How do I get good with him?
You stop playing a children's game with a competitive mindset. All Smash games are meant to be something you partake in during a party or when your kid wants to do something with you that isn't as mind numbing as going to the park.
Play an actual fighting game, Smash players.
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>>320912621
lol why do you care so much
>>320912621
nice meme
>>320912621
jesus, you sound like a faggot.
and what if he wants to have fun playing this character casually at parties, but he isn't good with it? what then, oh flaming faglord?
>>320912621
well golly okay anon
Spam barrels.
Then spam frisbees, but only if they are busy with barrels.
Never get in melee range.
Overall be a total obnoxious faggot.
1) don't listen to FGC drones. They're just mad that smash had the second largest EVO attendance and that it will soon eclipse the other games.
2) not sure who still plays DH at a high level, but find some people who do. Watch their videos or even try to contact them.
I would say learning set ups with the cans is important. Don't really know that much about the character. Still, he's a super zoner, and to deal with good players you'll have to really get good at understanding space and reading your opponent.
>>320912621
What's a good fighting game for beginners then.
>>320912432
by picking shiek instead
>>320912927
>not ZSS
>>320912878
this, you have to absolutely master the can to be good as DH
i dont know if dunnobro still uses him but if you watch his matches im sure you can pick up a lot
>>320912719
Then he loses against his backwards cap wearing, kegger standing alpha of a roommate and proceeds to get put in his God damn place. The kiddy table during Christmas Eve dinner, with the other people who play Wii U games.
>>320912927
>not bayonetta
Not OP, but I wanna improve my main as wellIt's Dedede
Does anyone remember the name of that forum where everyone is really fucking elitist? Smashbrosboards or something?
>>320913103
lel
>>320913110
I didn't know she already came out.
>>320912914
Ultra Street Fighter IV is super easy to get into. The skill ceiling is pretty high if you practice FADC combos.
Guilty Gear Xrd is also good.
Mortal Kombat X is pretty meh but it's fucking MK. Everyone loves it.
>>320912621
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>>320913170
Smashboards? I'm a dedede main too. Trying to get good with him. Any tips?
>>320913170
>maining heavyweight trash
It's like you want to lose.
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>>320913103
Found the real child
>>320913170
Smashboards
I'd recommend against going there, it's impossible to find good info buried under all the bad info and general faggotry
>>320912878
>but find some people who do. Watch their videos or even try to contact the
No, never do that, copying others playstyle will only hurt you on the long run.
That's the reason many consider comp cancer, it lacks variety, everyone plays the same way, there's no fun in playing like you were reading a flowchart.
But, you were asking how to play, so, I guess you are stupid and you need to be told how to play. So, do that, copy other people.
>>320913170
here's my advice, play online, a LOT. I got good with DDD after like 300 games, and it's the same for most characters.
>>320913267
>dedede
>trash
https://youtu.be/JpY2ezkQRDg
If Dedede is trash how is this guy wrecking top tiers with him?
What's your nintendo network id? I wanna play with you and help you improve, give you tips etc. Duck hunt is fun and has a lot of tricks.
>>320913252
I main him and my advice would be to mix up your plays as much as possible. Find out a bunch of short little combos and set ups and throw them out randomly. DDD is the hooked on phonics of readable characters, so you really wanna make sure you change your language halfway through a sentence.
>>320913267
He's really unorthodox and I find him hilariously fun
not a single "professional" smash player could beat anyone in SF or KoF, etc
>>320912856
Get gud nigger
>>320913894
Not single "professional" SF or KoF player could beat anyone in smash
>>320913787
I likr your picture. Saved. Also thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.
>>320913894
well yeah, the games are completely different
>>320913252
Sticking gordos onto edges so the other player can't recover is the fucking funniest shit
Don't use jet hammer, it has less damage and launching power than forward smash. Use it only when you want to BTFO the other player, sometimes when the other player sees you charging it they'll freak out.
Also, his down tilt is surpsingly solid.
