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>PS2 and Gamecube were the last consoles that offered hardware
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>PS2 and Gamecube were the last consoles that offered hardware at a price that PC couldn't compete with
>Xbox never had a leg up
>consolefags pay an additional price on top of their ISP bills to play online

PC is the future of gaming. Nintendo is the only company still trying to offer unique hardware; Sony and Microsoft are still trying to strong arm gamers into buying their consoles through exclusive titles.

Console gaming has run it course. The only thing keeping consoles alive is all you literal idiots who still insist on buying them.

Name one current console that's worth its price based solely on the hardware offered.
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Literal idiots that sadly are a lot, so pretty much that makes the consoles to still be alive for some time.
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>>320640372
>it's an r/pcmasterrace post
Only poorfags complain about consoles and exclusives.
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>>320640372
>PS2 and Gamecube were the last consoles that offered hardware at a price that PC couldn't compete with

Oh wow, way to out yourself, millennial. The 360 was actually better than anything on the PC market at the time of its inception and to try to match it you had to churn out an outrageous amount of money.

I simply love how obviously underage these "PEE SEA MASTER RACE" redditors are.

Also,
>consoles will die!
>meanwhile ps4 breaking every record on the book

top fucking kek

you're a walking embarassment
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>>320641341
There's so much wrong with the logic of this post.
>someone who has been comparing PC to console gaming since prior to the PS2 is a millenial

I'm nearly 30. Consoles have had a leg up on PC gaming in cost vs performance specifically for playing games up until consoles tried to emulate the diversity of a PC.

Consoles will die out. They cannot keep up this charade of trying to mimic PCs, but at a greater cost, and expect to live. They've only made it this far on brand recognition alone, yet each generation becomes more and more expensive while PC hardware becomes more and more capable at lower price points to run the same games.

If you're still buying consoles, then you're a fucking moron paying a premium price for namebrand plastic case.
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>>320641341
>The 360 was actually better than anything on the PC market at the time of its inception and to try to match it you had to churn out an outrageous amount of money.

No, it absolutely wasn't, and no, you absolutely didn't.

where do you come up with this shit mate?
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>>320640372
Oh look. This HOT PISS again. Armchair fucking analysts.
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ps2 was such a good console though, that golden age of video game
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>>320640372
i am a pc gamer and i love handhelds
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>>320643030
pretty sure OP was referring to home consoles only
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>>320640372
>Name one current console that's worth its price based solely on the hardware offered.
Why though
I use these things to play video games
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>>320640372
PC Master Race reporting in.

My colleague's and I are all rich here at HQ and own every console even though their aren't very many games for any of them. Only the poor cry.

PC Master Race reporting out.
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>>320640372
But, OP.

Nobody cares.

The PC is a wonderful platform - that is completely useless for online multiplayer beyond the core titles, through a combination of hacking/cheating/aimbotting and microscopic, dying communities.

Don't bother. This is a fact. It's not up for debate.

While I am unable to sit on my couch and play Battlefield with a controller on the PC - on an even playing field, without being disadvantaged by not using M+KB, and with zero hackers/cheaters, PC's are inferior to the closed environments of consoles. Period.

Now fuck off back to Reddit, you faggot.
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>>320643567
>any of those are unique to PC gaming

People hack the shit out of online console titles all the fucking time. By the same token, online communities purge hackers from their servers all the time.

What a fucking pointless argument.
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>>320644112

Awesome.

Tell you what. Show me an example of hacking/aimbotting on the PS4. Just one will do.

Go ahead. I'll wait.
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>>320645258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6e7t_Q6AGk
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>>320643567
>The PC is a wonderful platform - that is completely useless for online multiplayer beyond the core titles, through a combination of hacking/cheating/aimbotting and microscopic, dying communities.
I've been playing online on PC for a decade and I can count the amount of times I've seen someone hack on the fingers of one hand.
Consoletards cry about hacking on PC so much that you'd think every game/match was infested by at least one person with hacks.

>playing FPS games with a controller
Fucking disgusting, this is the epitome of casual.

Now take your own advice.
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>>320643567
>The PC is a wonderful platform - that is completely useless for online multiplayer
Starcraft II
Counter Strike
DOTA II
League of Legends
Any MMO ever created in history
Diablo II
The birth of FPS games and arena shooters in which you commonly play on console today.

