where were you when this class was put into the dumpster by valve?
2007, when the game was released
>Put into the dumpster
>Like 10 Phlogs in every game now
Ayy
Playing Heavy, like always.
>>320667307
This
F2P babbies crying over the minor nerf to the easiest puff-and-sting combo don't know shit
>>320667307
>>320667471
>pyro was nerfed upon release
The backburner nerf was where it started you plebs.
>>320667545
He was nerfed on release. The flamethrower had no falloff during the beta.
>20+ Health extinguishing teamates
>All Flamethrowers do more damage long range
>Become literal god with Phlog
All they did was replace puff n sting meta with W+M1 meta.
>>320667545
He was fucking garbage pretty much up until the Pyro update, at which point he was slightly less garbage. The class was "put into the dumpster" right at the start.
>>320667545
uh no, pyro was entirely fucking gimped on day 1 release of tf2 compared to pic related.
>>320667690
Much better. Phlog takes more skill than retards on Valve servers give it credit for, anyway, but it's very good at killing massive idiots.
>>320667643
>>320667728
>i swear i have been playing tf2 this long
fuck off kids
>>320667782
I seriously doubt you played that, but even if you did the comparison is retarded because of lolnogrenades
>He doesn't play Backburner with Scorch shot
>>320667917
I wish I was a kid :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjRBrg0ZR5A
you literally all have nothing to complain about
i thought the pyro was in the dumpster since the start
i don't know, i haven't played in years
>>320667817
Is this a joke?
>>320667917
>i seriously doubt you played that
I was an admin on biscuitservers for a while, sport
>>320667917
>i swear i have been playing tf2 this long
I don't have to swear shit, they gave us proof. Fuck off, retard.
>>320668089
Nope. Phlog actually makes him play like vanilla Pyro, except not massively underpowered.
>>320667817
No it really isn't. Puff and Sting was bullshit but it's still far and beyond better then W+M1. I do like the 20+ health tho, but Phlog needs a rework as well as Pyro himself. There's still something missing and I can't put my finger on it.
>>320668156
>leaving out the second half of that quote
>>320668213
lol guess youre just retarded thenIve got one of those too, you arent special
>>320668484
"W+M1" is an excuse used by shitters for thinking the basic function of the Pyro is a bad one. The Phlog does that: being rewarded for diving into big groups of enemies and making them retreat is what the original Pyro was meant to do. Now that fire has gotten a bazillion ways of getting rid of it since, the killing power for that kind of playstyle needed to be upped, which is exactly what the Phlog does. It's a good weapon, fits the class and has very major drawbacks. I kind of get that it looks dumb, but positioning yourself well to make full use of something like this can be a harder task than the pretty braindead puff and sting Pyro play that you see around now anyway.
If you want to complain about something, complain about how it takes away the sentry-protecting and extinguishing abilities from the Pyro, which is a detriment to teammates.
>>320667229
Stay mad puff n shitter
real pyro got buffed
>>320668642
I wasn't saying I was special, dipshit. I was saying your dumbass "you probably didn't even play then" was retarded.
>>320668763
>probably
guess you dont know what that word means
Airblast was a huge mistake.
>>320668660
So easy a caveman can do it
post yfw it feels like classic 2007 pyro again using the phlog
>>320668862
I do, actually, and shouldn't have put it there because you didn't actually say it. Guess I was giving you the benefit of the doubt as no-one can be that shitty.
>>320668642
yeah there are no grenades, who's fault is that? robin walker, the man who created quake tf, tfc, and tf2
he is directly responsible for everything wrong with tf2, including it being less than half of qtf on release with tons of completely removed features
like why the fuck doesnt anyone have deployables anymore besides grenades? demoman detpack, pyro lava hole, engineer laser drone, etc.
>>320668484
>Literally 8 years after the game's release
>There are people that STILL can't walk backwards and shoot the Pyro to death
>There are people that STILL try to say that the Pyro is not the hands-down worse class in the game
>There are people that STILL don't know that the flamethrower is outDPS'd by near every single weapon in the game
>Muh W+M1
if the class is so bad why do people complain the hardest when they're killed by him?
>>320669028
>We're gonna nerf the pyro.
>Except for the phlog.
>>320669162
He received a massive buff, dumbfuck.
>>320669224
Yes, but it's fucking W+M1 pyro buffing.