>>320913894
>not a single "professional" basketball player could beat anyone in Swimming or Diving, etc
Great hypothosis Sherlock. Got any other bright statements?
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>>320913170
Is this the dedede board????
>>320913170
Pro Triple D main here.
Even though it's almost literal suicide to go heads on trying to be aggressive chasing people, this doesn't mean you should just sit and camp up waiting for the opponent to screw up. You need to have a balance and make good judgement between when to attack and when to fall back.
DDD is based around punishing even the slightest room of opportunity you make your rival give you. Don't spam gordos mindlessly because they are easier to get thrown back than most people think, but in that same way. Always have it in the back of your mind that your gordo may be thrown back, so be ready to hit it back once again or pressing A precisely to grab it back.
Remember the 3 ways of throwing gordos and use them to mix things up. The grab game of DDD is very good as well because most of the times it deals nice damage.
But overall with DDD you need precision to connect the killing moves, not take unnecessary risk, and you have always be one step ahead your rival to be ready to punish.
Be specially careful throwing around the strong moves against characters with counters. Always be on the edge against agile characters and those with quick projectiles that can reflect your gordos easily, like Pikachu, Mario, Cloud.
Your most advantageous position is having the enemy outside the stage. Having considerable damage while trying to get back on stage while DDD awaits you and there's a slowly moving gordo near ledge makes people nervous
>>320914390
Duh. /v/ is perfect
>>320914181
>Don't use jethammer
It's hella underrated. You can dish it out way faster than a side smash, usable in the air, and it's an instant shield break if you read right and have it at full power.
>>320914318
>I'm the idiot that compares real life sports to video games
Don't do that. Pressing buttons can never be compared to moving your whole body, and anyone that is good at button pressing should be good at any kind of button pressing.
>>320914647
It's seriously one of my favorite moves, but I notice on most heavy characters the jet hammer doesn't break shields in one hit. It's usually more worthwhile to use a smash. But fuck if it isn't the most satisfying attack to land
how do I not get my fucking ass kicked as Charizard against Ness
>>320913348
I mean, it's really beneficial to see how someone successfully uses a character. That's how the metagame works. Multiple people learning from each other and adding their own optimizations to the character.
>>320914738
I find it's best to use while edge guarding. It pretty much sets you up for a 1 in 3 chance of a free hard hit and can hit almost anyone hanging on the edge long enough for immunity to run out.
>>320913348
I mean, it's really beneficial to see how someone successfully uses a character. That's how the metagame works. Multiple people learning from each other and adding their own optimizations to the character. I
>>320913170
Stay level headed is the best piece of advice I an give. The moment you go on tilt or go super aggro is when you lose. Dedede needs to play patiently and bait out the opponent.
>>320914647
jet hammer is worse than forward smash because it needs a decent charge to be stronger. The one fun thing is that it hits under the ledge so you can use it if the enemy grabs ledge and doesn't have invincability.
>>320912621
Super Smash Brothers Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube is the only fighting game I need
>>320914932
I know, everyone plays the same, that's what I said. Which is sad, because if the comp community wasn't so full of (autism) people that play that way, it would be fun to watch, but no, it appears that everyone uses the same flow chart.
Same thing that happens with electrical engineers, they can do so many things and they choose to make their own drones...
>>320914462
Is it worth it to try and focus on air attacks (back air, neutral air -> down tilt) or should I just keep using ground hits like up and side tilt?
I heard back air works well if you grab a ledge when someone is already on it
>>320915103
How do you get all that debug information to show up?
>>320915398
20XX Hack Pack
>>320912621
Boy, look at all these (You)'s
You sure showed us, huh.
>>320913252
His nair is seriously the best shit. If you fast fall with it you can combo into another attack. Grab, utilt, ftilt, dtilt, etc.
Lucas main here, what should I do to kill when their at higher percents. I always feeln scared to use a smash like fsmash and dsmash but feel like but feel like I'm going to get punished so I just try to grab and do a bthrow and uthrow. Help?
