3DS
>best selling console of gen
>mostly Nintendo exclusives
>hardly any 3rd party support
Wii U
>worst selling console of gen
>mostly Nintendo exclusives
>hardly any 3rd party support
What did Nintendo mean by this?
>hardly any 3rd party support
Wrong
>>320775715
Whats a 3rd party "must buy" on 3DS
3DS managed to find a niche. When it was released in 2011, kids hadn't gotten to smartphones yet. The Wii U released in 2012 and most people thought it was a perhepial for the Wii. Then in 2013 we got the PS4 and Xbone.
>>320775869
the 3DS didn't start to pick up in sales until 2013, it had a shit launch.
Animal Crossing and Pokemon was a BIG help.
Do you think the Wii U would reach a number like 50 million if they made an exclusive Animal Crossing and Pokemon game for it? (real game, not a spin off)
>>320776060
nope
>>320775648
>3DS
>hardly any 3rd party support
>>320775780
Any MH game, Bravely Default, EO I could go on. When compared to the vita the 3DS has much more third party support.
>3DS can't even outsell the fucking PSP
>>320775869
>kids hadn't gotten to smartphones yet
I did IT for school. I got bullshit calls from parents mad that we wouldn't give the 10 year old WiFi access on there smartphones and they were going over there data limits. I had to fight the school board to just not allow the damn things.
>>320776984
3DS outsells the Xbone and PS4
>>320776871
>I could go on.
You're sort of expected to when making a list to build your case. At least more than two fucking examples.
Also nobody is comparing it to the Vita. No need to bring it up.
I'm fine with my Pokemon Machine. But that is what it is. Other titles I grabbed were not must haves, and by and far the majority of them are first party anyway.
>>320777437
>You're sort of expected to when making a list to build your case.
Nah I'm not going to bother because you're obviously either a lazy piece of shit who can't be bothered to make his own shopping list or a shitposter who would wipe his ass with whatever list anyone posts. Also I posted 3 examples :^), two of which are series with more than 1 game on the 3DS
>>320777425
It has also been more time in stores, two years more precisely and now it is losing steam every month.
It will have the last great selling with the next Pokemon game, but that's it, this is not the DS or the Gameboy.
>>320777425
It came out like three years before them and it's pretty fucking sad that you probably can't state that sales fact in a year.
>>320777634
If you can't be bothered to properly respond to a guy then why fucking respond? Jesus Christ I sincerely hope that in all universes where I was born as retarded as you, my parents had the mercy in their hearts to smother me with a pillow.
The guy said "name some must haves". You half assed a list that did Jack fucking all to dissuade the notion that the Pokemon Machine has any killer app other than Pokemon.
>>320776984
>tfw people are buying psp's instead of vita's
>tfw weekly psp sells more than vita
The 3DS has access to the best library of all time through backwards compatibility
>>320777824
That being said, the 3DS is selling better this year than last year - and friendly reminder the first 2 years of the 3DS were pure shit in sales.
The 3DS picked up in sales and became a relevant console AFTER the Wii U launched.
>>320778019
>tfw Vita is already dropped and considered dead
>still outsells the Wii U in most weeks
It's not fair, bros..
>>320778104
is it that much better than the Wii U?
>>320778120
its only because people consider handhelds to be a different market than home consoles, when in reality its not.
they're both home consoles when you never leave the house :^)
>>320778194
>3DS games on top of the complete DS library
versus
>Some Wii U games on top of mostly shovelware and games on the Wii you are better off emulating on your toaster
>>320777978
You're not getting me to do your work for you m8, protip: use google.
>>320778330
there are DS emulators..
The Virtual Wii on the Wii U can also be softmodded still
>>320778494
and you can put a DS emulator on the softmodded Wii..
>>320778387
There's nothing to research. We're all aware of its handful of decent titles you buy after you pick it up with Pokemon.
>>320775648
there is no point debating console sales in modern times. kids this days are growing up with smartphones and computers. mine craft and pewdipie is their mario and dragon ball.
the only reason the ps4 is doing well is out of brand loyalty. fifa, final fantasy, and shooters, is what gives them sales and is because the consumers dont know shit about videogames.
its funny how people laugh about nintendo dying not realizing it was the only big company dedicated 100% to videogames. sony is an electronic company that simply expanded into the industry and microsoft which is pretty much irrelevant now attampted to follow its steps. once nintendo is gone steam will become the face videogames. personally i prefer the fat plumber over portal but thats my personal taste.
