What is the prettiest fighting game ever made and why is it Guilty Gear Xrd?
Only anime nerds thinks like that actually. I showed Xrd to my friend and he was like "what the hell is this? is it from Megadrive or something?"
>>320819053
Ayyyyyyy
>>320818824
I wanna see the new lighting engine in Rev. Is there a video for it?
>>320819053
>3D Models
>Megadrive
>>320818824
I honestly have to say it is. I'm not even a big fan of it (or other anime fighters, game play wise. They're not bad, I just like muh footsies and ground game) mechanically, but it's fucking eye candy, and probably my favorite fighter to watch, for a combination of that, and the fact it is a really good fighter, just not one I like playing.
>>320819261
Isn't the whole point of them to not look like 3d models?
>>320819313
>I just like muh footsies and ground game
I'm not one to say fuck off because you like what you like. But this part should is really a big blatant lie. Though I'm not surprised people most don't see it because of the game being fast-paced. Once you do play it though, you know how it's actually full of those things.
>>320819316
Only a retard would think the models are 2D. The camera fucking rotates and you see the 3D models.
>>320819551
Camera only rotates in the end of a round, you retard.
>>320819645
Camera rotates when you do a super and dustloops. The models are 3d but they did their best to kill anything 3d about it. Watch their GDC presentation.
>>320819053
you fucking stink The stench of a pleb
>>320819529
Really? Never actually played much GG, bit the only other "anime" fighter I ever got into competitively was Mahvel, which was basically "short moments of slowly walking back and forth on the ground, before spending the rest of the round playing 'The floor is lava' once the match gets going in high gear". I just kind of assumed most other fighters with heavy air mobility were like that.
>>320819645
>calls me retard
>when "his friend" can't even differentiate 3D and 2D
And an even bigger retard for thinking 2D makes it uglier.
>>320819649
>no tights
It's shit
>>320818824
So what's going on in the background? Why does Eiffel Tower have Jack'O'Lantern beneath it? Is France some kind of magic academy city in GG universe?
Third Strike is.
>>320819707
>>320819714
It's funny how you got buttblasted over fact some guy I knew don't think Xrd looks great. It's even more funny since I do think it looks great but I also understand why normalfags think Mortal Kombat looks better.
based ArcSys
>>320819857
Blah blah blah, yeah whatever kid , you letrolled us sure !
>>320819857
>pulling the normalfag excuse
Who gives a fuck what they think? This thread isn't about "what do normalfags think is the prettiest fighting game?". We already know they have shit taste. No need telling us.
>>320819710
I always use this video as an example of footsies, neutral, and spacing because it's actually very easy to see those here. Check out the match, especially the 1st round.
Umecha (Jam) vs Roi (Sol)
https://youtu.be/7dvTmgkeQtE?list=WL&t=18838
Notice the spacing and neutral of the Sol. Just enough spacing to see if Jam is going to airdash so that he can bust out his anti-air normal. Footsies as well, that Jam can't even try to attack back. Pretty basic.
Notice as well he only did 2 combos. One even unfinished because of a burst from Jam.
>>320819710
There's a decent variety in anime/air dash fighters, but combo porn games are the most prolific ones.
Guilty Gear Xrd at least is a game almost entirely composed of footsies and okizeme.
>>320820085
combo porn fighting games suck.
>>320819053
you don't have any friends
Seriously this is my favorite fighting game yet
And I am a big tekken , street fighter and yes mortal kombat fan
>>320820008
>The example video is between two rushdown characters
Not to say that it doesn't show off the footsie game, but I can't help but feel it should be easy to find a better example somewhere.
>>320820085
Probably important to note that the okizeme is way bigger than the footsie.
>>320818824
I only wish more people were playing online. Maybe after the SFV beta weekend is over.
>>320820264
That one is a good example because it "easily" shows. Even both are rushdown type characters.
If you want a more complex check on footsies, go check out Venom vs Characters.
any US lobbies up?
>>320820350
I am waiting for my damn xmas pay so I can actually get it.
Need to get my Faust derusted
>>320820350
I still haven't had any issues finding a match, but I'm US West Coast. I'm not sure if there's actually a big lack of players so much as they're still trying to fix the problems.
