>Characters that were reasonable additions to smash
Bayonetta
Wonder Red
Snake
Ridley
Wolf
>Characters that were hopeless delusions
Shantae
K Rool
Geno
Crystal
Viewtiful Joe
Another pokemon
Shovel Knight
Isaac
Inklings
Waluigi
Rayman
Paper Mario
Banjo and Kazooie
Bomberman
Skullkid
Bandana Dee
Dixie Kong
Layton
Toad
Chorus Men
Knuckles
Simon Belmont
Chrom
>Characters we really should have seen coming based on new games coming out
Cloud
Corrin
>Characters we really should have seen coming
>Cloud
Nobody, fucking NOBODY saw him coming.
>>320756992
I don't see why Shovelknight wasn't to be expected. It sold way more on 3DS than other platforms and he has an amiibo.
>>320757384
we should have, that's what that title means
>>320757547
Shovel Knight STILL hasn't been released in Japan. They don't know who he is.
>>320757547
>>320757692
either way, isn't recognizable enough and isn't pushing a product nintendo owns. It's gotta be 1 or both of those. That's why corrin and robin are in there, they push FE
Why wasn't Venom Snake added?
>no Master Chief
wtf r u doin OP
>>320756992
>Paper Mario
>hopeless delusion
He still has a hell of a chance getting into 5mash
>Paper Mario
>Hopeless dillusion
Not really, being a third Mario doesn't mean he was dillusion especially with Paper Jam existing
>>320758241
Because that's not Snake.
>>320757656
Why would Nintendo want to advertise a game that won't be coming to the NX
shit the Wii U doesn't even have FFVII
>>320758471
He is though.
Wonder Red was my #1 pick he was very unlikely to get in simply because he just isn't very popular despite his game being pretty damn good.
Ridley is s lost cause as long as Sakurai directs the game because it's been made pretty clear that he just doesn't want Ridley playable.
Banjo was pretty reasonabl, though.
>>320758665
He really isn't. You think it's Snake, but it's not.
>Ridley
>reasonable
>>320758745
He isn't Big Boss, but he is Venom Snake
>>320756992
How was another Pokémon a hopeless delusion? We have six Fire Emblem characters now, the same as Pokémon.
>>320758872
Venom Snake doesn't even exist. What are you talking about?
Guest characters in smash are fucking cancer and I wish brawl never started the trend, fuck Kojima for not only ruining MGS but also Smash
>>320758926
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Venom_Snake
Stop being a faggot
>>320756992
>Snake
>reasonable
Yeah, if you lived under a stone and completely missed Konami going full retard for years now.
>>320759070
You know exactly what I mean. Tell them what I'm saying.
>>320758920
To get another Pokemon added Nintendo has to go to Gamefreak and the Pokemon Company. It's odd that even Mewtwo was added tbqh
>>320756992
No one should have seen Cloud coming. And no one did.
As for Corrin, it would have been strange to expect a FE newcomer when we just got Robin.
Sakurai knew no one would suspect a thing, so that's why these are the 3 newcomers he chose.
>>320758975
>3rd party characters ruined smash
>not the dumbed down and defensive gameplay
>>320758485
this
don't behave like anyone could have ever seen it coming, if somebody tried to predict it he'd be laughed off by smash autists and local shitposters alike
>>320757384
>NO ONE SAW THIS COMING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2eMX_YmxRg
Why do Smashfags all say the same thing?
>>320759275
If I knew what you're saying we wouldn't be having this argument right now
>>320759565
My point is that Venom Snake isn't actually Venom Snake. Think about it. You're missing a few details here.
>>320758485
Nintendo isn't getting Street Fighter V and yet Ryu is in smash
>>320756992
I honestly would have preferred W. Red to Inkling but you're nuts if you think any 101 character has more of a chance than the squid kids.
>>320758975
I agree with the autism loli. All these homogenized pseudo-realistic characters are really boring, especially when lined up next to each other. Part of my enjoyment from Smash came from all the clashing characters and artstyles.
>>320759541because we all secretly watch etika
>>320759512
Exactly. Cloud was literally NEVER EVER tier until the moment he was revealed.
>>320759368
Look motherfucker, smash is a party game for Nintendo characters whether you accept it or not. I don't care how many hungry manlet bodypillows you own, it doesn't change that fact.
