Which games deserve remakes?
too bad level 5 doesn't give a fuck about their only good series
>Zelda ALttP (On ALBW engine)
>Hell, Zelda I and II too, rebuild them from scratch
>Xenosagas HD remakes
>MG1-MG2
>Shantae
>FFVI (A proper one, not iOS shit, more like DS FFs)
>>320781757
Man just think of how great that High Definition chair model is gonna look.
>>320781757
is that potato's ancestor on the lower right?
>>320781757
Do you mean deserve to be completed?
>>320781757
Absolutely, a complete xenogears with disc 2 done is needed
>>320784564
Already got one (two?)
>>320782005
Nah, only if it's bundled with 2
>>320781757
Better OP
let's give the game a end
Would you really want a xenogears remake done by people who had nothing to do with the original?
>>320782005
rather just a third dark cloud, desu.
>>320782005
>dat cover art
Fucking zelda ripoffs.
>>320784931
No
Let it be a joint work with nintendo (monolith) plus square
I'm an idort so I don't give a shit what system it's on
Don't even care about remakes, just release them all as a collection or digitally.
>>320785129
>implying monolith want to see square face again
>>320785298
Rather square than namco
>>320785090
the game's nothing like zelda tho
SaGa Frontier. Much like Xenogears, it's on the verge of greatness but blatantly unfinished.
>>320785454
First impression is what counts they say.
With Nintendo and Squenix getting more buddy-buddy over the last couple of years, a Super Mario RPG remake would moisten a lot of trousers.
>>320785539
Seeing how they do SaGa remakes I say the entire series. Would like to get a Romancing SaGa 2 and 3 remake as well.
>>320785570
naw you just a retard you you think anyone wearing green = zelda
>>320781757
I would say games that were potentially really fun but had really annoying aspects to them. Like Legends of Dragoons lack of traversable world map. Xenogears' 3rd disc is a good reason for a remake. Games like FFVII where the graphics are that shitty form of 3d are good candidates too.
>>320782354
Games like Legend of Zelda and FFVI don't feel like they can really be improved much in their current form.
>>320785625
Yeah, it would be pretty amazing if they were able to handle remaking Romancing SaGa 2 and 3 as well as they did the original. Minstrel Song was a whole lot better than I expected.
>>320785090
>Dark Cloud
>anything like Zelda at all
zelda's an action-adventure and dark cloud's a JRPG dungen crawler with city building, senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y75VIza0D9U
>>320781757
>>320786042
Yabeh/deus isn't even god, it's demiurge
>>320786257
The image says false god.
>>320786042
... fuck. I actually never knew Deus was created by man. fuck. I thought it was just another Lavos/Jenova sort of thing.
>>320781757
I just got into this game recently. Still at the beginning. But I have to say, it's pretty impressive what it does on a playstation. I love the way they construct the maps. And the sprites are top quality. Why don't more people make games this way? Why isn't this design the nee retro for indie game devs to exploit? Seems relatively easy to make with today's tools.
>Why don't more people make games this way? Why isn't this design the nee retro for indie game devs to exploit? Seems relatively easy to make with today's tools.
Because Soraya Saga won't be the one writing the story. It would be shit.
2nd one was the best
>>320787158
The textures at the beginning of the game (Lahan, Forest, Dazil) all look great
The rest of the game varies wildly, Kislev is ~ a 50 pixel sprite tiled flat on the ground
>>320787459
>>320787551
I don't know how to respond to that.
Cool name drop, bro.
>>320787727
>Cool name drop
wut
>>320781757
After seeing how they are fucking the FF7 remake I wouldn't want to see those assholes lay a finger on Xenogears.
>>320787808
The act of inserting the name of any obscure cultural institution into a conversation in an effort to accelerate the building of rapport with someone, or to make one's self appear to be more important. Typically considered by intelligent people to be a negative habit.
Here is an example of name dropping in context.
"I totally saw this guy I used to work with at the Bright Eyes show last tuesday!"
With the intended response being:
"woah, you listen to Bright Eyes!?"
