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Defend this, Soulsfags.
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I think the area itself is redeemable. good enough gimmick I don't mind it

but the fact that it leads up to the shittiest boss in the series, god damn
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Never played Dark Souls 2.
That area looks cool as fuck.
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>>320724713
No one likes this area.
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>>320724962
Yeah it sure is fun running around in an empty area with zero visibility while some horses ram you in the ass and spam magic.
It sure is fun having to walk all the way to the boss and suffer with the shitty level design every time you die.
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It was fun to invade there.
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Fuck the run and fuck the boss at the end of it.

I can do every dark souls boss without issue, but those two giant cats constantly split up and wreck me from off camera. The cheapness combined with the 15 minutes of navigation through the snow you have to do EVERY time means that it's just never worth it.

Best GS in the game though.
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path to blue smelter demon was way worse
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>>320725182
That area is the worst designed area in a video game. Be thankful that you haven't suffered through it.
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>>320724962

I don't know why people have issues with the tigers. I haven't fought them since the DLC came out but I remember one of them just staying to one side and shooting really slow projectiles at you while you fight the other one. I've never had any problems with the fight.
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>playing with greathammer
>2H R2 pancakes reindeer
>beat the boss first try

I never even realized people had problems with this area.
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>>320725437
the second tiger jumps down rather quickly and fucks your shit up
>>320725290
there's a certain sense of exploration and fear to it, the horses themselves weren't too terrible to fight but getting ambushed by them is terrifying

perhaps the execution was worse than the concept
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>>320724713
This area is meant for co-op.
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>>320725419
At least you could see where you're going to in the area before the blue Smelter Demon and it was like a 1 minute run.
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>>320725361
YOU MONSTER
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>>320724713
G I T
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>>320724713
git gud
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>>320725443
>2H R2 pancakes reindeer

I AM A FUCKING IDIOT
WHY DID I NOT DO THIS
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>>320725443
>greathammer
Brother
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>>320725665
>>320725670
>>>/leddit/
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git gud u faggot lol
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Currently going through the DLCs.

Mostly fun areas with some cool designs.

But the boss runs, jesu cristo. I'm not sure if from thought they needed to add playing time to pad out the DLCs or what, but they are fucking unbearable.
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>>320725536
>perhaps the execution was worse than the concept
Dark Souls 2: the post
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>>320725443
What about when 2 of them agro at the same time?
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>>320725410
How much endurance did you have? I only completed the area after KILLING EVERY LAST REINDEER
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>>320725761
You realize this meme originated here right?
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>>320725832
Spin to win
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>>320725443
STR greathammer build is more cheap than dark magic build. Though Dark souls babies will never admit it
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>>320725898

He's a 4Chan hipster, the moment a meme leaks out of here he refuses to use it because it's Mainstream.
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>>320725817
I think some asshole the team wanted to emulate Demon's Souls, and how in that game you'd have to redo entire levels in order to get to the Boss in like, 4-2 for example.

So all the optional bosses with the linked summoning points work like that.
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>>320725638
Nothing more fun than blocking people from progressing, tbqh.

Also I'm dressed as Maldron, so whereever I am I must also troll
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>>320725419
Profound still.
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>>320725985

I actually laughed out loud when I found out where you go after you defeat the blue smelter demon. Well played, From.
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>>320725978
You can also tell he's a filthy casual that only started posting here when reddit was still wordfiltered.
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>>320725745
Fuck these motherfuckers too.
>whoops where did all your health go, what is poise lol
Worse than wheel skellies ever were
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>>320726103
I don't remember what that was. I think you got a wig at the end of it?
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>>320725603
>mfw solo
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>>320725985
They're not THAT bad.

Except Blue Smelter, his fucking gauntlet especially.

Sinh too, but he's more annoying than hard, and only as a character without a real ranged alternative.
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It was my favourite area since the Valley of Defilement in DeS

>moving slowly from cabin to cabin
>trying to take everything in during the brief moments of respite
>seeing enemies off in the distance and trying to gauge what they are
>finding out that you can use the sun to navigate during the snowstorms
>seeing the thunderhorsecock silhouetted as it flies past the Sun in the middle of the storm

The boss was shit, but the level itself was phenomenal. Ever since I got good, I never thought a Souls game would give me that same feeling of despair that I got from VoD. This stage had it in spades.