Adding Snake and Sonic to a NINTENDO game that celebrates NINTENDO characters ruins the whole point. Not to mention Snake's inclusion ruined the whole aesthetic of Brawl, making it dark and grittier. You know what's worse than 6 FE characters that all wield swords? FUCKING THIRD PARTY CHARACTERS. Pac-Man, Megaman, Sonic, Ryu, CLOUD STRIKE WHEN FF7 HAS NEVER BEEN ON A NINTENDO CONSOLE. It's not Smash Bros anymore, its Vidya All-Stars Battle featuring the Mario Bros
>Paper Mario
>Dixie
>Hopeless dillusion
>Using the new games argument wen Sticker Star was 2012 like Awakening, Paper Jam in 2015/2016 and Tropical Freeze in 2014
>>320756992
>Ridley
>reasonable
>>320760087
>>320758975
At least im not a piece of weeb shit.
>>320760578
>>320760578
Not yet.
>>320760578
You're just a regular piece of shit.
Congratulations, champ.
You did it.
>>320760754
>>320760812
When will the anime meme die
>>320758485
Why do you assume it won't? It's already coming out everywhere else
>>320760938
>anime
>die
>>320759541
MEMETIKA
>>320760087
No, you're just exaggerating. I mean didn't you yourself call them "guest" characters? I guess you forgot what guest means. It's still primarily for celebrating Nintendo history, but major characters from other companies are now able to show up. I'll admit it did get excessive this time around, but it's not as bad as you're making it sound.
And Snake's inclusion made the overall game grittier? Seriously?
>>320760381
>>320760578
>>320756992
>Ridley
>reasonable
Please guys. Just stop. It's NEVER EVER happening.
Fucking Ridleyfags. I swear to god.
>>320760458
Explain how he's unreasonable without saying stupid shit like "he couldn't fly" since Cgarizard, Palutena, and other fliers are already on the roster.
>>320756992
>2nd Fidley, furfags homo fantasy and Blunder Red as reasonable picks
Slackjawed dudebro detected
>>320761419
Because Sakurai maid it clear that he was never an option months ago
>>320761419
He's unreasonable because Sakurai refuses to put in the effort it takes to make him playable. He will never be playable as long as Sakurai is directing.
>>320761419
>“I definitely know that Ridley’s a much-anticipated name for fans, but if we made Ridley as a fighter, it wouldn’t be Ridley any longer. It’d have to be shrunk down, or its wings reduced in size, or be unable to fly around freely.”
>“Providing accurate portrayals of characters is something I want to pay ample attention to. If I don’t stick to that thought, then we’d have to lower the quality or break the balance of the game. Something that goes way off spec could break the entire game.”
>“Instead of going through a lot of very convoluted hocus-pocus to make Ridley a fighter, I figured it’d be better to keep Ridley as it currently is, the correct way, and have it feel like a truly threatening presence. There are other icons, too, like Metal Face and the Yellow Devil, which help effectively portray each of their world settings. They go a long way toward deepening the game world, and I think it’s been fun to experiment with.”
Literally stated he will not make Ridley a character. Now explain how it was reasonable to expect him as DLC.
>>320761498
I'm talking in general. Obviously Sakurai only wants FE reps at this point. Nobody would be reasonable if we followed his mindset.
>>320761548
True but I thought we were discussing an in general sort of thing. If we're discussing Sakurais definition of reasonable than goddamn what a horrible thought.
>>320761548
If YOU were in charge of making Ridley playable without making him feel weird, how would you do it?
>You can't, no matter how hard you try
>>320761745
>If we're discussing Sakurais definition of reasonable than goddamn what a horrible thought.
Then who the fuck's definition are we discussing? Yours? Who are you?
Call me crazy for thinking it's relevant to mention the intentions of the guy who actually makes the characters.
>>320756992
>Wonder Red
>Snake
>Reasonable
You're retarded.
>>320761719
>correct way
>ever helping someone
>Meta Ridley a purple haze
>Can be defeated by a kid and his shovel
>implying Ridley doesn't fight mostly on the ground in the 3d games
Why do people eefend this lying sack of rye?
>>320761767
He's an alien. He's meant to feel weird. I'd see it as a positive since an odd looking alien creature looking odd and alien is what I'd be going for.
>>320762037
Why does nobody think this way? I mean it makes sense. Why SHOULDN'T a playable Ridley feel odd and alien-like? Him being this overly alien being is more his character than size is. As stated his hazard is nothing at all like his actual boss fights or character so he spouted all that shit to bring his diehard drones onto his side. It's quite sad it worked. If Metroid was insanely popular that should be called out.