>>320668660
Vanilla Pyro was always the weakest class though. It was easy killing one thats running straight for you and the excuse of it being an "ambush" class doesn't work when almost every class with the exception of Sniper can easily kill you when ambushing. It promotes a playstyle that takes little skill and others can do slightly better, until the airblast and even then they're many replacements for it.
>>320669308
>implying the Phlog is good
I meant this, though:
> Changed: The base Flamethrower's damage fall off over distance has been decreased, resulting in higher damage output at range
>>320667229
>pyro
>bad
>>320669335
He was weak as fuck, but that was more due to him barely doing any damage. Still though, at least in vanilla people panicked with a Pyro around because there were very few ways (just medics, dispensers, and healthpacks) to get rid of fire. That changed completely over time, almost every class has something against him now.
And ambushing takes skill, TF2 is a very position based game and actually getting into someone's grill with the little range you have should get you rewards when you're playing the Pyro, because he's meant to be the best CQC class, in the same way getting behind someone as a Spy or getting above someone with the Soldier should rewards those classes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
>>320668484
>Puff and Sting was bullshit
It really wasn't unless you were a shitter who didn't know how to go backwards. Pyro was never very strong during release except maybe the original backburner days.
>>320669308
>if I don't agree with it, then it's not a buff!
>>320669308
>Bawww W+M1!!!11!1!1
Who gives a shit?
>the fixed the glitch with the sapper preview already
I was really looking forward to being a dick with that tonight.
>>320667229
Why does it matter when only 4/9 of the classes actually by virtue of design anyway? Everyone else is just really situational
>>320667229
why were grenades removed in TF2?
>>320671072
does anyone have any idea what this post is trying to say
>>320671207
They were just moved to a single class
>>320667932
>Using Backburner ever
>>320667229
Good
I hope this encourages all those kids to master a real class this time
>>320671640
>he doesn't want to do extra damage for free
Literally the only builds you could ever go with Pyro is
Degreaser
Default Shotgun
Axtinguisher
or
Degreaser
Detonator
Neon Annihilator
>>320671676
t. xX_mArKeT_gArDnEr_Xx
>>320671886
Not everyone sucks with the Pyro, bruh. Stop projecting your shit skills on the actual Pyrobros.
>>320671490
The main competitive classes (Scout, Soldier, Demo, Medic) are practically staples in a team
The rest may or may not be entirely shitty but they feel so much more situation-dependent and less versatile
No one's noticing how Soldier got fucked in the ass by this update?
>>320672007
I think you forgot a whole bunch of words in your original post
>>320672007
That's because they are all medium classes except for the medic.
>All these fucking kids crying about Degreaser in the trash
>Mfw I always used full stock and shit on people
ABLOO BLOO VALVE TOOK AWAY MY CRUTCHES HOW DO I WALK ABLOO BLOO
>use the phlog on Dustbowl with a pocket medic
The fucking tears
>>320669147
>W+M1
so the thing everyone but snipers do to move in the game?
>>320672087
One of the strongest classes in the game had some of his strongest weapons nerfed in generally very minor ways? Who gives a shit?
>>320672103
Going over it again you're right, I forgot the word 'matter'
>>320671739
>A hit to the back is instant kill
Fuck that bullshit, only noobs and killjoys use that, it pisses me to no end
>>320672087
How? A bunch of meme weapons got nerfed. Who cares?
>>320672172
>being medic
>pocketing a phlog pyro whole game
>kicked
Shit was so cash
>>320672252
Not my problem you suck, buddy.
>>320670234
It's a lot less fun to play as than puff and sting.
>He doesnt use shotgun on pyro
>He relies on his flamethrower
![giphy[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/RveNBqg.gif "giphy[1].gif")
>>320672536
>Pyro's without shotguns
I dont understand what was wrong with the puffnsting. Why did valve nerf it to death?
It was just an alternative way to play the class.
>>320672886
>It was the only way to play the class
FTFY
>>320672886
It was the only way to play the class, which was the problem.
>>320672886
>why can't i steamroll using melee heavy, it's so unfair ;_;
>>320672950
>he sucks at using Pyro
>>320672886
I rather prefer to be a Pybbro and help my fellows engies
>>320672449
Oh sorry, I misunderstood. I just thought you were an another one of those retards who still couldn't deal with one of the weakest classes in the game when I heard W+M1. It's burned into my autism by now.
