What did you think of this game, /v/? Where would you place it in the series?
Personally, TTYD > 64 > SPM > Sticker Star
Anything's better than sticker star.
64>TTYD>SPM>Shit>Sticker Star
I know /v/ hates this meme, but it's a good game just not a good Paper Mario game.
>>320884086
64=TTYD>SPM>SS
>>320884417
>preferring 64 over TTYD
Kill yourself nostalgiafag.
>>320884086
I genuinely love it. I won't put it above ttyd, but I actually really enjoyed it, even more so than paper mario. Out of the three paper mario games, i'd say TTYD>SPM>PM
>>320884557
Only faggots hate this meme. It works for multiple games.
utter garbage platformer that gets carried by its writing
>>320884557
I agree, it does deviate too much from normal Paper Mario, but it's still a great game nonetheless.
Paper Mario and Super Mario RPG are the only good Mario RPGs. TTYD is worth playing once but has too much shit in it. Super Paper Mario isn't even a proper RPG. The M&L series is just meh.
>>320884742
This
Good tastes anon
>>320884720
>preferring TTYD over SPM
Kill yourself nostalgiafag.
>>320885021
What's the matter you 64 babby? Do you actually enjoy partners with bland personalities that don't even have any dialogue after they're introduced?
>>320885161
>bland personalities
Yeah like Sushie and...?
>>320884974
>m&l series is just meh
>>320885242
All of them because they never speak.
>>320884086
I love it.
Wish it'd just work on Dolphin though. I've already played through the game on my Wii, but I don't have a Wii or the game disc anymore.
TTYD>SPM>64>Sticker Star
>>320884974
>>320885161
Flurrie and Yoshi say hi.
>>320884086
Anyone who thinks 64 is the best is nostalgiafagging.
Playing it for the first time and yeah it's good but at the same time it's inferior to TTYD in every single aspect.
>>320885325
But they do
>>320885476
When they first appear, and then never again.
>>320884720
>64 came out in 2001
>TTYD came out in 2004
>Nostalgia
>>320885252
They're boring. Deal with it.
>>320885549
They do talk occasionally but not much. I prefer it that way. I don't want some stupid cinematic game.
>>320885714
>I don't want some stupid cinematic game.
I think you do since the battle system in 64 is even less interactive than TTYD. It's mindnumbingly boring.
>>320885616
64 is overrated garbage
>boring locations
>boring story
>boring events
>boring short chapters
>boring boss fights
>boring generic companions
>gameplay isn't as fleshed out as TTYD
why would you prefer 64 over TTYD?
nostalgia that's why, there's no other possible reason
TTYD's chapter 3 alone is better than all of 64
>>320886019
Toybox>Glitzville
>>320886217
nice nostalgia there
>>320886286
eat a dick, toybox was better than glitz
>>320885021
>preferring SPM over Sticker Star
Kill yourself nostalgiafag .
>>320886286
In what way? It was way more creative than WWF
>>320886347
no it wasn't, toybox is boring as shit
>>320886396
>a generic location with Shy Guys is more creative than motherfucking wrestling with funny unique characters while solving a background conspiracy
>>320885985
>I think you do since the battle system in 64 is even less interactive than TTYD. It's mindnumbingly boring.
No, in TTYD you just have to press extra buttons for no reason and it's unnecessary and annoying. 64 has deeper choices as far as setting up Mario and his partners, what badges you will use, etc. The battles are more about decision making than doing extra reaction commands to do stylish moves.
>>320886019
TTYD is Backtracking: The game
>>320886572
And so is 64.
Hell, 64's chapter 6 is literally all backtracking.
Your point?
>>320885621
Lol bro. I'm a former game developper, and I can tell you, from an objective standpoint, the M&L series is much better. It has better combat mechanics (actually dodging and counterattacking as opposed to simply blocking), better writing, better music, and actually goes 4/4 for solid games, as opposed to Paper Mario that only has one and a half good games. The paper aesthetic is fucking shit, it literally hurts the eyes to look at it. Again, this is coming from a Former Game Developper. It really surprises me to see that PM has sold so well considering it's lacklustre gameplay and repetitive storytelling.
>>320886019
>why would you prefer 64 over TTYD?
>nostalgia that's why, there's no other possible reason
What about because it's the better game? Even in 100 years you'd still be mad about this and saying people only prefer 64 because of "nostalgia"; even when that gap of time the games were released in looks so negligible.
>>320886527
Take out the mind numbing endless battles and what does Glitz have left? A few e-mails?