>>320820008
Wow, you're right. While they're both being aggressive as hell, there's still a very strong ground game going on, and most Ariel maneuvers seem to be fake outs, or just distance covering. Even the one combo at the end, which was pretty big, was nowhere near marvel level.
I'm actually interested now. Didn't this just come to PC? I might check it out. Any good crash courses/tutorials, for someone decently experienced with fighters, and just looking for the specific mechanics/methods of this game, and not "up is jump. Back is block."?
>>320820442
I'mAustralianand lucky if Ican even find a lobbyand even then luckier ifthe game sits under 5f delay.
>>320820442
There isn't. People just don't realize that lobbies are full so they assume the game isn't active. When I make a lobby, it fills up fairly quickly. Most people are too lazy to make a lobby when they don't get anything.
Is May honest or bullshit and gimmicks?
>>320820507
There's an extremely in-depth tutorial in-game for learning.
Guilty Gear takes advantage of the fact that its identity in that there's an air-footsie game where you're trying to catch a hit and confirm it into a combo. The fundamental is the same as the ground game, in that you can dash to cover distance but become vulnerable, block while in the air, read into grabs and whatever.
>>320820507
>Guilty Gear Crash Course (MUST WATCH. It discusses important things about the gameplay)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj34EySs1IeZ8GpjKW8R2T6dzI6B3GSuH
>Sites to check out high-level players play
http://www.keeponrock.in/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNS7KzXpV2VFJZw_sB9uqhA
Once you buy the game, it really has an in-depth tutorial on things. They will discuss everything there.
>>320820350
Fucking assholes never fixed the europe version, we cant play with canda , us, and australia also no dlc characters
can you believe this shit?
>>320820693
So I'll probably still have to sit through a little of the super basics? Fair enough I suppose. After I grind that out, what should I do? Can I just jump online and expect my fundamentals to keep me afloat once I come to grips with a caracter?
>>320820649
She's honest.
>>320820769
Crossplay should be standard for all fighters.
>>320820858
>>320820704
Thank you very much. I have it downloading now. Wish me luck anons.
>>320820769
To be fair, you wouldn't be able to play with US players even if it was the same version. What sucks though is that a part of the EU playerbase is on a different version, fracturing the community within the same region.
>>320820864
These are the times when I hope ArcSys is a big company. Sadly they aren't.
>>320820769
I still can't believe how EU console version got fucked. I'm from EU and got JP import on release, but feel really sorry for everyone who got burned with 6-month delayed outdated release.
That's also probably a reason why finding matches with good connection is so hard in EU - there are like 2 or 3 rooms with other importfags every evening.
>>320820864
>>320821020
not only the crossplay luck is bullshit, also the luck of characters that are on the fucking cover of the game
I dont understand why i cant play with leo and elphet
Meanwhile, they actually made SF uglier from last-gen.
Why do people hate him?
>>320820786
Do the tutorial first. Relatively speaking, Guilty Gear is execution light and technical heavy. The amount of universal mechanics you need to hammer in is pretty annoying to be honest, Danger Time is reviled by pretty much everyone but on a personal level, there're a lot of mechanics I wish they'd simplified or cut around myself.
You really don't need to do much practice to get simple combos down. The game's much more lenient than Street Fighter if you're coming from there and most characters don't need to bother with links if you can chain. Ky, Sol, Faust, Sin and Elphelt are the recommended beginner characters but I honestly think it's fine to start learning with whoever you like. Maybe avoid Slayer and Potemkin who require a lot of game knowledge.
I wouldn't be afraid of jumping online quickly after tutorials and some challenge matches. The community right now has a lot of new players, and again the execution is forgiving.
>>320820864
For crossplay, you apparently need to run your own servers. Capcom does this with SFV and it requires a pretty big investment. Kinda shitty of Sony and Valve not to allow it on their own servers.
>>320821149
It sure looks terrible. It's as if they went with something in the middle of photorealism and cartoony.
>>320821172
They don't know framedata for his rekkas and can't block low/overhead.
