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What sort of augmentations would /v/ get? I'd probably go for some cybernetic eyes, but not much more than that.
Very related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjEFgAuL_O0
cyber eyes
brain enhancements
leg enhancements
robotic horse cock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsNZJTWw0w
Honestly i might just go all out
>>320790592
cybernetic liver. and or digestive tract. then i'd never have to worry about drinking too much. I wanna say grandpa rick has one now seeing as that cat chick shot his.
>>320790592
Butt augmentation all the way.
>>320790592
>You don't even know I'm wearing two
Brain
Probably replace my stomach and other organs connected to it
Arm and Leg Strength
Im tired of having a stomach all the time.
>>320790592
none
unless I've lost or damaged that part. exoskeletons and robots can do the job better without making me into a freak of nature.
>>320792632
Stomach ache*
I'd like to know if I have a chance with a girl, maybe I'd make a move.
>>320790592
neumatic cock
>>320790592
Eyes. Contrary to popular belief, they didn't pluck out Adam's eyes. They coated it in a "plastic film' that acts as a monitor/projector, with chips and wires and plastic wafers in it, to act as the computer, and in the case of the wafer, to simulate the Smart Vision.
Probably add some augments from F:NV too, like the Probability Calculator, the Subdermal armor,Logic Co-Processor, maybe the Nociception Regulator
or I could be pic related
>>320790592
I think having a HUD 24/7 would drive you insane.
Cyber legs.
id git mor eys 2 see buttr wen i play me vidya gaems
>>320792708
You're not a freak if everyone's doing it
My dick is augmented.
>>320790592
Everything. Synthetic > Organic
Did no one realize the entire point of the game was to point out how bad augmentations can be and that we shouldn't have them?
>>320795470
Would you still be human though?
>>320795470
keep the brain anon, what if we discover psionics? Wouldn't you want to be a psionic robot?
Literally everything. Ideally I would just replace my brain piece by piece with computer hardware, thus "transferring" my consciousness into an immortal machine.
brain enhancements
lung enchancements
>>320795520
Nigga, humans ain't no magical paradigm that transcends understanding, it's a collection of meat cells that grew in complexity based on the inevitability of evolution. If we are able to improve on everything that we are, then we should do it.
Super high speed internet access
anywhere anytime
untraceable high grade hacking ablilities
and strength enhancers
>>320795520
That's a good question, tough to answer. As long as my mind and personality was intact then I'd say yes.
>>320795541
Nah, I just want to live forever in some digital paradise. Would have a body to which I could upload myself for real life activities.
I want the same body Matoko has.
>>320795828
smoker? or just out of breath?it would be wise to "train" your lungs first before getting replacements, something something placebo or autosuggestion, or just affinity
>>320795861
Watch_Dogs? I imagine being a walking ctOS would drive anyone crazyif they're not using their hacking skills to siphon money from bank accounts
I would fix my teeth. You guys don't know what it's like to have teeth you don't like.
>>320790957
>living in the cyber present
>girls don't dress like that yet
>>320790592
Not much I'd probably just get some [spoilers] LEGS, MAXIMUM LEGS
YOU GAIN BROUZOUF
YOU GAIN BROUZOUF
YOU GAIN BROUZOUF
>>320795470
Organic is actually better than synthetic because it literally just works. Synthetic needs maintainece for everything, while organic limbs only require that you eat and they'll take care of themselves.
>>320790592
>What sort of augmentations would /v/ get?
Literally everything I could possibly get
LEAVE HUMANITY BEHIND
>>320796142
don't let the dentist pluck them out anon, you tell him/her to just "sculpt" it.Seriously
I'd take the CASIE Aug and get laid with my pheromones.
>>320792416
Why the fuck would you do that to your body. Jesus.
>>320796578
Well duh. I want my lower jaw widened enough for my tongue to lie down naturally, not for my whole jaw to be removed.
>>320796657
The best thing is that he's a dude.
What makes you think ANYONE would invest in giving YOU expensive upgrades? You're a failure now, you're gonna remain a failure.
>>320796657
Jealousy is what makes you hate...
>>320795832
>Nigga,
that was savage af tbqh famila
>humans ain't no magical paradigm that transcends understanding,
One the biological level, this is true. We understand a lot of how the human body works, and that gives us knowledge.
But the human condition isn't just knowing how we work, is it? I'd argue its defined by our experiences as a species, and by augmenting ourselves we radically change that in an unnatural jump that will fuck us all up.
