>wanted to try pokemon again
>download gba emulator
>try pokemon fire red
>brain washed from the start
>"catching pokemon is fun"
>"you better catch them all "
>start playing
>fun at first
>gets to a point where every 5 fucking steps you're in a battle
>gameplay gets repetitive quick
>"YOU NEED TO CATCH THE ALL"
>a endless grindfest (worse then destiny at least destiny rewards you)
How do people find this fun? It's annoying as hell
Gotta catch them all
Seriously though, what's the appeal? Just catching everything?
don't actually catch them all unless you're an autist
use repel
>>320885932
Protip: You can buy an item called "repel" that turns off all random encounters. Also you dont actually have to catch them all to beat the game. You just have to become the champion.
Only 90s kids will understand the appeal, sorry OP.
>>320886734
You don't have to catch everything, you don't even have to beat the game really, that was part of the appeal.
>>320885932
>he's too casual even for pokemon
You should probably off yourself at this point
>>320886734
If you really need to ask the appeal of pokemon, it's not for you.
It's a glorified tamagochi. Some people really feel a conection with their pokemon. Some people enjoy the competitive gameplay. Some people enjoy feeling the pokedex, and some people enjoy just playing the story and becoming the champ.
There's always tons of shit to do, and if you like the base content you'll probably enjoy the game for years.
Also the new versions even have custom characters and even more pointless yet fun shit like the battle mansion for you to play trough
>>320887117
>pokemon
>competitive gameplay
>>320887117
This,pretty much
>>320887360
keked
>>320887117
I'm willing to give it another try, is there one you would recommend?
>>320887582
Different anon here, don't play HG/SS, a lot of faggots, mostly on /vp/ hail it as the greatest pokemon game of all time. It's not, though, it's just a nostalia wankfest that did nothing to fix the problems of the original games.
Gen V is pretty good if you don't mind the generic shonen plot shoved down your throat, and Emerald is the best game of gen III. gen IV was cancer incarnate.
Also the best pokemon games are the spinoffs, like the mystery dungeon games.
>>320887582
I really like gen 5 (pokemon black/white and pokemon black/white 2)
Those are the most fleshed out games imo, also the soundtrack's fucking awesome
Pokemon x/y is really good but it really dropped the ball in terms of story, and it tends to chug like hell in some battles. Sometimes the framerate cuts itself in half wich is kind of annoying. The game is still enjoyable tho.
>>320887841
The spin offs are a tricky bunch.
Some people LOVE mistery dungeon and the like, but some find it absolutly boring, like me.
>>320887117
>a glorified tamagochi
Considering the games came out almost a year before the tamagotchis, this is a false assertion.
They're essentially a mix of bug catching, gachapon balls, hat trading, and cock-fighting.
>>320887360
>ALL PART OF BOOM BOOM'S PLAN
of fuck im dying
>>320888116
Well, I guess it's true if you wanna get technical about it, but you know what I mean.
>>320887841
platinum was alright, but im pretty biased towards it.
>>320888119
I have an ebin screencap of carbink and another of some retard having an aneurysm.
>>320887841
>>320887921
OK thanks, I'm going to try out pokemon black. Have any recommendations for a good emulator?
>>320888384
Desmume is the only emulator I've found that actually works. I don't emulate much, though.
>>320888229
Tamagotchis and pokemon have nothing in common aside from having monsters that evolve.
The closest comparison you can make is that it's a multiplayer kid-friendly SMT type game.
>>320888491
amagotchis and pokemon have nothing in common aside from having monsters that evolve.
Can't you feed them and play with them in the newer games?
>>320888336
>>320888589
In the newer games, the ones that came out 17 years after the first pokemon games were released.
>>320888663
and here are the mods being retarded.
>>320887582
gen 1/2 are boring and buggy, but might be nostalgic
FRLG/RS are good for nostalgia sake but that's it
Emerald is great but limited, battle frontier is hard as fuck
DP/HGSS are boring and take forever to get through
Platinum takes forever to finish and is decently challenging, but hated because m-muh originals
BW are shit and short
BW2 are better in every way but still somewhat lacking in charm, PWT is the best thing
XY are shit
ORAS are decent but could have been much better if they took some cues from emerald
Spinoffs generally suck, with the exception of mystery dungeon series
>>320885932
Fire Red and Leaf Green are two of the worst games in the franchise.