>>320819649
BARE
FUCKING
LEGS
>>320821260
That's the issue. They should've covered up those low-texture rocks with something more stylistic to hide the imperfections. Xrd does this really well. It's running on an older engine and made on a smaller engine yet looks prettier because the devs realized what the limitations are and designed after that. The lightning in some SFV stages is pretty good though.
>>320821149
The aesthetic direction bothers me a lot more than any quality of the graphics.
I really liked Third Strike's style. It had this real urban feel to it.
SOMEONE MAKE LOBBY
>>320821251
>Kinda shitty of Sony and Valve not to allow it on their own servers.
Right, you should allow competitor companies access to your infrastructure, there's no way they're gonna fuck it up.
>>320821376
What about Portal 2?
>>320821172
>>320820350
>>320820195
>>320819649
Still unbelievable how good this game looks.
You assholes are all gonna drop the game in a month. You always do.
I suppose it's not that big a deal because you already gave arcsys your money which will lead to future updates/versions. But still. Everyone here will just look at he pretty screenshots and say "wow that looks nice" and then move on before actually committing time to it.
It really bums me out.
>>320821561
If it makes you feel better I don't commit to any fighter. I just play for fun here and there. But I like this one a lot and will buy Revelator as well if they port it
>>320818824
Xrd uses some pretty nice shaders.
If they didn't the models would be uglier than sin with all the stretching and morphing.
>>320821149
I heard that people are mad about SFV right now in the current beta. About nerfs and stuff.
>>320818824
>5120x2880
For what purpose?
>>320818824
Sprites are better than models.
Melty Blood is fucking beautiful.
>>320821561
I'll play it casually with friends from time to time. But I probably won't bother much with /v/ lobbies as I get steamrolled.
quick reminder to try not to mash
Blazblue with Unreal Engine 4 and Arcsysworks 2D magic when?
>>320822265
Will they actually try to port GG to UE4 though.
>>320822265
>blazblue
Let it die already. Game got retarded after the second rendition
>>320822265
Never. Part of the reason GG is 3D is to stand apart from Blazblue.
Well. Maybe when they release a crossover game.
>>320822112
Dear god no. Melty Blood is hideous.
The way GG does the models is an improvement to sprites in literally every way.
>>320822335
>Third most popular game in Arcades
>Merchandise monster
>Lots of spinoffs
Yeah, not happening.
>>320821501
Used Valve's own servers.
You're more likely to see win10/xbone crossplay like KI in the future because win10 can run an extension of XBox live so as long as games run in that MS allows it.
>>320822265
Now imagine crossover where every character has GG and BB grooves, with access to different universal system mechanics, different properties of specials and so on.
>>320821191
I always heard that GG is really execution heavy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL0k2koiULA
>>320822243
Mashing would have worked perfectly fine in that situation if the Sin player had mashed the right things.
>>320822535
I'd rather just have one set of universal mechanics that compromises the two series. I kind of dislike styles in games, makes things complicated.
Something like gameplay a bit closer to GG than Blazblue. Four buttons, with drives. Sol gets Dust, Ky gets Grinder, ecetera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8zx9qxCSvM
>>320822864
yep, it's cut off, but after the webm he hits me with a jab, no trade.
the webm's more about the part where he panics and wastes a YRC in the middle.
>>320822265
People would be so mad if they did that, because it would mean they'd have to scale down the roster just like they did with Xrd.
>>320823034
Can't he just 6p that?
>>320823034
Judging from his inputs he's panicking quite a bit, just trying to get out his H specials. I'm guessing he was a new player?
>>320823112
You should be able to 6P all dolphins
how do I into this game? I tried it yesterday for the first time. I only played doa and mortal kombat from fightan games.
>>320823192
That's what I thought. His 6P is like the one of the best in the game. So he really didn't and was panicking as well.
>>320823112
not familiar with sin, but I'd be surprised if it wouldn't work
>>320823161
I think so, I just joined a random lobby because none were up
I did a few more matches with him and then watched the replays, whenever he got hit into an aircombo or dust combo he'd mash like in the webm
he also woke up with 6hs all the damn time, I don't think he ever blocked on wakeup.
