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let's see

>better speech check system that isn't randomized and can be exploited through save scumming
>SPECIAL is now used in dialog checks
>skills are now used in dialog checks
>low intelligence actually has an impact on what you can say
>perks every other level lead to a much better and balanced progression
>perks are better balanced (Grim Reaper's Sprint nerf for example)
>much more perks
>better DLC overall (mothership zeta and operation anchorage are pure shit, OWB is the best there is)
>no repetitive tedious metro tunnels
>companions actually have personality
>companions all have sidequests
>better written main story
>branching main story
>faction system
>disguise system
>weapon mods
>ammo crafting
>more skills
>can make food, water and drugs with survival
>hardcore mode which enables several things that should be default like Stimpacks healing over time and ammo having weight
>more consistent game world and world building
>better shooting
>iron sights
>Jury Rigging
>better soundtrack
>melee weapons and unarmed are much more fleshed out


if you prefer 3 over NV you might be mentally retarded. The only concrete defense I see is "the experience is better" but that's completely subjective, ruined by the metro tunnels and doesn't matter when there's a complete wasteland 200 years after the bombs dropped which doesn't even make sense.
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No shit
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I'm not commenting out these points you make because I'm not autistic, but

>better speech check system that isn't randomized and can be exploited through save scumming

This barely matters, if you savescum its your own fault.

>perks every other level lead to a much better and balanced progression

Disagree. Perks can be balanced to be acquired every level and its usually better to have more things to choose when you level up.

>companions actually have personality
Too many shitty personalities though, like the dyke felicia day, the faggot doctor and the lolsorandumb super mutant tranny.

I agree with most of the rest and I don't think anyone actually considers FO3 better than FNV. FO4 is better at the gameplay department though.
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>sequel is better than it's predecessor
Wow no shit. Next, you are going to tell me Vice City is shit because there's more things to do in San Andreas.
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>>320748009
>sequel is better than it's predecessor
It's not a sequel, its a spin off, and sequels are rarely better than their originals.
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I want to play FNV again but I'm too lazy to spend two days looking for mods. Is there a good mod pack out there that doesn't add too much dumb shit like anime hair and shit like that?
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>>320747018
>OWB best
DM is far better
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I fucked Red Lucy today.

It was a good fuck.
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>>320747018
Someone sat down and typed all that out. Was it autism, or was it bait for the autistic fallout crowd. My bet is both.
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>>320748263
Just get the following:
>quest mods (most are lore friendly)
>bug fixes
>JSawyer
>mods that restore cut content, or remove stupid content already in game (like the invisible walls, the preorder bonuses are not given to you straight away)

Everything else is entirely dependent on what you want out of it. I tend to go for things which expand on content or restore things I felt were needed in the vanilla game. I avoid anything that is immersion breaking.

Everything else is option
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>>320748397
>that hand
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A random optional side quest in New Vegas is more complicated than every quest in fallout 4 combined.
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>>320748009
Then why isn't Fallout 4 better than NV you dumbshit.

>>320748340
>enjoying the worst gameplay experience of any modern Fallout
>thinking half decent companions can save it
>despite that still preferring it to the likes of OWB and Point Lookout

Top kek anon
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>>320748912

I let him do the speech with the fake human meat served

But he later run away, and it says you neer see him again

I should have killed him and Get the tophat? I wanted that top hat
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>>320747746
>super mutant tranny
>grandmother equals transexual
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>>320748912
Also at any time you can kill everyone involved in the quests to end the quest, or complete it depending on who you kill.
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>>320747018
This thread will be shit on but I did enjoy new vegas more than fallout 3, in fact I dont plan to get 4 and just pray another new vegas type game is made.
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>>320747746
But it doesn't fucking matter if there are too many shitty personalities companion-wise because you can only have two, and the companions I always get are the grandma nightkin and the cute robot that's basically bumblebee from transformers if he was a floating ball.
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>>320748912
>beyond the beef

I can't ever seem to finish that quest without killing the white gloves
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>>320747746
Lily was a old lady before the fev dumbass
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A random side faction that you can completely avoid and don't run into unless you go out of your way has more detailed story than any of the main factions in 4.

Also you can murder the entire faction at any time if you want to.