TF2 is boring as fuck now that every server I liked is dead. Volvo servers matchmaking killed TF2.
>>320672809
>Running into enemy pyros that have flareguns while I have a shotgun
thanks for the free kills m8
>>320672996
>Puffnsting
>steamrolling anything
You dont get to say anyone is bad at tf2 buddy
>>320672809
>retards influenced by pubstar shit heads posting frag videos of themselves getting tons of EPIC airshots with the flaregun
>>320672886
Actual legitimate problem with puff n sting: It pretty much pigeonholes pyro into a degreaser/axetinguisher loadout since it's the best CQC loadout unless the class you really wanted to play was the extinguisher or the sapper remover.
Retard's problem(the most likely reason it was nerfed both then and now): He killed me so it's bullshit, Valve! God forbid pyros have an upper hand at close quarters.
I'm still mad that the Axetinguisher got nerfed
Buying the orange box on release day?
stop making tf2 threads on here
>>320672252
the true killjoy pyro players were the ones who use reserve shitter and degreaser.
>>320674080
>stop making a thread about a video game on a board dedicated to them
>>320674285
fuck off already loser
>>320674383
You got me, good one you massive autist
>>320674481
stop responding to me
>>320674545
sorry
>>320674580
retard
not playing that garbage game anymore
![kino_no_tabi_06[h264.vorbis][niizk].mkv_snapshot_19.05_[2015.08.15_22.36.08].png](https://i.imgur.com/jXx3b0d.png "kino_no_tabi_06[h264.vorbis][niizk].mkv_snapshot_19.05_[2015.08.15_22.36.08].png")
>>320667229
>mfw vanilla flamethrower master race
>>320674481
You play tf2, I don't think you have any right to call anyone an autist
>>320667690
Could phlog+manmelter finally be good?
>>320667917
>>320668642
lmao what is your problem dude? do you have aspergers?
People still care about this game? Come on guys, it's nearly been nine years now.
>phlog pyros get a temporary uber when they use their ability
>>320674916
>9 years ago was 9 years ago
anon pls
>>320674916
>why do people like stuff i dont?
>>320674285
>>320675148
samefag
>>320674703
Nah I haven't played in a few years, just wanted to see how the pyro got shafted
>>320674703
>you play this game I don't like, so you're X
rocks and glass houses, man.
>>320675260
If I wasn't playing TF2 right now I'd prove you wrong.
>>320675484
k samefag
>>320672154
>the only weapon that increases pyro skill ceiling got nerfed
>good thing I'm a complete tosser and was never good anyway
No anon, you are the crutch.
>>320675260
You got me
>>320675934
>mobile
that explains the shitposting
I see nothing to complain about. Niggas just play pyro wrong and they think the class sucks because they don't know what they're doing. Very much a hit and run play style. You have to try to ambush people in an almost spy like manner hence the existence of the back burner. Don't stand there like a dumbass and not expect to get killed. The people that complain about this probably have never reflected a projectile before or bothered to extinguish their teammates. They gave idiots the phlog if you don't want to help anyone and people still suck at this class. What are you guys gay or something?
>>320668975
and soldier is the pinnacle of skill
>>320678157
I guess it's a really easy way to know who sucks balls at this game. They just need to say that the Pyro is the worst class or whatever and then you know they are total scrubs.
A rather pleasing development. Maybe the epic combo trickshot pros will now actually do what they should.
So they killed the Pyro.
God fucking damn, as a Soldier/Pyro player i'm really pissed off.
For fucking sake, they literally nerfed everything about that class.
>>320680840
You don't sound like a Pyro player at all.
>>320681037
Because i'm mostly a Soldier. mostly a degreaser/Flaregun guy.
They nerfed muh axe, They nerfed muh powerjack, they nerfed the flamethrowers so many time i can't even count it anymore
>>320681168
>he's a puff-n-stinger
Sucks to be you, I suppose.
>pyro literally worthless at everything now
pyro could not exist and nothing would change
thanks b4nny
>>320681260
more like puff and flare but k
Why are Pyro mains so much more autistic than Heavy mains?
