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Will the new Star Wars lead to a rise in space opera video games?
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Will the new Star Wars lead to a rise in space opera video games?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EC4WHPxnrk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjSXcdvd-ME

It's already begun.
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>>320912404
I think sci-fi RPGs as a whole is making a comeback after the deluge of fantasy shit we've had to endure.
>ME:A
>DE:MD
>Cyberpunk 2077
The future looks neon bright.
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>>320912675
I about lost all hype for Cyber Punk when CPDR said its going to be "far, far larger" than The Witcher 3.
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>>320912675
Crackdown 3
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>>320912404
Hopefully another KOTOR-esque game comes out
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>>320913671
Or they can just finish 1313 as an RPG
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>>320913789
Where are the rumors coming from I keep hearing on /v/ about Visceral making an RPG.
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>>320913979
wasn't Visceral absorbed into the Bioware studios after Dead Space 3 flopped?
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>>320913979
with Jade Raymond on the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they try an Assassin's creed-like game in the vein of shadow of mordor. i hope not though.
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I still don't know what makes something a 'space opera'. Is it just drama in space? Did Star Wars invent it?
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>>320914085
Visceral recently made Battlefield Hardline Still Visceral Games. I guess Star Wars will be their last chance.
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>>320914513
TR8-OR
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>>320914191
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera
http://www.moongadget.com/origins/doc.html
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inb4 the han solo meme
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I for one look forward to copious amounts of AAA SJW pandering in space, followed by the merry musical tinkling of game studios crashing and burning.

THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IN SPACE GAMES:
-Space
-Space ships
-Energy weapons
-FTL travel
-Maybe aliens and/or robots

THINGS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE IN SPACE GAMES
-Queers
-Miscegenation
-'Girl power'
-Evil white men
-Trannies
-Politically correct, 'black and white' moral choices
-NPC's that are there to make sure you don't have true agency
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Anyone else really pleasantly surprised about the movie? I actually really liked it, nothing really stuck out as bad to me unlike the prequels. Really had the classic star wars feel too aside from being pretty much a remake of ANH
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>>320916980
I enjoyed it but by the time Han dies it wasn't even a shock because it was so obvious that the entire film was just a giant remake. I just hope the next two don't remake Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
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>>320917224
Yeah I feel like 8 will be about Kylo Ren getting a shit load of training so he doesn't seem like a pushover, and LaCroix getting a bigger role
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>>320916980
It was better than I expected but I also think it's getting its cocked sucked a little too hard at the moment.

Let's all convene after this new trilogy is complete and has been done for around 5 years.
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>>320916980
I find myself consistently rooting for the bad guys in these movies.

And I don't know why.
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>>320918187
They have style and the rebels and jedi come off as hippies to me
sith are shit too, but the Empire is just too damn cool
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>tfw phasma does nothing
JJ YOU HACK FUCK
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>>320915637
>THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IN SPACE GAMES:
>-Energy weapons
YES. I am disappointed with all the boring firearms that are not any more powerful or practical than real world guns. Give me laser beams or give me death (by laser beams.)
-FTL travel
Dunno about that. It's a fine element of course but a single solar system is a very big place and you could totally limit a good game to one system. Hell, you could make a good space game set solely in the asteroid belt.
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>mfw finally got Dark Forces 2 to run
It's times like this I wish I could figure out how to set up one of those virtual machine things, then maybe I could run it at a decent resolution.
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>>320912508
came here to post that it reinvigorated my HYPE for star citizen

god i hope it doesn't tank. the complexity and teamwork required in those multicrew shielding/weapons/mining/repair systems pleases my autism.
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>>320920898
>I wish I could figure out how to set up one of those virtual machine things
>install VM software
>install OS on VM
Are you foolish? I managed to get the game running well on native (32-bit) Windows. If you get black screens alt-tab out and back in.
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Episode VII was soooo shit.