None of the GBA Pokemon games are good except for Red Rescue Team
>>320886734
battling and training used to be fun, catching wasn't exactly supposed to be fun
>>320888805
and here is another example of competitive, balanced gameplay. reminder 80 = 0
>>320885932
Well, Pokemon is not for everyone, pal. You just prove that in your post. You should go play something else that you still like.
>>320885932
>needing to grind in a fucking Pokemon game
You should be embarrassed.
>>320886734
Pokemon on its own is a mediocre RPG series gameplay-wise, but it gives the player a lot of ways to play the game. For the main game, you're able to build a team from a selection of 151 Pokemon. With each generation, this number grew so now you can choose between 720 Pokemon. You're bound to find at least one that appeals to you. Then there's post-game. Some people just want to collect all the Pokemon and complete the Pokedex. Others want to battle against other players. Both playstyles can cause you to sink hours into the games if you truly get into it.
I think you need to have some sort of imagination to be able to enjoy these games, just like any role-playing game really.
>>320888895
>I am a babby that was born in the 360 era
epic.
>>320885932
>He didn't know how to make money to buy Max Repel(s)
You're shit, op
>>320885932
This post only shows how underage you are and not for the reason you will first think.
>>320888384
Do not believe that Unovabortion.
Gen V is by far the WORST fucking generation.
Awful pokemon designs, terrible starters, shit story, forgettable characters, Powercreep coming out of it's ass, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. If you're going to play any of the Gen V games, play B2 or W2, they're actually pretty decent. B1 and W1 are absolute fucking garbage.
HG/SS are pretty much unanimously considered the best pokemon games, the only flaw people cry about is
>muh level curve
Which nobody actually cares about.
>>320885932
>wanted to "try pokemon again"
>Destiny is better
Lol righto millenial
>>320888895
HGSS are objectively the best games in the series, this has never been in dispute.
>Conquest
>Channel
>Snap
>bad
You're clearly a fucking braindead piece of shit.
>>320888895
Come back to /v/ when you're 18 kid
>>320889626
>channel
>a game where all you do is watch tv
>good
>>320888943
>Fire Red and Leaf Green are two of the worst games in the franchise.
Seriously? What makes them worse than the GBC games?
>>320889626
>objectively the best
>>320889803
The fact that the GBC had an excuse to be shit because they were the first in the series and released in 1996
>>320889197
I honestly don't believe Pokemon games can be competitive when they only allow four move slots, but that's just me.
>>320890090
Pokemon is competitive, fair, and balanced.
>>320890187
Got funbro?
>>320889626
>nostalgia wankery that does not fix the problems with GSC
>also obtains all the problems inherent with gen IV making it even worse
>best of anything
johtoddler please leave, adults are talking. GSC had the excuse of being on the game boy, HGSS do not.
>>320890353
maybe, gimme a minute or 5. This retard stuck a life orb on a hitmonlee, instead of, oh, I don't know, almost any other item in the game.
>>320886734
Making a team of pokemon you like and watching them get stronger as you adventure through the region
>>320890489
here we go.
>>320890737
How hard is it to pull off the funbro combo?
>>320890737
Beautiful.
I never had any desire to catch them all as a kid, I don't get how it was brain washing to get kids to buy money until the cards came out.
>>320890395
The only problem that HGSS didn't fix was the fact that Johto Pokemon were pretty scarce early on in the game.
>>320890861
You have to find a retard willing to stay in on slowbro with a physical mon that has no SE moves. Also funbro got banned for being too much fun, madmin could not handle the massive amount of fun it caused.
>>320891008
It also didn't fix the level scaling, nor did it fix the pathetically laughable selection of dark-type moves, despite it being 2 generations, nor did it fix the wasteland that kanto was, in the GB era it was acceptable because that was all they could fit, but that was not the case with HGSS It also gained all the issues of gen IV, main one being slow as fuck.