Honestly the powder gangers are more fleshed out than any fallout 4 faction.
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We know
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>>320747018
>>low intelligence actually has an impact on what you can say
That only happens in like 2 quests or so.
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Lonesome road was so short and impotent that zeta looked good. Hurr bear and bull and the divide. Not to mention we dont get to talk to ulysses about his tapes after getting them all.
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>>320749246

Nigga I did it without killing them, I can be a white glove is I can now (Which I'll not do anyways[/spoiler]
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>>320747018
While I agree with you on almost all of your points, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the companions bit, at least a small bit. Nick and Curie were both extremely unique to the point where they felt like too strong of a character for the game. Maybe it's just me, but they stood out.
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>>320749170
Quest: Banished from the institute
Objective: Return to the institute
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>>320747018
Too bad NV is a buggy pile of shit.
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>>320747018

I hated OWB because of the grating humor aimed at 13 year olds.

Some of it was cring-inducing reddit tier garbage.

I don't understand how you consider it the best
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>>320749345
>the only good thing about New Vegas was the fact that they were allowed to use Bethesda's engine
This shit can't be real
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>>320749390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XllttBJi98

>25 minutes of unique dialog
>only happens in like 2 quests or so
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>>320749486
Oh shit I'm retarded. Never mind. I completely agree.
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>>320747018

What is the point of this thread?

Is there ANYBODY on /v/, or AT ALL, who seriously considers 3 > NV?
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>>320749398
? You can avoid fighting Ulysses when you get all his tapes.
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>>320749606
Holy shit those graphics updates.
That looks better than Fallout 4.

I only ever played vanilla new vegas no mods or expansions.
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>>320749606
>25 minutes
>slash funny dialogue
Compare to 1/2, where everything is different. Of course, they barely had any VA. Things were easier back then.
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>>320749606
Lmao that video is legendary.
I never knew about all those low int responses.
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>>320749783
still better than 4 and 3 where it's nonexistent
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>>320747746
>Arcade and Lily
>Shitty

Fuck off
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>>320749921
Ehh, I'd prefer consistency probably. I mean, I agree with most other points, I just don't think that one is a good one.
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>>320750010
>Arcade
>anything but the worst humanoid companion
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>>320749703

You'd be surprised. Some of the faggots here and a lot of faggots on Leddit think so, and will even argue straight into hell about it.
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>>320750230
>your opinion
>anything but the objectively wrongest one in this thread
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>>320749703

See

>>320749345
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>>320750230
>Arcade is the worst
>in a game with Felicia Day as a companion
Fuck off
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>>320750565
That's not /v/. The main disagreement here is OWB vs DM.
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>>320750645
honestly didn't even know she was voiced by Felicia Day until today lol
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>>320748912
lol I do like the optional side quest for the poweder ganger where you can kill the guy or talk him away. really deep and complicated stuff.
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>>320750742
if you consider DM to be the best of anything just go die

worst gameplay experience of last gen
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>>320750794
>Hate shitposters
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>>320750742

>>320749703
>or AT ALL, who seriously considers 3 > NV?
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>>320750834
Too intense for you? Too much skill needed to prevent your head from exploding?
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>>320750794
So like all FO4 quests? Except the talking part.
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>>320751023
>skill needed to prevent your head from exploding

oh fuck right off
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>>320751080
I take that as a yes.
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>>320749345
>Which isn't saying much as they had years to make it
>years
I can't believe I share H20 with these people
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>>320750946
Or the quest right at goodspring where you cant make the whole town force the merchant to giving them equipments because you have 1 barter less than what balance man deem acceptable.

Or the quest
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>>320751173
no, it's artificial difficulty and on top of that not fun and an antithesis of everything that makes modern Fallout gameplay remotely enjoyable

add in the fact that the DLC almost railroads you in to using melee or unarmed and the fact that the writing isn't anything particularly special... no it's shit. There's a reason it's the worst received Fallout DLC. If you want a fanbase that loves feeling superior to people for beating something go play the Souls games, at least those actually have well designed gameplay.