3DS
>240p
Wii U
>480p controller
Wow such a graphical upgrade
>>320777634
Here, let me help you out:
-SMT IV
-DeSu: O
-DeSu 2: RB
-Etrian Odyssey IB
-Etrian Odysssey: Untold
-Etrian Odyssey: Untold 2
-Persona Q
-Bravely Default
-Bravely Second
-Fire Emblem: Awakening
-Fire Emblem: Fates
-DBZ Extreme Butoden
-Theatrhythm Final Fantasy
-Yo-Kai Watch
-Shinobi
-Senran Kagura: Burst
-Project Mirai
Off the top of my head.
>>320775648
>3DS
>best selling console of gen
The 3ds may not be as big a let down as the wii u was when compared to the original wii, but it still represents a huge drop in market presence compared to its predecessor, hell even compared to the gba that had an abbreviated lifespan.
Besides that the only reason it's the best selling right now is because it came out almost three years before the rest. By the end of the console generation ps4 will have sold more than it and the wii u combined.
>>320777425
It most certainly does not outsell the PS4 anywhere but Japan. Are you fucking high?
>>320778829
Hey yeah. I'd buy two or three of those after Pokemon for sure.
Throw in DQVII and VIII while we're here. All great titles to eventually pick up for sure.
>>320778829
>-Fire Emblem: Awakening
>-Fire Emblem: Fates
First party games.
>DeSU: O
>DeSU: RB
ports
>Yo-Kai Watch
Why would you ever recommend that?
>>320778113
Except it's really not. It got a little uptick with the "new" 3DS, then fell off the face of the planet. It'll be lucky to be flat year on year.
>>320775780
Atlus, Capcom, Bandai, Xseed, and Square all have exclusives on 3DS. There's other 3rd party support as well from other companies, but not many of their games would be considered "must buys".
>>320777425
It outsell both the Xbone and PS4
>>320779027
>USA
3DS 18 mio
PS4 9 mio
Xbone 8 mio
>Japan
3DS 19 mio
PS4 2 mio
Xbone 56 k
>>320778019
The Vita still has a good library and a lot of third party support though.
Freedom Wars
Soul Sacrifice: Delta
Gravity Rush
Toukiden Kiwami + 2
Earth Defence Force 2
Malicious Rebirth
Ys Oath Of Falghana, Ys Seven + Ys Memories of Celceta
Corpse Party 1,2 + Corpse Party Blood Drive
Danganronpa 1,2 + Danganronpa Ultimate Despair Girls + 3
Gundam Extreme Vs Force
IA/VT
Persona 4 Golden
Persona 4 Disco: Dancing All Night
DJ MAX: Superbeat Xonic
Trails In The Sky 1,2 + Trails of Cold Steel
Tales of Heart R
Ragnarok Odyssey Ace
Sword Art Online Hollow Fragment
Sword Art Online Lost Song
Tearaway
God Eater Rage Burst 1 + 2
Lost Dimension
One Piece Unlimited World Red + Pirate Warriors 3 + Burning Blood
Wipeout 2048
BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Extend + XBLAZE
Steins;Gate
DJ MAX Technika Tune
Touch My Katamari
Axiom Verge
Digimon: Cyber Sleuth + Digimon: Next Order
AkibaStrip
DemonGaze + 2
Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines
Metal Gear Solid 1,2,3
Persona 1,2,3,4
Disgaea 1,2,3,4
Neptunia Hyperdimension 1,2,3 + Niore, Perfection + U
Atelier Totori + Meruru, Rorona Plus, Ayesha, Escha + Shallie
Ar Nosurge Plus
DragonsCrown
DragonBall Z: Battle Of Z
Muramasa Rebirth
Dead Or Alive Plus
Dead Or Alive Extreme 3
Hatsune Miku Project DIVA F 2nd + 1st
Code: Realize
Amnesia: Memories
Gundam: Battle Seed Destiny
Dungeon travellers 2
Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends + NEXT
Arcana Heart 3 Love Max
Gundam Breaker 1,2
Phantasy Star Online 2
Phantasy Star Nova
Taiko IM@S
Miracle Girls Fesitval
>>320779553
That's what I said anon
>>320779196
My bad, I just pasted a list of exclusive 3DS titles that I made before and removed the first-party games, forgot about FE for some reason.
>>320779035
I'm so fucking hyped for those two, my 2DS is pretty much an Atlus/Squeeniz machine, though.
