About fucking time, thank god.
Fortunately he's not wrong, I hope the VAs strike and help kick them out faster.
So no more games like Bioshock Infinite right?
>>320648252
What, he made a shit game and says it sucked because of the people playing it and not himself?
I mostly play fightin' and brawlin' games. When I'm not in the mood to compete though single player story/character driven games are my favorite. As long as there is some action, not in to super text selecting games.
>Levine said the studio began an "experiment" after finishing BioShock Infinite to help work out how to make games replayable and reactive without giving up the narratively-driven experiences of its previous games. The conclusion—"giving players different ways to approach the problems and really letting them dictate the experience"—sounds not too far off of Levine's earlier efforts, but interestingly he thinks that sort of game is actually on the way out.
>giving the player multiple ways to traverse obstacles
Wow, who would have thought?
>>320648252
If the future of gaming is shallow multiplayer shit like Battlefront then it looks like I'm gonna stop buying games.
>>320648252
Open world MMOs are in!!
>>320648868
He's not the only dev to make a shit game and blame it on players. Always cracks me up.
>Our game was great, the problem is that no one liked it. And that's basically not our fault, but theirs. You see, gamers who bought this game and purchase this genre are actually no longer in to it. Our game was perfect, there's nothing we could have done to make it enjoyable.
>Shit games that are only driven by stories and not their actual gameplay will end
Good I want good gameplay not a sob story
I hope not. I don't really playing multiplayer games and its always nice to get invested in a story in a game.
>>320648252
I was about to say I'd prefer the industry die than everything be multiplayer garbage, then I realised this referred to western games, which are already shitty enough, and more specifically AAA westernshit.
So all is well.
>>320649254
this
>>320649263
and this
What's the fucking point of playing games when you either need friends or it's just boring blowing other people up?
Gay.
>>320649263
Only if its early access though. I want to feel like I'm part of the development process
>>320649268
Movie writers also always say "it's because of the audience, my story was good"
Entitlement pricks.
>>320649503
Go read a book if you want a story.
>>320648252
kill yourself
Fuck off Ken Levine. Your AAA narrative focused game was absolute shit. People who make these kinds of nebulous predictions are wrong 99.9999% of the time. Especially if it comes from a massive pretentious hack like him.
"b-but Bioshock Infinite was so deep and complex and dealt with real world issues"
http://www.abc.net.au/arts/stories/s3733057.htm
Yeah, nah. Fuck that game and fuck Levine. Hope he still gets ass annihilated from all the porn of Elizabeth I continue to wank off to. Because really, that's the only good thing to come out of the game.
>>320649648
>>>/lit/
And stay there.
>>320648252
this is coming at the end of a year where the most popular games are Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and Bloodborne? All single player games?
You guys are fucking retarded
>>320649648
>he doesn't believe that a good story can help elevate a game
>>320649864
>implying B:I had a good story
But otherwise yeah I agree with you.
>>320649789
no he was talking about games like tomb raider and uncharted
besides bloodborne doesn't even have a story just lore
>>320649789
FO4 and Bloodborne are most definitely not "narrative-driven". W3 - it's arguable.
>>320648252
>a bunch of indieshills says their competition is over
does mega64 still do their promos?
>>320649648
>>320649754
Name one game in history that was amazing that didn't have at least an okay story.
>>320648252
>>320649263
It's just a trend
Video games, like every industry has it's own trends and seasons
>>320649934
When did I ever imply that?
>>320650027
Doom.
>>320649648
The experience changes when it's interactive. It can feel more meaningful, and you can become closer to the characters.
>>320648252
Is that because your game was shit Kevin?
>>320648252
>Ken Levine
Freedom Force 3 confirmed?
>>320649864
I'd rather have games like Blood and Douk 3D return than the pretentious tripe Bioshock Infinite that halts your gameplay every few minutes to show off a cutscene that no one gives a shit about.
>>320650027
Quake
>>320650027
any multiplayer game
>>320650178
Agreed. Then again, I also don't like games that are just pure gameplay and no story.
I didn't like Tetris 20 some years and I still don't like it now. The key is finding a nice balance.
>shooters try to be COD
>action adventure try to be Uncharted
>RPGs try to be Skyrim
>multiplayer games try to be ESPORTS
>indie games try to be deep
Everything is fucked.
>>320648252
>I have never played an RPG
>>320650106
>deimos and phobes
>Doom Guy's rabbit
>Literally walking into hell, starts punching demons in the dick, and walks right the fuck out
Dooms story was fucking cool
>>320650027
I guess Tetris.
Though I share your opinion.
>>320650027
any roguelike
>>320650027
Smash TV
>>320649789
but bloodborne has multiplayer
>>320648252
We had MGSV, Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Assassins Creed and many other single player games focused on story. I really don't understands why he says we are lacking it. Fuck this guy, he shut down a entire studio after Bioshock Infinite boom.
>>320650027
Mega Man
Mario
Castlevania
Crash
>>320650027
There are tons, is this a joke post? Games don't need stories, sometimes they are carried by the story. It just all depends.