Sure, you could think faster, move quicker, lift more and fuck longer but that won't save you from the non-physical issues that augmentations create, like what we see in Human Revolution.
Did you even play the game?
>>320795920
Its a philosophical one and thus impossible to answer. I'd argue that becoming a fully cyberized person would make you inhuman, because you would be detached from problems that make us human.
idk lol tho
>Not fusing synthetic materials with your organic body to keep everything together, and whole and becoming more powerful then organics, and syntethic combined
>wanting to get your body amputated.
Plebs
>tfw only have 80gb storage capacity in my brain
>use a doubler to increase capacity to 160gb
>fuck yeah
I would totally get a laser thumb.
>>320796779
jaw? I meant teeth, don't replace your teeth. It hurts when it rains
>>320790592
I'd go for bioaugmentations but only because I want my robot waifu to receive a genuine biological dicking.
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>>320796142
I can think of someone that can.
>>320797145
I meant jaw as in all the teeth. Some of them stick in too far and it makes it hard to talk.
>>320797276
Well I'm thankfully not that bad. My overall jawline is well shaped, but I have 2 or 3 problem teeth.
>>320797386
...fuck, that's suffering right there..
>>320790957
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsNZJTWw0w
>We could have this and then some
>Fully prosthetic bodies could be real
>Exoskeletons that allow us to exert forces previously impossible by the human body
>Orthopedic disability could literally be eradicated
>But money
>But profits
>But bureaucracy
>But corporation's pre-existing interest
I watched the entire thing, cried, then raged when I realized that affordable bionics will never happen in my lifetime.
>>320790592
I'd replace damn near everything except my brain, and get that modded to hell and back.
The human body is overrated.
>>320790592
I'd get my legs enhanced for those kickass runs and jumps. I'd get at least one eye done so I can have a HUD in real life and surf the web and stuff hands free. And of course I'd get a CASIE aug since being able to manipulate people so thoroughly is honestly the scariest ability in the game.
>>320797087
why didn't he just go back and get doubled again?
>>320796283
But organic parts come with a heavy price tag. First of all there's the aging and organic muscles need maintenance too namely working out which takes time and energy. With augmented limbs you would always be as fit as possible and use the spared time for something else.
>>320795520
Get the fuck out of here Darrow
>>320798075
I get Darrow's reasoning, but it was pretty flawed reasoning. I agree with him that we shouldn't have augmentations, but I think there are better ways than trying to kill everyone on earth.
>>320798224
>I agree with him that we shouldn't have augmentations
Kill yourself
>>320798224
Get out Darrow
>>320798334
Why? Humanity has consistently pushed limits, but we've always maintained the human condition. By allowing augmentations we'll become something more than human, but the cost of that is too severe for us as a race.
>>320790592
Probably just the eyes at first, so I could have IR vision and a HUD.
Above that, I'd replace various body parts as they became weak with age, eventually replacing everything I could.
I'd even replace the brain, if it could be done gradually so as to maintain stream of consciousness. Straight-up uploading doesn't sit well with me because it seems a lot like just making a clone and killing the original.
Flesh is weak, metal is strong.
>>320797729
Do you remember how many breads you've eaten?
>>320798564
> but the cost of that is too severe
And that would be?
Another form of escapism? Isn't vidya enough? Now you gotta escape to dream about getting improvements from tech you don't understand and have no business meddling into?
>>320798564
>Humanity has consistently pushed limits, but we've always maintained the human condition.
Because we didn't have the technology to go beyond it at the time.
The fact that we've never done something before isn't a reason to not do it now.
What exactly is the "cost" of becoming superhuman?
>>320798729
> from tech you don't understand and have no business meddling into?
Me am play gods! Me go to far!!!!!
>>320798687
>>320795520
>Would you still be human though?
Why would I care about the answer? "Being human" doesn't hold any special meaning for me.
>>320798564
>but the cost of that is too severe for us as a race
You're just talking out your ass at this point. The idea that we as humans will suddenly abandon our humanity as soon as we get robo limbs is silly. We're not talking about turning every single human into a robot, we're talking about people getting improved bionic limbs/eyes/organs etc. that improve their quality of life. To be human is to constantly try to make things better for yourself, augmentations are part of that.
>>320790664
>get cybernetic eyes
>never quite the same as your original eyes
>constantly motion sick
>kill or blind yourself within a month
Sounds great
>All these people who doesn't hold humanity as something special
What is this, fedora tipping club?
>>320799065
Typical Purity First trogdolyte. They have no actual points so they spout empty rhetoric to try and sway people.