>>320777425
With 3 year head start, you stupid fuck.
>>320778843
>3DS outsell both PS4 and Vita
are you angry sonygger?
>>320779027
Search for them you sure doesn´t know how to search do you? just google it
>>320779196
>ports
retard
>>320779858
Yeah but the Xbone and PS4 sales are stagnating but 3DS's keep going up
>>320779785
sorry i meant together
>>320779932
this too
>>320779684
>comparing LTD sales to sales rates
>when the 3DS came has a two and a half year advantage
>>320779748
Anon, I love my Vita, but are you really recommending otome games? Fucking otome games?
>>320779748
Weebshit aren't real games and the 3DS has far more games than the Vita.
Sony won again
>>320779748
>listing PSP games
>listing PS1 games
>listing PS2 games
>listing ports of those games
>listing objectively inferior multiplats
>>320780054
And yet the 3DS still outsold the PS4 and Xbone combined.
Get BTFO
>>320780147
>he thinks 3DS games aren't weebshit
>>320780275
3DS has literally zero weebshit, they're japanese games and not weebshit like on the Vita.
3DS has third-party support though. Nintendo handhelds have never had an issue with third-party support; that problem lies squarely on the consoles. Now what it doesn't have is considerable WESTERN support, but unless it's made by Sony that has never been true for a handheld.
>>320776871
Dat delusion
You can't go on because the 3ds doesn't have anything except mh and series continuations from the ds. The 3ds isn't popular because it has more games. It's popular because it has more popular games. Mh is more popular than ge, bravely default than ffx, eo and smt than dt and demon gaze, mario than gravity daze, etc.
The amount of retarded fanboyism in these threads is always surprising. Nintendo games have always been more popular. You could substitute 3ds with gb and wiiu with n64 and the answer would be the same. Nintendo is the most popular, but their most popular games aren't on consoles.
>>320780239
Lol i love my 3ds it has a lot of games and it sold a lot
Pic related
>>320780054
PS4 and Xbone sales combined only make the sales of the 3DS in the Japan. And 3DS's are still going up and have 18mio in advance. Good luck coming back
>>320780361
>series continuations from the ds
Fucking this. Nintendo's made a few low profile IPs like Pushmo or Sakura Samurai but otherwise 3DS is sequels and successors: the handheld.
>>320780239
>have both the lowest selling home console and lowest selling handheld they've ever produced in the same generation
>have to do mental gymnastics to justify how Nintendo isn't losing this gen horribly
Kind of sad desu senpai
>>320780172
By the same logic OOT/MM/devil survivor and other games should never be mentioned when talking about 3DS's library/
The point I'm making though is you can usually play entire series from start to finish on the one console, psps games are literally free for every firmware though exploits as well.
>>320780326
>3DS has literally zero weebshit,
keke'd, you literally like weebshit, just not when its on other platforms.
>>320779932
>3DS outsell both ps4 and vita
So? The ps4 in its first full year on the market sold more than the 3DS did in its peak year. When it's all said and done the ps4 is going to sell a lot more than the 3DS.
>>320780361
The games are popular because they're actually good. 3DS is the best handheld Nintendo ever made because of it's god tier library of games that has too many games to mention.
I'm not going to do your work for you when the 3DS has literally hundreds of amazing games on it.
>>320780550
I don't know about devil survivor, but Zeldas games are remakes
Compare that to ports of the same game
>>320779748
Cool. 4 mil systems worldwide, don't think people care.
>>320776984
the ds already did that
>>320780508
This is like a retarded version of Achilles and the tortoise. And no, your Japanese 3DS numbers are waaaaaaaaay off.
![worldwide_totals[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/BS9ht4z.png "worldwide_totals[1].png")
>>320780452
This image is vastly outdated. Here's the up to date one. In the same period of time PS4 sold 14 million while 3DS only sold 6. It's only going to be a matter of time before the PS4 beats the 3DS, considering how strong the PS4 is and how 3DS sales have come to nearly a complete stop.
>>320780587
:^) ok
it has a high price and its best selling games are multiplat
good luck with that
>>320780550
DeSu on 3DS are remakes, not ports
If that's the point you're making then why are you moving the goalposts? Nobody's listed VC or DS games as a reason to buy a 3DS
>>320780780
DELETE THIS
NOW
>>320779748
those are also available on the ps4 or ps3
>>320779684
>56k
Hahaha.
>>320780671
Why do people even make posts like this? It's not fun anymore
>>320780326
>literally zero weebshit
Are you sure about that?