Why are people praising it so much?
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320912404
no.
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>>320915637

>>>/pol/
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>>320912745
This is worrying from a story/world building perspective, but if they can nail the gameplay it may be ok? Seeing as how this is their first fps though, I doubt it. They're smart people though, I'm sure they'll figure something out, and that may have just been a dumb pr quip.
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320922151

Why are you trying so hard to be contrarian?
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>>320922628
Not him but the movie really wasn't anything special.
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>>320921923
>Are you foolish?
I can't say I've ever heard anyone on /v/ put it quite like that.

I remember trying to set it up so I could run a few older games but not really understanding how to get everything working.

...I might be thinking of the time I tried to set up DOSbox. I might not have actually tried to set up a virtual machine at all yet.
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320922628
Fffuck 4chan!! It ate my post! Goddammit, that pisses me off so much...

Look dude, I'm not trying to be contrarian, I'm not gonna rewrite what I wrote, but in short, the film rehashing IV felt like an insult to my intelligence, not a call back.

It showed me the film was made to sell, not made to tell a story. I honestly wish the film had had more focus on the new characters and their development than the plot.

Here's what I woulda done given the same premise and cast:

http://pastebin.com/2gepmwMU
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>tfw Mass Effect could have been a franchise to rival Star Wars but they blew it with that fucking ending
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>>320924024
Even if they hadn't given it a shitty ending, it was doomed from the moment EA got its hands on it.
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>>320914513
>not the gif
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320924024
>>320924024

If you're going to make a fucking Space Opera trilogy, you need someone empowered sitting around to tell other powers that be, to shut the fuck up, and get out.

They hacked Mass Effect's crew to fucking smithereens by the end of MA3
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>>320922447
Uh-oh, looks like the faggot hivemind just awakened.

Sorry if you got triggered, you fucking queer.
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>>320912404
If Star Wars was all I had access to as a child in terms of sci-fi I probably would become one of those crazy fanboys, but thankfully I had access to anime from very early on in my youth years that my mental balance is very stable.
Seriously, if you have watched Akira, you'd realize just how sophisticated anime is and it blows away anything Star Wars would have to offer.
A lot of people mention Ghost In The Shell, which has just enough of sexuality in the mix to draw in the western audience I suppose but I must say that Ghost In The Shell is not even in my top 10 anime, not even close, that's just how deep the world of anime is.
Some anime is so disturbingly mature like Fractale that I wish it would challenge the system and submit it as a Drama category in the Oscars just to bitchslap the snotty Academy.
It's not just the level of maturity and sophistication anime has, it's also quite original, entertaining, and visually fantastic. I would regard anime as the highest form of cinema art-form.
But hey, me preaching about anime won't do you any good, you gotta go out and see it for yourself just how much you are missing.
The recent one I would recommend to check out is Sword Art Online which is light and easy to get into anime for the first time yet appreciate it as much, but if you want the heavy stuff right off the line check out Guilty Crown in which the plot is so complex and twisted that you'll need extra oxygen pumped into your brain in order to comprehend everything, and if you want amazing visuals and a gripping drama that also has awesome mecha battles Aldnoah.Zero is the shit.
Seriously, if you know anime like I do, Star Wars looks like it's something for little kids.
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>>320922628
The prequels were much better written, they had actual characters and story, not a bunch of memes and one-liners that lack any emotion or coherence. Luke is a cliched everyboy "hero" that goes through an absurdly rapid transformation between the fifth and the sixth episodes. Anakin's emotional instability and his exposure as a psychopath are gripping; and his doomed relationship with Padme is touching. In the "original trilogy" Han, Leia, Darth Vader and Obi Wan are complete meme characters, nothing about them is remotely believable or human. And why doesn't anyone care about deaths in those movies? Leia's planet destruction, Luke's stepparents' death, all of the blown up rebels--the list could go on--all the deaths are forgotten moments later.
As for direction, the movies from the "original trilogy" were mostly incoherent, badly edited and full of logical problems. The prequel trilogy is a work of a "vulgar auteur".
I feel neutral about the series overall, and honestly don't care about trolling or contrarianism. Here are my sincere rankings:
1. "Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones"
2. "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace"
3. "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith"
4. "Star Wars"
5. "The Empire Strikes Back"
6. "Return of the Jedi"
7.
8. "The Force Awakens"
Episode 7 isn't even a Star Wars movies. It is a Marvel flick masquerading as one.
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>>320926789
This is such stupid pasta because it cites SAO as good.