>>320799178
>never quite the same as your original eyes
>constantly motion sick
Boy, you sure are making a lot of assumptions.
>>320799225
>All these people who hold humanity as something special
What is this, theology club?
>>320799178
Yeah, maybe if you get them from some back-alley schmuck who literally just scooped your old ones out with a pair of tongs. Human augments would be tested on for a hell of a long time before becoming available to the general public and affordable to the average man, and on top of that not everyone gets motion sick easily. Nice assumptions though, faggot.
I would synthetically enhance my penis.
I could control when it grows on will and can expand in length approximately 24 ft maximum which would also serve as a beating stick to fend off enemies.
>>320792561
muh same fucking face
I'd get literally everything except my brain completely replaced with synthetic parts. I don't trust the concept of "downloading your brain" onto a hard drive. Seems to me like too big of a risk that your consciousness would be erased and replaced with a copy, with no one ever knowing. I'd never use a teleporter for the same reason.
>>320799225
Humanity is just a concept, and one that's advanced and changed as time goes on. We've always been making ways to go beyond our limitations, and augmentations are no different.
If augs became normal and common, i bet every single faggot here would scream REEEEE at augged people.
If we're using Deus Ex augs, I wouldn't touch them until they advanced past the Human Revolution stage, to the point where neuropozyne was no longer necessary.
After that I'd go full Ghost in the Shell and just stick my brain in a cybernetic body.
>>320799923
>If we're using Deus Ex augs, I wouldn't touch them until they advanced past the Human Revolution stage, to the point where neuropozyne was no longer necessary.
I hope you picked the Sarif ending :^)
I'd likely replace my jaws and teeth if I had to replace anything. Maybe add more points of vision or finally have a normal sense of smell.
I would rather use non-intrusive tech until limbs\organs fail or become vastly outpaced by tech. I've always wanted to hook up an Emotive Epoch to a quadcopter, a voice synthesizer, or some extra arms.
>>320799869
>i bet every single faggot here would scream REEEEE at augged people.
>Well over half the thread is in favor of augmentation and wants some themselves
okay
>>320800041I did
>>320790592everything
>>320800150
Well, good.
>>320800079
>>Well over half the thread is in favor of augmentation and wants some themselves
That's the thing. They want it, until Chad Normie gets them. Then they're gonna pretend they never asked for it and start considering everyone with augs as filthy normies edging their way into the secret club
>>320790957
name of the artist? i can read that swirly shit
>>320800223
>Then they're gonna pretend they never asked for it
Heh
>>320798693
>>320798816
There's a variety of costs associated with augmentations (as well as AI and Androids). They are as follows
>the creation of superior creatures that may deem us unworthy of life for whatever reason
>the concept of corporate ownership
>the blurring of the lines between reality and the digital world
>the value of human life bottoming out compared to that of a cyborg or android
>the value of human life becoming blurred in general
>discrimination on a whole nother level
I wrote an essay on this: http://pastebin.com/dYeHPcht
>>320799065
Humans don't give a fuck the rules something has, we are rulebreakers by nature. Sure, robolimbs could help us with a bunch of things, but they could also do horrible things. Robocop saved tons of people, but RoboCain threatened to kill just as many.
>>320800223
>We're all forced to get those lanky, skeleton augs that look like shit while Chad gets Jensen augs
Truly this isn't the future we asked for.
>>320790957
hey thanks for posting that. i get a tear every time i watch that.
have some more cool vids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPhkVPNKtVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qUPnnROxvY
>>320800079
I read that post as
>I only played Human Revolution cause it looked cool and didn't talk to any of the people in world or care about the sidequests
>>320800484
>>the creation of superior creatures that may deem us unworthy of life for whatever reason
Augmentations and AI are two separate things.
>>the concept of corporate ownership
Corporations are only a couple steps away from owning us anyway.
>>the blurring of the lines between reality and the digital world
Elaborate.
>>the value of human life bottoming out compared to that of a cyborg or android
Human lives already have dollar values attached to them. There are already a bunch of inanimate objects worth more than you are.
>>the value of human life becoming blurred in general
Elaborate
>>discrimination on a whole nother level
How many more levels are there? This one is hard to imagine.
>>320790592
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
AUGIES GET OUT!
>>320790664
>cyber eyes
I'd get one. I don't wanna get blind if someone hacks my eyes or some EMP bullshit happens
>>320800484
Gonna be honest, I quit reading that essay at the point where God was brought into it.
>>320800504
>you will never have a cute augmented GF
why continue this painful existence
>>320801227
>>320801528
>>320801613
That's all the aug shit I have sadly
Someone wanna post more?