>>320778829
I don't think this degenerate weeb shit is responsible for the success of the 3DS.
the lack of third support stands as an argument.
>>320780452
Who the fuck made this graph, the bars are all fucked.
>3DS
>No third party
Epic meme my friend :)
>>320781019
Sorry this is the newest
>>320780780
even on this all i said is true
i think is made by gamestop but i don´t know
>>320780989
>it has no third party games because I don't like them!
>>320780780
I don't know if projections about the PS4 are that realistic.
Do you think everybody on Earth will buy them?
If it does get a longer lifespan than the PS3 (which was long already) as has been reported, it will get mighty high to be sure. I still don't see it catching up to Sony's own past success with PS2.
It could crack 3DS' numbers though.
I'm not the other guy, just chiming in.
My bet is that as of January 1st 2016, MORE of the people who will ever own PS4 own it as opposed to those who will not ever own it.
In other words I think it's sold over 50% of its lifetime sales. It just did it faster than other consoles have.
>>320780534
Yep. I can go on with the comparisons too. Aa is more popular than dr, mario kart than wipeout, pokemon than digimon, 999 than corpse party, pxz than super heroine chronicle, etc. The only vita games that are more popular than their 3ds counterparts are vns and that's because they're mostly not on 3ds. The image was originally used as bait, but there's a picture showing how it takes roughly 50 popular vita games software sales to make up for just mh4s software sales.
I don't understand why people don't get this. It's been the same story every fucking gen. Nintendo has all these multi million sellers that are never outsold by individual games.
>>320781127
me and most 3DS owners don't care about those anime games. its just an Animal Crossing/Pokemon machine.
>>320781223
>implying there are no people waiting for the PS4 to have games before they get one.
by 2018 everyone will have a PS4 and an NX
>>320780989
I'm not saying that it is, but those games generally considered the best third-party titles on the 3DS.
Yes, there is a lack of third-party support, and I personally think that the reasons behind the 3DS' success are:
-First-party games
-Monster Hunter
-Yo-kai Watch (in Japan)
-Good marketing
>>320781223
A fuckton of people are still holding off buying a PS4 because few exclusives and price. It's selling like hot cakes regardless two years after release and there is no sign for slowing down.
>>320781303
Fire Emblem was listed
>>320781303
>moving the goalposts
>writing the same post with different words
>>320781241
But ZE: VLR is on the Vita, too...
>>320781436
then why wasnt the Monster Hunter on Wii U a success?
The 3DS sales in the US/Japan are pretty even so Yo-kai Watch doesnt seem to have made a huge impact on console sales.
What was the marketing? Most people purchased one because of title releases and word of mouth
>>320781019
The graphs put home consoles and handhelds in different categories.
>>320779748
who's that semen demon?
>>320781436
Nobody buys these niche weeb games, the 3DS is literally a Monster Hunter machine for japanese just like the PS4 is a CoD/Fifa/Madden machine for the west. It's the very reason why devs prefer to release their niche weeb stuff on the Vita even though there are so few of them. They actually buy these games.
>>320781430
>>320781458
>implying there are no people waiting for the PS4 to have games before they get one
>A fuckton of people are still holding off buying a PS4 because few exclusives and price
I AM one of those people.
I would say that there are fewer of us than people who already bought it though. Just due to how many seem to have jumped the gun.
>no sign for slowing down.
I think it has slown down from early release surely. I'm sure somebody has stats. I heard that it was being outsold (briefly) by Xbox One for some period. Unless that was shitposting fibs.
>>320781223
I know I'm holding off on buying a PS4 until there are enough games I want on it to justify buying one, but I WILL eventually be getting one. I know I'm not the only one doing this, when aside from Bloodborne the thing is currently barren when it comes to games I can't otherwise play on PC.
>>320780780
this happened before they just need to change the name
the gameboy got 120 million
the gba got 80 million
the ds got 150 million
the 3ds will probably get around 60 million
>>320781616
no point in buying a PS4 now for bloodborne because the game is fucking dead.
Expect a single player experience if you do.
>>320781673
What the fuck went wrong? Why can't Ninty deliver anymore?
>>320780850
>>320780736
They are not remakes, they are enhanced ports, if you go play des on the ds then on the 3ds, they almost look identical.
>Nobody's listed VC or DS games as a reason to buy a 3DS
People always list OOT/MM and Ports of DS games as a solid part of 3DS's library, it's not moving the goal posts, its just fact, and the same can be applied to vita's library.