That said, you are correct, most sci-fi anime shits all over Star Wars, plain and simple, SW has never been that great. Only Episode V, and the EU are good.

I'm surprised people are praising the shitfest that is TFA, you'd think that after experiencing Game of Thrones, their standard for storytelling would have gone up.
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>>320915090

It'd be pretty fuckin rad if that was his designation.
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>>320927071

where the fuck did I put my b8 images goddamnit
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>>320915637

kill yourself
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>>320912404
Star Wars is dead. This film killed the franchise forever. For all the flaws the prequels had, at least they had a soul. This movie was nothing but a sterile, manufactured product designed to make as much money as possible. There was no love put into this movie whatsoever. It simply exists to exist, not to invoke any sense of imagination or wonder. And yet people on this very board will still eat it up because of a brand name. You fucking make me sick.
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>>320927071
This is correct, except the order of the films is wrong.

Prequels had a good story, just shit execution.

The Clone Wars cartoon proves this.

Imo, its:

V>III>VI>I>IV>II>VII
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>>320916980
I thought the lightsaber battles were the best we've seen thus far. They were so gritty and it looked like there was so much power behind each swing. None of those fruity flips and cartwheels into choreographic attacks.


I just don't know why Ren doesn't spam the shit out of his force powers, I mean, it's obvious that shit worked with throwing bitches into trees and shit.
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>>320921070
It's everything I wanted Mass Effect to be.
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dont mind me, just playing the best space game out at the moment

"it sucks because its too hard" -4chan child 2015

new star wars was shit

we need more truly dark sci-fi, not more disney shit
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>>320927702

>playing sleeping simulator 2015
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>>320927702


It's not hard, it's just boring.
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>>320927702
That's not X3TC. With Star Citizen tailing close behind.
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>>320927831
thanks for the bait, I chuckled sensibly
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>>320927702
Jesus christ, star wars is not fucking sci-fi. It's science fantasy.
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>>320927972
It's boring, tough.
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>>320927397
>Episode I being better than ANYTHING
Anon please
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>>320928000
I'd say Space Fantasy desu senpai
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>>320928271
>Space Fantasy
>tfw no Fifth Head of Cerberus or Hyperion games
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20 Republic credits says Phasma joins the good guys and hooks up with Finn.
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>>320928375
She's just going to be another Boba Fett. Her and Kylo Ren will share the same partnership/relationship Fett and Vader did, or business and cold mutual respect.
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>>320927702
>spreadsheet simulator
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>>320928475
>cold mutual respect
Yeah, in between raging out on his computer screens.
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>>320927702
>19,000 subs and dropping

But Eve is boring and has no direction from CCP for years. Some of their talent have already jumped ship because of the inevitable crash.

If EVE doesn't get it's shit together within 3 years it will die.
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>>320927702
>It's legal to multibox as long as you bought two copies and paying 2 subs.

Literally pay2win.
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>>320927347
Great comeback, there. Can you give me a reason why I should?
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>>320928949

Because you're a faggot.
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>>320920756
Kinetic weapons can be just as good if people would start getting creative with them. Imagine handheld Gauss weapons. Rail/coilguns with the versatility of a modern assault rifle, but with loads more power behind it. I think Mass Effect did this right, since all the guns in it are technically kinetic, but also powered by space magic.