>>320886019
TTYD is far more overrated. Every single chapter aside from the prologue, first and last had some god-awful backtracking that completely ruined any positive points about it. 64's backtracking was mostly limited to the Toybox and Flower Fields chapter.
>>320884742
>even more so than paper mario
>>320886684
Nice appeal to authority fallacy. I'm a current game developer by the way.
>>320886805
please, 64 had exactly the same amount of backtracking
>>320886805
>64's backtracking was mostly limited to the Toybox
Could that even really be considered "backtracking"? I mean it takes like 10 seconds, because of the way it's set up.
>>320884086
TTYD>PM64>SPM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dogshit>>>>>>Shitter star
>>320886936
Are you forgetting about General White? What the fuck was the point of that? 64 doesn't have any backtracking as offensive as that.
It was my first Paper Mario so for a long time I didn't understand why people didn't like it. I had a blast with it.
>>320887027
>what is the letter questline
I actually really liked all of them.
Didn't play Sticker Star though, but I'd have to put TTYD on top just for nostalgia's sake. Heck, I remember lusting over the game in Nintendo magazines or something, reading up about it.
Once I actually had it, it was like everything was right in the world. It was and still is one of my favourite games of all time.
>>320887106
Objectively, subjectively, scientifically and empirically optional.
>>320884086
>TTYD > 64 > SPM > Everything > Sticker Star
>>320887164
It's still there though.
>>320886529
>No, in TTYD you just have to press extra buttons for no reason and it's unnecessary and annoying
So you don't want interactivity in your video game?
>64 has deeper choices as far as setting up Mario and his partners
No. There's even less possible ways to challenge yourself in 64.
>The battles are more about decision making
In TTYD you have to plan ahead and also rely on your reflexes. 64 only requires you to have the IQ of a 6 year old to make basic decisions.
>>320887293
But I didn't have to sit through that while there was absolutely nothing else going on, Chapter 7 had nothing going on out of the (absolutely genius) TEC scenes.
>>320886882
Lol bro. What fucking shitty indy retroshit game are you developping. Trust me pal, you would shit your fucking pants if you knew what I worked on.
>>320886936
The Twilight Town chapter alone had more backtracking than the whole of PM64.
Obviously I'm exaggerating, I might as well put a disclaimer before you jump at me due to rabid fanboyism. But while PM64 had a fair amount of backtracking, TTYD just went completely overboard. The better parts of TTYD were a lot better than the best parts of PM64, but the worst parts of TTYD were a lot worse than the worst parts of PM64. And overall, PM64 was more enjoyable on average. This isn't even nostalgia speaking, I played both games for the first time within the last year or so.
64 has also worse music
compare this garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzdx8jV6GaY
to this masterpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTBNuKyGKnk
>>320886828
Sorry, controversial I know, but I have a hard on when it comes to Mario games actually going out of their way to not take place in the boring mushroom kingdom, where it's all established characters and environments. Spm was extremely great design, art, and musical-wise. Paper mario was great too, don't get me wrong, but I had more fun with spm. I liked the chracters more, the story more, the music more, and the environments more. It was great.
>>320887494
64 is just consistently okay. TTYD actually tries to create unique and memorable scenarios that more than make up for the weak parts.
>>320887782
Paper Mario had tons of original characters and places.
>>320887678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfnO2GCM1JM
Top this.
>>320888023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWwHUKUNFyU
64 = TTYD
Prove me wrong
>>320888018
I agree, but it wasn't as interesting as spm. In Paper Mario it has toads, bowser, yoshis, and tons of other already established stuff making up the majority of the games characters. Spm does have mario related enemies and main characters, but a majority of the actual npcs and characters are completely original. Also spm has better story, that goes above and beyond "peach is kidnapped. Save her. Also something about star power or something."
The decent dialogue is ruined by the overbearing and melodramatic story starring a bunch of laughably designed anime characters. Gameplay is pure trash, the level design is some of the most boring I've ever seen in a platformer and there's practically no flow to the gameplay thanks to the constant dialogue and menu navigation to switch characters. It also looks and sounds like shit.
>>320888330
Boggly woods
64>TTYD
Twilight Princess>Wind Waker
>>320888023
Easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd3y6Pci3g8
>>320888503
hey man, ya gotta get better tastes yo
just sayin' for your sake
>>320888357
I'm sorry but I just don't find random shapes thrown together that interesting or original. I can agree the story was cool.
>>320888512
has a nice design? Yes I agree.
>>320889102
Mimi was the best.