>>320801512
>hacks my eyes
This is such an unfounded fear for augments.
Just get eyes that don't have any way to connect to the Internet. Even if all augments were "always online" (which I seriously doubt) people would still be able to mod them in order to return offline functionality.
I'd probably pass on it until I needed some kind of replacement, like if I got liver cancer or something. I like my body the way it is.
>>320801528
That first design gives me some ma Gantz vibes
>>320801784
They were able to remotely trigger stimuli in people's brains to make them hallucinate to the point of insanity. Who's to say they can't do worse?
>>320801523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvAUmQBqhRU
>>320801784
It's just one of the more goofy elements of cyberpunk fiction that people take seriously for some reason. In cyberpunk EVERYTHING is always online because it makes the hacking theme more interesting, no matter how unrealistic it is. Although even Ghost in the Shell has an offline mode.
Watch Dogs was the pinnacle of that, where apparently things like grenades and steam pipes all had internet connections.
>>320801994
What the hell are you talking about?
>>320802094
I'm sorry I forgot to mention I was talking about human revolution.
>>320802094
I think he means the end of Human Revolution. Which is a stupid point to make because doing that relied on the most suspicious hardware upgrade ever.
>>320801784
EMP is still a threat tho. In the end do you really need both eyes augumented?
>>320790592
I'd aug everything full robot not even save my brain I don't care if I wont be human. I don't want to have these human feels anymore.
>>320802228
It's only suspicious to you because you're part of the conspiracy in that game. All the general populace is lining up for the new biochip.
>>320801137
>Augmentations and AI are two separate things.
Both are discussed in Deus Ex and also go hand in hand.
>Corporations are only a couple steps away from owning us anyway.
Yeah but imagine being forced to exist because of that. Watch Robocop again, its a great movie about such an idea.
>Human lives already have dollar values attached to them. There are already a bunch of inanimate objects worth more than you are.
Yeah but they can't do things we can do. Can a robot perform advanced surgery /by itself/? Because once that becomes possible human surgeons become unneeded, as a robot can do it better and doesn't require years of training. The angsty teen in the UK tv show Humans talks about this exact topic.
>How many more levels are there?
Yeah it is a bit weird to say levels in this context.
>This one is hard to imagine.
Is it though? In Deus Ex you see humans hating Augs, and Augs hating humans. There are emails that talk about farmers suing for the right to amputate themselves so they can compete with their aug competition.
>elaborate on the blurring of the lines between the digital and the physical
You can see examples of this in Ghost In The Shell 2 Gig. Various characters hack the eyes of others to change what they see to their own advantage.
You'll also be faced with waifufags who get their eyes auged just so they can see hatsune miku in what they believe is real life.
>elaborate on the value of human life becoming blurred
Where do you draw the line on cyberized people? Does a brain in a jar still count as a person? Does a self aware AI count as a person? What about those who have been reanimated through technology eg Robocop or Universal Soldier?
>>320801513
I only talk about it once really, excluding the quote.
>>320790592
A couple of inches on the dick. Maybe a less narrow urethra and some spunk boosters.
>>320800237
http://salvadortrakal.deviantart.com/art/Cyberpunk-Nights-2-0-421055121?q=gallery%3ASalvadorTrakal%2F18533424&qo=46
>>320802372
Nigga in real life people are suspicious of upgrades. Look at Windows 10. Only iPhone owning idiots care about being the first one to get the new thing.
>>320802281
>EMP
If im in a situation where I'd get EMP'd im more than likely going to end up fucked either way
>>320796136
Nah just asthma. Ironic cause I'm a saxophonist. But might as well be able to play whole tones for minutes, right?
>>320802575
you have to imagine that when more and more people get augs EMPs are an easy solution to taking a person down and they'd get more popular.
>>320802384
>and also go hand in hand
Says who? It was my impression that the argument was originally about human augmentation and you brought up artificial intelligence for no reason.
That being said,
>Where do you draw the line on cyberized people? Does a brain in a jar still count as a person?
Any sapient being counts as a person.
>>320802575
It's possible to build small devices specifically for the purpose of causing local EMPs. They just aren't seen very often because they're not currently super useful.
>>320802568
Unfortunately the general populace isn't as smart as you or I.
>>320802793
>>Where do you draw the line on cyberized people? Does a brain in a jar still count as a person?
>Any sapient being counts as a person.
What defines something as being sapient? The computer you're typing at is infinitely smart than you in terms of what it's capable of, but does that make it a person?