Dead Money is putrid shit.
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>>320751056
FO4 has the same talking part :^)
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>>320750230
Jesus Christ anon what is wrong with you
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>>320751416
every npcs are programmed to feel pain, just try crippling their limbs.
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>>320751512
Where? Done almost every single quest except the one for legendary baseball bat.
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>>320751416
lol
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>>320751646
That only happens in F4 where you can literally turn them into quadruple amputees without killing them
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>>320749373
Don't be an idiot. The main quest will introduce you to all factions, give or take a few depending on your faction.
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>>320752072
um, have you ever crippled the legs of enemies in NV or 3... ever?

pretty sure the caption in the Webm was a joke
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>>320752180
you didn't read his post
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>>320751440
>railroads you in to using melee or unarme
I scraped by with various guns for a bit, but eventually you'll have enough chips to keep the police pistol loaded. Then if you gamble at the casino you won't want for chips at all.
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>>320752325
There are no random side factions in Vegas unless you're actively ignoring shit.
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>>320751826
The tutorial quests :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDjyHFtcJG8
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>>320752431
but there's no reason to use the police pistol or automatic rifle compared to the bear trap fist. The ghosts only die from dismemberment which the bear trap fist does by default usually, and the police pistol does shit damage and the ghosts don't take any extra damage to the head.
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>>320748162
*ahem*
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>>320748846
you should see how feet look in the game lmao
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>>320752072
>blow up deathclaw legs than anal fisting him to death
it could've been AAA Hatred, why Todd, why?
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>>320749170
>>320749537
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>>320747018

Fallout New Vegas had a bad story with bad characters such as Benny. Fallout 3's story fits well with the setting and draws the player into the narrative better than New Vegas did
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>>320753293
>Fallout NV had a bad story
>Fallout 3 draws the player better
NV isn't bad, but Fallout 3 IS SHIT
the only reason you see Fallout 3 draws the player in better is because its more streamlined and linear
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>>320749345
you should see all the people making fun of this guy. Calling him a nerd and to get a life. Their best argument is "Who cares. It's just a game"

That's what these people are. Some of them are even on /v/. You've probably seen them.
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>>320753293
Fuck off Todd
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>>320749592
did you beat it?
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>Fallout New Vegas
>You craft how the Mojave ends up and the aftermath of your contact with the factions there
>Fallout 4
>4 endings
>All have the same voice over with just different images
>No Ron Perlman
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>>320753293
if by draws the player into the narrative better you mean RAILROADS THE PLAYER IN TO A NARRATIVE THAT ISN'T EVEN WELL WRITTEN then sure
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>>320747018
ur dum lol
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>>320751440
You get a code for free ammunition like 3 minutes into the dlc.

I, for one, enjoyed the settings and the brutal difficulty that came from losing your equipment and being forced to scavenge again.
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>>320753565
Fuck Pete Hines.
gets BTFO and then basically tells the dude to get a life
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>>320752695
the police pistol has bonus critical damage doesn't it? well that counts for something. also couldn't you just craft satchel charges if you had LR DLC?
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>>320753293
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>>320753565
People don't understand that suspension of disbelief doesn't mean you can do ANYTHING in fiction. Remaining internally consistent is what allows it in the first place.
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>>320753513

It's more personal because it is your dad.

In New Vegas you pursue a guy who shot you. This is ridiculous because it's a whole world of people shooting at you, but you obsess over one fucking guy doing it
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>>320752695
Just shoot them in the head while they lie on the ground. Boom, no more head, no more ghost person. BAR just rips them apart with its stupidly huge damage.
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WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
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>>320753915
Tl;dr
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>>320753669
>You craft how the Mojave ends up and the aftermath of your contact with the factions there
there is no post game, dum dum.
fo4 actually has one.
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>>320754001
oh you're trolling
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>>320747018
>perks are better balanced
>Jury Rigging
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>>320754001
>new vegas
>got shot by a rich dangerous dude
>while delivering shit for another possibly rich and dangerous dude
>no escape the mojave objective
shit game desu
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>>320754027

Why are you posting this?
No one disagrees that the end of FO3 was stupid as fuck and only redeemed with Broken Steel.

I never once heard someone argue that the ending in the vanilla game is at all good.
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>>320750645
>>320747746
>people are still triggered about Felicia Day
Veronica was one of the better companions in the game and it seems like the only reason people bitch about her is that she's voiced by felicia day and happens to be a lesbian.
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>>320754126
I'm honestly not sure what you mean to imply with that post
Fallout NV has a proper ending like how most of the Fallouts do, mainly because your actions would probably have far reaching consequences that the games can't properly show after the ending
Fallout 4 continuing after the ending and all the settlements raising a little flag of the faction you chose is just proof of how little involvement the story has on the world
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>>320754001
>It's more personal because it is Liam Neeson
Fixed.