>>320889257
>>320888357
yeah spm story is pretty good from what i remember. The vilains were also neat. Also the nerd chapter
64
>chapter 1: fight some koopas in a fortress
>chapter 2: go in a pyramid in a desert
>chapter 3: ghost house with an ''invincible'' monster
>chapter 4: toy box with Shy Guys
>chapter 5: Yoshi's Island with a bit of Indiana Jones
>chapter 6: backtracking in a place full of flora
>chapter 7: short as fuck adventure in a frozen area with a castle full of mirrors
>chapter 8: valley of stars and Bowser's castle
TTYD
>chapter 1: koopa village with a castle in which you have to kill a dragon
>chapter 2: a forest with a huge tree home of little creatures that has been taken over
>chapter 3: motherfucking wrasslin
>chapter 4: spooky forest with backtracking with a Rumpel influence
>chapter 5: motherfucking pirates and a island with a treasure and ghosts of previous pirates
>chapter 6: mystery on a train
>chapter 7: backtracking and then the fucking moon with a hypertechnological base
>chapter 8: a place full of dark shit
Overall TTYD is better
>>320888023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylxM3qQw9TI
>>320889384
Completely unbiased summary. 10/10 would accept as absolute truth again.
>>320889384
This comparison isn't biased towards TTYD at all anon.
>>320889102
I understand that. I personally enjoyed it and I can see why people wouldn't. I loved the levels though, how it was structured, I just loved everything about it. Only complaint is I wish the rpg elements would be a bit more fleshed out, but it worked well for me.
>>320889384
Cringe/10.
Don't ever try this again.
>>320889510
>>320889576
nothing in that is biased
>>320889827
So do you want me to tear this comparison apart?
>Sticker shills trying to drive a wedge between 64 and ttyd bros
fuck off
>>320889934
sure go ahead
>>320890036
Well the biased starts with the first fucking star, you mention the koopa village for TTYD yet fail to mention it for 64.
>>320889384
64
>chapter 1: fight some motherfucking koopas in a fucking fortress
>chapter 2: go in a fucking pyramid in a desert
>chapter 3: motherfucking spooky ghost house with an ''invincible'' monster
>chapter 4: goddamn toy box with fucking Shy Guys
>chapter 5: Yoshi's fucking Island with a bit of Indiana Jones
>chapter 6: backtracking in a place full ofmotherfucking radical ass flora
>chapter 7: short as fuck adventure in a frozen area with a castle full of fucking mirrors
>chapter 8: valley of fucking stars and Bowser's motherfucking castle
ftfy ;^)
>>320890119
That just shows how unmemorable 64 is.
>>320889956
There are legit shills for that piece of shit?
>>320890195
>>320889384
64:
>1: relaxing meadow then dark fortress with comical koopa brothers
>2: summit a mountain and then travel an expansive desert in search of a mysterious temple
>3: spooky forest and then an invincible monster
>4: you get transported inside a motherfucking toy box
>5: Yoshi's island with an Indiana Jones influence
>6: beautiful flower field with a really hard boss and best party member
>7: bravely summit another mountain thats frozen and get lost in a challenging castle of mirrors
>8: travel into the fucking sky and fucking kick Bowser's ass HOLY SHIT
TTYD
>1: generic meadow then generic dragon inside generic castle
>2: backtracking inside monochrome forest
>3: you sit in one place and fight a bunch of shit
>4: backtracking inside spooky forest
>5: backtracking on an island
>6: mystery on a train
>7: backtracking and then moon landing
>8: place full of dark shit
I can cherry pick too.
>>320889956
This, they're both amazing games.
>>320890224
No it shows how much of a turdface you are master bait man.
>>320886684
I'm a former game developer. I remember when i coded the writing and the music.
I was also president of the united states once. You can trust me when I personally say that thing is better than other thing. Differing opinions are stupid.
You heard it from emperor of the moon.
>>320890895
My uncle was nintendo so you're wrong.
>>320889486
>There are people who would have never known this track exists if not for Chuggaconroy
>>320886684
>lol bro
>i was a game developer
>i was a minute part of a whole video game and therefore my opinion is more important than yours
>lol bro
>im a former engineer
>let me tell you which car is best and why your taste in cars is shitty
off with your opinions, fuccboi
>>320884086
Best in the series, the highs are MUCH higher than any of the other Paper Marios achieved.
64 > ttyd > spm > sticker star
No need to explain spm and SS placements
As for 64, it had no bad chapters whereas ttyd has chapter 2, chapter 3 on repeat playthroughs, and the first half of chapter 4 being absolute cancer
>>320890895
>>320891387
Lol. You kids would shit your pants if you knew who I am and what games I developped for. Too bad I'm not stupid enough to disclose that shit on the internet.