>>320802228
>>320802372
Was anyone actually tricked by that shit on their first playthrough? An upgrade being pushed super hard in a game about conspiracies is a huge red flag to anyone with a brain.
>>320790592
Jensen shades because I particularly like my eyes but I still need corrective vision. Plus an IRL HUD would be cool.
Replacement left arm so it could be as proficient as my right, plus having a compartment space to put important shit in so if someone tries to mug me they'll literally have to take my strong af robot arm.
No brain enhancements if I can avoid it, because if something goes wrong there, it's all over.
Just a neural uplink, and live in the digital world as much as possible.
>>320803176
No, but I did pick it the second time to see what happens. Only to cheese the fight by knocking namir out.
>>320803073
>What defines something as being sapient?
The capacity for metacognition.
>>320802384
>Both are discussed in Deus Ex
So? That doesn't intrinsically tie them together any more than it means aumentations and the illuminati must be tied together
>Yeah but imagine being forced to exist because of that. Watch Robocop again, its a great movie about such an idea.
No, it's dumb. If I buy a car the corporation that made it can't tell me where to drive. There's no reason to believe augmented parts would work any differently. Even if they had some really specific Terms of Use a judge could strike it down.
>Yeah but they can't do things we can do. Can a robot perform advanced surgery /by itself/? Because once that becomes possible human surgeons become unneeded, as a robot can do it better and doesn't require years of training. The angsty teen in the UK tv show Humans talks about this exact topic.
This line of thnking has been proven wrong time and again. Every time robots take away one job, they create another. All you can do is draw arbitrary lines where "this time it's different!"
>Is it though? In Deus Ex you see humans hating Augs, and Augs hating humans. There are emails that talk about farmers suing for the right to amputate themselves so they can compete with their aug competition.
The point was, without cyberaugs we already had a ton of genocides and shit. I don't see how discrimination is going to get any worse than genocide. Or how it could.
>You can see examples of this in Ghost In The Shell 2 Gig. Various characters hack the eyes of others to change what they see to their own advantage.
Another poster already addressed this.
>You'll also be faced with waifufags who get their eyes auged just so they can see hatsune miku in what they believe is real life.
Who cares?
>Where do you draw the line on cyberized people?
Pretty simple honestly. The psyche resides in the brain.
>>320790592
Replace both knees. One augmented eye and just get lasik on the other. Maybe replace my hands if osteoarthritis sets in or my cartilage just starts wearing away again.
>>320803176
I assumed it was a trick but still picked it because I figured it would lead to some sort of sidequest or otherwise make something interesting happen.
As it turned out, not really. Although it didn't really make the boss fight much harder, I pretty much beat him by sitting in cover and blindfiring explosive revolver shots around the corner until he died. It basically just meant I had to finally use some of the revolver ammo I'd been stockpiling instead of instantly wrecking him with the Typhoon like the other bosses.
>>320803242
>mfw they fixed that bug in Director's Cut
Of all the things to remove, you fix the best glitch in the game?
>>320803073
> The computer you're typing at is infinitely smart than you in terms of what it's capable of, but does that make it a person?
No it isn't. A PC is made of logic gates. A human brain is a neural net. Two different types of computers with different strengths and weaknesses.
>>320803643
>he wasted praxis points on the typhoon
>>320790592
Probably would start with a new heart. My current one doesn't function very well, can't pump blood very effectively. And while I'm at it, a new set of lungs as well.
Ocular implants would be nice, or just new eyes. Muscle enhancements next along with a new bone structure, or possibly just mechanical parts all over.
Other organ replacement would probably be last.
>>320804131
It takes next to no points and is totally worth it just to effectively skip the shitty boss battles, especially in the non-Director's Cut version.
>>320804373
Throw barrels at barrett
Drop mines at your feet when federova chases you
Punch namir
Ez
>>320804614
Or I could just walk up to them and spam the Typhoon until they stop moving.
>>320804757
Or you could not spend the praxis and still cheese just as easily
>>320804895
>>320804757
Or people can just play the game how they want and theres no right or wrong way.
>>320805026
Where the fuck do you think you are?
>>320802575
>>320802757
We are already upgrading systems to be immune to EMPs. By the time we have augmented dog cocks with super-sonic knot technology, the Chinese can hack the sun to blast out 100 EMPs per second, and they wouldn't do shit to my hot knot.
replace my left arm and leg. get the eyes replaced, put a sword somewhere
>>320802891
Tipped. The sheeple will never understand what you and i know.
