VC is truly Nintendo's greatest shame
That amazing library and so few of them are available
>>320958789
The first bomber 64 was better
>Wanting to willingly pay money for inferior, cropped, darked down ports of games when you can easily play them for free on any shitty laptop
>Excepting NoA to ever give a shit about supporting the VC when it isn't for shilling sake when you know full well they have already given up due to ease of access to emulators
SE, the rights holders, don't know MM exists or care that much about Wii U VC.
The other two I imagine is just Konami not giving a shit.
>>320959034
what's the matter, you don't like shitty ai-controller pokemon-knockoff partners?
>>320959059
>he thinks they're ports
>>320959174
Well what the fuck do you call putting a game on a different console?
Don't you fuck dare try to say they're "remakes" when all they're doing is optimizing the rom to work well on a WiiU without changing anything else at all.
The only time I can even think of actual changes being made was to Duck Hunt, Pokemon Snap, and Pokemon RBY, and those certainly aren't remakes.
>>320959448
Emulations.
>>320959448
No they're not remakes, but they're not ports.
They're running off an emulator, you dont say youre playing a port of mario 64 on your laptop do you?
>Only Mystical Ninja
Shit nigga, what about Goemon's Great Adventure?
>>320959059
>N64 emulation
>all those noteworthy SNES games on JP VC but not US or EU VC
>that near non-existent N64 VC support even though PC N64 emulators are shit and means a lot more people would be willing to buy them
>>320959761
>Not emulating n64 on a smartphone or tablet with a nice controller
>>320958789
bomberman 64 > bomberman hero > bomberman the second attack
Apart from the cool reunion with Regulus there was nothing noteworthy about that game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLU2JA1XBG8
>>320959905
Comfiest theme in existence
Mischief makers would be pointless because of the controls.
>>320959545
>>320959514
Whoops. Didn't realize "port" was the incorrect term.
why would anyone want The Second Attack over 64?
It's literal shit
>>320960176
It's a tie between Blue Resort and Fatidic from Hero for me personally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDum1GrI9-w
Where's Bomberman Hero? That game is amazing, only reason it got mediocre reviews was because it's a Bomberman game with no multiplayer
fixed it for ya, OP
this is the holy trinity, really guys? There weren't 3 other games that everyone wants on VC?
>>320961297
>Not Redial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qutUyQqhjdM
>>320958789
Because they're having trouble implementing the gamepak and Konami are cunts
Because SE are cunts
And again because Konami are cunts
>>320961463
Post yfw you found outSirius was a bad guy
>>320959059
>Mystical Ninja and Mischief Makers
>emulating well
Lofty.
>>320960775
Anon now you can take your knowledge to future threads and continue the cycle of informing people that certain "ports" are just being emulated
The cycle of memes and death continues
>>320961106
Far less people got to play Second Attack, it's expensive as fuck on the after market, emulation for it is shit, and they'd like to be able to give it a try
There's a lot of untapped potential in all the services similar to Virtual Console. It's really a shame and I was instantly turned off by the PS2 games coming to PS4 being separate from previous PS2 game purchases on my PS3.
>>320958789
Konami
Square Enix
Konami
>>320961663
>>320961972
Where did they go wrong?
>>320961564
Redial is a different kind of feel. I'd compare it to Green Gardens, upbeat and energetic while the Fatidic and Blue Resort are laid back.
>>320961564
>>320962182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq9V9vc2Ca0
>>320961463
>tfw Bomberman 64 was all just a big sham, just like Mario Bros. 3, none of it actually happened, it was all just a show
>>320962243
this exists
>>320962173
Around mid 6th/start 7th gen, when focus started to shift away from japanese games to western ones
>>320958789
>Why The Fuck Aren't These On VC Yet
Because Konami.
Well, this doesn't work for Mishief Makers but I like to blame Konami for that tooo, because.
>>320962340
the fuck are you talking about?
>>320962340
I dont recall any of that in Bomberman 64
but i'll admit i never played The Second Attack
>>320962550
The outtakes, Anon, the outtakes
>>320962703
The outtakes were just a gag put in by Hudson, they're like the ones from Toy Story 2, they're not supposed to be taken seriously
>>320958789
I loved Bomberman 64 as a kid, I don't think it would hold up well today though?
Is Second Attack worth emulating?
>>320963762
infinite% worth it because it's a great game that you'd be playing for free
>>320963957
i think he might be asking if it emulates well, since N64 emulators can be pretty shitty on games that arent by nintendo
>There will never be a new Ganbare Goemon
>Konami will never sell the rights to Nintendo so the creators at Good Feel can work on it again
Konami can rot in hell.