>through a combination of hacking/cheating/aimbotting and microscopic, dying communities.
You are clearly talking about FPS games. To the casual consolefag such as yourself, this is your favorite and only genre. The master race let you have our sloppy leftovers years ago. How you feel about FPS's today the master race was there 25 years ago. You're late to the party.

>Don't bother. This is a fact. It's not up for debate.
Nope not one thing you've typed has nothing to do with truth about anything. Only the sad salty opinions of a consolefag.

>While I am unable to sit on my couch and play Battlefield with a controller on the PC - on an even playing field, without being disadvantaged by not using M+KB, and with zero hackers/cheaters,

Where do I even begin with this shit? Haha. This joke pretty much tells itself so no comment.

>PC's are inferior to the closed environments of consoles.
You just went full retard right here.

In the end a consolefag will always be a consolefag. Sad and desperate for our leftovers and for games in general. Forever jealous of the freedom a PC user will always have.
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I would love to drop 3-5 grand on building a HQ PC but to me a lot of PC games have bugs because the gaming industry sometimes don't care for PC. Im speakibg on games that's also made for Consoles.

Im not trying not be bias with this. I have 2 xboxones and 2 ps4s because the wife plays. We both want PCs.

Are the games that much better? I also never played with a keyboard gaming.
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>>320647254
people don't drop 3-5 grand just for gaming purposes.
all you need is about $1200 probably even less depending on where you get the parts you want.

Look up any cheap PC building guide on youtube there are literally hundreds of videos on the topic to walk you through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUpRXRGVHU
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>PC is the future of gaming

Third rate ports and underwhelming timed exclusives.

Well guess that's me done vidya now.

Guess I'll just shitpost on /v/ all day
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Le epic r/masterrace
Guys I just bought a GTX Titty Z Mtn Dew edition so I can benchmark Crysis and play Undertale? Am I masterrace
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>>320643567
>hop on MW2 on console
>Infested with cheaters, unplayable
>Noone has control to kick them

>Hop on MW2 on PC
>Hacker enters lobby
>Gets called out
>Admin removes them

Yup, consoles are great. I love having less control
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>>320640372
>Xbox never had a leg up

Dude what. The original Xbox was better hardware wise than the other two
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>>320648237
indie games are better than most AAA titles that have been released in the past 8 years. So your argument is invalid. Whatever badl;y optimized AAA title the PC gets there is always a mod community behind to make it better than it's console counterpart. Something a console kid wouldn't understand

Not to mention your consoles, other than nintendo have literally no games and need the support of backwards compatibility to survive even after being released for almost 3 years running.
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>>320640372
I play on consoles because I like video games and consoles are the best place to play video games.

I never had the need to make "hardware I don't like should not exist and everything should be pandered to me and my memes" threads. You should reconsider your gaming choices if consoles make you butthurt. Sell your toaster on craiglist and get a PS4 or Xbox One.
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>>320646296
>/r/pcmasterrace the post

Tell me more about how awesome League of Legends is.
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>>320648758
It only had halo and it's sequel. it wasn't known for a vast library of genres like other consoles did during it's time, after all it was M$'s first console. the 360 got more genre's though during it's lifetime. if you could be lucky enough not to get RRoD that is.
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>>320646057
Yeah, you're right.

There's no hacking on the PC. No way.
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>>320642505
>I'm 30
Exactly you're a millennial, people born in the period of 1982- 1996 are millennials or generation y.
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>>320649385
Is that all you have to say?
Couldn't even include a little anime girl in your post like you usually do?
Consolefags don't even try after being utterly destroyed these days holy shit.
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>shitpost
>instantly told to fuck off back to /r/masterrace

IT ISNT FAIR
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>>320646296
>Dead game
>CS:LEL
>F2P
>F2P
>MMO's - none of which anyone cares about besides WoW
>fifteen years old game

Yeah, awesome. Sounds fucking great. /r/pcmasterrace reporting in.
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>>320640372
I'm a mustard and you're fucking retarded. The 360 and the PS3 had absurdly powerful hardware for consoles at the time.
>>320647254
you're a misinformed idiot. My 3D work rig is stupidly high end and only cost about about $2500. You can get away with a $900 rig for gaming if you're actually intelligent and plan out your purchases.
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>>320648762
>b-but muh mods

Only 0.000001% of games released on PC have mod support and an active decent mod community.

