ITT post characters the game tried to make you hate, but you liked them anyway.
>Everyone is shitty to him
>Probably has a trouble at home
>Awakens to his power, cries for help
>You kick the shit out of him instead of helping him to overcome his shadow and let him join you because he's not part of your clique
Felt awful man.
>>320956001
>any jrpg final boss
>square enix has no idea how to make evil characters
Vaas. He was the only good guy in that island after all.
>>320956001
He was ugly so fuck him
You were supposed to feel sorry for him. His entire dungeon and bossfight were about him being lonely and empty inside, he only murdered that teacher and lied about commiting the others so that people would notice him.
>>320956163
Garlean empire are the bad guys! Listen to their evil music!
>Brought comfortable, safe and technologically advanced living to a world that had been warring states and feudal peons
>They want to bring the same thing to an island literally overrun with monsters and living gods
Even Yoshi P said if it wasn't a game, most people would be happy to join the Empire.
>>320956349
>murders the one character that literally no one cared about
>still treated as a criminal
>rape doujin mcgee
>likable in any way
he's a waste of game space
>>320956001
>Acted out to get attention
>Was too much of a bitch boy to admit what he did was wrong
>Tried to hit on best girl at the beginning of the school year
Nah m8, fuck him
>>320956192
Explain?
>>320956001
>not the based king himself
he did literally NOTHING wrong
>>320957484
>There will never be a Fool Reversed protaganist
>>320956192
i wish they had done more with vaas. it honestly would have saved the game
in that opening scene, i related more to vaas than i did to the dumbass rich teenagers
>>320957935
Literally did nothing wrong.
>>320957484
what about the murder
>>320957663
He wasn't Fool reversed, though. He was the reversed Strength.
>>320957484
I was disappointed by him, if anything.
>>320958173
>P4G bullshit Adachi social link
Sorry m80, P4AU overrides it and says he's Jester again, aka Fool Reversed. Hunger was fucking stupid.
>>320957484
>be a cop just to carry a gun
Why not be in the military instead? Better chance of getting to kill somebody (Well, maybe not in Japan) and better weapons, too.
I know more characters that the game tries to make you care about but you dont.
>>320957663
>>320958173
>>320958523
Reversed fool isnt jester, nor is hunger reversed strength. It are just different cards from different decks. One deck has jester as 0 while another has fool. Just like one deck has wands while another just has sticks. Reversed fool is called reversed fool. Jester is called jester, and reversed jester is reversed jester.
Having a NG+ option of playing as jester where you throw people in the TV so you can recruit them as their savior. And instead of working as a team you just call the shots on everything and tell the others to shut up.
>>320958523
Hunger made sense, it's from the same deck that Aegis got her "Aeon" arcana (Though, it's really called "The Lust", representing uncontrollable desire) and he really fit more a reversed strength. He was just being a bitch.
>>320959147
Probably too dangerous.
>>320959406
Intriguing, do you know the name of the deck?
>>320959147
>>be a cop just to carry a gun
i thought that was something he said just to sound cool to the kids
i figured adachi was sort of antisocial and weird, but never actually legit murderous until he got the bad touch from a god
>>320956349
And yet the IT managed to completely miss this and attacked the guy who had clearly just had a mental breakdown for crimes he was claiming to do so someone would care about him
>>320959920
He was sort of an outcast until he got moved to Inaba where he managed to get friends and feel part of a family and then the protag comes along and takes his surrogate family away from him and Izanami makes him discover the midnight channel.
>>320959543
Thoth, its the edgy special snowflake version of tarot
>>320956001
I wish you could play as him in a solo challenge, instead of having a entire team of dick sucking faggots you have to beat all bosses by yourself.
I have no idea how you make the jump from trying to score bitches to killing a teacher from another school for attention.
Maybe he should have tried getting on with Chie, probably she would not allow him to fuck her right away but he would still get to kiss and feel her body.
Going for yukiko when you know she is a frigid ice queen is a really dumbass move.
>>320961738
>this but with adachi
>mfw
>>320958157
They were bitches and whores and it was funny, there was nothing else to do in inaba
>>320958072
>game tricks you into playing it
>>320962071
b-but its so deep, if you side with a genocidal dictator as a white american he doesn't try to kill you!
>>320956415
Their ultimate solution to the primal problem was invasion, genocide and annexation. Much like XII, the residents and regular troops of the 'evil empire' were less aggressive towards the subject, and the malicious intent stems from the royal family.
>>320956001
>>320961381
Because they are a bunch of teens.
>>320962364
He said games, not memes.