Seriously, that's all your Dad has going character wise. New Vegas would have hooked people if Danny DeVito played Benny or some shit.
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>>320754350
>it seems like the only reason people bitch about her is that she's voiced by felicia day
Also pretty much nobody ever complained about that until like a year ago. Most of the time it was like "Oh, I don't like her other stuff but she was good in this".
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>>320754350
>happens to be a lesbian
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>>320754350
thank you anon
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>>320754459
...Benny was played by that guy from Friends.
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>>320754350
I didn't even realize it was Felicia Day because Veronica wasn't a meek little nerd.
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>>320754580
>>320754459
Matthew Perry is Benny's actor
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>>320751345
Buy or find a magazine. Goodsprings is a good starting point. It really lets the player know what they're in for.
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>[CHR 10] Skip Gameplay

Why do westaboos think this is a good thing?
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>>320754313
Just letting people know that YOU HAD TO BUY THE DLC TO GET THE BETTER ENDING.

YOU HAD TO PAY BETHESDA TO FIX THEIR MISTAKE.
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>>320754580
>>320754668
Matthew perry was pretty bad though
>smooth moves like smooth little babies
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>>320754668
>Matthew Perry

Does he have fans or something
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>>320754795

Just going to ignore that the DLC also had a new region and a few hours of content?
Its not like you're ONLY paying for the ending to not be shit.
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>>320754350
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>>320754849
>not liking Benny
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>>320754098
>reading is hard
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>>320754861
Does Liam Neeson? He played a Batman antagonist in the most boring movie of grimdark trilogy (not the worst though), a boring Jedi in the most boring SW prequel movie (and also probably the worst one) and in some really trashy action movies.

Oh, and there was that one movie with wolves I've been meaning to see.
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Do you think the modding community will find a way to incorporate Fallout 4's armor systems into Fallout 3 and New Vegas? What about settlements?
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>>320747018
>being this much of an eleitist
yeah, in the grand scheme NV is likely a better game, but why does that matter? The nature of RPG's is that they tend to be less fun an subsequent playthroughs and im pretty sure most of us have played NV to death that this point.

So at that point of course Fallout 4 is going to seem better because its new and fresh and you are able to get that feeling of discovery again. Its the same reason peopel go out and watch new movies rather than sit aroundand watch casablanca or citizen kane over and over again. Objective quality is often trumped by the newness of an experience when it comes to enjoyability.
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Only reason why new Vegas had so much content is that was basically one graphics glitch away from a text adventure.
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>>320755045
His one good film was Schindler's List, the rest are either lame or are meme trash like Taken.
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>>320754884
>OH SHIT WE GOTTA THINK OF A WAY TO SELL MORE DLC BUT OUR PROTAGONIST IS DEAD

>NO HE'S NOT

>WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

>WHAT IF WE COULD GIVE THE PLAYER THE OPTION TO SEND SOMEONE ELSE IN. SOMEONE IMMUNE TO RADIATION?

>ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED. THAT WOULD NEVER WORK. THIS IS THE HERO'S JOURNEY.

>OR WE COULD JUST MAKE THE DLC TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE FINAL ENDING OF THE GAME?
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>>320755045
Still beats Friends being the peak of your career
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>>320747018

they're both super boring either way
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>>320755045
Star wars you retard.
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>>320755146

Settlements are based on a FO3 mod that has been in works for ages.
You can't add armor attach points to meshes without making brand new meshes, which I doubt anyone will bother with.
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>>320755207
I forgot he even was in that.