I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy it OP.
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>>320725974
>cheap
look faggot, i like to play the game with the weapons that are the most fun for me to use. i'm not having dick measuring contests with dipshits neets who only use fists and fight naked on ng+100.
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>>320725182
Search "Frigid Outskirts" on youtube and tell me what you think.
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>>320726213

The area loops back around and drops you off next to the mid-tower bonfire. The entire iron passage was pointless and there's nothing at the end of it.
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>>320724962
This, I like the area but two cats is awful
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>>320726245
The way to smelter is only hard if you want the extra goodies in the optional path, which aren't that great anyway.
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>>320725421
>That area is the worst designed area in a video game
Lol
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>>320725974
>>320725443
What's the best great hammer?
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>>320726245
Holy shit I just realized I can't remember the names of any of these places. Shows you how much of an impression DaS2 left.

But in the first DLC underground city thing, I don't mean Sinh, I mean the gank squad. The path leading up to that is less extreme than the other two DLCs, but it's still an obsctacle you have to keep going through.

>>320726354
They were all kind of pointless. But you got a wig, right? Or was it a crying mask?
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>>320726354
>The entire iron passage was pointless and there's nothing at the end of it.
you get a mask that doubles your fire defence
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>>320726302
you use the easiest setup and then brag about how easy the game is. Have some decency you cocksucker.
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>>320726430
It's almost universally agreed to be the hardest run in Souls, anon.
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>>320724713
>Designed for co op

It's this simple faggots.
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>>320725974
Strength weapibs in Dark Souls 2 are harder to play with in the end, so I must disagree.
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>>320726564
Then I must have gotten gud. I did it alone in two tries with no magic and a bellkeeper bow, not even maxed out.
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>>320726485
>But in the first DLC underground city thing, I don't mean Sinh, I mean the gank squad. The path leading up to that is less extreme than the other two DLCs, but it's still an obsctacle you have to keep going through.
That area took me all of 5 seconds to get through and when I was exploring it it wasn't too hard. But fuck trying to get the npc summons through it to help with the gank squad.
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>>320725817
>Boss runs

The only bosses you should have trouble with in DKS2 DLC have a bonfire right next to them. Stop being shit
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>>320726601
than you probably dont know shit about the game. Great clubs make PVE a cakewalk but are absolutely trash in PVP
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>>320726296
>finding out that you can use the sun to navigate during the snowstorms
This was probably the coolest touch

It was a surprisingly organic bit of game design, coming from B Team
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>>320726796
2cats doesn't.
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>>320726227
>mfw reaching the boss solo
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>>320724713
>mfw I never found the key to unlock this area
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>>320726796
Are you kidding? The two tigers fight is probably the hardest boss in the entire game.

Why the fuck do they have a random weapon degradation effect?
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>>320726812
K brah
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>>320726762
>But fuck trying to get the npc summons through it to help with the gank squad.
poor babby

Gan Squad really isn't that hard to solo. The arena is maze-like and clearly designed to be used to split them up.
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Every dlc had a godawful gauntlet leading to a terrible boss recolor. That one was the most interesting of the 3, but had the stupidest boss.
As I was fighting 2cat I was like, "At least it's not as dumb as the 3 NPCs", and then they casted Regen
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>>320726178
And they look extremely lame too, just like the rest of the game.
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>>320726817
>coming from B Team

PRAISE THE SUN XD

Fuck off.
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>>320726296
>he liked valley of defilement
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>>320726951
>>Gan Squad really isn't that hard to solo.
It was harder than anything in the base game and if fighting them using that strategy was some of the most boring shit ever.
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>>320726975
Sunken king didn't have any rehash

>he didn't enjoy the graverobbers

That fight was fucking great, one of my favourite fights in all the dlcs
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>>320724713
you actually have to kill your tauntaun at that point and spend the night inside the carcass. there are no indications of this which is a little fucky, but it does serve as an effective casualfilter
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>>320726851
>>320726935