Totally agree with the FTL part, though. There are tons of cool locations in our solar system alone that would be great in games.
>deep sea exploration in the oceans of titan, finding research stations, precious resources, and cosmic alien horrors that lie in the trenches

The remake of Defender on Gamecube was actually really good about this, while also being a good Rogue Squadron type game.
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>>320929242
Well, I expect I'll be in the next Mass Effect game then.
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320929851

What's the matter, do gay people trigger you? Maybe you should go back to tumblr so you can have a safe space from things that trigger you.
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>>320929970
But you said he was the faggot.
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>>320929427
Kinetic/mass driver weapons are problematic in zero-G though, and have unfortunate ammo requirements. Energy weapons are a far more elegant solution.
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>>320929970
Got no issues with gays, but I have real issues with SJW agendas being rammed into entertainment for the purpose of social programming.

If faggots, trannies, feminists and niggers want vidya games that speak to their experience, let them make their own instead of using social manipulation to shoehorn their various mental illnesses into my chosen recreational medium.
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>>320930052
(I suspect that guy you're replying to may be 'confused' if you know what I mean)
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Isn't EA the only publisher allowed to touch Star Wars? If so, TOP KEK we in for some shitters.
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>>320930161
I thought kinetic weapons become way better in zero-G? What with losing bugger all energy to friction so they keep going at top speed until they hit something and all.
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>Star Wars finally happened
>No Videos Games in the sight at all
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Rey was sent away as a child because
1. Luke saw the dark side in her and that she was going to become too powerful
2. Kylo Rens actions led Luke to want Jedi to fade away, and Ren wanted to take her under his wing, so Luke sent her to some random ass planet to prevent her discovering the force
In either case, Luke will refuse to train her, Kylo Ren will discover their relation and history and try to pull her more, and she'll learn more about the new order via ex-trooper Finn leading to arguments. All of which will contribute to her falling to the dark side.

Snoke will kill convince her to kill Luke; Kylo Ren empathizes with Finn, rebels against them and turns to the light side.

Poetry.
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I'd love a massive Star Trek game. Only certain parts of the Delta Quadrant have been explored, the same with the Gamma Quadrant.

I'd love to have a game where you're a captain of a Galaxy Class Starship doing a deep space exploration mission. Maybe with a mix of free and pay for DLC, the pay for ones involving an entirely new section of a quadrant.


Fuck, I'd be content with a game focussing on the journey of the USS Equinox. That despair and constant defeats until you eventually genocide that species from the 5th dimension.

No Q though, I feel like that would be forced fan service.
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>>320930907
Newton's third law is a bitch my friend.
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>>320931221
Star Trek Online is breddy gud mane.
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>>320929427
>>320929427

I thought Mass Effect's explanation for weaponry, FTL flight, Supermassive vessels etc was incredibly adequate.

Element Zero, gravity dialing compound. (Higs Boson particle in quantifiable form?)
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>>320931689
Isn't it pay to have fun tho?
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Is there a gif of BB-8's thumbs up yet?
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>>320912508
I am hype
that makes me concerned
please dont let me down Christ Roberts
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>>320930446
>it's only okay to talk about the straight white man experience

White men aren't the only people living in this planet, you retard.
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>>320927556
fuck that looks good mayng
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>>320927071
>Anakin's emotional instability and his exposure as a psychopath are gripping
You should read books. I suggest you start with Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment.
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>>320912404

They should release a Republic Commando sequel, seriously. Stormtroopers are one of the enduring concepts of Star Wars and everybody wants to be one.

Set it in TFA and put in a mace. They'll be raking in mad money from that.
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>>320932051
Nah, if you're looking for a fun timesink it's pretty good. I played it for about a year then went lifetime.
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>>320932220
So you're all for diversity, understanding and inclusivity... As long as everyone else agrees with you and adheres to your cultural doctrine. Got it.

Just be aware that there is no bottom to the special snowflake pit. Giving SJW's any consideration is pointless as they are literally unsatisfiable. Just ask Joss Whedon.

You can't shit all over 'straight white men' while asking them to bend over backwards to meet whatever febrile hallucination of gender dysphoria is trending on twumbler this week.
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Localized LOGH games when?
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>>320927358
>The prequels had a soul
Nope. At least TFA had being a halfway competent film going for it.
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>>320933814
never
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Space Opera games were dead/on the decline?
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>>320912404
No, just shitty licensed games.
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>>320915637
>Miscegenation

Go to bed, gramps
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>>320927358
>For all the flaws the prequels had, at least they had a soul.
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>>320934581
>>320938219
Not him but, while the prequels are shit, at least they tried to make them different and new.