>>320964232
I actually only wanted to know if the game is good or not, but knowing if the game emulates well in the first place would be nice to know aswell
>>320958789
>Trinity
>Three
>>320963762
no
I mean sure its not very common, blah blah, but its not very good
Its music is bland and shitty, its glitched to hell and back, the puzzles are gadeschool simple shit, and its clunky as fuck
all in all, good idea, bad execution
I rate 5/10, its about average, nothing spectacular, nothing downright shitty
you're better off just bouncing to Hero though, or Jetters if you're interested in more 3D platforming with Bomberman
>>320964439
>good feel
pls no, they'll just turn it into another game about yarn
nintendo will never VC The Second Attack, its too rare, one copy can sell for 100 dollars
>>320965027
>talking shit about Good Feel's yarn games
And I bet you didn't like Wario Land: Shake It either, you colossal faggot.
>>320961562
Like? Can't you provide one?
>>320959171
pommy's such a complete non-element I don't know how he could even be a factor in whether or not you like the game
>>320961679
>>320959059
TSA doesn't emulate perfectly to my knowledge, either.
>>320965368
Yoshi's Island
Megaman X3
Ristar
Bomberman 64
Megaman 6
Chrono Trigger
Duke Nukem 64
TMNT: Turtles In Time
Earthbound 2
Mario Paint
>>320965328
i'm not shitting on them, I like them, I'm just saying they'd most likely make a yarn game and I just feel like the IPs they use for these yarn games never really fit
and no, I didn't like Shake It, but only because I hate the Wiimote
>>320964464
If I recall it works well enough, but expect slowdown.
>>320961435
The reason it got mediocre reviews was because it's a platformer that's really fucking slippery and has a shitty camera for a number of sections.
>>320964464
>>320963762
Emulates... okay. There are some issues, but it's playable. I don't think it's as interesting as B64 in some ways, but some of the level design is significantly more polished. The music has less of this experimental rock/hip-hop sound that the previous game and more of something you'd hear out of a JRPG (thanks in no small part to the fact that one of the composers was a guy who worked on Chrono Trigger). Looks a little better in some ways, more environments to get around in, and lacks the tedious card-collecting that was in some parts of the first game. TSA isn't really as exciting as B64, and it lacks some of the especially clever puzzles that could be found in the first game (although they took that shit way too far in the final level, seriously fuck that).
Ultimately, I'd say give it a shot. It's not amazing, but neither is it's predecessor.
>>320964908
>recommending Jetters
fuck off. If you want more top-down action-adventure Bomberman, play Generation, not fucking Jetters
>>320966375
>I just feel like the IPs they use for these yarn games never really fit
The fuck are you on about? Kirby and Yoshi are the perfect Nintendo IPs for that aesthetic.
>>320958789
Since the Wii U VC has Wii games now, it's a fucking shame how they still don't have all the games they refused to localize to NA and probably won't ever, until the NX at least.
I'd love to finally be able to play MM again though.
Also the Wii's VC was pretty fucking good actually.
>>320966180
>Earthbound 2
What is this
>>320966792
Seriously, fuck that rainbow level. I'm still amazed I managed to get the true ending in that game back in the day.
POORLY CODED
One of my gaming regrets is never 100% clearing Bomberman 64 and Hero. Didnt really have internet access or knowledge for guides back then.
I remember in bomberman 64 i never got all golden cards from the Fish Boss.
>>320958789
Saturn Bomberman is waaaaaaaaaaay better.
>>320966792
>2000 + 15
>not liking Jetters
but yes, Generation is also an A-class game
>bomberman 64
>not Heroes
FUCKING
KILL
URESELVES
>>320967275
I remember Jetters being like a shittier Generation, but maybe my memory is failing me. I've been going through and playing all the old Bomberman games, so I'll probably give Jetters a second chance in the near future.
>>320964908
>>320966792
>>320967275
To this day, I cannot hear the name Jetters without thinking of that fucking titty-dolphin from the anime.
so what i'm reading here, is that this is now a bomberman thread?
Welp, rev 'em up boys
Best SP: Bomberman 64
Best MP: Saturn Bomberman
It took them until 2015 to get an N64 game on the Wii U VC.
No way Nintendo is competent enough to actually do something good for a change like put Mischief Makers on there.
>>320967512
what the fuck is this?
>>320965286
Okay, and how does it being sold second hand for $100 help Nintendo?
>>320967442
T-there is no game called Bomberman Heroes
>>320967608
I still feel like Generation has some of the best SP and MP in the series, Bomberman 64 has some incredible boss fights but the game is really unpolished and relies on the player using mechanics that are really finicky or unreliable.