>>320962059
OOPS LE EDGE XD
*tips fedora*
>>320962530
epic own dude nice
>>320962530
That's why I posted a video game character, not a meme.
>>320956001
I was interested in ole playing a depressed shut-in for a NG+ (AKA a true self insert) where I just went straight home after school and never talked to anybody.
I thought Mitsuo would have been an interesting S.Link and I always figured the animation used that illusion episode as a way of projecting Mitsuo's life problems onto Yu.
>"friends" move away without a word of goodbye
>he overhears another "friend" says acting nice around each other is tiring
>eventually no one wants to hang out anymore
At least they acknowledged the opposite spectrum of this happy friend adventure.
>>320962335
>Island full of fucking savages who are summoning entities that put the entire world at risk, as well as immortal dragons who want the human race extinct
Annexation was too fucking good for Eorzea, glassing the entire continent with Dalamud was the right call. The only thing Garlea did wrong was making deals with Ascians.
>>320962661
>>320962673
Get out, homos.
>>320962037
>NG+ with a deluded brotag that thinks all social links are hollow since he just picks the best response to everyone their questions to make them feel better about him.
>>320962298
>white
>>320962364
This one as well. I hate pathetic people, but I love people who put up an effort and she was doing what she could to improve herself.I wanted to fuck her.
>>320962627
>fedoraposting in response to a character quote
gud job
>>320962627
Please try to contain your autism.
I wonder if you could play as female protag in p4 ang give adachi some pussy, would he still go on to fuck things up?
>>320961721
>edgy
Sinister tarot is more edgy. Thoth just came from the leader of a sex cult and tries to set itself up as a magical system, it even has its own book about hot chicks that look 12 years old.
>>320956001
God damn
Adachi's speech was so on point. The main cast are spoiled assholes.
>>320963942
Yeah thoth is based around astrology, kabalah, goetia, and a bunch of other shit. It was just a way to learn about shit, not meant to be a special snowflake thing. He changed strength to lust because what strength was supposed to represent was strength excited which fits lust, justice was changed to adjustment since he wanted to represent it as a force, and then judgement was changed to aeon because he claimed that the age of horus was coming and the element of judgement was fire.
>>320956001
I think that it's kinda funny how different Mitsuo and Adachi are compared to Yu. They really feel like the other end of the spectrum, like polar opposites. While Yu is social, outgoing, and generally well-liked by his peers, Mitsuo is lonely, depressed, and considered creepy by other people.
And then you have Adachi, who's also lonely, but also nihilistic, apathetic, and if we consider the Golden anime canon, pretty jealous of Yu.
Damn, Yu really feels like the perfect guy that makes them feel like shit.
>>320961381
if your way to ask for help is to kill people the only help you deserve is getting locked in a place where you can't damage others
>>320965507
that was the whole point. Of course does the IT think that the humans want to be friends and happy and shit. Because they in their most formative time (puberty) had a host of great friends whom they fully confided in (although it was more forced with the shadows but still). Yu and co doesnt know how bad it can get
>>320965507
>mfw P3 MC and party think the P4 party are a bunch of fucking happy go lucky faggots in PQ
>>320962298
You are completely wrong.
>>320963810
whos dat
>>320956001
>murderer
>killed a guy because he wanted to feel cool
>let him join your team
Did your mother dropped you a few too many times when your were a baby?
>>320965837
What bothers me is that the game never really goes in-depth with the exposition of this contrast. The only time in which it does is arguably during Adachi's dungeon. I still think that P3 was better in this particular area; you had anti-social, yet realistic pieces of shit like Junpei, and the game always portrayed them in an objective manner.
Every basement dweller/socially malformed brooding faggot (yes, you.) can identify with this guy, so basically everyone who buys this series.
But the point of P4 is defeating your shadows, the grim parts of yourself, and that means yours too.
>>320966454
He possesses a power that could be used to aid the world, he only did that shit because his life was a mess, he just needed help.
Did you think Ken should have been cast out in 3?
>>320965902
does Metatron even show up in persona?
>>320962738
>the only violent beastmen are tempered by their primals, which are essentially volatile aether given form by ideals, not actual elder gods
>only instance of 'civilised' eorzean primal usage was to destroy a world-ending dragon that the garleans released from it's allagan prison, which had 'DO NOT RELEASE, EVER' plastered all over it
>only dragon that wants to destroy everything is a buttmad loner who had sex with his sister
>>320966947
Yes, but he doesn't have a personality of his own really, as with all personas he's just a facet of his users power.
>>320966636
This is true, though. Adachi and Mitsuo never tried to improve their lives.