Episode 7 is just A new hope for ADHD millenials.
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>>320938637
You know that The Phantom Menace did pretty much the same thing, right? I'll admit that they did a better job of hiding it but it was a much worse movie.
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>>320931129
>Rey and Kylo Ren pull a face-heel double turn at the end of episode 8
I would be absolutely okay with this.
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>>320939290
Prequels correspond to their OT in pure pottery

IV and I: middle of the road
V and II: Highest of highs and lowest of lows
VI and III: Worst of the best and best of the worst
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>>320927071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi5jjXTPtyY&ab_channel=qu0tes
>writing
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320915637
>it's a space game with aliens and shit
>no gays or brown ppl pls, they frighten me
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320926575
how ironic
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>>320940473
He had no problem with shitskins.
And gay people tend to be very, very heavyhandedly put in by some companies.
And I'm gay. But seriously; when your character only exists to be a fucking faggot (I REMEMBER LOPEZ THE CRYBABY FUCK) don't bother putting him in
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>>320914513
It's treason, then.
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320912404
It's not even led to a rise in the number of Star Wars games anon, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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>>320915446
Isn't that very expensive for a comic in 1939?
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>>320941205
It wasn't a comic book. A magazine collection of stories, about 4x as many pages as a comic.
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>>320941205
That's a magazine dude. Ya know with words and stuff.
That said I've always wanted just one really good sci go game with the 1930s and 40s style of ships looking like art deco rockets mixed with locomotives, pilots in bomber jackets, aliens being really fucking weird and sword fights with galactic tyrants to rescue half naked women.
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>>320943358
Well, fuck you, have more bald space marines in power armor.
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320915637
Fuck off Gamergate you have your own imageboard
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does anyone have the video of that beta TOR cutscene with the jedi knight getting injected
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>>320912404
So why did the clone/stormtrooper helmets went from greek helmet lookalike, then to le mad angry face, then finally into looking like a duck's face?
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>>320934867
When was the last time you played a good one?
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>>320927071
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>>320922450
fps rpgs are easier to do justice than melee rpgs. they have decade of good slavshit fps to draw from, or just copy deus ex hr. while no melee rpgs have been particularly satisfying.
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>>320912675
Yeah, after a deluge of medieval-fantasy shit we'll have a deluge of "science"-fantasy shit.

So hype.
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>>320915637
>evil white men
arent jews caucasian?
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>>320930161
Mass Effect 1 sort of handwaved ammo requirements away. The guns technically use ammunition, but it's not really bullets, it's a solid block of metal that the gun shaves off tiny pieces from to make projectiles. Since the projectiles are so fast, they don't need to be big to do a lot of damage. One block of metal provides so many rounds that the guns effectively have unlimited ammo.

Of course, ME2 changes this so guns have limited ammo like and magazine sizes comparable to current guns.
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>>320932707
>Stormtroopers are one of the enduring concepts of Star Wars and everybody wants to be one.

I don't agree with the second part. Every time Stormtroopers appear, it's so they can be killed by the hundreds. They're fun enemies, but I definitely wouldn't want to be one.
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>>320943697
it's funny because muhreens in power armor (fighting with melee weapons even) have been around since AT LEAST the 1940's, Starship Troopers popularized the whole space marine thing but you had power armor as far back as Lensman / Triplanetary
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Leave space to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfBjZTm8IV4
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>>320930161
You know what I don't see enough of? Automatic energy weapons. I want a laser or plasma assault rifle.
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>>320914513
TRAITOR
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>>320948604
they are in every games.
star war blaster, fallout gatlin laser, wolfenstein coilgun/laser rifle, serious sam 4 barrels,w40k multilas...
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>>320932167
ask tumblr
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