>>320755248
I guess. At least Perry voiced an actually good Fallout game, so it evens it out a bit!
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DID SOMEONE SAY VOICE-ACTING?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fBFZxztVuc
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>>320754994
Well, it does make sense then if he prefers Fallout 3.
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>>320755314
I see reading is not one of your strong points.
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>>320754454
>You craft how the Mojave ends up and the aftermath of your contact with the factions there
and one of them will be canonised in new vegas 2 if it exists. just like fallout 2 to 1. Meanwhile Todd must keep the post game in mind when designing the dlcs so simplyfing some elements are fitting.
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>>320755248
Friends is world famous though
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Lads playing fallout 4 and I can't find any t51 power armour. Are there any guaranteed locations that font spawn any other armour?
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>>320748397
>swn call you her hunter as she aggressively rides you
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>>320755045
>Taken
>Darkman
>The Grey
>Schindler's List
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>>320755524
just console it. who fucking care. your starting pa is more than enough to beat the game.
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>>320755557
Darkman was actually pretty fun.
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>>320755045
I like Neesons voice.

He does tend to do shitty action movies though, but I think he gets sucked into it due to how he sounds, and his angry face being perfect for a villain.

Its like Steve Blum. Guy is ALWAYS killed in anything hes in simply because he has a good 'oh shit I'm dying' face.
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>>320755524
If you're too high for it to spawn anymore the Atom Cats might still sell it.
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>>320755524

Coc qasmoke
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>>320755623
I'm collecting
Also I'm not on pc ;_;
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>>320755850
Sell the game, the console, find a job and buy a pc before goty edition hit next year
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but the world is shit compared to FO4
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>>320755656
>Steve Blum

Did you perhaps mean Sean Bean?
Steve Blum does not do any actual acting, so his face is irrelevant.
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>>320747018
>it is incredibly important that people agree with me on the internet

Grow up.
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>>320755379
Fucking rekt
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>>320747018
all those points are basically one: "better roleplay".

Fallout 4 is "better graphics and mechanics".

4 > NV
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>>320756071
I still prefer no gf to going through raiders and super mutants for a french robot.
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>>320756282
>roleplaying isnt the central mechanic thematically in a role playing game.
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>>320756071
they took this same approach in 4. Also written by the same guys that did 3.
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>>320754001
>In New Vegas you pursue a guy who shot you. This is ridiculous because it's a whole world of people shooting at you, but you obsess over one fucking guy doing it
Well not only did he shoot you in the face, but he also took something from you, which was probably important.
Who cares if its more personal, doesn't make a shit story good
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>>320756427
> role playing game
you mean 'action rpg"
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>>320756282
Fallout 4 is not an RPG
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>>320756642
you mean "action game with rpg elements"?
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>>320756530

For as much as people bitch about the flimsy excuse for BoS/Super Mutants/etc. etc. to appear in a location that they shouldn't, I'm sure many more people would be much more upset if they were not present at all.
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>>320756282
>>320756642
>RPG
>ROLE PLAYING game
Also crafting mechanic is shit and easily outdone by any mmo or previous installment of fallout and that's the only new thing
They actually took out mechanics from New Vegas like food production and karma, so your argument is literally grafix
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Is it possible to change the level cap in Sawyer's mod? It bothers me that you end on an odd level, and miss out on picking a perk when you cap out.
Or are there other mods that do all the item and alignment changes Sawyer does but are compatible with PN Rebalance?
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>>320755352
I love this video
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>friends
>fiends

Bravo obsidian
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>>320756936
>cooking
still there
>karma
stupid shit to shove in a world of "grey moral and ambiguous choices" from fallout 1.
>crafting outdone by mmo
so does new vegas crafting. a good thing because mmo is grind for resource and skill for gears to grind again, not "what should i do with these resource"
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>>320756936
>or previous installment of fallout
just not true. You're basically saying "no crafting system is better than a Fo4".
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>>320748949

Fallout 4 is infinitely better.
>Actually has dungeons
>No copy-pasted shacks
>Improved weapon mod system
>more food
>more difficult
>More companions
>more interesting companions
>Quests have depth, no "go down the road and kill ants" bullshit.
>better gameplay overall
>settlement building
>better music
>more content
>No faggots shoved into the game
>morally grey factions, no blatantly evil factions like the Legion
>longer dungeons
>junk items are actually useful
>respawning locations (more replayability)
>less retarded AI
>better graphics
>melee no longer OP
>ammo harder to come by
>kill-moves
>voiced protagonist
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>>320748912
7 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSJ1jfRVX14
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>>320748912
>Fallout 4 has even LESS quests than 3
What the FUCK
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>>320756530

I like the explanation in that pic. Sums up everything wrong with every Beth game after oblivion.

