ITT: the game that sent a series tumbling down
>>320637535
I liked 2 more than 1
Gameplay was definitely improved and I personally cared more about the story. It might not mesh with 1 super well plotwise but as a stand alone product, I think its great.
>>320637813
If I wasn't a Big Daddy I think it'd have been a better game.
>>320636168
>>320637891
That would have made it too similar to the original game.
>>320637951
RE4 isn't bad by itself. But it's bad what it did to the RE franchise. Even RE4 had elements of survival horror.
>>320636168
>he doesn't like American Wasteland
OP confirmed for faggot
>>320637813
hipster garbage.
>>320638009
I wouldn't say its bait since like American Wasteland it is a good game but the publishers thought that the parts that people liked about the game were the worst parts of the game
>>320636168
>Diablo 3
>Guild Wars 2
>Fallout 3
>GTA5
I thought the intro for THAW was top notch. The OST was great aswell. Filled with amazing covers.
Its weird. I mean it was probably the easiest of all Tony Hawks. But I liked it almost the most, THUG 1 and 2 has a god like story mode though.
This one deserves its respect. It helped lay out the foreground for greater games like EA's .Skate. It wasn't THUG, but it wasn't a complete rip-off either.
>>320638057
Nah, you don't need to change the playable character so drastically to be 'different than the original game'.
>>320638096
American Wasteland killed the series man. It was no longer a skating game at that point.
>>320636168
Fuck you, I like it more than THUG
>>320638142
Do explain please
>>320638297
Well originally they were going to go full on with the idea of you being a big daddy. As in you would be super durable like a big daddy, individual splicers would be like flies to you.
A lot of ideas fell by the way side between the announcement and the actual release. Though thats a common thing in game development, its still sad we will never see the product that they had initially planned to make.
>>320636168
Nah, American Wasteland was alright.
I don't remember the name, but the one that focused on racing down hills with the skateboard gimmick controller was the true killer.
>>320638310
Why because it took more of a dog-town approach?
Because you can finally get off the board and do other shit rather than skate?
Lets not put THPS on a pedestal. It was just a simple one-run arcade type game. Now its a open-world with missions and an actual story? What is so wrong about that?
>>320638310
By that logic Underground killed the series and not AW.
>>320638604
>
Because you can finally get off the board and do other shit rather than skate?
underground 2 did this first.
>>320638310
>Entire Story mode is about being a skate punk and stealing pieces for the your Skate Ranch
>THAW has a classic mode too
If anything, THUG and it's sequel were less of a skating game than THAW
>>320638540
The actual killer of THPS was not a THPS game.
>>320638782
Helicopter ruined dirt.
>>320638540
Down Hill Jam
The problem with American Wasteland was every fucking mission was a tutorial for something.
At least THUG eventually just gave you straight missions to do without the constant tutorials.
Classic mode was fun though
>>320638868
Shit, you're right.
For as much shit as Skate got, I could never play THPS again after getting so used to Skate. It was just so much more satisfying.
>>320638749
AKSHULLY
The first THUG let you get off your board.
Id say THUG 2 was where the series started going downhill honestly. THUG 1 was in my opinion the last good TH
>>320638432
You have shit taste my man.
>>320638695
Here's the thing, the Underground soundtrack and enviroments were enough to make up for it. They are pretty much the height of creative level design in a tony hawk game. But yeah I didn't like where the series was heading.
>>320639028
I tried getting into thug 1 (my brother got me into 2 first) and i honestly didn't get it, the story was pretty cool, i like how it set up a clear goal but the missions feel really odd, and the car physics were fucking unbearable.
>>320639129
epic meme friend!
>>320638540
Downhill jam was the one about racing,Tony Hawk RIDE was the one with the gimmick skateboard controller.
>>320638868
I don't think this is that true. Skate didn't just kill THPS off, it crippled it and watched it die
Every Hawk game released after Skate was trying to copy it's formula instead of sticking to an arcade style
>Nail the Trick
>Nail the Grab
>Nail the Manual
>Rigger mode
>>320639324
it's true though
bl1 is the only decent game in the series
The game that killed Tony Hawk games for real was THPS5. It was definitely dying even before that but THPS5 killed the series and buried it so deep that there is no chance of recovery.
>>320639247
Well yeah, the car missions were terrible.
Luckily there was only like 1 or 2 max per zone
I appreciate they were trying to mix things up, but the car missions were not very good.