>>320823229
50% of your time in practice/training, 50% of your time playing with others.
Watching match videos of top players for your character is also helpful. If you want short term progress, you could just try to emulate whatever they do.
I can't get the timing of dash canceling after Ky's 6HS.
>>320818824
That really doesn't look impressive.
>>320824168
Show something better.
>>320820195
Why is she crying near the end?
>take a look at some matches with Ram on youtube
>she always loses
Does no one just play her or what
So I'm testing guilty gear xrd sign on my PC
Why do all my screenshots come out black?
Also, will they fix the lower res sprites? It looks pretty bad
>>320825716
Because she remembers her restaurant that was destroyed.
>>320826029
>sprites
what?
>>320826182
the illustrations man, when you select a character for example, or the menu stuff in general
>>320826372
Did you pirate it? They patched that.
KoF13 still looks better
Arcsys games always have terrible animation and skip frames like crazy
So many good fighting games are coming out next year, how am I going to get good at any of them?
>BlazBlue
>Guilty Gear
>SF5
>Tekken 7
>KoF (maybe)
What did I forget?
>>320826995
The genre is at its peak now.
>>320818824
The last blade 2
>>320822479
>this objectively, unabated garbage taste
never play a game again in your life, you heathen
>>320832015
Anon, melty blood looked pretty good for a 2D fighter, but if you actually think GG isn't one of the best transitions from 2D to 3D for a fighting game then you really do need to fuck off back to your CRT cave.
You can't stay in 640x480 2D sprites forever. It's time to move on and GG actually does it well, which is not easy for fightan
>>320822479
>>320832015
>>320832651
WHEN'S MELTY HD DOE
>>320826995
play the one with the gameplay you enjoy the most?
play the one with the most characters you enjoy?
>>320822008
Probably to show off that the way they accomplished those graphics looks good at any resolution.
>>320826995
Guilty Gear Xrd blew me away. It's the only fightan game I've played that teaches you how to play the game, which it does through challenges. Then in online, the lobby system is sweet: you join a room with up to ?? slots and then you can play/watch/wait at four virtual arcade machines. As far as mechanics go, I like that they got rid of some of the "I gotta grind this in training mode" by killing FRC, but changes the roman cancel mechanics to keep it deep while introducing Blitz Shield. Only new mechanic I'm not sure about is Danger Time, which always feels silly... but it's Guilty Gear.
AND of course the graphics are beautiful. They did the 3D looking 2D thing perfectly by carefully using cell-shading but by editing the normal maps, scaling parts of the models during animations, and I forgot what else.
Even if you don't like rushdown, air-dashing, anime, combos, etc., GGXrd is setting the bar for fighting game features.
>>320820789
There is a chance for it to drop after every opponent and class matches (the ones with the star) drop one every time.
"s5aw" east coast room
tell me if you can connect because i can't seem to find anyone online
>>320826995
Just play the good ones aka guilty and tekken.
>>320825919
http://keeponrockin.meteor.com/Matches/
Anyone have some tips for a bottom of the barrel I-No player?
I tried gitting gud but it's not really working so far
>>320835893
are west coast players welcomed?
>>320836118
that's fine. let's hope the connection isn't too bad.
>>320836195
Cool. is this for pc?
>>320834530
Yeah the lobby system is pretty fucking good. It's such a huge step from USF4 which was barebones as fuck. And somehow, I doubt SFV will have better lobby system. I just don't get that impression playing the beta. The fact that you can actually type and communicate with others is a plus.
>>320836372
yes
although i might just get on console just because i can't find a single person after hours of searching
>>320834530
>It's the only fightan game I've played that teaches you how to play the game
Scruby-doo-bee-doo.
>>320836460
If you can't find rooms, make one. Unless you live in Australia. Then you're fucked.
>>320836460
it's better on console desu
finding games is super easy in the evening
Will UNIEL be deader than Xrd on PC?
>>320836460
I'm in your lobby
>>320836507
right here >>320835893
>>320836589
i hate turning on my ps3 and also it cant connect to my 5g net
Can I get into any lobby and spectate without bothering anyone even if my ping fucking sucks?