One more example
"I was getting off the train and my Don Delillo book fell right out of my bag and onto the tracks!!!"
Good games don't need to be remade
>>320784687
They haven't remade it for the ps4, and I don't have a ps3 to get it on. They need to remake the second one too before the 3rd comes out.
>>320785132
I would actually hurt someone for this.
>>320787952
The fuck are you talking about? You asked why people don't copy the Xenogears model. Saga wrote a great majority of it.
>>320786042
So what is Deus? The intro had some guys carrying him through space and he took over the ship and blahblahblah reinvented humanity on the planet they crash landed on to fix himself.
But what was it exactly?
>>320788121
I was commenting on the way the game was constructed from a technical perspective. Not the way it was written. Saga's writing ability doesn't pertain to what I was talking about.
If another indie dev came along, and didn't know fuck all about good narrative, they could still replicate the architecture of the game's design.
>>320788295
http://xenosaga.wikia.com/wiki/Deus
Just replace Deus with "jews", if you want to understand what Takahashi was trying to convey.
>>320788537
>they could still replicate the architecture of the game's design
and it would be shit, just like every indie game
>>320788837
Not every indie game. Some games get it right. Like Shovel Knight, Axiom Verge, andUndertale.
Now imagine if they were inspired by Xenogears. They'd have something neat there.
Vagrant Story.
>>320787298
How do I get into fire emblem?
Like strong story would be appreciated, but I'm honestly just looking for tactical gameplay
I have access to Gameboy Advanced, and original DS
>>320788121
The plot of Xenogears sucks, is full of gay, dramatic loaded words
What makes the game halfway appealing is that remnant live a live / smrpg / chrono trigger presentation / aesthetic
>>320789215
I got in with Path of Radiance, but the just 7 is perfectly fine to start with.
>>320789215
Play Fire Emblem 7 and the Sacred Stones. Then maybe Shadow Dragon.
Then get back to your PC and emulate the old entries.
>>320789429
>the localization which had 1/3rd the space to convey what was originally written in japanese, had "gay, dramatic loaded words"
ok anon
>>320789429
>Fag who only read the fucking synopsis from wiki and watched a play through on youtube
>being so much of a corporate toesucker that you would buy a game that is 100.0% rehashed with nothing new to offer but graphics
>>320789429
I tried playing Xenogears but dropped it shortly after reaching that junk salvaging ship because the plot was mediocre and the gameplay was ass. Does it get better or is it just overrated?
>>320789509
>>320789449
Is #7 just called Fire Emblem in English?
I'm assuming it's one of those series that was popular/only available in Japan for the first 6 games?
>>320781757
xenogears was shit
ruined by boring mech battles
how do youf uck up this bad
>>320789682
Loaded words is an idiom
Though it's also literally loaded with words, none of which are particularly interesting
>>320789932
Yes. Linked here >>320787298
>>320789909
It gets better pretty much all the way to disc 2. Then it's pretty much story for most of it.
>>320790015
localization isn't plot, though
>>320790074
Thank you very much
>>320790191
If possible I still recommend you emulate Path of Radiance and then Radiant Dawn if possible.
Thanks to the style of games, they're extremely easy to play with a keyboard. Both emulate very well and look better than on their respective consoles.
>>320789898
IT AINT ME
>>320790323
I'll try. GC emulator is dolphin right? I don't think I've used used a wii one before. I could probably go purchase a wii for cheap though
BLOOD in Unreal Engine 4. Someone make it happen.
>>320790696
Dolphin emulates both GC and Wii amigo
>>320788295
Deus is an interplanetary weapon system. Grahf wanted to use Deus to destroy the world. And the Jews in Xenogears are really the Gazel Ministry. They believe that they are Deus' chosen people and it is their right to reunite with Deus to rule the world and other planets. The Lambs and Solarians (goyim) are nothing more than cattle for Deus' rebirth. Humanity had been nearly wiped out a few times before the present-day events in Xenogears because humanity hadn't reached a peak evolution yet to be flesh for Deus.