>have literally no games and need the support of backwards compatibility to survive
Outside of the Wii U this generation consoles launched without retro compatibility. And PS4 alone sold 30 million + and isn't losing steam. Your argument is retarded, people buy consoles because they have games they want to play on them. GTA V is a legitimate reason to buy a current gen console for the average "gamer".
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>>320640372

Fuck off peasant. Spent all your money on your PC so can't afford anything else?

When you get a job and become real master race you will cringe at posts like yours >>320640372
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>>320649750
>YOU SHOULD PLAY OLD GAMES AND F2P MICROTRANSACTIONWARE LEL U DESTROYED SENPAI

Wow. You sound pretty fucking hardcore, son.
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>>320640372
PC is now becoming a glorified console
>buy physical game disk at full price
>disk contains nothing but a 8mb code for steam download
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>>320649395
How to spot someone who never owned an Xbox. It's the most underrated console of all time
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>>320640372
TIME FOR MEMES!!
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>>320640372
Current top 10 on Steam:

>Console port
>Kickstarter shit
>Console port
>CS:GO
>Console port
>Kerbal... whee
>Console port
>Console port
>Kickstarter shit
>Kickstarter shit

Your future doesn't sound so hot.
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If you go into /r/pcmasterrace's chat it is filled with kids bitching about high school lol
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>>320649750
There's no argueing with you because your "facts" are false, you spread misinformation and you are of bad faith. Do you really expect me to argue angainst your memes?

Eveytime someone makes a decent post explaining the reasoning behind consoles you respond with shit like "lele consolecucks". You've been eating r/pcmasterrace bullshit for far too long. What's the point?
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>>320649856
>>320649929
The shitpostings of irrelevant underage consolefags needs to stop.
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Without using exclusive titles, tell me why you bought your console.
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>>320650263
>ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS SHITPOSTING AND UNDERAGED LEL U REKT

This is a problem.
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>>320640372
should i sell all my consoles and buy a $99999 4chan machine, so i can lurk and troll all day, FUCK YES!! xDDDD
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>>320650263

Oh the irony >>320640372
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>>320640372

>PS2
>better than PC at the time

This is how Sony tries to make you believe their hardware is better than anything else.
They overexaggerated the specs/quality of hardware of the PS4 and now everyone believes that PS4 hardware is better than Xbone.
This is also why PS4 is in the lead.
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>>320640372
>PC is the future of gaming.

Oh boy future PC gaming will be great, playing all those meme games and sharing opinions about how videogames harass women

OH BOY I CANT WAIT TO PLAY ALL THOSE QUALITY PC EXCLUSIVES!
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In what delusional reality is PC gaming associated with children? Consoles are marketed to stupid hipster fucks and kiddies for the same reason mac is so popular among technologically inept shitheads: ease of use.

Consoles are as hipster as mac products.
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>>320650710
>and now everyone believes that PS4 hardware is better than Xbone.

It objectively is.
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>>320640372
PC is will never be the future of gaming, right now PC its just console gaming with steam DRM
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if tablets, laptops and smartphones didnt exist, maybe consoles would die out in a gen or two.

in reality non-mustards buy devices easy to use and dedicated to few tasks, they also dont need to render videos, program, develop games etc.

between an 800$ gaming pc and 500$ laptop/tablet + 300$ console you see what people tend to buy
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>>320650849
Children have overwhelmingly migrated back to PC gaming due to the free games, and the low system overheads of free games. If you honestly believe that it's still 2006, and Xbox Live is a quarantine zone for millenials, you are out of your fucking mind.
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>>320650323
>physical copies (it's a big deal for me)
>closed sony ecosystem (I already have a PS3 and Vita)
>Playing PS4 game on Vita in bed
>Playing local multiplayer with friends
>Playing vidya with friends in general
>Sony exclusives (Uncharted, R&C, David Cage games)
>3rd party exclusives
>I like how easy it is to use and how it's focused on video games, no distractions
>I don't care about 60fps

That's pretty much it for me. I also have a capable PC with an i5 and a 750 which I use for emulation. I just can't play regular vidya on PC.
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>>320649856
He was trying to make a point that those games were unique, and had no attempt on consoles. Are you retarded?
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>>320650323
to be away from people like you
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>>320651083

Uh. No. That wasn't his point. His point was in response to the assertion that consoles provide a superior multiplayer environment due to their closed environment - and he provided a list of what he perceived as superior multiplayer experiences.