But the actual skating was great.
>>320639430
that's not B/W
>>320637682
Can you really say it sent the series "tumbling down" when there hasn't been a major game since its release?
Also it's not like it ruined the series mechanically. It really didn't do anything special and felt like an expansion that removed slag and added ice element but it wasn't really terrible.
>>320638782
And then Dirt Rally comes and makes Dirt great again.
Kind of like what Grid Autosport tried, but didn't quite achieve
>>320639627
>Hating MP3
Gameplay wise it was the height of the series
>>320639728
>3 guns
>height of the series
It's hard to earn cash in Dirt Rally but it's still better than having everything unlocked from the start like in project cars.
>>320639728
>switching out your weapons to whatever R* wants you to be using after an unskippable cutscene
>height of the series
>>320637951
I liked it :3
>>320639787
>>320639787
I didn't realize a game's quality was decided by how many guns you can hold
>>320639929
Thats annoying but the actual GAMEPLAY, you know the shooting and dodging and all that, that is the height of the series.
>>320639627
Max Payne 3 is not even the same dev, but I like the development of Max and the gameplay is fucking great.
Just too many cutscenes.Also Absolution is a prime example of a good game but a bad *series* game, and anyone who calls it a cover shooter has not played it on anything above easy.Conviction was more of a fuck you than Absolution.Blacklist is good
>>320639960
>>320640012
knew this coming from a mile away.
>its ok when R* does it!
>>320637951
JUST
>>320640012
>picks up a weapon and starting to get use to it and liking it
>oh shit no ammo for you you fucker, now use this shit gun that drops from every enemy.
>>320639575
>A team of modders outplayed Robomodo
>>320640072
Not even the argument they're making. Fuck off, kike.
>>320640072
You haven't given any good reasons why its terrible other than "Muh gun limit" and the fact that the game forces you to start with certain guns at certain parts. The former is a subjective thing and the latter is annoying but hardly enough to make it the downfall of the entire series.
>>320640271
>defending a company
>call others a kike
>>320637951
Perfect example
Great game in it's own right but did irreparable damage to the IP in terms of direction.
>>320636168
It had one big redeeming feature.
Mmm. I'd grind her rail if you catch my drift.
>>320640059
I know people love to point out the FPS sections and that one webm where Fisher is running away from explosions and shit in some linear set-piece, but is the game actually good outside of those sequences?
How is it compared to conviction?
>>320640602
>Boot clipping
I never noticed that before
>>320640520
>Great game in it's own right but did irreparable damage to the IP in terms of direction.
I hate when people use this argument on DmC.
Even if it's released as a standalone game the gameplays are sub-par, if it hasn't been released under the name DMC it will probably garnered a memegame status around here because of its edgy dialogue.
not that anyone would look at it in the first place if it hasn't had the name DMC slapped onto it.
>>320639008
Amen, I remember playing a demo of THPS after playing the Skate series, and I couldn't believe how clunky and arcady it was.
Literally just holding the ollie button, didn't matter if my character was pushing the skate board or not, but speed picked up like, 5x.
>>320640602
>grind her rail
Disgusting skater trash.
>>320640602
>first seeing her
AWW YEA--
>her voice is just Cree Summer doing her normal voice
Ohhhhh...
>>320637951
The mobile game is pretty good for what it is. Although it doesnt lag as bad on tablet...
>>320640602
Holy shit, this game DID NOT AGE WELL AT ALL
>>320639430
should have posted Black and White numbnuts.
Halo: Reach. Too lazy to find an image. Reach was where the game started taking too many cues from Call of Duty. Not to say CoD is a bad game, it does a lot of things that work in itself, but Halo's draw was never being CoD in space. It was being it's own game with a distinctly different feeling.
>>320640747
You do realize a lot of people liked it, not even just talking about reviewers.
I personally thought it was okay. It wasn't what I wanted from DMC at all, but as a standalone game it was a 7-8/10 for me gameplay wise. The dialogue was super edgy and tryhard, but Dante did get better as the story went along, even if just somewhat.
Honestly my biggest dissapointment was just how they started using too many color coded enemies. Really limited your options when you can only use one type of weapon in your arsenal against so many enemies. If not for that, Id say it was easily an 8
>>320640792
I was just using a skateboarding-related euphemism for intercourse because, you know, Tony Hawk.
>>320640872
Cree Summer's normal voice is still diamond-boner-inducing though.