>>320781610
The Xbox One outsold the PS4 on two occasions; last year's November and this year's October, this year's October being because of Halo 5.
>>320781608
niche weeb games are all garbage, if they were any good they would be more popular and well known. The only reason why they release it on the Vita is due to the fanbase being desperate enough to buy any garbage whereas the average 3DS owner cares more about good games than anime girls.
>>320781723
>most successful console of the gen
>what went wrong?
>>320781723
60 million is a huge success I mean just look at the vita if you want to see a massive failure
>>320781767
*in the US
The Xbone still got stomped globally by the PS4.
>>320781610
PS4 hasn't been outsold by the xbone worldwide since like the second month of their release, and that only happened because the ps4 was having huge stock issues. The ps4 is selling better this year than last and next year will be much bigger with all the games that should be releasing.
>>320781823
>just look at the vita if you want to see a massive failure
Has the Wii U finally outsold the Vita?
>>320781767
the xbone will be lucky to get 40 million units sold by the end of its lifetime
>>320781926
will Sony ever make another handheld?
>>320781823
That's not a huge success, 150 million was.
Nintendo got hit harder because they relied mostly on the casuals who went mobile. Sony will always have otaku. We won't go mobile no matter what developers pull.
Why the fuck is this thread still up?
>>320781561
1.) Because handhelds are much more popular in Japan, and Japan is fucking nuts when it comes to Monster Hunter. The Wii U had a pretty bad reputation too, so it couldn't take advantage of MH.
2.) Yo-kai Watch definitely influenced the 3DS sales in Japan.
3.) When I said marketing, I was talking on a macro level; that includes more than marketing, it also includes demographics and such. The 3DS had a pretty solid demographic (although I firmly believe that that is going to change when its succesor comes out). Pokemon X/Y/ORAS are good examples of good marketing, too. The release of the 3DS XL and 2DS also helped to boost the sales.
>>320782035
They shouldn't.
>>320781762
MGS 1/2 etc. is literally an emulation of a PS1 game on a Vita. Devil Survivor Overclocked is a 3DS game which happens to be a remake of a DS game. MGS 1 doesn't count because you are literally playing a PS1 game on your Vita. Overclocked does because it literally a 3DS game and is an enhanced port
>>320775648
>hardly any 3rd party support
For Wii U, yes. 3DS has the most third party support of any device minus smartphones.
>>320775780
The Dragon Quest games alone total 7 games. More than enough reason to buy the system even without considering Nintendo games. Problem is, we don't have them in the west.
>>320782036
you don't understand the definition of a success do you?
>>320782037
>m-muh personal hugbox gets hit with reality
>MOOODS FUCKING DELETE THIS NOW
I thought the crying Wojak shitposting was just shitposting but holy shit, Nintendrones actually behave like that.
>>320781806
Have you ever thought about its because the 3DS literally lacks the hardware capability and graphical fidelity to run them properly?
Superbeat Xonic would be terrible on the vita, hell most games that make use of 3D modelling cannot run even semi-properly on the 3DS and end up looking like garbage.
>>320781513
And guess where it sold worst? It's a western centric series and 3ds versions always sell better because americans are nintendo/mustards who boycott all sony games and beg for pc ports.
>>320782227
>anyone who mentions rule breaking is a console warrior
>>320782293
>nintendo/mustards who boycott all sony games
>sonyggers are actually this delusional
>>320782218
Successful platforms are profitable for developers and publishers. The 3ds lost most of its support. The vita is basically the psp2. Nintendo lost on the 3ds before the wiiu failed. Sony has always profited from vitas and they're doing even better now with the ps4.
>>320782293
even Europe and japan prefer the 3ds
>>320782035
>>320782096
They have said they won't. There will be a large timespan if they attempt another hurrah.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/215103-sony-to-skip-playstation-vita-2-blames-mobile-gaming-for-handhelds-decline
>>320782139
MGS 2~3 is literally a HD remastered port with a graphical upgrade. DS is likewise is a enhanced port which is basically the same thing.
>>320782408
First day on /v/?
Please do not misuse the quote function. Improve your bait by not using buzzwords.
>>320782193
>Problem is, we don't have them in the west.