>>320915737
I'm not much of a Lucas player, but I've had lots of success with upsmash when dealing with players on edges
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>>320915075
Jet hammer is really great for applying pressure and baiting because of how intimidating it looks though, especially at full power. I trick a lot of people into rolling into it or wasting a counter because they think I'm going to swing it immediately.
>>320915394
Well it depends on the situation, mostly. Personally I use back air more as a killing move or when I have a guaranteed hit and I rarely use forward air at all. I think ground tilts are generally safer to use in combination with short hops into neutral or up air. Some characters are better kept in the air than others.
>>320915556
I didn't know there was anything like that for Melee. I've been thinking of doing some Melee with a friend but didn't want to unlock all of the characters and stages again. Is this good for that, or just training?
>constant sm4sh threads still
>>320916162
why is cloud so sad?
>>320912432
Duck Hunt is less about hitting your opponent with lots of projectiles (although that always helps) and more about forcing your opponent to make mistakes when dodging your projectiles. They airdodge the can, you hit them with an up air. Check out this video Falln made breaking down a typical Duck Hunt match. I personally found it to be really eye-opening. Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg4zhHFJfWY
Also, you might know this already if you've been playing DH for a while, but you can expect to get hit by your own can. A lot. Don't let yourself get discouraged when it happens. You'll get better at controlling it over time, but it's a slow process.
>>320916125
Yeah it automatically unlocks every stage and character
>>320916356
Sweet. Dolphin here I come. Ty anon.
>>320912432
You fight with the mentality of a little pussy ass bitch
Sakurai: "I believe these are record breaking numbers for a competitive action game."
Even Sakurai has finally admitted that the game can be competitive.
>>320913434
Dedede is stronger online than in person, though. Gordos are a lot more of a threat and you can throw out more fsmashes and dash attacks with less chance getting punished optimally. When you lower the risk, but the reward stays the same, you get the impression D3 is a better character than he is.
>>320913894
Except there's a smash pro with on the CPT Standings
:^)
>>320912432
play a different character.
Try Villager or Megaman if you want a zoner.
>>320919143
Shulk is not hard to play at allWinning with Shulk aganist an a-tier is though
>>320919737
MALLC is some serious shit, man.
>>320913170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xav-oWMbrV0
ZeRo's analysis videos are always good to learn about the basics of a character. He's recently been contacting notable players for tips to use in his videos.
Watch games of DDD players and see what they do.
>>320919143
>all good characters are easy to play hard to beat
>but if we put shiek up there people wont say that
lol epic
>>320919939
Sm4sh is ez, Melee takes skill.
>>320919143
Is Ryu actually good in Smash or is it a joke?
>>320920274
he's really good
>>320920274
He's a fighting game character in a party game
>>320920274
top 5 extremely likely, could potentially see top 3
he's pretty insane
seeing characters like cloud/rosaluma/ryu/bayonetta/corrin with all these awesome options and mechanics makes me hopeful they'll parse through all the veterans and give some of the lesser ones some under-the-hood work or a complete revamp
>>320912432
>mained Captain Falcon since Melee
>getting ready to move
>decide to pick up Smash Bros for 3DS while I'm without internet
>practice a lot against level 9s, think I'm progressing and am decent
>finally have internet hooked up
>FG 1v1
>get my fucking salad tossed EVERY FUCKING MATCH
I want to die
>>320919143
I'd honestly agree with a lot of these, but Duck Hunt is not easy to play at all. You've got manage a lot of shit at once to actually be a good player.
>>320912621
>if you tell smash4 players to play a real fighting game you're a tryhard
>if you tell smash4 players to play melee since it's a deeper game people tell you to play a real fighting game
You will never win, faggot. It's time to give up on smash retards.
>>320912621
So, you clearly get your elements handed to you online while playing this game. Gg newfag. Enjoy yet ANOTHER CoD that fails with shity frame rates
OP- watch youtube guides guides spend time playing a level 50 amiibo. You will learn by playing a hard AI. Then, really you just need to general knowledge of the most popular characters and a lot of time online.
Goodluck m8