>>320641074
socom 4 was actually the nail in the coffin
>>320641086
>You do realize a lot of people liked it, not even just talking about reviewers.
That is not a valid argument and you fucking know it.
You can say it's fun and you like it but saying it can get away with its flaws just because a bunch of other people also like it is not a valid argument.
>>320641102
I mean yeah, but it kinda didn't fit at all.
>>320640872
that was 100% my experience as well anon.
>>320640250
not sure why you posted the best game in the series
>>320641086
>You do realize a lot of people liked it, not even just talking about reviewers.
No one bought it though.
>>320641396
Hot girl, hot voice. I'd say it fits.
>>320641582
>Doing s mission half of the aliens are running in little circles staring at the ground,
>>320641492
because you are autism
>>320642042
fuck off tr4sh kiddie
>>320642256
>gets mad at any criticism
When well meme-lee fags learn?Don't bother replying to this.
This game was absolute garbage. There was few redeemable things if any in this shitstorm.
>>320636168
>ITT: the game that sent a series tumbling down
>Most of the games posted are my favorite in the series
i accept it
>>320636168
Fuck you, I liked it
Better than U2
>>320637951
My all time favourite game.
>>320641078
>>320639627
Genthreetards gonna tard.
>>320640872
>implying Cree Summers normal voice isn't hot as fuck
>>320642990
it's ok to be underage, just don't admit it anywhere
>>320637951
While I liked RE4, I have to agree. It was the game that sent the franchise to shit.
It was also a shitty game. Fun nevertheless.
>>320643375
Here's your (You)
21 year olds who feel adult because they can finally drink when their mom is out.
Don't bother replying, this is embarrassing.
>>320643637
Here's your reply.
Reminder that this is the game that killed Megaman
Reminder that this is the second best selling Megaman game
>>320639728
It's a good TPS, it just isn't a good Max Payne game.
>>320639008
>For as much shit as Skate got
what? there was a notable group of people who didn't like skate?
![Cataclysm_Cover_Art[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/namTsnJ.png "Cataclysm_Cover_Art[1].png")
Sure it's an expansion but I'd like to argue that the game changed enough for Cataclysm to be seen as its own game.
>>320644498
I really feel like the decline of WoW was the ToC patch in WotLK
>>320644645
I know, but that doesn't follow the thread rules since it's merely a patch.
>>320644797
Fair enough. Rip WoW. ;-;
>>320639842
>strangers wrath wasn't fucking awesome
try again
halo 4, cod mw3, assassins creed 3 (story is only interesting in the first), bioshock 2 bc infinite jumped the shark, brawl, battlefield 3, dragon age 2, skyrim
>>320638837
this desu senpai
Fuck the controller changes and fuck not allowing women fight in the same matches as men.
>>320644241
Literally stop breathing.
>>320639627
Yeah Absolution was a pile of poofdawg shit
>>320644645
WotLK launch was already its decline, Ulduar 3.1 just spiked it.
>>320636168
FUCK YOU American Wasteland was GOAT and you know it.
>>320636168
>>320647489
fuck off dumb frogposter
>>320640946
>ODST
>Not Reach
Though I do get it since they took out dual wielding.
>>320646916
Even though Wrath was my favorite expansion, the game declined in Wrath. Which was exactly when Activision who bought them in July 2008 had enough time to stick their cock in Blizzard's ass, its funny how many people say that Sunwell was the last good raid. The final raid released before Blizzard was bought out
>>320642885
nice meme
>>320638260
>Diablo 3
But RoS fixed almost all the launch issues and the game just continues to get better after every update. IDK if I would say its better than D2: LoD, but I admittedly can't set the nostalgia factor of D2 aside.
>>320641582
>max speed is now sprinting
>really bad stealth gameplay
>cloak is fucking long
>urban jungle isnt a jungle at all
>very annoying shooting galleries with a place which just shits out more ammo
>oversized guns that sound powerful but dont do damage
>armor mode being fucking godmode
>we wont base it on consoles
>"press start" before day1 patch
>the story going full shit
I heard the book they made with it was actually kinda fun
>>320644308
No, Skate was literally top tier and no one actually hated it. That anon is an idiot.
First game was nice, second game improved a lot. 3rd game onward was just more of the same
>>320646916
As much as Wrath was the best point in time the casualized aspects they introduced meshed with the hardcore, it was the certainly tipping point where everything just got worse and worse as patches and expansions came.