>>320889197
there's a .8% likelihood of it missing thrice in a row, which means that it will happen to someone
.16% for 4
take note that I said likelihood (since each miss is independent of the others, and you have a 20% chance to miss each time), and 80% is far worse accuracy than people think
>>320889547
level curve was kind of dumb, even if HG/SS is my favorite
nothing like every opponent except Blue in Kanto being in their mid 40s
nothing like getting to Red with everyone in your party in the upper 40s/low 50snothing like beating him with very little effort
>>320891260
It's not that slow. D/P was slow as fuck. Platinum and HG/SS were only slightly slower than the Gen 3 games.
>>320891260
>level scaling
The level scaling is fine in HGSS, you can easily defeat Red without ever having to grind against wild Pokemon.
>dark type moves
The selection wasn't too bad. I'd argue that the physical/special split made dark-type moves mroe useful since most dark-types were physical attackers. Although having only one special dark move sucked, but at least it was a pretty useful move (Dark Pulse).
Kanto had a lot more to do than in GSC. They brought back Cerulean Cave and Viridian Forest and Rock Climb gave you a few more areas to explore. I believe that there were a lot more Kanto trainers in the remake too. Although Kanto was already a fairly barren region to begin with, even in the gen 1 games and their remakes. And even in the state that it's in, Kanto still has more to do post-game wise than pretty much every other Pokemon game.
>speed
If you're referring to the movement speed, the speed of the game was on par with Platinum, which greatly improved D/P's speed. It's still somewhat slow compared to gen 3, although pretty much every gen is. If you're talking about the pace of the story, then every Pokemon game since gen 4 suffers from that handholding shit that slows the game to a crawl, particularly gen 5 and 6.
>>320891560
Oh I know it's all percentages. There's one image with boom boom using sheer cold and the math behind it which I do not have or cannot find. This also happened one time:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-171806397
skip to turn 66/67
pokemon is for autist and manchildren :)
>>320887117
Thanks, professor oak
>>320892434
>Red
post-game content. mostly irrelevant to the argument.
also
>arguing NPC difficulty
blizzard/shadow ball/crunch/giga impact says hi.
>dark-type moves
Only dragon- and ghost- were worse, but at least dragons typically have outrage/claw/meteor/pulse. it's really fucking pathetic the moves most dark pokemon have access to. Like you said, most are physical attackers, so shit like embargo does nothing for them.
>th-the speed wasn't that bad!
yes it was you double nigger, I played gen HG on desmume sped up x5 and shit was still obnoxiously slow. Gen IV is slow as shit, regardless of it being Pt/HGSS/DP. There is no fixing it.
>>320889547
>the only flaw people cry about is
>>muh level curve
>Which nobody actually cares about.
You forgot how Johto Pokemon are more rare to come by than Kanto mons in Johto.
And how some Johto Pokemon are even locked to Kanto.
>not posting hot monkay dik
>>320892945
Anon! That's not the time to post that.
>>320887360
>>320888336
>>320888663
>>320888805
>>320889197
>>320890737
>Pokemon isn't competitive!
>showing Singles Battles
how does it feel to be an idiot
>>320894256
>taking showderp seriously
ayy lmao
>>320893641
There are TWO (2) Johto mons in Kanto, Hpundour and Sneasle.
>>320895908
You forgot misdreavus and larvitar. and you didn't address the first half of the previous post. apologists really are pathetic.
>>320890187
The fact that people actually care about balance in Pokemon astounds me
>>320896785
as much as people give smogon shit for being an unofficial format, official format is so fucked that in the world championships or whatever for 2015, there were only 8 pokemon total used amongst all quarter-final teams, or something along those lines. 8. out of 700+.
>pokemon X sitting on my desk for over 2months now unplayed
>start it up
>name the MC after my self
>meet the new kids at the start
>decide to call me by nicknames
>" Lil' D "
fuck
>>320896529
You meab the first part of the post that is a fabrication?
>>320890187
I cant make sense of this mess.