>>320790592
I want robo-ears so I can stop having tinnitus
Other than that I'm not sure
>>320807369
*nods respectfully in your direction*
I concur, my esteemed colleague
Mechanical augmentations is far more trouble than its worth compared to organic ones.
You have no self-repair or self maintainence capabilities. So you are fucking screwed if you have to be survive in isolated or hostile environment, especially with the lack of supplies.
In typical cases you have to constantly spend a fortune for the upkeep
Your parts become easily outdated to the point where your hardware no longer receive support.
Mechanical augmentation is fucking crude and primitive as hell. Its like trying to make a car powered by child labor, flying by dynamite explosions, taking a car door so you can 'cool' yourself by cranking open the window.
Basically the machine and body interaction is fucking subpar and inefficient
>>320808846
>In typical cases you have to constantly spend a fortune for the upkeep
It wouldn't be commercially viable for people who aren't accident victims until this changed
>Your parts become easily outdated to the point where your hardware no longer receive support.
People change out their phones every 2-3 years and cars every 5-10 years. Why not limbs?
>>320790592
All of them. I am the robot
>>320808846
>You have no self-repair or self maintainence capabilities
But remember also that mechanical limbs are sturdier than organic ones. In a situation in which an organic arm could be sliced open, a metal arm would shrug off the blade, making the skin's healing factor irrelevant. In a situation in which an organic arm would have a bone broken, you'd go to a hospital to get it fixed anyway, making the trip to a maintenance shop to fix a mechanical arm broken as a result of the same trauma no worse than that.
The only situation in which the biological healing factor for a limb would be a serious advantage is if you happened to be stranded in the wilderness and break your arm. You then set the bone by yourself and fashion a sling, stay trapped in the wilderness for the months it'd require to heal, after which you can use it again.
In that situation, yeah I guess the guy with the mechanical arm would have egg on his face.
>>320790592
Reflex enhancements, first and easily.
>>320810041
>being stranded in the wilderness
>ever
Who the fuck does this?
>>320790592
god damn HR has a good soundtrack
What enhancements slows or stop age?
>>320810826
White people do, when the foreign hordes take over
>>320812285
Death
>>320812285
Gene therapy.
Speaking of which, I'm somewhat more psyched about biological augmentation than mechanical augmentation.
Definitely eye augmentation as my eyes are pretty fucked. Also possibly some sort of neural implant that would make learning easier and more effective.
>>320795920
>>320795470
If you replace your entire brain, you'd literally br killing yourself.
You cant transfer the essence of your conscience. The best you can do is make a perfect replica of it and upload it to a machine. But the original you would be destroyed once that brain is discarded.
>>320809174
This.
>>320812879
What if you, bit by bit, replace organic parts of your brain with mechanical analogs? Barring the discovery of a single definitive part of the brain that holds a person's entire consciousness, who could say at what point during the gradual replacement you ceased to be you?
>>320812879
The way we understand brains right now, it's possible for someone to operate and maintain memories and knowledge with removal of some of their brain tissue.
Who is to say you couldn't get a synthetic brain expansion that your body will favor to your old tissue, and "you" will be copied into that as your old neurons die?
Your brain now is not the same one you had 5 years ago, anon. You probably shat out the last of your younger self last night for all you know.
>>320790592
everything but my brain, augs would have to be stupidly advanced before i would even consider though, if it isnt a hundred times better than organic then theres no point
>>320813141
We dont know enough about the brain yo answer that question. I certainly dont. Its a good point though.
>>320813185
Yeah, that sounds feasible. Not sure how much of it is BS but it makes sense. Would just take some clever engineering.
But thered always be that thought in the back of your mind
>Am I me?
>>320799553
This anon gets it. Agreed on the teleporter too
>>320790592
Don't know if I'd even want them. I could understand if you have an injury or disease but otherwise there's not much good reason to replace good meat with chrome. I seriously doubt augs would come without chronic pain or other inconveniences.
>>320798816
>>What exactly is the "cost" of becoming superhuman?
Crippling debt unless you're already wealthy
post augmented gfs
>>320813867
>Crippling debt
You know computers used to be unfathomably expensive as well, for the average person. Now everyone above the lower-middle class has one.
>>320790592
Eyes, internal organs, maybe a reinforced spine, and possibly some neural implants.
>>320790592
Muscular augs including the heart, eyes aug too.
Fix my teeth yo
And some brain shit
>>320813994
>You know computers used to be unfathomably expensive as well, for the average person. Now everyone above the lower-middle class has one
Oh man you're right! Good thing the price of surgery has gone down so much that the average person can easily afford an organ transplant
>>320814307
the price of surgery and treatment has gone down more than tenfold
that's US, those are gouged prices in a broken system.