>>320650532
>Castlevania
Castlevania lore literally falls into Bram's Stoker's Dracula. It's the same fucking universe.
>>320650501
Maybe he means linear games. Those are all open and replayable.
And maybe he's just a dick who can't take the blame for his own failures.
>>320650027_________MGSV______
>>320650106
Had a cool story.
>>320650193
Pretty sure it had an okay story.
>>320650209
>multiplayer
>amazing game
>>320650384
Name one
>>320650416
>amazing
kek
>>320650532
All had okay stories except for maybe Crash but I can't remember
>>320649789
Those are single player games. A single player narrative game is basically a movie with the game play as a secondary component.
>>320650357
Agreed, it was surprisingly good. Did anyone ever find out who was the writer?
>>320650853
>rebuilding earth ought to be a lot more fun
What did he mean by this?
>>320651119
Restoring the population by impregnating every women he can.
>>320649254
>EA are the only people in existance that exist
>>320651119
I was wondering about that too. How can rebuilding something from rubble can be fun when it takes a lot more effort compared to just blowing shit up.
>>320650850
unreal tournament and street fighters were both amazing multiplayer games fag
>>320651119
>>320650850
>opinions : the post
>>320650850
doom never had a story and neither did Mario
>>320649959
>>320649970
>>320650494
>>320650852
Oh, I'm sorry guys, I misunderstood then. ;_;
This is good, single player games were not even games to begin with. The outcome is always scripted, no real losing conditions, more often than not they're just walking/shooting/platforming simulators with cutscenes in between levels.
True games are games were we get to play against other human competitors, other than that and it is just puzzles (tetris, solitaire, mario bros, etc)
>>320651543
It's okay anon. Just don't do it again.
>>320651119
>>320651280
I'm under the impression that he did not enjoy ruining his home planet.
>>320651280
>How can rebuilding something from rubble can be fun when it takes a lot more effort compared to just blowing shit up.
Working hard to build something is a lot more satisfying than destroying something.
>>320651649
>something can't be a game without money being a goal
That's kinda dumb. It means I've lost out on millions when I was a kid playing hide and seek.
>>320651649
>True games are games were we get to play against other human competitors
What about games where you play against yourself? What about games where you play verses an artificial player?
>>320651767
>>320651768
I'm pretty sure you'd find killing a lot more enjoyable than laying a brick wall.
>>320652116
how would you know, you did neither
>>320651917
See the graph, puzzles, toys movies, books, take your pic.
>>320648252
I don't even know what a AAA title game is anyway. I mean I understand games like Call of duty are AAA. but what about games like Rise of the tomb raider? or maybe Xenoblade?
>>320652116
>I'm pretty sure you'd find killing a lot more enjoyable than laying a brick wall.
Maybe if you're a 12 year old boy.
>>320652116
I'm a carpenter. I know for a fact that I enjoy building/repairing more than fucking murder.
Lack of empathy is a sign of autism, anon.
>>320652207
I've killed lots of insects and spiders in my time and each time it felt satisfying.
>>320652830
>killing spiders
subhuman scum
>>320652116
I built a set of stairs once and someone dropped 200 pounds of wood on me, and now it hurts to use a mouse.
Fuck building.
>>320650317
man speaks truth
Good.
Leave the narrative driven games to people who actually give a shit, rather than a team of hundreds or thousands of people just trying to make as much money as possible.
>>320648252
meh
that whole industry has been going down since anita showed up anyway.
I guess it´s time to get life
good bye /v/
we had a good run
>>320653167
See you tomorrow.
>>320653167
>hat whole industry has been going down since anita showed up anyway.
It's been going down since 2007, retard.
>>320648710
Between agents and SAG-AFTRA. It's just not worth it. The voice actors would pull in barely anything.
>>320648252
On the way out? They've already been dead for the last 10-15 years.
>>320652495
Nah, mass destruction sounds way more fun. You're just a stick in the mud.
>falling for Ken's clickbait
>>320649263
Cant wait for more carebears to infest BDO and force Daum/Pearl Abyss to remove OWPVP as a whole.
> Taking a man who reads ponyfag fanfiction seriously
k den
>>320650532
Is this bait?
>>320653425
>tfw remembering how fun games used to be before the seventh gen
Where did it all go so wrong?
>>320652495
Unless you've murdered someone, how could you know for a fact that you prefer building things to murdering someone?
>>320654120
What the fuck are you on about nerd.
>>320654330
Which part didnt you understand?
>>320654254
Especially when you consider that you would be DOOM guy. Running around at 100mph destroying the world with a BFG sounds way more fun than building some faggy house. Huuurr I hit nail with hammer. Yeah, real fun.