Two in the pipeline on the offchance you haven't heard, which I'm sure you have.
http://www.vg247.com/2015/11/13/dragon-quest-7-and-8-finally-coming-to-3ds-in-the-west/
>>320782478
if the vita was profitable they would be making a successor>>320782486
>>320782293
I'm just glad the new release is getting a Vita version. I'd hate to play is in 240p and filled with gamebreaking savebugs.
oh this thread turned to complete shit so quickly
>>320782478
You aren't fooling anybody
>>320782037
People who have finished their games/lack there of need something to do. So justifying their purchase of some console while watching Netflix/Hulu seems to be their only outlet for boredom.
>>320782293
>console warring and /int/ shitposting
Bravo.
>>320782632
It's 9:45pm Eastern time during the start of Christmas holidays... Just a theoryA SHITPOST THEORY
>>320775648
Actually the 3DS will soon be overtaken by the PS4 and will easily become Nintendo's worst selling handheld ever (not including the VB), placing it right next to the Wii U in terms of performance
I hope this explains the discrepancy you thought you were seeing.
>>320782560
Didn't know that, but I can still see Persona 1 to 3 on that list
>>320782484
You're conflating hardware preferences with software purchases. Most people like nintendo games. Guess what kind of hardware you need to play nintendo games? It has nothing to do with making comparisons. 3ds owners aren't saying "fuck the vita I would rather play mario than freedom wars". They're saying "I want to play mario". There's absolutely no comparisons being made or preferences formed. I mentioned preferences because VLR is on both 3ds and vita.
>>320782739
its already outsold the game and watch
>>320778829
>no
>Rhythm Thief
>SMT 4
>Monster Hunter
>Putting Theatrhythm FF and not Curtain Call
>Project X Zone
>Fantasy Life
>Sonic Generations
Which might as well be a different game.
>Code of Princess
>Liberation Maiden
>Rune Factory 4
>PW Dual Destinies
>PW X Layton
>Inazuma 11 gamesGenuinely better than I was expecting
>Story of Seasons
>LBX
>Layton and the Miracle Mask
Pretty sure there's more if you go into japanese territory too.
>>320782835
game and watch wasn't a handheld console
>>320782604
They will backpedal on this. Handheld developers do not want to move to mobile, nor do handheld consumers. The mass market moved to mobile. If you designed a vita2 with the expectation that only 10 or 20 million people would ever buy it, you won't have the same problems.
If developers ask for it, sony will do anything.
Considering we basically just got GE:RB confirmed yesterday, the vita is looking pretty good.
Helps if you're looking forward to titles like xandu, sword city, gundam and digimon
>>320775648
it means consoles are dying you faggot
>>320782950
>game and watch wasn't a handheld console
>>320782739
>next to the WiiU in terms of performance
>WiiU:10 million
>3DS:55 million
>>320782993
Also on PS4
>>320782963
no they wont all it means is that 3rd party handheld developers will be forced to use Nintendo handhelds
>>320782950
>game and watch wasn't a handheld console
>>320782950
>>320782993
>vita is looking good
>posts a PS4 game
You can't make this shit up
>>320782950
That's literally all they were retard.
>>320783146
You're honestly retarded enough to think that developers who don't want to develop on nintendo hardware will do so if sony doesn't make another handheld. They'll either move to ps4, keep supporting the vita until sony cans it, or drop out of the market entirely.
Low budget development is an absolute necessity and mobile doesn't serve developers like handheld does.
>>320783143
Yeah, but I can't play PS4 games on the go.
>>320783291
Technically you can stream PS4 to PSVita so the PSVITA IS TECHNICALLY DESTROYING THE COMPETITION! It gets dibs on all PS4 and PSVita games.
>>320782950
duh, it's a character in smash siblings
The 3ds is worth about 1/8 its price. I wouldnt mind having one, but its price in comparison to its hardware is laughable now.
>>320783070
Wii U: Nintendo's worst selling console
3DS: Nintendo's worst selling handheld
>>320783056
It's not even a console by modern definitions. You may as well call bullshit on the VB being excluded because that actually was a console and it actually was a handheld, making it easily Nintendo's worst selling handheld if you want to get extremely technical
How about "among the mainstream Nintendo consoles, GB/GBA/DS/3DS/NES/SNES/N64/GC/WII/WIIU, 3DS and Wii U are the worst selling in their respective market"
>>320783146
Newsflash, 3rd party would develop for a potato if it made the most money.
They don't give a shit about hardware, they care about $ (with very few exceptions). Wanna know how I know?
PS2 wasn't the most powerful, sold the most, Wii wasn't the most powerful, sold the most, 3DS isn't the most powerful, sold the most.