>>320791180
Is the game seriously meant to be an allegory for the jews and goyim?
>>320791180
Didn't Krelian also put mental limiters on the lambs so they would not remember the truth about the lambs rising up against Solaris? Reminds me of a certain event you are not allowed to question and everyone believes unconditionally.
>>320790696
Dolphin is the one stop shop.
I'm usually retarded with most computer related things, but both were very easy to emulate for me, so if you have the computer power its quite easy.
>>320791479
70%+ of the game's characters/towns names are Hebrew, though a lot were changed in the localization.
If I were to win the lottery, my first order of business would be to buy the rights to Xenogears from Square and hand them right the fuck over to Monolith.
I WILL see to it that your dreams can be realized, Takahashi-san
>>320791479
/v/ and /pol/ have a lot more crossover than you think.
>>320791479
It's kind of hard to not take it that way when it's pretty obvious. The game has a ton of religious references.
>>320791547
Did the limiters block their memory of the Solaris War? I know it blocked their own powers and you can't learn the 7 AP Deathblows until Citan takes you to Solaris to remove the Limiters.
>>320791745
Thanks to the Japanese.
>>320791479
>>320791751
>>320791479
>Is the game seriously meant to be an allegory for the jews and goyim?
Dues, who was literally named Yahweh in the original, controls the entire planet through a false religion, which in the original is "The Church". "The Church" hoards secret information and rapes children. Solaris, who's populace is completely oblivious to what's going on in the outside world(think US) because they have a completely decadent society with endless distractions, is controlled by Miang, the servant of Yahweh, and causes proxy wars all over warring desert nations by providing weapons to enemies of any nation that is currently on the losing side, which then leads to even more wars.
japanese do not do allegory
>>320792940
>japanese do not do allegory
They do when it's localization team begs them to change most of the direct insinuations because of fear of "reprisal" from religious groups.
see the the interview in >>320786042
>>320792587
And they are eventually stopped by a vessel of the true god (Donald Trump)
>>320781757
Remake? How about they give us the full series.
>>320792587
>Miang, the servant of Yahweh, and causes proxy wars all over warring desert nations by providing weapons to enemies of any nation that is currently on the losing side, which then leads to even more wars.
Miang even manipulated Lacan into becoming Grahf and lead him to the Zohar where Lacan learned the truth about his reincarnations and that Elly always has and always will die for him. The truth broke him and he sought out a Gear of legendary power that would wipe out about 94% of humanity IIRC.
>>320786257
yeah, but Yahweh is a demiurge isn't it?
>>320793229Is Xenoblade Chronicles X Episode 1 of Perfect Works? I heard that it was, but I haven't gotten around to completing chapter 12 of the story yet.
>>320793116
Well, it's Fei in game, who is a reference of a Chinese hero who sought western civilization for China. Also, Fei's love, Elhaym, which is derived from "Eli", meaning "God", is the anti-Yahweh.
>>320793348
Miang is the only competent person in Xenogears
THE ONLY ONE
>>320793680
>Miang is the only competent person in Xenogears
Because she has 10000 years of memories, anon. That's 10000 years of experience and knowledge. Sorta cheating.
>>320793680
>Not Shitan
>That smug motherfucker
>>320793229
>yfw Takahashi's main purpose in life is waking up the goyim and turning them into the Samurai
>>320793680
You forgot Citan (literally Jesus)
how accurate is this, anons?
>>320793680
>forgetting about the guy who was a Solaris Guardian Angel and received orders directly from Emperor Cain himself to watch over the reincarnation of The Contact
>>320781757
this game deserves a retranslation more than anything else. it is without peers the worst translation I've seen in a game held with such high regards.
>>320794231
i agree. and I wish they would just clean up the sprites and do disk 2 proper. no fancy graphics and shit.
>>320794027
>Abel - first son of Adam and Eve. Was killed by his brother Cain out of jealousy.
>Abel rose up against Cain when he began to control humanity and Cain killed him and Elly.
