, and even in most video games, period.
TL;DR Final Fantasy XII (specifically IZJS) is the pinnacle of the franchise and for any future title to have a hope to supersede it, a paradigm shift in narrative and design when it comes to the medium itself would be virtually the only way.
>>320961934
I liked 12. I liked the 13 series.
Free shrugs.tiff
>>320962476
Too bad gambits sucked shit since they're a PC RPG mechanic in a console RPG with far fewer input options, thus making the whole thing clunky and frustrating to the point where you just say fuck it and have them automate your entire party.
>>320961934
Nigga I've played every single FF game including Theatrhythm and Dissidia. And I can say without any doubt XII is THE best one, with IX and VI just behind.
>God Tier
>VII
>X
How to spot the retard
>>320961934
Made changes by my opinion.
>>320963007
Play IZJS, all gambits unlocked at the start.
I could configure a party to be self sufficient against Yiazmat with the turbo button on; there was no lack of options.
>>320963219
>6
>not God tier
6 is better than 7 in every single way
Looks better, plays better, sounds better, everything else is better.
7 is baby's first final fantasy, it's pretty mediocre
>>320962497
>The game is good if you completely replace the leveling system with an alternate system
>>320962124
hang on nigga I gotta wait for the loading screen for battles to finish and then the 20-30 second camera pan of the enemies before I can post a rebuttal.
>>320962970
>Gambits add a strategy element
Once you set them, you just need to move the right stick forward and let the AI do the rest. It's lazy and boring.
>>320963007
I dunno, I thought my allies behaved pretty good with my gambit setup
I'd also automatically turn off the gambits for my party leader and set the battle system to "active" and speed to "fast"
it was way batter than the battle systems from XIII, Xenoblade Ni No Kuni and such.
I still prefer turn based since I like to have full control over everyone
FFXII IZJS Remaster when?
The battle system was so much less clunky. It's the best marriage between turn and real time you can make.
>>320963407
Yes that's what he said. The game gets better when you improve it.
>>320962970You have some breddy gud taste, especially with vagrant story
>>320963407
FF12 IZJS is really good. The job system makes every playthrough unique and gives you complete customization over your party.
Whereas in vanilla every party member learns the same shit and maxes out the same boards.
Plus all gambits are unlocked from level one. And you're incentizied to program them well because the turbo button will kill you otherwise.
Don't be mad because you played the Beta version. Play IZJS version and get glad.
>>320961934
8 is at high tier so you aren't capable of judging it
>>320961934
Jesus fucking christ
FFV in mid tier while FFX is in god tier
Your taste is so shit that I can't describe it with words.
>>320963219
>FFT, XII
>low tier
ebin
>>320963501
Maybe at the end of the game when all 12 slots are opened, but good luck no-braining it through when you have to fight a flying enemy followed by an undead followed by magic resistant followed by magic-weak, all while needing to heal and cure poison.
>God Tier
>X
>>320961934
I agree, same goes for FF7 and FFX. Only FFs worth playing are 1, 3-6, 9, and the tactics series. I think xv looks interesting though.
>>320963501
Not in the more difficult areas of IZJS. Places like the Necropolis will fuck you up if you leave Gambits on and autopilot, and there are specific parts of the level design to challenge you if you try it (like the roaming Elementals who are immune to most damage types)
>>320961934
golden age tier
4 5 6 7
high tier
9 12
mid tier
1 3
bad tier
2 8 10
Antichrist tier
13 trilogy
please be the start of a renaissance tier
15
Alright, you homos are finally convincing me to play 12 and IZJS, I assume it emulates well?
>>320964206
yes
>>320963219
My nigga
>>320963497
And don't forget
>watching the victory poses
>watching the exp loot screen
>loading the overworld
>>320963219
>>320964206
>tfw 6x resolution @ 40-50fps
>>320964316
So....no different from 7 and 8 then?
Nigga you jell cause 9 bess
>>320964160
This to be extremely honest with you familiar.
>>320964206
Emulates perfectly on PCSX2.
Almost any party can 100% the game. There are some optimal choices, like Ashe samurai, but min maxing makes little difference. Note that unlike vanilla, you can find all weapon types (like claymores or ninja swords) early on.
The translation of the job titles is strange, so read up on them before committing. For example, the "Hunter" or whatever is actually a ninja who is an evasion tank with Decoy buff. Probably my favorite class.
Also there are no significant missables, Zodiac spear he always accessible. Only significant missables are the Genji Gear which must be stolen from Gilgamesh.
>>320964206
Emulates greatly.
Final Fantasy XII is the best Final Fantasy game by a huge margin.
>>320964959
>Todd_Howard.jpg
>>320961934
X in God tier hell no that game was basically FF XIII ps2 addition minus the battle system
FF XII is good, but nothing will ever surpass FF VI.
>>320964270
>>320964690
Sounds great. Are mages worthless in the game like most FF's or do they remain useful the whole way through?
Honestly the only mainline FF games I actually dislike are II and VIII.
Its a pretty consistently good franchise outside the spinoffs.
>>320961934
Replace VII and X from God Tier with IX and XII and you'd have my list. VII would be in High Tier and X would be in Mid Tier
Fuck you 13 is my favorite besides 8
Out of the ones I've played, this.
Could swap VIII and XII though.
>>320966225
Let me throw Chrono Trigger into God Tier for shits and giggles (...might as well throw Chrono Cross into mid tier).
IV is my favourite FF.
>>320965904
Mages are pretty fucking important, Buffs must always be kept up, debuffs are about as useless as you'd expect from the other games in the series but later on since you have essentially infinite mana it's good to have at least one person who can spam Scathe against some asshole with immunity to physical attacks,
>>320964206
the last time I tried to emulate it, the floor textures were missing.