Know what they did have in common? For their generations they had the biggest install base.
Shocking truth!
I know this is a multiplat but have 3DS owners played and or enjoyed this game?
Curious to know if 3DS owners considers this game weebshit.
>>320783481
whats your point?
>>320783523
Never tried it.
>>320782582
Yes I heard. But I'm worried that we won't even get those before the next Nintendo handheld is announced. Giving the five other games a much smaller chance of coming west.
>>320783481
Developers care about money, but that doesn't mean the most popular platform is the most profitable for them. That's why competing platforms still exist and why the ps3 and vita have more games than the 3ds and wii. It's all about the userbase.
>>320783523
I watched the anime and its not weebshit
>>320783461
>making it easily Nintendo's worst selling handheld if you want to get extremely technical
I would like to get technical. The VB is Nintendo's shittiest hardware AND shittiest handheld, which it technically was, even though the thing was a monstrosity on a stand.
The Game & Watch was absolutely a handheld console, it was just like the Pong consoles in the 70's, it had the basic built in software (one collection). That's how it was different.
If G&W isn't a console, then NES and Sega Master system would be the 2nd console generation, rather than the 3rd.
The Atari 2600 wasn't the first console, 1 game consoles (pong consoles) were around for a decade+ before it.
>>320775648
>hardly any 3rd party support on 3ds
Are you high?
>>320783056
>>320783191
>>320783272
>>320783320
>>320783384
A console plays video gameS. Plural. A proprietary hardware that plays a single video game is not a console. It's an electronic game.
>>320783719
>>320783719
>millennials
>>320783550
Oh, maybe we don't disagree. I thought you were implying the 3rd party studios would have a problem with that. They don't mind hardware they mind sales. At least that's what previous precedent suggests.
>>320783650
Agreed, but if they can't easily port (or some agreement allows them not to port) then they don't.
PS4/PC is a good example of what you're talking about. All kinds of shit is coming down the pipeline for both because
A: Steam is popular and profitable
B: PS4 is popular and profitable
C: Porting is easier than ever because of PS4 architecture
If the NX is easy to port to, you can add it to that to make it a trifecta.
>>320776984
>can hack psp easily
>PSP last model was pretty cheap, shit but cheap
>psp games are/were cheap
>DS/3DS are/were twice expensive
>nintendo games rarely drop prices and are like 3 or 4 times more than a psp
Geez. I wonder what parents will choose for their kids.
The 3ds started to pick up things when Pokemon and 2ds with that cheap price
>>320783614
The next Dragon Quest game currently in development is schedule to come out for 3DS as well. (Also NX)
So... I dunno. You'll at least get a BRAND NEW one for 3DS if nothing else.
>>320783719
please see
>>320783683
>>320783719
con·sole 2 (kŏn′sōl′)
n.
1.
a. A central control panel for a mechanical, electrical, or electronic system.
It's a fucking handheld console dumbass.
>>320780020
uh no that's the opposite of what is happening
>>320780020
3DS is slowing down
Xbox One isn't being tracked for hardware (probably because it's bad for investor confidence)
PS4 is maintaining momentum (not increasing though currently) As in, the rate of change is consistent and it has upward, linear trajectory, not exponential.
>>320784012
>PCs are consoles
IT ALL MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW
>>320782035
Why would they? Unlike Nintendo they know the handheld market is coming to an end with the rise of smartphones and tablets.
>>320783940
>Geez. I wonder what parents will choose for their kids.
They'd probably just pick up the 3DS because of all the huge recognizable names but the names caught them off guard again.
>>320783523
I'm curious to know what your warped definition of weeaboo is.
>>320784102
PCs do more than consoles.
Does you PC boot up into a screen that just lets you pick emulators and Steam?
>>320775648
>3ds
>best selling
PS4 would like a word with you.
>>320784002
>The next Dragon Quest game currently in development is schedule to come out for 3DS as well. (Also NX)
And PS4. And trust me, I'm hoping it comes out. My issue is, I want all the DQ games to come west. Not just the main series and remakes.
I'm also worried we'll only get one version of DQXI. Like only the PS4 version, but not the 3DS.
>>320783523
>weebshit
Only retards use that term.
If something is too Japanese for somebody they're just not a fan of anime aesthetics. We don't need a special term for games with anime aesthetics.
>>320784231
Anon. Please read a thread before you just randomly post.
Not even the people cheerleading the PS4 are saying that, because it's not true (yet).