>hightower
>playing Scout
>Pyro with Unusual and ugly cosmetic shit follows me to spawn door
>get inside door before he can reach me
>stare at him, he pretends to leave
>walk to the door just enough to trigger it to open, walk back
>he waves his mouse around, firing like a retard out the door
>do this 3 more times, same thing happens every time
>type "lol"
>switch to Reserve Pyro
>shit talks like a mad man immediately while I stand out the door giving thumbs up
>kill him
>types "lol, cute" and similar things
>he's acting like he's holding back his power level
>dominate him, call his class useless
>he goes off on how i'm shit at his main, even though I don't even play it
>entire server literally lolling at him for getting mad at me for playing his shit class
Pyros even more of a joke class now
Really considering getting the Mannrobics taunt.
I have both of the other dance taunts, and I get so much fun out of being totally useless, I don't know what to do.
Somebody talk me out of it.
>smissmass 2015
>new pyro changes
>flare gun now fires marshmallows
>flamethrower is now a super soaker
>airblast now costs 200 ammo
>pyro has been removed from the game for being too confusing for new players
Why did they nerf the targe, did they want to take away any reason to use it at all? Why nerf the Zatoichi so fucking hard? Also holy shit that axtinguisher penalty, even when the degreaser gets nerfed they balance the other weapons around it.
I can't believe they're dumbing down an already incredibly casual game. Soon Sniper won't be able to headshot, Scout will have a sprint meter that changes him to pyro speed when he's not sprinting, and Spy will backstab from all angles
>>320668072
>Crona
>Dissing on cry baby pyro fags
muh nigga
>>320682450
Why are Scout mains such bloggers?
>>320682450
>hightower player
Opinion discarded
Let me guess you're also a muselk fanboy and spend all your time on r/tf2?
>>320675804
>the only weapon that increases pyro skill ceiling
You mean "free crits: the weapon"? Puff n' sting has existed since the airblast was introduced, the degreaser just made it so they had to balance EVERY secondary & melee around it.
The degreaser was a mistake.
>>320682608
>complains about valve dumbing down the game
>defends the biggest crutch in the game and random crits: the sword
>>320678821
jeremy pls
>Join a server
>Randomly join a team
>Everyone is just dancing with the new Mannrobics taunt while I watch the payload fall off the side as we lose.
It's a great taunt though, if you get several of the same classes together and get them to time their moves right, you can get some interesting pictures.
>shorter range than heavy and less damage than a scout but none of the benefits that come with those classes
Just what exactly is pyro good at?
>>320683425
Finding spies which nobody decent will play.
>>320683076
Are you seriously trying to say that the Zatoichi was a good weapon? It destroys pubs but that's it, you can shut it down easily if you just stay the fuck away.
>>320682453
It's actually a really fun taunt.
I never buy anything from the store, but I bought that taunt.
Go for it anon.I know you're going to, anyway.
>>320683991
It looks really good, especially since you can do different moves with primary and secondary fire.
Maybe if I try someone else's first, I'll be tempted to get one of my own, that'd probably tip me over the line.
That and I've got a decent "exercise Heavy" loadout.
>>320682556
His shotgun will also be replaced with a rescue ranger.
>>320683703
That isn't an option if he has booties, he outruns fucking everything and melee mechanics punishes players for running away.
this game is shit now
>community servers are either dead, or just outsourced valve servers
>valve servers have 3-6 chucklefucks that think stacking sniper/spy is how to win the game
>no matter what you say, even if you have the highest score, no one will listen and they'll just doom themselves
>valve continues to release half-baked maps and updates that are always full of small bugs
why is it not dead, why can't people see this bullshit
>ctf_landfall
>no walk-brass
>>320675018
they already had health regen and damage resists
whoever added that was doing some serious drugs
>>320675018
>>320685796
this is the same way it was when the phlog was first introduced. it was the first nerf they did to it, mostly due to a number of exploits it enabled (both permanent uber glitching and also out-of-bounds accessing).
it really is unnecessary, not gonna argue that. just a small history lesson.
>>320667229
awww is baby mad that the most useless class was changed in a way you didnt want?
>>320685213
If he has booties that means he either has no projectiles or no shield. If he has no projectiles then you can take of him at range before he even gets close enough to hit you. All combat classes have an option to deal with his charge assuming he doesn't ambush you, but if he gets the drop on you then he SHOULD have an advantage with a melee only loadout.
If he doesn't have a shield then he has no way to close the distance quickly without sacrificing health, and hes even easier to deal with once he gets close.
