ITT: Heroes who failed in their noble quest, due to factors unrelated to the villans.
>inb4 someone posts Hitler
>>320640016
>>320640251
Its vidya, it counts.
>>320640016
All that talk about benevolence, and all he did was cause suffering to the people who followed him.
>>320641950
As far as the romance is concerned, I would say he's still the nicest guy.
>Liu Bei
>Hero
>Noble
His lying and backstabbing nature certainly wasn't related to the "villains" at least.
>>320640016
>>320640320
Bullshit. He wanted revenge when his brothers were assholes (one of them wasn't even killed by Wu) and got put in their place for their arrogance and he ended up getting several thousand of his own men killed in the process, disgracing himself to an early miserable bedridden death.
Liu Bei deserved everything that happened to him.
He Liu'd too many Beis and paid the price for it.
Cao Cao was the true hero, he is the hero we need. Liu Bei was the villain by perpetuating the chaos and fighting against a Han official while using the Han as his excuse!