>>320784231
>50 million is less than 30 million
>>320783683
>Most of the consoles from this era were dedicated consoles playing only the games that came with the console. These video game consoles were often just called video games, because there was little reason to distinguish the two yet.
Just because historians group pre-console video games as "generation 1" does not mean proprietary single game hardware were every considered "consoles". Even wikipedia makes that distinction.
>>320784248
I think because it's confirmed on 3DS (different version) AND NX, that Nintendo gets 2 versions.
If they make a Vita version Sony will get 2, otherwise they get the 1 (high-res) version.
I would bet money on that scenario.
>>320784174
And the 3DS does more than pong, does that mean the 3DS is a PC?
You're just digging yourself deeper. "Video game console" has a very clear definition, and single game hardware does not fall under that definition.
>>320784365
>Just because historians group pre-console video games as "generation 1" does not mean proprietary single game hardware were every considered "consoles"
Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it untrue. It's not historians, it's just an agreed upon designation by everybody who is actually involved in the industry.
>Even wikipedia makes that distinction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_generation_of_video_game_consoles
Stop being retarded man. Last reply.
>>320784365
>wikipedia
Way to make yourself look like a retard.
>>320784084
Your going to see it drop after February until a major release (street fighter, FFXV, etc.). The black Friday price is what has kept the sales constant.
>>320784470
>>You're just digging yourself deeper
Serious question, are you brain damaged?
If you were rusing me, good I guess. I prefer that to the alternative.
>>320784552
>Your going to see it drop after February until a major release
For sure, yeah. No argument there. That sort of happened already. Didn't drop by TOO much though.
>3DS
>no 3rd party
>has literally all 3 of Japans biggest fucking franchises (DQ, MH, Yokai Watch) among others
>>320784506
By the same logic, the Wii U isn't even Nintendo's worst selling console. See pic related.
And yet everyone "involved in the industry" considers it Nintendo's worst selling console. Should we really be trusting these people to define terms when they can't reach consensus amongst themselves?
>>320784409
I'm talking about western localization. The game is confirmed for 3DS and PS4 in Japan without question. We may only get one of them in the west. If even that.
>>320784783
You're totally right.
TECHNICALLY that is the worst selling.
But when some shitstain "video game journalist" makes a clickbait article, they know that 99% of the people reading don't even know what the Nintendo TV Game even is and never heard of it, so they can feel confident nobody will autistically debate them.
>should we trust those people
Not those article writers no. Stay the fuck away from them and don't read or link their garbage.
>>320779748
>unironically recommending danganroppa or sword art
>>320784871
That's harder to say. Who the fuck knows what Squenix plans to do with Dragon Quest.
NX will be region free it's looking like so at least for both the PS4/NX version it will be import-ready.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-05-11-nintendo-optimistic-on-ending-region-locks-starting-with-nx
3DS though... Another story.
>>320784890
>You're totally right.
y-you too
>>320784668
Isn't the black Friday price going for all of Christmas. That might be why you haven't seen a significant drop.
>>320784783
>Should we really be trusting these people to define terms when they can't reach consensus amongst themselves?
Of course you fucking shouldn't are you legitimately retarded?
>>320785030
I'm saying it dropped during a no-big-title lull, I'm not sure what happened last Black Friday. I'm not sure what the up to the minute stats are on sales.
>>320785123
Yeah but they still have it going for 299. It going to still be selling at current rates until after Christmas assuming they hold the price for gift card recipients. Then it will drop when the price goes up until it hits a saturation point.
>>320782713
:^)
>>320784409
>that Nintendo gets 2 versions.
Or one version, since NX could very well be a handheld system.
>>320784970
>PS4/NX version
It's going to be PS4 and 3DS/NX.
>>320786303
It's likely a home console that has some kind of handheld capability that isn't well understood yet.
>>320786467
Unlikely but possible.
You're not the same guy as above right?
Squenix has already mistakenly leaked porting FF14 to NX, that can't be done on a handheld system.
The NX will have console tier power, whatever it is. It might ALSO have handheld-functionality.
Too early to really say but I'm pretty confident Nintendo will have 2 versions and Sony will have 1 (unless a Vita version is announced, then 2).
>>320776871
mfw I don't own a single 3rd party 3ds game but I've put countless hours into Kid Icarus Uprising, Link Between Worlds, 3D Land, MK7 and Dream Team
>>320775648
>3DS
>hardly any 3rd party support
that's just plain wrong