Are YOU retarded?
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>>320650710
Damage control more, Microshill. The PS4 runs literally every multiplat better: http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates
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>>320651243
Is it really that important?
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>>320640372
PC gaming was great until 2005, now its just a cancer meme that will never die thanks to videocard jews
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>>320646296
Every time I hear some fat faggot unironically yelling about the master race i just picture you getting kicked out of mcdonalds for complaining too loudly about how small the chairs are
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>>320648758
>>320649395

>Xbox huge was a 733mhz custom pentium 3 and a Nvidia GPU that was equivelent to the GeForce 4 two years before GF4 even released
>Multiplats ran at twice or four times the resolution of the PS2 versions
>Ran an enhanced version of GTA 3 with graphical features not available on PC at the time due to the custom hardware and ran it at 720P 30FPS
>PC Multiplats only caught up when the GeForce 4 was released
>"Xbox never had a leg up in hardware"

Spot the underage faggot
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>>320651325
yes it is, cucklord
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>>320651325
>say the PS4 doesn't have better hardware than the Cuckbox
>gets proved wrong
>LOL IT DOESNT MATTER
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>>320651235
Yes, and they were attempts at genres that never had a multiplayer base. ie Diablo II, CS, and MMOs. All of which started, or were exclusive to PC.
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But anon, I'm already a PC gamer. I have a PS4, a Vita, a 2DS and a Laptop from two years ago. Mine doesn't even had a dedicated GPU, yet I can play every PC exclusive game ever made at max settings, and future exclusives like XCOM 2 will run on it no sweat. I don't understand why people choose to build expensive rigs when Laptops can run every exclusive great, not to mention their portability. But yes, I'm already part of the mustard race, as are 98% of people, I just happen to enjoy Japanese games too.
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>>320651461
Oh man, I so can't play this shit multiplat game because it runs at 900p, my eyes are literally bleeding, fucking Microsoft I'm throwing my Xbone out of the window!
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>>320640372
>cucks trying so hard to convince people to join their memecuck cancer fanbase

no thanks
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>>320651243
>>320651461
>>320651486

>Suddenly Sonyggers

Spotted who's behind the false flag thread
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>>320651036
>without using exclusive titles

Challenge failed. Stay pleb letting companies strong arm you into buying their overpriced shit because "exclusives".
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>>320651235
stop embarrassing yourself tryhard.
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>>320651495
So? That's not what was being discussed. At all. That's something you're talking about for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

I guess you ARE retarded.
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My biggest problem with PC is no physical games. I don't think I've bought more than one or two full price PC games since digital distribution became so common.

>>320640372
>Nintendo is the only company still trying to offer unique hardware; Sony and Microsoft are still trying to strong arm gamers into buying their consoles through exclusive titles.

Exclusives are the reason to buy a Nintendo console more than any other platform. It is the only one left that actually still has a significant amount of exclusives. Almost no games take advantage of their hardware gimmicks.
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>>320651679
that's because you are inferior as a human, you should be a dog or something
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Didn't /v/ ardently maintain for years that there wouldn't be a PS4 and that the PS3 would be the main factor in driving Sony under?
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>>320651745
>lets make a poll on an antisony board
cucks meming hard
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>>320651773
>gets called out
>w-w-well your a tryhard

Alright.
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>>320651745
>80% of /v/ mainly plays on PC
>PC only plebs are butthurt 7/24 about sony
>"gee I wonder how did we get these results on this shitty strawpoll posted in a PC circlejerk thread"

Want to know who actually is the worst fanbase? Look at >>320640372
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>>320645619

Kill yourself.
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>>320651243
Kek, like 5games, and either one runs at 900p while the other is 1080p, or 720p while the other is 900p. With no graphical improvements whatsoever.

Meanwhile youtube is filled with frame rate tests and almost every game has more stable framerates on the bone.
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Can't even argue with the consolefags.
There is no room for debate because they are so set in their own ways and told what to think and believe by sony and M$.

>inb4 some mad, weak malnourished consolefag grovels at my feet with memes
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>>320650710
>now everyone believes that PS4 hardware is better than Xbone.
It is tho. PS4 objectively has better hardware than Xbone, anyone with enough hardware knowledge is gonna tell you the same.