Really, I understand why you NEETs might be jealous, considering I was part of such successful projects that I keep making bank without having worked a day these past three years. Stay mad kiddos.
>>320886684
>>320891387
>>320891956
Can you guys quit it? Every Mario RPG except Sticker Star is pretty competent and solid for the most part.
>>320892202
This
>>320891917
>shitting on WWE: Mario edition
Do you think IS will ever figure out that the story was the one part that made Super good, and the lack of it was what made SS bad?
>>320891917
>chapter 3 on repeat playthroughs
Who knew that you had to play the game again if you play the game again????
>>320892506
What's so fun about it? It was no different than normal battles on other chapters, except there was nothing to explore and find them.
>>320887678
64's battle theme is infinitely better than TTYD's battle theme. And since that's probably the music that you hear the most during the game, that's a lot more important.
>>320889384
64 was more consistent with its pacing compared to TTYD which had all of Chapter 2, the backtracking of 4 and the fucking backtracking of 7
>>320884557
Eh, I think thats 90% of what people complain about, but as a game it has its own problems. For starters, its just not very fun to play, and is very dialogue heavy (with characters that aren't necessarily as interesting as those in TTYD and 64, to boot).
>>320892669
More like will IS ever learn that a nice setting and story were what made all Paper Mario games great.
>>320891917
>As for 64, it had no bad chapters
l m a o
>>320892750
>Exploring glitzville
>The other fighters you could talk to
>Yoshi
>>320893126
Which one mr.shit taste
>There is never going to be another good Paper Mario game
>>320892949
about as soon as Nintendo realizes that variety of music and setting is a big part of what made all of the Mario games great.
I'm a sucker for snow and ice so 64>TTYD
>>320893257
6 unless you love backtracking. 3 is also god awful to replay since half of it is just scripted sequences. 2 is also really fucking boring. Do people actually prefer this game over TTYD?
>>320893257
6 and 3
>>320884974
Shit Taste: the Post.
>>320893874
>>320893897
>Hating the invincible tubba blubba and the spooky forest
Bad taste
>>320889956
Ah, shit. They figured it out.
>>320894110
>liking either of those things
Literally how
>>320891956
keep telling yourself that, fucboi
youre a nobody
no one will remember your work when you die
if you were such an amazing person as you claim to be you wouldnt be in this shithole wasting your time. in fact, im surprised a person of your caliber even has free time on sunday - get back to work, slaveboi
I hadn't played the other Paper Mario games at the time, but I got so bored of SPM I quit halfway through.
Do the controls play nicely with a gamepad on Dolphin?
I prefer TTYD just because it's less "Mario-y"
>>320890195
now you just made the actually good chapters sound bad and the bad chapters sound worse
>>320889257
Mimi iskinda hot
Official PM partners tier list.
>>320898054
What's baby yoshi good at?
It really underwhelmed me
>The game just feels weird. It's like a weird mishmash of an RPG and a platformer. It doesn't mix.
>Bosses were too easy at times. Literally had to jump like four or five times to beat some of them. The only boss I had a bit of trouble with was Mr. L
>Literally felled the final boss in about six jumps
>The Overthere can go fuck itself.
>I simply didn't have much fun through most of the game.
>There may have been a touching story here but I didn't care enough to pay attention
I'd give it a high 6 out of 10 being generous. Previous 2 games were way better
>>320892669
not if this guy has anything to say about it
>>320895250
EL OH FUCKING EL. Bro I am lmaoing right now at your pitiful life. If you had 2 brain cells to rub together you would have noticed that I said I'm still making fucking bank off of work I did YEARS ago. The reason I'm on /v/ is because I wanted to discuss videogames, not argue with retards like you.
Feels good knowing I likely won't ever have to work a day in my life ever again, and if I do who cares, I am literally a prodigy of game development. Stay mad cuckboi.
>>320898643
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>>320897696
more
>>320898054
>Ms Mowz
>above anyone
>>320899032
Nice pasta pussy. Too bad my claims are all legit, and you're still a loser. Gg no re
>>320899592
Sure here's all of my mimi pics
http://imgur.com/a/cip6W
>>320884086
I never played a Paper Mario game prior and I liked it a lot. The whole 2D-3D parallel impressed the fuck out of me and the way it retained the platforming elements was fun.
>>320899592
>>320900001
Pls gib proof I want two show al my kool friens that I talk with freezer video game man of many moneys
Gameplay: 2>1>4>3
Story: 3>2>1>4
Universe: 1=2>3>4
Soundtrack: 4>2>3=1
>>320903005
Perfect tastes