Here you go >>320726582
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>>320727072
Damage control: the post
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>>320727158
No, you >>320726227
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>>320727120
> fighting them using that strategy was some of the most boring shit ever
YOLO
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>>320727085
I loved valley of defilement.
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>>320726476
Drakekeeper's Great Hammer is probably the best all-around since it matches the Demon's Greathammer in damage, but is a normal titanite weapon and weighs significantly less. It can be a pain to farm depending on your luck though. All the base-game great hammers have really similar movesets, so it's mostly preference.

The strongest and biggest would be the Smelter Hammer, but it's also the slowest and will probably be the last one you get.
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>>320727085
it was awesome, go to hell
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>>320727085
faaaaaaaag
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>>320727328
>It can be a pain to farm depending on your luck though
Wait it can't be found in a chest?
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>>320726541
not even the guy you replied to, but that wasn't bragging.
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>>320727521
It drops off the hammer bros on the walk up to the ancient dragon. Since there are only 2 and they despawn after however many kills, it might take a while. My last playthrough I ended up having that stairway at like NG+4 before I got one.
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>>320727303
Samesies. The whole world filled me with dread, trying to steadily make my way upwards all the time having to look over my shoulder to avoid getting ganged up on. Those damn thin walkways and the bleak atmosphere, I really dug that shit.

And then to get to the very end with Astrea and Vinland...woah.

it wasn't perfect though, I hate that one giant swamp where you can find Selen, that shit was more annoying than Blighttown framerate
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>>320727227
You must think I'm a Souls Fag born from the cancer that spawned in this cesspool and then spread to the whole community. I'm not though, i largely avoided memes and e-celeb horseshit while playing this series and came up with my own opinions instead of just being a parrot shit. That opinion is DKS2 is the best game in the series.
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>>320727698
What about the one in Shrine of Amana?
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>>320727270
And? I never summoned in a souls game, ever. I did that shit solo too.
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>>320727557
>not even the guy you replied to
yeah sure :^)

>look guise I beat the boss first try eyes blindfolded
>omg some people actually cant beat it?! No way
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>>320727303
Fuck knee high water in Demon's Souls. So glad they got rid of that.
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>>320727716
> I hate that one giant swamp where you can find Selen
What's wrong with that part?
The enemies wont' even chase you down here, and finding Selen is super easy.
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I broke my tv trying to get past that shitty part (I don't know the name of it ) where there's like angels singing and fucking mages spamming blue balls at me.
>mfw
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>>320727840
I've never seen one there. Maybe they put one there in Scholars?
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>>320724713
I won't defend DS2, no.
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>>320728000
I haven't played that part in a while, but I just remember being really annoyed with it and dying a lot there, idk why.

the part with the cavern and the slugs also somehow tripped me up a lot on my first playthrough
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>>320728131
Yep they randomly put one near the second bonfire in Shirine of Amana. It's like magic spamming and water monsters wasn't enough.
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>>320727085
I can't choose between it and latria for my favorite.
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>>320727916
Still better than this.
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Shrine of Amana was the worst area in all of vanilla DaS2. No contest.
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>>320728131
>>320728327
It's an Old Knight not a Drakekeeper, Dragon Rider also defends a bridge.
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>>320728109
They nerfed that area like 5 times and it's still terrible
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>>320728109

kek

that part was pretty hard
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>>320728423
What is that, Harvest Valley? Yeah that was shit, but it was like three parts of that level, two of which were optional. You spend maybe five minutes tops in poison.

5-2 was pure ass because of how fucked up rolling got in knee high water, and they way it'd go dead for a couple of precious seconds after you emerged out of the water onto land.