>>320646478
shut up
>>320647701
you mean super paper mario, right?
>>320639049
I like what you have to say about the series but I really liked THUG2 and THAW.
That being said, though, I really love skate and can still only play it to this day. THPS series just feels so awkward in comparison.
>mfw I played THAW on 360 for years, made a shit ton of friends, there were lots of clans and we were all cool with each other.
It was a small community and it was the fucking best, this is the only reason why THAW was the best one for me.except thug2 was the best one
>>320649671
i feel you, i grew up with 3 so that's the best one for me.
tony hawks largely tend to be about nostalgia.
BTW. is new need for speed good? PC player here
>>320653389
No.
>>320636168
Ay man, I loved AW. Not as much as THUG, but far more than THUG 2
If the Tony Hawk games kept going in the direction AW was going, they could have lived on.
>>320638282
>THAW
>Amazing covers
All of them except two or three were total shit
>>320639008
I cannot think of anyone that disliked SKATE.
Tony Hawk was a totally different kind of game.
>>320653389
>not this
>>320637951
It wasn't a bad game at all, but yes it caused the downfall of the series
>>320653389
I was one of the 10 people who legitimately enjoyed this game
Literally killed the entire series.
Than it got a new part with the serial numbers filed off that became its own franchise which quickly went to shit.
>>320654698
Me too
>>320654708
at least it's fun with community patches
>>320646916
Ulduar is excellent though
Following it up with TotC was the point where they killed WotLK
>>320654581
if they would have let you keep the same controller lay out options as need for speed underground 2, things would have been fine.
also
fuck nitro, never liked it.
>>320643880
fuuuuckiung grinding bullshit and backtracking fuck that game also fuck that stupid theme park
>>320651117
3 was the best one because cruise ship was the best level
>>320637682
Stop being a little bitch. There's nothing wrong with this game.
>>320639540
Right. We should all play undermeme, then
>>320636168
American Wasteland was weird but it was alright. The open world stuff was at least interesting, and the BMX shit was surprisingly good.
Project 8 was the downfall, man.
>>320636168
not only was it garbage, it killed the series on the spot.
>>320639008
>Not being able to play both Skate and TH
There's a time for doing 360 flips to fs crooked grind on a bench, and a time for doing mctwists over helicopters.
They're both great in their own ways.
>>320656714
>>320639680
>>320637682
I play this more than i play borderlands 2.
Both have its pros and cons but the pre-sequel is still my favorite, even though it has some atrocious shit on it.
Replaying right now as Baroness and one shotting everyone because i dropped 2 legendaries on a single run. Her sniper tree is puser strong.
>>320643880I liked it. I liked all of the MMBNs though aside from 5
>>320657561
borderlands post 1 is awful, 2 has some nice set peices i admit but the entire gameplay went downhill, how devs find it acceptable to actively nerf items in a co-op game is mind boggling not to mention the bullet sponge enemies and pretty much requirement to use legendaries which you have to farm for for hours because the drop rates are retarded
>>320657207
Who the fuck even plays these games? i knew like one wigger i went to school with that played the 50cent games and claimed blood in the sand was gaming perfection.
>>320644241
>>320658501
ill agree on that, the borderlands loot system is utterly retarded and mostly of the guns are incredibly unappealing, i really fucking hate when i get a tediore or a weapon that consumes 3 shots on a 4 shots weapon and assault rifles are terrible in general. I still hope they get back on track with borderlands 3 because they nailed the level design in BL2 and they did a extremely good job with the charactrs in borderlands the pre sequel.
A game with BL1 loot system + BL2 area design + BLTPS character design would be pretty much the perfect game.
>>320657561
that stuff isn't really said in the game, right?
>>320660797
its all in game dialog mate, all in which nis said by the very first character you meet besides jack himself.
>>320658860
they were pretty fun, the gameplay was pretty solid in Fight for New York. It's probably the one and only game I ever made a black person in
![halo_amazon_main1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/02lx3yd.jpg "halo_amazon_main1[1].jpg")
It still hurts, family.
>>320661485
cuk
>>320648819
D2LoD is better by default due to how characters aren't gear dependent, since stats are distributed by the player.
Characters in D3 depend entirely on gear, and the gear isn't as fun as it was in D2. You'll never find a piece of gear that raises the dead in D3.