>>320648252
What we need is more open world games filled with collectives and great side quests like extract prisoner 05 or kill the raiders at a random location
>>320648252
>>320649095
Tldr: XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X IS GOTY
Tldr: XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X IS GOTY
Tldr: XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X IS GOTY
Tldr: XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X IS GOTY
>>320651298
unreal tournament had pretty good stories attached to the characters, each one you battle has an extensive background that changes on who wins the tournament. 2004 malcom who was the previous winner gets his back broken and one of the teammembers of his dies, causing him to loose and the trophy passes to his rival. so on and so forth you can read all the stories from it.
>>320648710
VAs would be against this. Their main bread and butter is AAA linear narrative games.
It's obvious that VA hampers speech in games, more developers need to turn to text again.
>>320651649
So if I'm reading this correctly, conflicts that do not involve "attacks" are not games? Fuck is this bullshit?
>>320649746
>that article
>references another article on DOOM where they say "What if we could talk to these creatures"
They should play SMT
What's wrong with Triple-A Single Player Narrative games?Those are my favorite kinds of games.
>>320649959
>no story
Spotted an illiterate.
>>320649095
>game devs are literally rediscovering America
jesus christ this industry
>>320657982
Wow f*ck you dude. I was about to go see it.
>>320657982
>>320658147
Seen it coming
>>320648252
if he means walking simulators than thank god, if he means shit like the Witcher 3, or W:NO, then he can go fuck himself
>>320650317
Seeing as how those games [Suck Penis] are fairly new,no.
>>320649648
>he thinks media have monopolies on devices
Lets remove all sounds from the games as well, go listen to music if you want sound.
You wanted visuals? Too bad, go watch a film.
Games are all about user input. Anything else doesn't have a place in games.
>>320648252
yeah and they're getting replaced by mobas, hero shooters and arena battlers.
I don't know which is worse.
>>320650027
There are several but I don't think that's the issue- games have just as much a right to tell a good story as books, movies and even music, they just have to do it in their own way (same as those other mediums do).
Also, while a game doesn't need a story in order to be good, if it has one and the story is just unapologetically bad, it can ruin an otherwise solid game.
Yeah look how hard witcher 3 bombed, no one played it or talked about it and it didn't win any awards, not like the huge runaway success of multiplayer only non-narrative games like evolve, destiny and that other one with the robots that i can't remember the name of.
oh wait
meanwhile competent devs are making a sequel to his baby and bioshock infinite is remembered as shallow waifubait garbage.
>>320660728
Did he comment on System Shock 3 yet? I hope they're not planning to involve him in any way with that game.
>>320651649
>single player games were not even games to begin with
that's idiotic
>The outcome is always scripted, no real losing conditions
that's even more idiotic
>True games are games were we get to play against other human competitors, other than that and it is just puzzles (tetris, solitaire, mario bros, etc)
full retard
>>320648252
Good. Movie games are a burden on the industry
>WE TELL STORY BETTER THAN FILMS XD
No, games are shit for story telling. Just make your game fun retards. Stop trying to be pretentious and exploring taboo subjects because you come across as high school retard that doesn't understand basic math.
>>320660728
>shallow waifubait garbage
Literally describing TW3
>>320661149
Yes. He said that he's working on something similar.
>>320661997
oh yes i remember that part in witcher 3 where i spent the entire game with ciri throwing items at me and dragging me down a corridor
nice try ken
go back to crywanking to r34 of your 'daughter'
>>320654719
Is that Hideo Kojima?
>>320662306
Did you forget the part where you activate batman mode and follow a red line to solve quests?
TW3 did well because it appeals to retards who eat up trash like Game of Thrones.
>>320662438
Nah it's Justin Wong.
>>320651649
What are pen & paper RPGs like Dungeons & Dragons then, which are cooperative rather than competitive?
>>320648252
He's just butthurt because of the development issues Infinite went through.
>>320650852
Were those games every "in"?
What is one? At the end of the day, it is a game so the gameplay has to be a draw. If not, it's a shit movie that expects you to do half the work for no playoff.
>hide behind knee high wall
>try to figure out where you're being shot from
>shoot back
>repeat until cutscene
this is the cancer killing gaming
>>320648252
why do faggots say that but the biggest selling games are triple a single player narrative games?
>>320648252
They're out because fuckboys like Levine brought AAA to the ground
>>320648710
What's happening with this? I've heard literally nothing about this after the first few days.
>>320648252
Kevin Levine wouldn't know shit. He circle jerks with Balinksy and gargles cocks.
>>320650106
>played it the other day with my11 year old nieceon the xbox 360
>felt slow, but was ok, interesting co-op
>decide to check if I have it on my pc after seeing it mentioned in the thread
>DOOOOOOOM
>>320651227
That's the actual EA business plan.
>>320650357
>starts punching demons in the dick
What if they don't have dicks?
Everyone has known this for years, it's why hl3 will never happen.
i dont care. have you played any battlefield or cod campaign in the last 8 years? so fucking boring. i want some player agency in my game. i want some gameplay with my game.
>>320652495
>Not killing and mixing the bones of your slain enemies into the concrete used to build your home
Pleb
>>320650027
Metal Gear Solid5