>>320836662
Definitely, especially since st will be announced for ps3/4 soon.
>>320836094
I'm not sure what you're struggling with and I'm not a good I-No player, so I'll tell you a bit about I-No from my impression of her when I was a completely new player.
If you as a new player are struggling with execution I feel like it's good to focus on being able to to things consistently. For example if you hit an opponent with a dashing j.S, instead of following it up with an optimized combo like j.S>6P>5H>IAD>j.K>j.S>j.VCL>HCL~follow up>oki it's better to just go j.S>6P>5H>HCL~follow up>oki. I think I-No is the kind of character that might give new players a headache when they see high level tech with her, like her crazy j.D FD cancel for extremely tricky mixups and they might feel like they need to be able to do all that stuff to play her. You have to start slowly with her.
I-No is all about scoring a knockdown and taking all the momentum for yourself. I'm sure you know how good the music note is. You want to get your opponent to block it and fly in since I-No generally has to commit to risky approaches if she just flies on in. HCL YRC is also a really good tool and if you hit with it you can often get a big combo afterwards, but if you're not feeling confident about that then try HCL YRC>air dash>j.S>j.H>HCL~follow up.
Here are a few things I found helpful. If your opponent is staying back a lot feel free to just fire away notes until they block one of them. If they are staying grounded at mid range and are constantly attempting to prevent you from flying in with pokes and projectiles then bring out horizontal chemical love to score a knockdown or use stroke the big tree to go under and low profile their stuff. If they are reversal happy and like to DP a lot when you are flying towards them after knocking them down then flying in and use a j.VCL YRC and block their DP.
That being said, I'm no authority on GG and I'm certain that there are other players here that could give you a lot better advice.
>>320822243
>those sin inputs
>tfw Zappa never
Well at least Elph is fun
Put gabriel in revelator
can someone link me that site with the crash courses of each character? it wasn't dustloop but it was good
>>320825716
Her restaurant got BTFO again
>>320838150
>gabriel
why would you play a dumbed down slayer
Anyone playing Xrd with a fight pad? I'm planning to buy one this xmas, since an arcade stick is kinda expensive and god forbid me from playing anime fighters with a 360 pad.
>>320838272
You can get a stick for only like $40 more than a pad
Same price as a pad if you don't need ps4 support
>>320838272
I've played Guilty Gear on my DS3 for a few years now. I've never used a stick though so I have nothing to compare it to.
To the padfighters, do you use the dpad or the analog? I kind of like the dpad for the accuracy, but it's so fucking hard for me to input super movements fast
>>320837965
I think trying to get too complicated too fast is one of my problems. I spent so much time trying to master some big combos but I never really learned how to get in and do it. I'll keep what you said in mind, thanks anon.
>>320838272
Use your regular controller for your console. It;s easier to play anime fighters on it than capcom fighters.
butifel
>>320838640
nice
>>320818824
Just wait for Killer Instinct Season 3!
>>320838640
I wanted to get one of those but I couldn't find any for a good prices (including shipping) and the cheaper decent arcade sticks like the Qanba Q1 were just $10 higher, so I just ended up getting the Q1.
How do I stop being a salty loser?
I've been playing fighting games for the entirety of two days, and I already feel like quitting.
Can I get my money back if I don't play like FAB from the get go?
>>320838506
d-pad always. But there are a lot of controllers with awful d-pad.
>>320838640
How much did you spend?
>>320822243
What do you do to get out of that situation anyway? I got a friend of mine in a similar string just by mashing Slayer's slash move, and he couldn't do a single thing to escape.I ended up losing anyway because halfway through the second round I collapsed on the floor from laughing so hard.
>>320838640
That dpad gave me a boner
>>320839370
In the situation with the sin player he could have used 6P. A fast normal with decent range like Sin's 5S would most likely have worked as well. When it comes to Slayer's slash move (f.S I'm guessing) then the situation is a bit different since that one is +6 frames on block. A decent way to deal with it is to use faultless defense. Since it causes extra push back you would black on or two of Slayer's f.S and then he would whiff the next one.
>>320840020
>black
meant block
>>320839370
Blitz Shield (S + HS) the fuck out of them