>>320638837
>someone else both played and enjoyed these, and agrees on where it went bad
LONDON
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>>320638939
AW drew on way too long, had a terrible cast, had a garbage-ass soundtrack, and had tiny ass levels streamed together to give an "open world" illusion.
>>320658860
Def Jam Fight for NY was GOAT
Last good Call of Duty.
>>320638695
Underground was a combination of all the best things about the THPS series up to then.
>awesome mishmash of hip-hop / funk / rock / metal / punk / rap
>huge levels with variety
>create-a-trick
>character editor allowed custom face image importing (only possible on PC version anymore)
>unlimited free roam between mission objectives
>scattered objective NPCs that made you explore the map
>secret tapes unlocked classic levels
>fun challenges
>still held that fun arcade-style that made THPS games great
>>320638868
>skate topped THPS
>skate2 was the best shit ever
>EA in their greedy splendor decides to milk it yearly
>ruins the series with skate3, which offered nothing new aside from being a quick cashgrab with a youtube feature
>stops because they can't accept they fucked up releasing the same game with a different number, and assume its nobody wants them anymore
I'd love a skate4.
>>320662593
That's pretty cool it has method man in it. What was the gameplay like? just beatin niggas up or hwat?
>>320636168
it was the last good tony hawn
>>320639627
Max Payne 3, while having a stupid story, was an excellent fucking game.
My only gripes were
>not enough New Jersey / New York
>unskippable fucking cutscenes that were proven to not even be needed for the whole load time, seeing as they were totally gone in arcade mode
>never patched in a skip cutscene feature
I wouldn't even be mad if they did a 4th one.
>>320637951
RE4 was fucking great. It retained that horror feel while revolutionizing the whole "over-the-shoulder" perspective, and streamlining the gameplay.
It's only crime was what had happened to the series following it's success, and being re-fucking-released 5 times over.
>>320663108
create your own character, train and beat up rappers.
>>320662931
>I'd love a skate4.
It'll probably never happen.
The devs got rolled in to some generic EA studio and are making mobile games last time I checked.
Skate 3 was the worst in most regards which was a shame because the park editor was pretty good.
>>320640059
Blacklist was pretty good.
Shame the ops missions are so fucking frustrating to solo.
>>320663329
I'd love a fucking modern day version of this.
>getting to pound Young Thugger into the dirt, along with QUan
YES
PLEASE
>>320655484
Reading comprehension you dummy.
Ulduar spiked a high point for WoW because it was that fucking good, but people could already smell the shit from WotLK launch when we went from motherfucking Sunwell to casualized Naxx and easy as fuck single-boss raids followed by long patch gaps.
>>320663429
Skate 3 wasn't bad at all, what didn't you like about it?
>>320642885
No seriously what the fuck were you think nintendo
>Stamina bar
>Reused areas
>Terrible controls
>More handholding than ever before
>LITERALLY empty overworld
>Shit graphics
>Dedicated super mario swimming level
>Ruined all interstory speculation
>Robot Navi is unskippable
>Boring characters
Fuck you nintendo
>>320662617
not true
>>320665449
fuck off
>>320664729
>stamina bar
Was a neat take on handling shields
>Reused areas
Some got nice variety upon returning, others not so much, it was a cheap copout to adding more areas
>Terrible controls
>More handholding than ever before
Fucking agreed
>Shit graphics
Maybe too bright but I liked them
>Dedicated super mario swimming level
There's one in almost every Zelda, it's to be expected at this point.
>Ruined all interstory speculation
Agreed. Was better off when their explanation was that they were all different universes / dimensions.
>Robot Navi is unskippable
Fi was the single worst aspect of the entire game.
>Boring characters
Not really.
SS was overall pretty mediocre though. Caused me to lose all hype for future Zelda titles. Couldn't even be bothered to even find interest in the new one.
>>320641084
I honestly really liked reach, it was halo 4 that killed the series for me. That's when it stopped being halo
>>320666143
same
That's a nice IP you've got there, lets make a sequel.
>>320664561
It's not that it's bad, there's a lot of features I really like in it, but removing the open world and splitting it into 3 sections ruins the flow of the game, as well as the map being shit in general, and I can't deal with that.
Also the soundtrack is fucking awful.
>>320665809
He's right though.
the black ops series is great.
Get mad
>>320640946
But that's not Halo 3, my man
>>320638310
American Wasteland is the best of the series though. Project 8 was probably more of a downfall but it was still an okay game