>>320781757
>>320794363
>Soylent Green
Fucking hell. I knew that was going to happen when Citan didn't eat the food in the factory and it still felt bad.
>>320794363
>what i got
Thank you Takahashi, for going over budget and running out of time.
Thank you localization team, for taking most of the references out of the game, but leaving just enough as to cause mass confusion over what is really trying to be conveyed.
>>320794728
hey man, they were turning into horrible suffering and insane monsters might as well eat them.
>>320794728
>>320794857
>hey man, they were turning into horrible suffering and insane monsters might as well eat them.
Those "monsters" are what actually kept all of the -lambs-, as well as solaris's citizens, under the limiter's effect.
>>320794363
>Maria's battle sprite
Why was it so much worse than the others?
Final Fantasy 6
>>320794732
>blowing your budget on anime cutscenes that didn't even look that great
bravo takahashi
>>320795036
I think Maria was one of those characters that was just thrown in there to your party. Think she has the very least amount of lines in the story, probably from going over budget, in that they couldn't flesh her out.
>>320795136
I think the main plan was to do a couple of the 6 episodes in Anime OVA/Series form, so probably already had the studio paid for that.
>>320794732
Wasn't the budget transferred to the masterpiece FFVIII though?
>>320794857
>>320795013
To expand on this, what everyone was eating were literally "Wels", which were the building blocks of Deus. So, you were technically being put directly under Deus's control, slowly, because of this.
>>320795567
There is no 100% evidence for this. It's just the most likely alternative answer.
>>320795136
Honestly I get the feeling that Xenogears would have still never been finished even if they gave him a budget twice the size as what he got. He just kept adding shit.
>>320795036
unsure if it is a completely different artist from the rest of the sprites or if it were actually rushed
the way it's animated stands out too. stuck to emeralda because of it, let maria hang out in yggdrasil
>>320795689
Could you imagine 4 discs, but without the rushed "Disc 2" being a factor?
>>320781757
>>320782736
>>320784623
>>320784817
>>320785929
>>320786042
>>320787158
>>320787910
>>320794231
No amout of remaking will fix its shit plot, dialog, lore, artstyle, and combat, you 90's kids
>>320790004
This
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>>320791180
>Miang hits the restart button a hundred times
>jews are thrown out of countries a hundred times
>>320796332
>you 90's kids
Trying to use this as an insult pretty much makes me disregard any opinion you have. Especially since I'm older than a "90's kid" so your insult just seems random to begin with.
I have never actually played Xenogears before, but I often hear that Disc 3 was a major let down. I have actually played other Xeno games a little bit and never found them to be good enough to draw me in. I would have definitely been willing to listen to your opinion, if you actually had an opinion to share rather than just some random insult. Too bad...
>>320786042
It makes sense though. Deus gets the Yaweh connection across just as well, perhaps making it feel less pretentious.
Wild Arms: 2nd Ignition
>>320797380
Xenosaga was shit shit shit
Play Xenogears, anon.
Alpha Protocol
/v/ should pool some money together and buy the rights for this
>>320798149
male characters designs in wa2 are mad gay luckily chose the qt
Also Tales of Destiny and Tales of Eternia
>>320799114
I always wanted to get into this but I could never play long enough to get invested.
>>320799605
Once you get passed the first mission (Saudi) it starts to pick up more. If you want to go full easy mode Pistols are literally broken. Makes the game go by much faster.
>Dark Souls with Guns
>>320799938
Dark Souls with guns is called Bloodborne, also Shadow Tower.
>>320781757
OP is correct if only because maybe we can finally see Xenogears live up to its fullest potential unconstrained by tight budgets and deadlines.
>>320782354
If Nintendo made a handheld Zelda collection with all the 2D games rebuilt on the Link Between Worlds engine I'd buy a dozen.
>>320785625
Didn't they do that on the PSP?
>think the story is decent
>read the LP
>no longer able to take it seriously ever again
>>320802921
Did he even finish the whole thing, that shit was hilarious
>>320802970
Nope.
>>320781757
I actually agree
the story is ambitious and the OST is great, everything else sucks