>>320667229
Where were you when THE VACC IS BACK BABY
>>320667229
Daily reminder trading killed tf2 by making everyone retarded
>>320687235
>If he has no projectiles then you can take of him at range before he even gets close enough to hit you
good luck landing 3 direct pipes or rockets before he catches up to you with medic speed or fills up his charge
>All combat classes have an option to deal with his charge assuming he doesn't ambush you
None that can deal with him faster than he can get in melee range.
>ambush
there is a difference between having the advantage and just flat out shitting on everything instantly with less health than a heavy and THEN getting your teammates killed as well because he has full health again.
>>320687624
TF2 had a bittersweet ending for me.
I quit in maybe 2011 when the cancer finally became unbearable but I jewed a shitload of buds and bills before I left and cashed out with 500 bucks or so.
>Base Jumper no longer hovers when ignited
Why the fuck would they remove this? Were floating MG soldiers holding down m1 really a problem?
>>320687930
Demos have it the roughest I agree, but you're acting like you're helpless to do anything to him. Nade him while he's charging, sticky the ground and explode it under him, or just charge away yourself if you have a shield. You don't have to insta kill him, you just need to keep him away for a few seconds. Fuck even if he starts to get in melee range you can melee him yourself, he should be worn down from the fire you've put on him.
>None that can deal with him faster than he can get in melee range.
Rocket jump away? Stay at range as scout? Stickies/stickyjump? Burn him down as heavy? Airblast? Hell, you can even snap headshot him unless hes's using the tide turner
>there is a difference between having the advantage and just flat out shitting on everything instantly with less health than a heavy and THEN getting your teammates killed as well because he has full health again.
He had the same melee as everyone else, charge instakills are bullshit yes but the rest of the group has to deal with a charge-less demoknight. The only ones really fucked by anymore than usual are lone medic-soldier/demo pairs getting ambushed since they have to way to quickly get away or create distance without abandoning the medic, assuming they survive the charge at all
>>320689678
>Nade him while he's charging, sticky the ground and explode it under him, or just charge away yourself if you have a shield
How many times do I have to see this retarded argument on /v/? The only shield crippled by KB is the tide turner and even then tide turner lets him dodge, targe ignores everything but natascha and airblast.
>or just charge away yourself if you have a shield
brilliant, solve the problem with the problem
>you just need to keep him away for a few seconds.
Until what? This is a class who rolls crits every other swing, has heavy health, can charge towards or away from you at any time with no chance of escaping, and moves as fast as a medic.
No matter how you look at it demoknight is fucking obscenely powerful and the only justification is "well at least its not stickies lol"
> you can melee him yourself
He has more range than you and this is multiplied if you are backpedaling.
>He had the same melee as everyone else
No other class can immediately get in someones face, tank 300 damage, and do 200 damage crits in the span of a few seconds.
>but the rest of the group has to deal with a charge-less demoknight
weapons designed with the drawback of hurting the rest of your team for using it is is disgusting and you should be ashamed for defending it.
>>320675018
This is how I feel right now.
>>320690884
edit* read that last part wrong, even without charge he still just gained 300 health back and his crit chance increased.
>>320690884
>The only shield crippled by KB is the tide turner
shoot his feet and pop him up, knock him off course. You aren't going to just shoot him horizontally, you just need to stop him from charging directly to you
>or just charge away yourself if you have a shield
>brilliant, solve the problem with the problem
So now mobility is a problem? even though the sticky jump accomplishes the same fucking thing?
>Until what?
Until you whittle his health down?
>can charge towards or away from you at any time
No, if he just charged at you he cant charge again or charge away. He has one shot and if you shouldn't let him get two.
>He has more range than you and this is multiplied if you are backpedaling.
If you're meleeing him you won't be backpedaling. and did he really have more range before or are you just assuming it because the eyelander did? I don't really know.
>No other class can immediately get in someones face, tank 300 damage, and do 200 damage crits in the span of a few seconds.
Neither can the demo without getting a kill, and now you're saying other classes cant crit with their melees?
>weapons designed with the drawback of hurting the rest of your team for using it is is disgusting and you should be ashamed for defending it.
lol, k, it just seems like you're asshurt cause cant deal with it. And doesn't hurt the rest of your team, you're creating space for them to move in while you're getting the other team to panic. Unless you mean hurts your team for DYING to it, in which case the soldier banners, eyelander, ubersaw, phlog(which is bullshit), big earner, frontier justice, tide-turner(which is also bullshit) all exist too.