In Fo3 you have:
- city built around a radioactive bomb (using airplane parts, why not just use the airport ruins)
- city built inside a giant ship (makes logical sense, but fuck it was impleteled badly. There are almost no civilians in rivet city and the hangar isn't large enough for airplanes)
- city built inside the pentagon (which, in theory, should be a crater)
- city built way up on top of a freeway overpass (there's no water or ability to grow food up there)
- water purifier built into the jefferson memorial (doesn't make any sense, especially when there's a water plant further north up the river, just south of the freeway overpass)

Fo4 is marginally better in this regard, as the Minutemen's headquarters is a generic suburb (Sanctuary), the RR underneath a ruined church (though how they got their original HQ, a DISA office, makes no sense), the BoS an airship docked at an airport, and CIT underneath CIT. What doesn't make sense though is all the actual lore (especially everything behind CIT) that attempts to try to tie it all together.
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>>320756936

Karma is subjective.
It makes a lot more sense to have companions dislike actions than have some magical unseen force deciding what you're doing is bad.

I actually really liked how the handled it in a way that does not involve some sort of background counter or score system, and instead made it feel more natural.
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>>320757331
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>>320757331
>>Quests have depth, no "go down the road and kill ants" bullshit.
there are ant enforcer, ant suicider and ant skirmisher now. good stuff.
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>>320749703
that's the difference between this thread and fallout 4.
even if there aren't many of them, this thread takes into account the people with 1 intelligence.
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>>320757375
Literally the only quests I can remember are Silver Shroud and the U.S.S Constitution, the latter not even being that good
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>>320757375
it actually has infinite quests :^)
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>>320754475
fucking this. until recently everybody was fine with her
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>>320748912
Well, yeah, Obsidian has god tier writers, while Bethesda's are worse than shit tier
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>>320757426
Nobody gives a shit about karma unless you are a jesus.

Reputation was one of the nv's best things
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>>320757331
the only good thing about Fallout 4 is that it shows the capabilities of what Obsidian can improve
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>>320757421
>city built around a radioactive bomb
they don't know there is radiation near the bomb, and there is probably no water near the airport ruins.

>city built way up on top of a freeway overpass (there's no water or ability to grow food up there
trading, perhaps.
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>>320757770
There's no water near the bomb either.
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>>320757702
>obshit after july 2015
>god tier writer
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>>320757770
ITS A FUCKING A BOMB YOU NIGLET

and nutjob childrwn surely know about radiation
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>>320757770
There is literally no way to justify Megaton
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>>320757848
>current year

NV came out in 2010 so it doesn't really mater
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>>320757827
There is a small bond of pisswater
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>>320757936
's cool
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>>320757770
You're probably one of the people who will try to justify that kid trapped in a fridge for 200 years
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>>320757770

>they don't know there is radiation near the bomb

so, they wouldn't notice themselves slowly dying? True, but regardless the original survivors would know what a bomb looked like.

>and there is probably no water near the airport ruins.

they are technically in the airport ruins, it's just that beth didn't add any airport stuff besides jet engines on megaton's front door

>trading, perhaps.

Arefu is a dead end. It's actually a huge pain to get up there. Lots of security, but also no water access. And you're a very good target for snipers.
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>>320756983
pretty sure there's a compatibility patch for PN and JSawyer
I mean shit I'm using it
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>>320757770
>trading

And they would provide what, exactly?
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>>320757770
actually it would make sense that everyone doesn't know the bomb is radioactive. Every single person in the east coast is retarded.
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>>320757827
near the bomb, there is. Not only that, they have one building for producing water. Probably underground.

>>320757929
knowing about radiation, and knowing an inactive bomb have radiation are two different things

>>320757936
it has water.
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>>320747018
Personally would love it if high intelligence and very low intelligence had a chance to pass checks.

Making the idiot savant perk the funtime perk
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>>320757848
Sawyer is a better writer than Avellone
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>>320758031
Why contain it?
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>>320757421

The second main quest in Fallout 4 is you taking the MM from a literal themepark (the museum of history in concord) to sanctuary. What I don't get, is why they don't stay in the MoH even though it's more secure than sanctuary, and Concord has water access (you can go into the sewers, the door to them is easy to miss). Concord itself always stuck me as strange because like Nahant it's an actual city but nobody seems to live in it for some reason, even though it would be easy to defend (by walling off the streets).
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>>320758184
engine limitation
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>>320756093
Maybe.