PS4 is in the lead because
>better hardware at a competitive price
>didn't fuck up E3 like Xbone did
>better official support from retailers than both Nintendo and Microsoft (Nintendo doesn't seem to care about Yurop and Japan gives zero fucks about Xbone)
>better 3rd party support
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>>320651958

.
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>>320651760
But they paid for, developed and published the game, what's wrong with them deciding what platform it's released on? Are smaller jap devs who make 3ds games holding them hostage too?
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>>320640372
Frequency is god. Danger is goooooo
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>>320651243

Other than the native 900p for Xbone IIRC both PS4 and Xbone are pretty much the same console.
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>>320652151
>U GUYS ARE SHEEPLE SUCKING MICROSOFT'S COCK
>PRAISE GABEN LEL

Every damn time.
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>>320650807
>cherrypicking
>spouting meme lies
All popular consoles suffer from that same thing that you're trying to attribute to PC only.
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>>320652047
How? I see posts like this every week or so. Just so you know we have posts commemorating the ps4 and Sony every 30 mins.
>why wouldn't you buy a psr4
>ps4 finally has games
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>>320651760
All my other points still stand. Also why should I completely ignore exclusives when it's part of the reason I picked the system? Because you have none and in order to validate your memes you need to misrepresent consoles?

I'm a big fan of Ratchet & Clank since the first game on PS2, why would I build a PC when if I want to play more Ratchet & Clank. Similarly I'm a sucker for Mario Kart, why would I build a PC if I want to play the latest Mario Kart game?
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>>320652151
Why should I build a PC when I can play every exclusive on my laptop?
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>>320652383
check m8
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>>320652512
What, don't you want to play Pillars Of Eternity and Star Citizen? Don't you want to be a hardcore gamer?
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>>320652512
>he's sucking in his gut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh2Tevkj2nQ
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>>320640372

I have been thinking about building a PC but I feel like it'll cost more money to maintain it every year than not do anything with consoles.

How does a budget of $850 sound?
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>>320649979
>still buying physical media

Console plebians, ladies and gentlemen
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>>320652395
The difference is that at least sonyggers make dedicated shitposting threads. PC niggers will go to legitimate threads and shitpost and derail them with their memes. You can't discuss console games anymore without some faggot showing up and derailing the discussion with port begging or general shitposting.
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>>320652525
Your point?
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>>320652738
my god

this guy is a convincing case for euthanasia
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cucks on damage control: the thread
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>>320649914
That's how PC gamers start their conversions.
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>>320652728
Classical western RPGs aren't my thing and wasn't Star Citizen a scam?

Euro Truck Simulator and Kerbal Space Program are nice though but does it make sense to build a PC if I can already play them on my laptop?
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>>320652831
But the best part of having a hobby you love is collecting something physical and proudly displaying it
>gearheads collect cars and parts for their current project
>train autists collect new train cars and track sets
>weaboos collect manga and figurines
>music nerds collect LPs and tour merchandise
>gamers collect consoles and games
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>>320640372
>>PS2 and Gamecube
>and Gamecube
Gamecube was weaker than the PS2 despite being released year and a half later, on top of that it didn't offer better bang for the buck compared to PC, considering that it was released alongside with the Radeon 8000 series which was more powerful than Flipper.
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>>320653574
>PCucks collect butthurt
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>>320641341
>360 good ever
The 360 had a neutered x1950pro chip and that card was pretty damn weak to begin with. It traded blows with a 200$ 7800gt the same chip used in the PS3. Right after the PS3's release nvidia released the 8800gtx which trounced everything that came before it. It was 4x more powerful than all the home consoles combined. It took Amd four generations to catch up to nvidia.
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>>320641057
How much do you get per post and where do I apply for job?
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>>320653617
>Gamecube was weaker than the PS2
Objectively not true. You don't even need to go into technical details, just run both versions of RE4 side by side.

>it didn't offer better bang for the buck compared to PC
Gamecube had a crazy library that shat over everything that was released on PC at the time. There's a reason you're playing gamecube games on PC in 2015.

>he Radeon 8000 series which was more powerful than Flipper
You could buy 3 gamecubes or one gamecube with 3 extra controllers, that GBA thing, and a dozen of good games for the price of a decent 8000 series card.
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>>320653717
These days, more or less
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>>320648662
>no split-screen
This is supposed to be a comparison to consoles, not a comparison to 2001.
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>>320652514
funny
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>>320654225
>Objectively not true.
Objectively true, PS2 provides higher polygon throughput, higher pixel fill rate and more GFLOPS than GC. It comes at a price of an architecture being a mess to program for, but the power is there.
>just run both versions of RE4 side by side
You mean that a shitty quick port of a former GC exclusive is a good metric of a console power? Good to know that we no longer bother with benchmarks and stuff like that.
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