Although I guess you can make the same optional argument, since there's very few enemies you actually need to fight in the swamp.
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>>320727891

Go outside
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>>320724713

>defend dual wielding

I can't. It's a pointless feature.
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>>320727698
I used a bonfire ascetic at the in the bull statue, a red pphantom appears there and he may drop it. You for need to keep using advetics to farm him though.
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>>320728109
>>320728496
>>320728565

How people can be sos hit at video games in a video game discussion board never ceases to amaze me. That area is a fucking joke now after all the nerfs, if you can't dodge for shit then just use a fucking ranged attack and snipe them all before they even realize you are dead. Seriously, what is the problem here?
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>>320728425
So that's what it's called...
I broke my fucking to during that part.
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>>320728742

Why are you so mad, bro?
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>>320728742
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>>320728672
Did you even play this game, memelord?
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>>320728742
>implying I didn't play the game before the nerfs.
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>>320728742
Don't bother, /v/ is shit at games. All you'll get is memes.
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>>320728742
Calm down, my main man. I bet you didn't do a melee build in the Japanese version before they nerfed it going over to the West.
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>>320728742
From drones, everyone.
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>>320728742
I put the game down at this point on NG+5. Just got bored with it.
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>>320728838
I'm not, don't let all those typos full you!
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>>320729005
>full
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>all those people who don't use great shields and heavy armor
There's a reason why every protag is covered in the heaviest armor in the cover, take a hint from it
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>>320726476
Sanctum Mace if that counts, although it's only viable in pvp due to its durability. Still, it's super fucking fun.
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>>320729185
>not going in naked with an ultra greatsword

do you even dex bro
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>>320727718
Care to elaborate?
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>>320726337
I've never played Souls games and I'm not the person you quoted, but this faggot makes it look pretty easy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfWSU29mUGc
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Very Immersive area. I enjoyed how It was similar to The 4 Kings in if you fucked up on the quick killing, youre screwed.
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>>320725443
greathammer master race
smelter hammer +10 was ridiculous
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>>320729139
Today is another bad day...

Fuck, am i dying?
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>>320729323
He's clearly overleveled.
His hp takes half the fucking screen.
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>>320729297
It's his opinion that DaS2 is the best souls game. What more is there to elaborate on?
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>>320729185
Form>function bro.
When you are good you don't get hit anyway and it always better to look good while doing so.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOhy-2LrNA4
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>>320729745
Heavy armor looks the best though
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>>320729323
It is easy, don't listen to these scrubs. They most likely can't even level 1 the first game.
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>>320729859
Havels looks like plastic.
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>>320729648
I'm just curious why he thinks that.
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>>320729975
In DS2 that is.
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>>320729323
I can't even imagine the disappointment of beating such a long and intense area just to find out that the boss at the end is a cheap, shameless rehash.
I'm glad I skipped the dlc.
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>>320730415
It should have been expected since all of the DLC optional area bosses are just rehashes. Blue Smelter, gank squad, and 2tiger.
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so I have like 500 hours in ds2+ds2sotfs, and I havent played it in like three months. I'm getting an itch to go back and do some pvp, maybe even a challenge run, but my rational brain is telling me that I've literally done every single thing there is to do.

What would you suggest for someone in my situation? I don't have cheatengine set up (and last time I tried using it in sotfs it was janky af), but I have like seven different profiles with different builds and shit. I probably have like 200 hours in a anvil wielding gyrm cosplay (and probably like 100 hours in gyrm maidens/greataxe berserkers/even that shitty normal gyrm axe) but I've probably used every weapon archtype to proficiency. idk.
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>>320731276
Do dual shields
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>>320731568
senpai I literally got to the first level in the arena with orma and reeves after playing through the game normally with dual shields until that point. The only non-autistic gimmick pve run I haven't done is ranged only, and even then I've done loads of ranged only pvp. thats my dilema.
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>>320731568
>>320731869
not to be dismissive, and thanks for the response, but I feel like trying to eke out more enjoyment of this game is a fools errand at this point.
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>>320724713
Survival

Betterment

Literally literal skill literally
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>>320724713
>Soulsfags.
I prefer "connoisseur of good quality vidya" thank you very much.

If you're not a "soulsfag" then you got no heart and are just casual. Now fuck off.
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>>320726337
That just led me to footage of upskirts in antartica
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