Just look at Yosuke, the game implies that people dislike him and that he has no friends many times, yet he still becomes the best version of himself.
>>320966610
p4 pretty much fumbles every somewhat deeper thought they might have put in. They decided to go happy go lucky over a good story.
They could also have made a story about how every archetype (tomboy, prude princess, hardcore biker) are actually very sick archetype you dont want in real life and should feel bad about for liking in animu. But they didnt, hell they could have made a tsundere character and make her dungeon about her breaking down and actually just being an insecure, sad mess inside hidden behind a mask of tsundere fun.
But they didnt, which is sad
>>320967068
>Entire Allag civilization was running on primal and dragon power
>The majority of beastmen are fanatical in worship to their primal before tempering, it's only a splinter faction of each tribe who shun the primals
>Thousands of dragons knocking on Ishgard's door every day for hundreds of years is not "just one"
Also there's an entire state made up of fucking pirates and thieves, Eorzea is an absolute shithole.
>>320967312
>a deconstruction of anime archetypes
That's a good idea right there; although, Devil Survivor 2 kinda does the whole tsundere thing with Airi.
>>320966292
Female version of p4 protag.
>>320956001
He was a massive piece of shit.
Typical creep that hates the world since he's unable to see why he's the reason things are as they are to him. To the end he couldn't see himself in his shadow - he didn't want to and this is exactly his life. Lie to yourself and to everyone else. Seriously, too bad we couldn't kill him, I really wanted to.
I'm not surprised there's someone on /v/ that can appreciate him, since nowadays it seems to be all about outcasts and dumbfucks.
>>320967853
well the game did give a setup for it. But instead of working it out it was like "holy shit yukiko and I were in a poisonous relationship all this time but instead of using it to look into how archetypes taken to a realistic setting is a bad idea or how many real life relationships are actually mutually abusive we just made up and are now even better friends :)"
My dream solution however would be that you had a NG+ mode were yu remembers his last trip. So he is stuck in some kind of groundhog day if he travels to inaba. Then the first time you see that he is mildly amused at how he already knows the answer and just plays along. But then with NG++ he is jaded because he knows he is just saying whatever works out best for the Slinks and ends up agreeing with adachi's opinion.
>>320967312
>implying fujos would buy the spinoffs if the story made them question themselves
there's a reason they are playing Persona 4 and its not for the deep storyline
>>320968345
>tfw Adachi's route is shit
>tfw I'll never kill bitches and whores with him
>>320967459
>Allags find a way to bind dangerous aether and draw resources from it, Garleans make cheap copies and undo their work
>Beastmen worship primals as gods, who recruit through influence
>Doesn't apply to the city state residents
>Small beastmen factions are supported by adventurers
>Thousands of fledgling dragons under the power of the incest dragon
Limsa was a pirate shithole, until Merlwyb turned it into an organised pirate stronghold.
>>320968797
Why are you talking about fujos?
>>320968797
It includes gay romance with yosuke and Femtag that can engage into lesbian sex.
The homo relationships are all sick, dirty and abusive but they'll love them all the same
>>320967068
>the only violent beastmen are tempered by their primals, which are essentially volatile aether given form by ideals
And it seems like their ideals are warmongering gods slaughtering everything except for the Sylphs and Kobolds to a lesser extend.
>only instance of 'civilised' eorzean primal usage was to destroy a world-ending dragon that the garleans released from it's allagan prison
Said dragon being continuously summoned back also being an instance of 'civilized' eorzean primal summoning.
>only dragon that wants to destroy everything is a buttmad loner who had sex with his sister
I don't see anything wrong with that since Uldah has a pedo nigger at the top of its army, Gridania a dendrophiliac for leader and Limsa a traitorous bitch who fucks up so hard that even the scions are calling her out on it.
>>320969556
Don't forget:
>Scions make a private army
>They immediately join the empire
>>320969980
>They immediately join the empire
No they don't, they end up sucking Syndicate's dick
>>320969556
>warmongering gods
And the Garlean solution is mass genocide through releasing an ancient, world-ending dragon.
>said dragon being summoned back
The primal of 'civilised' eorzea is Phoenix.
>nothing wrong
Nidhogg is literally on his own. None of the other elder dragons want war, they just stopped trusting the other intelligent races. The Ishgardians were taught to hate anything draconian because 'no our fault lol'.
Did nothing wrong
>>320971487
Being ugly is wrong.
why are people that play Japanese games so fucking autistic
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>>320971829
Dahlia a cute! CUTE!
>>320966893yesbut he didn't really kill anyone