A $60,000 surgery in the US can be done at the same level of quality in Thailand for $1,000
>>320814307
>theres no way more private clinics would open up to cater to individuals that want a specific niche surgery
also
>comparing organs transplants that are scarce and hard to come by in the nick of time as well as being compatible being anywhere in the same realm as a prosthetic that reads ghost nerve signals
fucking idiot
>>320790592
Neural and eyes implants for me.
>>320790592
I'd augment my dick.
>>320814307
Surgery is expensive in America because the doctors charge that much because they can.
I'd guarantee you that the price of surgical equipment has indeed gone down.
>>320814893
>expensive because they can
>wahhh doctor s charge alot of money for surgery because theyre mean and want people to die
I really fucking hope this isnt what youre thinking but thats how im reading it
>>320813435
>That's bullshit, but I believe it
Anon uses the 7-year cell replacement myth to support the claim. The truth is that brain cells are not replaced, but more do grow in over time.
To replace a brain, one would have to deep-scan the entirety of the neural network and feed the results into a synthetic container capable of preserving that information, then attach that container to a machine capable of simulating the brain, then attach that machine to the body's nervous system.
It's a very complex procedure, and you would indeed not be yourself. The old brain (you) would be discarded.
Alternatively, an iterative approach has been proposed for this hypothetical, wherein portions of the brain are removed and replaced with simulacra.
This would be a gradual enough process that no shock should occur, and the chunks of brain removed would not necessarily be "the consciousness" (as it's only a small portion).
Whether there is memory loss depends on the technology that exists to copy what is in those sections of the brain to the simulacra.
>>320814506
So you're going to get some knockoff Chinese augs? Otherwise you'd probably be paying out the ass for augs produced outside the country you're getting the surgery done in.
>>320814530
The cost of the organ is a fraction of the total price for the op.
>>320814994
I don't think ill of them for it.
But isn't it true that, if they wanted to, they could perform surgeries for a meager salary and reduce the price of surgery by a great amount?
It's their right to charge what they like for their services, but it is still a fact that surgery is expensive mostly in order to cover salaries.
>>320815145
we're talking about a product thats a prototype in the OP
and we're also talking about fictional future where the common man would amputate an appendage for a prosthetic
if it got to that point you could afford it
hell theres 3D printable robotic prosthetic arms for amputees that is quite effective and also cheap
organs however are gonna be expensive because its more delicate of a procedure to repair something or replace something with a foreign organ that may not fit, be compatible or whatnot
the only reason the OP costs alot even is because he had it custom modeled for him using specific tools to tailor it, which is why it costs soo much they're including the price of the machines that calibrate his leg once in the overall price
>>320815241
>to cover salaries
It's actually to cover liability.
The most inflexibly expensive parts of an organ transplant are the organ itself and the equipment used during the operation.
The doctor could take almost nothing, but because people are sue-happy, especially in the US, and much can go wrong with complex procedures, they must hike prices to discourage casual surgery and protect themselves in the event they are sued by someone for a mistake or death.
>>320815241
>for a meager salary
your gonna tell someone straight faced to be a 4.0 student and waste 4 years of undergrad not to mention high school before that studying then 4 years of medical then 2 years of residency while being in student debt of around 1million, thats not a stretch btw if you go ivy league its gonna cost that much
and then after mal practice insurance and hospital politics to perform a 6-16 hr surgery to work for peanuts you gotta be outta your fucking mind
hell alot of my friends in med school are dropping it do to the ACA since private practices are gonna be non existant and becoming a mcdonalds style doctor of flipping through patients is not what they signed up for
tl;dr
>surgery is expensive to cover salaries
doctors have a shit ton of loans to pay off and wasted their youth studying as well as paying for mal practice insurance its not a beautiful lifestyle to work shit hours and make 250k when programmers do less and make more for less of a committed academic career
>>320790592
Augmented ears for built in headphones.
Maybe augmented eyes, because mine are a bit shit.
Wouldn't want to replace anything that I can improve naturally, like arms, heart or legs.Two dicks
>>320815713
I didn't say that the doctor's reasons for wanting such a salary were not justified. But it doesn't make my statement any less true.
>>320790592
Cyber snake tail. Half man, half snake. Also, eye implants for heat vision, synthetic jacobsob organ in my mouth, venom glands etc... probably synthetic arms for added choking power..
