Why is it so perfect?
HL2EP2 is the best HL game. Fight me.
Xen could have been better, but yeah its great
>>320760916
Hl1 is better
It's not though.
>>320760967
HL2EP2 is better
good concept that they didn't try to force Into a movie,weren't afraid to break laws of nature forfun
>>320760797
Because gameplay was the only thing that was important to the people that made it, and all of the other great features fell out of that.
Let's play deathmatch.
>>320761026
The only part of EP2 I enjoyed was the house shoot out.
I didn't like the mines, or the strider fest at all.
it's ok but it started the linear corridor shooter trend and i can never forgive it for that
HL1 > OP4 > HL2EP1 > Blue Shift > Decay > HL2 > HL2EP2
imho
>>320761371
Freeman Pontifex alone has better level design than most FPSs
The Hunters, Antlion Workers, and Zombines are so much better than any enemy in HL1
The only things HL2EP2 was lacking was length and new weapons
>>320760916
>the big finish to the entire Half-Life series (never to be continued, by the way) is the death of a minor character (who wasn't even a real character in HL1, until he was retconned in as of HL2)
nah, it's shit brobut the fight against those striders was neato
>>320762036
>Eli
>minor
Who the fuck would you consider major
Eli knew everything about the Resistance
Opposing Force is the best one.
Valve anything is garbage.
>>320760797
Everything after you get knocked out sucks.
>>320760797
Good gunplay
Very little cutscenes
Managed to give good variety of environments despite being in an underground facility
>>320760797
Hey guys, remember me?
>>320762183
Okay, he was canonically important, but the fact that his abrupt death is the last thing which will ever happen in the Half-Life universe is still pretty disappointing.
>>320762252
No its not you hipster
>>320762503
They finish Xen yet?
>>320762503
if only black mesa actually had volumetric lighting
>>320762651
>volumetric lighting
Uh, you mean sunbeams?
They added that recently
>>320762639
No, but they had time to add multiplayer and charge $20 for it :^)
>>320762651
Is this what you mean?
They added it last month
>>320762503
it was pretty neat
>>320762993
>>320762714
yeah, that's surprising. never seen rays in a source game outside of cinematic mod
>>320763085
HL2: Update also has rays
>>320762503
It's gonna be GOAT when it's finally done. Doesn't have Alyx Vance tho.
>>320763738
>when it's finally done
Which is never
amazing and unique creature design. fun, great , atmosphereic level design. nice variety and pacing. rewarding weapon design and mechanics. elusive, but present lore told by surroundings. perfect sound and music design
>>320761820
>Blue Shift above anything
>EP1 above HL2 and EP2
>EP2 at the bottom
Stop shitposting
>>320762503
>2015
>still isn't finished
???
>>320761820
OP4 > HL2E2 > HL2 > HL1 > HL2E1 > Blue Shift
>>320760797
For the same reason you stopped beating your wife.
>>320762626
>opfor is objectively #1 or #2 behind hl
*tips*
>>320761820
>HL2EP1 > Blue Shift > Decay > HL2 > HL2EP2
>>320762503
>cut out levels from the original
Load of shit.
>>320764835
I'll never understand people who put opposing force above half life 1.
For gods sake just replay the games
I thought Blue Shift was alright
>>320761820
the fuck
>>320765970
It is alright. People putting it above literally any of the other HL games are just silly.
>>320765471
Which levels?
>>320766143
this
if HL1 would = F.E.A.R., then
Blue Shift = Extraction Point
Opposing Force = Perseus Mandate
>>320765970
I liked it
Will there ever be Ep3?
>>320764387
Blue Shift actually makes more sense if you play it on the Dreamcast.
>>320766528
wwyw a 4 hour long episode, when it's time to ask for a full experience?
>>320766260
I think there was more, but I remember there are several maps from On A Rail and Surface Tension that Black Mesa just skips over and doesn't adapt.
>>320761820
OP4 = HL1 > EP2 > HL2 >>>>>>>>> Blue Shit > EP1
Objectively correct list.
>>320766143
I don't know, I'd say Episode 1 managed to be worse. Blue Shift was still your basic Half Life formula, it just didn't do anything interesting with it. Episode 1 was worse because it decided that shooting should be optional in a first person shooter.
>>320764835
My nigga
>>320765487
>I'll never understand people who put opposing force above half life 1.
>OpFor has better gameplay
>games are about gameplay
>game with better gameplay is better
not that hard, isn't?
>>320767036
OpFor managed to make Xen interesting as well. Every time I get to Xen in Half Life I stop playing.
>>320766528
Will there ever be a new battlestar galatica series?
>>320763738
>Doesn't have Alyx Vance tho.
Yeah, and why would it?
>>320765471
There's mods that restore the missing levels.
Anyone here prefer to remember HL1 for the golden age of mods it brought? I used to love NS1 and Sven Coop in particular.
>you will never play Sven with some bros from /v/
>>320768537
I've tried that, it's no fun when there's faggots who just speed through the levels without saying a word
>>320766774
Well, I agree with the list at least, though I'd say EP2 is roughly equal to HL2, rather than outright better.Nobody mentions tech demo Lost Coast
- Good level design. Good enemy placement and pacing. Really clever parts like Surface Tension where you start at one point and go the long way around to reach the same place -- Half Life actually often gives you a glimpse of what's to come this way. It's a small thing but I really appreciate it, I see a kind of subtle humor in it. I don't know, it's hard to explain.
- Fantastic claustrophobic atmosphere. You feel like a hunted rat all throughout. It's all smoke and mirrors and scripted sequences, but it doesn't feel overdone like say, Half Life 2 does. The game is unafraid of quiet moments of just roaming through ugly ducts. In this way, it reminds me more of System Shock 2 than it does of HL2's near constant tryhard spectacle.
- Great sound. By this I don't mean technically -- it's all quite dated, sure. But the way the game is unafraid to make guns extremely loud or the overbearing reverb in metal rooms. I love it, it feels raw.
To sum it up, the game doesn't feel like it's trying to please you, even if it's actually linear and carefully crafted to be intuitive. You can really immerse yourself, which is where I think HL2 fails. It's all over the place, inconsistent in tone and trying too hard to deliver variety at the expense of immersion.
>>320763738
The only real flaw BM had was the shitty marine AI. I mean come on guys, marine AI is one of the best things about HL. Sure, I know they're not really as smart as they appear, but while you're actually playing, they really seem smart and that's all that matters. Just like FEAR AI which is similarly dumb under all the smoke and mirrors.
BM marines are slow dumbsters who are overly accurate to compensate for it. I hope they manage to fix this for the final version.
Otherwise, I was shocked to see BM turn out as good as it did. I was always a naysayer claiming it will never come out.
>>320768707
because its like 20 minutes long at most
>>320760797
Why do people like opposing force so much? Don't remember it doing anything better than the other two, but I do remember them clumping up bunches of hit-scan enemies in an area, especially those ninjas, who in groups were tedious to kill.
my issue with HL1 is that Xen fucking sucks, rest of the game is good though
>>320764387
>EP1 above HL2 and EP2
What's your point, geek? You don't like heavy Alyx teamwork and pants shitting zombie sequences?
>>320762993
>>320763085
That's fake god rays, aka shitty post process ones. It's not actual volumetric lighting. With real volumetric lighting you get rays without staring at the source.
>>320763085
Lost Coast had some.