I'm not good with names.
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>Obsidian will never get Gonzalez, Avellone and Mitsoda together
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>>320757702
the lead writer guy is John Gonzalez
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Is Willow a shitty companion? People say she's great, but she seems too forced. I don't trust anyone I can't fire.
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>>320758029
Where did this small puddle come from? It doesn't rain in DC. Is it literally piss?
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>>320758460
She's shit

The best companion mods are Sunny, Marcus and Ulysses
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>>320758037
..retcon?

>they wouldn't notice themselves slowly dying?
more likely, they wouldn't get That close to the bomb all the time so they wouldn't die. I'm not saying drinking that water is the best option, but it is an option atleast.

>>320758068
>And they would provide what, exactly?
a good position for trading?
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>>320755248
Friends is literally the biggest sitcom of all time
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>>320758460
she's fucking awful unless you're into that waifu shit. Most companion mods are terrible, I like Russel but that's about it
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Since we're talking about Fallout New Vegas I guess it would be appropriate to talk about the Lead Designer. What do you guys think of him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2chWLlfFI
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>>320758956
not him but thanks i was wondering about companion mods too.

I hate waifufags and I think they are a cancer killing RPGs.
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>>320758991
is this your first time in a fallout thread or something?
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We've been arguing about this for FIVE FUCKING YEARS.
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>>320758991
He has autism and he loved fallout

I like him
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>>320759108
they're the cancer that killed /tesg/ and are now working on /fog/ but that's about it. Don't give them that much credit
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>>320758991
Sawyer's the man
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>>320752574
I have never done that quest and I have completed the game with every faction.
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>>320758084
i guess we already talked about how that pic related doesn't make sense.
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>>320759196
where is the homo rape, Josh?
Fucking misogynist cisscum
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>>320747018
>>perks every other level lead to a much better and balanced progression
>perks are better balanced (Grim Reaper's Sprint nerf for example)
Cowboy was a straight up boost to most weapons that are actually useful
Rapid fire weapons with low DAM were useless as fuck due to DR

>>hardcore mode which enables several things that should be default like Stimpacks healing over time and ammo having weight
Hardcore mode is also trivialized by allowing fast travel still and food still healing is dumb.
>better shooting
It was just as shitty as FO3's
>Jury Rigging
Felt kind of something everyone had to get to be honest, it was just that good

>Disguise system
Very half assed. Same for a lot of the faction stuff outside of their questlines.

NV is infinitely better than FO3, I'm mostly just griping about things I wish were handled better
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>>320755146

There's a mod called Tailor Maid that lets you equip armor pieces onto a base.
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>>320759497
Yes Man, at the very least, makes you visit nearly every side faction. If you chose to slaughter or ignore them, of course you don't get their quest. Exceptions being the Powder Gangers, who are shoved in your face at the beginning, and the Kings, who the NCR make you deal with. The Followers might be the only one the main quest will never direct you at, but it's likely you'll run into them on your way to Vegas or doing the Kings shit.
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>>320759839
>Rapid fire weapons with low DAM were useless as fuck due to DR
>He's never mulched through fucking everything using 10mm plinking round SMGs
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>>320759839
>Rapid fire weapons with low DAM were useless as fuck due to DR
a lot of common threats don't have DT (hi cazadores)

also AP ammo existed
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>>320751440
God, yes. I hated Dead Money with such a passion. It felt very linear, the environment was unappealing - which is an achievement for a Fallout game. The enemies there were just, annoying.
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>>320760047
The SMGs were satisfying as fuck aside from the Tommy Gun (In my opinion) though I must admit revolvers is much more satisfying.
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>>320759839
i actually like equipment durability decay.

i think Jury Rigging should be removed and I think I have an alternative to that.