>>320967798
FUCK YOU FAGGOT YOU KNOW I MEANT HERO AND NOT HERO"S" YOU STUPID QUEER
>>320958789
I recently have been replaying a ot of N64 and PS1 games. Why are they all so much fucking fun as compared to 90% of modern shit?
>>320967442
Hero got a VC release on the Wii quite a while ago, if I recall.
>>320967701
It's a Dolphin bomber, anon.
And strangely, it has tits.
>>320967701
It's what I'm jerking off to tonight.
Protip: the second attack IS on VC
Speaking of VC, EU just got Mario RPG announced, meanwhile in NA, we're still missing Wii VC like Xenoblade, GBA games like Zero Mission, and of course the entirety of Japans VC. Why is NoA so shit?
>>320967723
it doesn't, I was just backing up my claim of it being too rare
all in all though, the rarer games don't seem to make it to the VC as much as the more common ones, look at games like Mario Party 3 or Harvest Moon 64, they were both critically acclaimed and both pretty rare, yet neither saw the light of VC
>>320961679
What's wrong with them?
Are you using the new GFX plug-in?
Both of those emulate perfectly for me
>>320967608
>Best SP
Bomberman, the 1990 version.Only one I've beaten.
>>320967701
It's a titty dolphin. Obviously.
Bomberman Hero is really good, and one of the few early 3d platformers that hold up really well thanks to the bomb throwing thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03UeITHT9H8
shame about the boring ass helicopter levels though
>>320967608
this is actually pretty much correct, though super bomberman 5 gets really close in mp department, might actually be better if you don't want to have more than 5 players
saturn bomberman is also up there in sp if we talk about 2d games
>>320967847
generation isn't really good imo. it's battle mode is bread-n-butter shit that isn't really impressive to anyone who has seen a battle mode of any bomberman game released after '95, not bad but really not a high point of the series
single player is pretty much generic 3d platformer minus jumping, with boring layouts and imprecise enemy fighting mechanics
all of the n64 games are much better, especially bomberman 64 with it's much better level design and those damn cards giving it a lot of replay value
>>320969545
>all of the n64 games are much better
>Bomberman 64
>levels with ice physics where the camera is turned upside down, forced usage of mechanics there are unnecessarily precise for 100%, boss fights where you're inconveniently locked to 8 directions while trying to aim precisely
I enjoyed my time with 64, but it's really unpolished in a lot of ways and so many of the levels just don't have anything going on in them at all besides maybe one small gimmick - they generally just consist of you slowly walking to the exit. There are some really good levels that expand like crazy when you go searching for cards, like the first Green Gardens stage, but levels like that are extremely few and far between, and no other stage in the first five areas goes anywhere near as far as that one.
>TSA
literally fucking Generation but confined to a series of tight corridors and with enemy encounters that are functionally worthless
>Hero
Not even remotely comparable. The games don't control anything alike, don't look anything alike, don't sound anything alike. They share an IP, nothing more.
>3d platformer minus jumping
I bet you think the top-down Zelda games are 3D platformers without jumping, too.
So there's a lot of splash about which Bomberman is best so why don't we just split it
Best 3D Bomberman: 64
Best 2D Bomberman: Saturn
Yes? No?
>>320970834
>levels with ice physics where the camera is turned upside down
the big slide was an interesting change of pace
>forced usage of mechanics there are unnecessarily precise for 100%
you can normally clear the game without superhuman precision. actually requiring you to put your acquired skills to a good use if you want to see absolutely everything is a plus, though i admit some objectives were bad
>boss fights where you're inconveniently locked to 8 directions while trying to aim precisely
i concur, this is a good point actually
>I enjoyed my time with 64, but it's really unpolished in a lot of ways and so many of the levels just don't have anything going on in them at all besides maybe one small gimmick - they generally just consist of you slowly walking to the exit.
i think that the game in it's main course had a solid usage of it's mechanics, which were a very interesting transition from 2d to 3d. pretty much every new skill is required at some point and the game regularly makes you use them, even if there is a drop in complexity in certain stages.
>literally fucking Generation but confined to a series of tight corridors and with enemy encounters that are functionally worthless
you got generation and tsa mixed up - generation is watered down tsa with shitty encounters, which in turn was watered down bomberman 64
>Not even remotely comparable. The games don't control anything alike, don't look anything alike, don't sound anything alike. They share an IP, nothing more.
it still trumps generation in single player part (no mp though because for whatever reason that game didn't have it). if you think these two aren't comparable, then the 3d games need to be completely separated from 2d games too.
>I bet you think the top-down Zelda games are 3D platformers without jumping, too.
i know you grew up with generation, but it really isn't that good