>>320815713
>programmers do less and make more for less of a committed academic career
And now their field is saturated to the point that only those with an education and experience rivaling most MDs can make as much.
They even have it worse, as tech companies are unwilling to hire full-time (who needs an on-call programmer?), partially due to this saturation and over-availability of tech products and software on the market.
Equilibrium in all things, brother.
>>320815882
your kinda ignoring my points though
-malpractice inisurance
-student loans needing to be paid
-time it takes to do a surgery and the stress involved
also not exactly true in your statement as its not up to the surgeon but rather the hospital
>>320816037
>experience rivaling most MDs
maybe in specific areas but the word is for each of my friends from 4 year uni in no name wiisconsin all managed to get 90k paying jobs starting
one of them is making 150k after 8 months and is now leading his own project and was offered more last week
5 friends all gettinig paid quite well and only one was exceptionally smart
>>320814506
>>320815145
Actually Chinese knockoffs were a weak point I was attempting due to ignorance of transplant tourism. Surely if you did your research well you could get your augs done safely for the price of a nice car rather than a house. Otherwise your shit could seriously get fucked up according to this study about transplant tourism. Pretty interesting
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17198255
>>320815417
bro classism enhanced via augs is standard cyberpunk shit. The rich and the poor will be divided more than ever with the proliferation of augs. If you don't think people will find ways to keep augs expensive to maintain debt slavery on the poor I think you're crazy. The drugs used during the op and post-op would probably be like 99% cost and I assume the price of the meat cleaving itself wouldn't be so bad.
Docs would probs be able to do their work remotely so 24/7 clinics could be employed by surgeons on the net
>>320815991
Scalefags, please go
>>320816185
And when those projects are done or tank, they'll be off job-hunting again.
The life of a programmer is one of revolving doors.
>not going full cyborg
disappointed in you all
>>320816189
>drugs used post-op
>needing drugs for something that fits over skin and doesnt integrate into the nervous system
thats what the OP one does and most ghost signal receiving prosthetics
also this iisnt something new with placing artificial parts iinto people, the only thing that would be new would be reading neuron signalling faster and giving feedback
giving feedback is the hard part since at the moment things are only being read and theres no direct pseudo nerve from machine back into hosts
and even then your assuming we'd need a drug to allow constant acclimation of invasive objects into people when thats just not a proven truth with current artifical bones and grafts
>>320790592
I'm not sure I'd be able to afford it. I want to have a robotic body of cute teen girl so I can work for police as the ultimate pedohunter.
>>320816272
>The life of a programmer is one of revolving doors
>mfw I heard the story about how the guys that built the online Netflix service got coerced into quitting shortly after helping the company move away from the mail order dvd rental model
http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/08/28/435583328/episode-647-hard-work-is-irrelevant
Netflix sounds like a fucking nightmare to work for
Brain for tinitus
Eyes so I can see in the dark without obvious noise and to avoid eye strain forever
Feet so I will never ever get blisters from running.
>>320790592
full loli body replacement
>>320816272
>they'll be off job-hunting again
I mean if your not iimproving your own worth by learning the evolving field maybe I assume, otherwise please explain why you feel this is the case or is an actuality
>>320816851
A software company does not hire for keeps unless they are key members of the design team.
They hire the most of the best they can find, use them until the product is done, then fire them all unless a planned follow-up requires their skill (then they're put on unpaid leave until they're needed).
Tech and medical are very different fields in this way.
A doctor will always have patients, a programmer is guaranteed nothing and careers are largely unsustainable unless they operate as consultants, and that will make them less desirable for regular employment in the long-run.
They write themselves out of work, then either look for more work elsewhere or pray a friend within the company calls them with a new opportunity.
>>320803195
Aren't there gangs in the game that kidnap augs for their synth limbs in game? This shit would be fucking terrifying. Like just cause you have a few limb augs, doesn't mean you're combat ready, and it might be comparatively easier to just kill you and take your augs than to have to deal with some super-human fuck just flailing around potentially hurting people.
Reinforced spine, cybernetic heart and either dermal plating to throat and other vulnerable places or nanomachines that can stop internal and external bleeding quickly, even in arteries.
Also reinforced skull.
That way I wouldn't have too obvious stuff, yet I'd be a lot more resilient.
>>320802405
>less narrow urethra
You can fix that yourself.
>>320816584
>NPR glorifying revolving door employment
>laughs at employees who have been pressured out of work and will never be able to retire
>fuck your loyalty, but it's ok that we do this as long as the companies survive!
Why am I not surprised?