>>320692427
>shoot his feet and pop him up, knock him off course
What actually happens, demoknight goes flying into your face. But yes im sure it's very easy to sweetspot something that moves faster than a bfb scout.
>even though the sticky jump accomplishes the same fucking thing?
Stickyjump costs half a demomans health, charges are free and booties adds more on top of that.
>He has one shot and if you shouldn't let him get two.
He will rarely need two. Either he charges away when he starts losing, or gets his crit and he wins.
>Neither can the demo without getting a kill
Booties or charge lets him get in range instantly, and he can't be killed with anything less than 3 projectiles effectively giving him heavy health.
>and now you're saying other classes cant crit with their melees?
His range and speed give him a large advantage in a melee fight. Lag compensation not included his swords already have more range than your melee weapon, when lag compensation is taken into account the faster the player is moving the further ahead the server predicts he will be effectively giving him more range.
>If you're meleeing him you won't be backpedaling.
Do you not understand TF2's melee system? Players walk in and out to try hit the enemy without getting hit in return. It is not that straightforward. The more reliable option is to stay out of range and shoot him but that is no longer available with booties.
>and did he really have more range before or are you just assuming it because the eyelander did? I don't really know.
As far as I know all swords share the range bonus but the real issue here is booties. The speed is what gives him a tremendous advantage and lets him +forward into groups of enemies and never die.
Who cares? THE WEAPON SWITCH IS THE MOST RETARDED THING ABOUT THE UPDATE NEXT TO THE PHLOG BUFF.
NOW THE SWITCH ANIMATIONS LOOK RUSHED AND SPEEDY, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY CHANGE IT? IT LOOKS HORRIBLE NOW.
>>320682450
Don't lump heavies like me in with retards like that
Pyro is literally the most useless, superfluous, worst class in the game. heavy does everything pyro does but better.
snipers are pussies
>>320693558
>But yes im sure it's very easy to sweetspot something that moves faster than a bfb scout.
As a soldier yeah, its not really that hard. Demos are more screwed in that scenario
>Stickyjump costs half a demomans health, charges are free and booties adds more on top of that.
Charges also have a cool down, have no vertical movement, and can't cover nearly as much ground as a sticky jump can. Meanwhile that other demo has much greater control over his trajectory and can head to a healthkit or higher ground where he can deal with the demoknight at range, this a problem indoors but even junction has enough space to strafe properly.
>His range and speed give him a large advantage in a melee fight
As a melee only class I should hope so.
Listen, at this point I think we're just not going to agree. I think he SHOULD be extremely good in melee since he's sacrificing all ranged options for it. A single crit sticky or nade can do just as much damage, only those can actually be unavoidable.
How tall are ya
>>320667229
>he plays pyro
>>320695478
Spy reporting in
>>320695478
>the Heavy is only six foot four
I find that hard to believe, but alright.
>>320695875
he is also wide, which makes him look bigger
>>320668213
>tfw missed a primeval badge by less than a year
>have to settle for a shitty silver one
>>320691263
Why is a RED Heavy browsing the internet in a BLU base
>>320695478
Oh god the Engineer is a fucking manlet
>>320695478
>tfw Im only little taller than scout
wow
>>320695478
I always thought the medic was the tallest.
I guess it's just because most other classes are fucking hunchbacks when holding their weapons and the nazi stands erect ready to euthanize enemies of the fuhrer
>mfw phlog and scorch shot on dustbowl
>>320668319
>vanilla
>massively underpowered
Git fucking gud son. Stock flamethrower and shotgun is always reliable
I'm sad tide turner got shat on. It probably needed to get nerfed, but no crits is too far.
post esea
>>320695478
>engineer
>>320697165
Except the whole puff n sting metagame evolved from how underpowered the stock flamethrower was.
The shotgun is fine though, I'll give you that.
>>320695478
Sniper height.
I seriously have completely given up on pyro now. The class was only fun to play with degreaser/axe, and now that combo is less than worthless.
so how long before the phlog get's put down again by making the mmmph bar fill by only damage done by the phlog itself
>>320696071
because you are a fucking nigger
>>320700194
You got me
>>320667229
About a year and a half ago when they killed the Axtinguisher.
>>320695478
Manlet Pyro reporting in.
>>320695478
>barely pass the Engi by .9 inches