You create a single Repair Kit and it's an item that has no weight and is now a multiple use item. You add miscellaneous items in the repair kit and this fills up a meter and you use the kit on your weapons and armor.
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>>320751440
>the writing isn't particularly special

Really? I thought the whole theme of letting go and how if you don't it'll kill you was superb
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>>320758956

Do you use the Bounty Hunter mod alongside Russel?
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>>320757331
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>>320760663
I use all of someguy's mods. Best NV modder there is as far as I'm concerned
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>>320758567

Too bad the person that did the Sunny mod didn't go as far as the Fallout 3 modder who hired the original actress to expand on the treasure hunter npc.
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>>320760763
who is this NPC?
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>>320760612
>You add miscellaneous items in the repair kit and this fills up a meter and you use the kit on your weapons and

That's actually great idea for mod tho.
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>>320749129
>attack him while he's running away
>kill him before he escapes
Not hard senpai
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Quick, claim your raifu. Or any weaponfu, we don't discriminate here.
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What bothers me is that the great war was fought over oil, but fucking robots use some sort of fuel both to fly and as flamethrower. And there is flamer fuel everywhere. I don't know maybe they make that fuel some other way.
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>>320761256
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>>320760878

Sydney.
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>>320761256
HOLORIFLE IS GOD AND I AM ITS PROPHET
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>>320761290
stole from the army.
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>>320760612

I just used the realistic repair mod.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34898/?

It comes with multi use repair kits. Also having a wrench boosts the repair.
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>>320760047
>>320760272
I just didn't think AP rounds did enough.

It probably doesn't help that rifles and such broke through DR like nothing too.
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>>320761446
>stole from the army
but that was dumb why would army use fuel for weaponry rather then for transportation
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>>320761616
-15 DT is enough for everything but the heaviest armour users. 5mm AP actually has -25DT modifier, even.
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>>320761616
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/43557/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54490/?

Use one of the Signature Weapon mods to pump up their killing power?
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>>320751440
depends when you go through it. Going through it early makes it easier and a quick adventure. Going through it later makes enemies huge sponges and is super fucking annoying. I generally didn't enjoy it either way though.

It also heavily caters to certain builds making it really easy or hard depending on that as well.
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>>320761979

What level do you recommend?
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>>320761979
>Going through it early makes it easier and a quick adventure.
Hah, I guess that's why I found it pretty easy.
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>>320760663
>>320760759
While Russell is one of Someguy's best legitimate mods, his best companion mod is actually pic related, and you cannot deny this.

Also, Someguy is the best mod writer and designer, but otherwise I have to hand it to Hitman. Holy fucking shit, he's made New Vegas a much more visually appreciable game and ammo/condition checking is one of the best 'simple' mods around.
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>>320761640
They didnt use flamer at war but still keep them in storage maybe.
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>>320761616
At average -15 to -20 DT, AP rounds are fucking great for everything short of power armor enemies (Which you fight at most one faction of once in base game) and I THINK high level Deathclaws, but I don't remember if that's due to a mod or not.

That's the bgi thing with NV, alternate round times are in most cases BETTER than their base types in every way - HP rounds can fuck up just about everything with singleshot guns and AP rounds are great for automatic weapons.
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I try not to go autistic over people who prefer 3 but I'll never understand it, in my eyes NV is just a better version of that game
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>>320761861
>Balanced
I used the OP as shit Sweet Revenge as a Signature Weapon on modded Very Hard and it's still pretty goddamn balanced compared to the shit that'll usually one-shot me.
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>>320761290
>>320761446
>>320761640

It makes more sense if you remember the original bits of lore from Fo1. Basically, preceding the great war was also plauges going around killing everyone. This resulted in a hugely increased demand for automation, most bots running off uranium (or batteries). However, the regular person still had gas powered cars (the common fusion ones is beth's shit writing), so when oil prices spiked the economy collapsed even harder.

Anyway, at the end of it the military had nicer tech than civilians, so it makes sense that some of their bots were nuclear powered. Mr. Handys were luxury appliances, like the Corvega was too. If Beth had any respect for the original lore they wouldn't have run over this in Fo3 and Fo4. I also don't get the Mr Handy fuel thing either, because they're clearly not powered by propane (or whatever it is) and they don't drop nuclear material (as opposed to Mr Gutsys).
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>>320762338
i would have much preferred an intelligent Super Mutant
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>>320762549
HP is actually kind of a weird round and I don't like it. All AP ammo is -15 except for 5mm which is -25 (because base 5mm is -10). Claws max out at 15 DT so AP works well against them.
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