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17 years later, a new Baldur's Gate expansion
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>Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear, the Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition expansion that was announced in the summer, is set to come out in early 2016. The launch window was revealed in a Dragon+ interview with Beamdog boss Trent Oster, in which he also explained that it was originally envisioned as just a small, inexpensive piece of DLC that was intended to be released ahead of Baldur's Gate 2 Enhanced Edition.

>"It grew in scope and we realized we were tight on time and needed to put more effort into Baldur’s Gate II ahead of its launch, so Dragonspear went on the backburner," Oster said. "When we came back and re-examined it had become a fifteen-hour expansion. At that stage it was still going to be DLC, although for a little more money."

>Writer Amber Scott added that the expansion was "too crowded" with quests and characters by that point, so the decision was made to expand it with additional dungeons and open-world areas. As a result, Siege of Dragonspear now clocks in at around 35 hours, according to Oster, "if you play the critical path and don't do much besides."

>The story still bridges the gap between the two Baldur's Gates with the tale of Caelar Argent, the Shining Lady, who's leading a mysterious crusade out of the northern regions of Faerun. Scott explained that one of the expansion's key features will be the addition of large-scale combat, which will enable players to take part in "giant battles" alongside groups of allies.

>It will be possible to play Dragonspear with a brand-new party, although Scott said it will likely be more "emotionally impactful" if you import your group from the first game. Either way, a copy of the Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition will be required to play. Some minor but useful-sounding changes to the user interface are also on the way, although they'll be patched into the Enhanced Edition games with or without the Dragonspear expansion installed.
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>>320589841
WE
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>another old shit remake
gaming is so dead
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>>320590024
reply
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>>320589841
>sale of roms as brand new games
>remasters and remakes
>expansions of old games like for AOE2 or Postal 2

What next? Are they going to reopen arcades?
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Old games getting expansions is a really weird turn for the industry.
Well, I won't say I dislike it, partially because I'd much prefer games get expansions over DLC. Maybe this trend will continue and convince devs of new games to go back to expansions.
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Their original content was pukeworthy in BG1 and 2. And now a whole "35 hours" of original donut steel Beamdog content
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>>320590160
History always repeats itself
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>mfw I literally just started playing Baldur's Gate again

Nice.
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That's actually pretty good news
Still don't get what they plan to do with levels
Do they plan to freeze XP gain or something?
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>>320590658
>That's actually pretty good news
no, no it's not you shit eating retard. Gaming slowing down to an halt and then literally going back is basically it's ultimate defeat.
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>Demons Souls expansion
>broken archstone DLC

>Wind Waker expansion
>cut content restoration

I wouldn't even be surprised at this rate
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>>320590160
Postal 2 Paradise Lost was pretty damn good. RWS has still got it, which makes the Postal 3 situation even more baffling.
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>>320590787
Ill play this any day over that fucking shit in the drain that was PoE
Kill yourself my man
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>>320590787
you have to be 18 to post here, the direction gaming is going is so bad going back is for the better
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>>320590787
Oh get a fucking grip. This doesn't mean anything except an old game I like is getting an expansion that I can choose to buy and play. Jesus fuck, you autist.
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>>320589841
>new expansions to decades-old games

What a time to be alive.
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>>320590787
going back 17 years and grinding to a halt is a pretty fucking good fate for videogames desu senpai
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>>320590787
>implying the video game industry in its current state doesn't need to suffer an ultimate defeat.

Baldur's fucking Gate is getting an expansion in 2016.
There is enough renewed interest in the game to warrant new content on an ancient— LITERALLY ANCIENT—game engine.
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>expansion for a game thats older then half of the people on this website
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>>320590160
google Round 1
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>>320589841
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>>320589841
Why do people like this shit again?
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>>320591187
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>>320591290
Muh waifus or some shit
I played a BG game for like 5 minutes
Combat was hot garbage
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>>320591346
Zdeňka Podkapová
nostalgia fap
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>>320591290
Because dungeons & dragons type games are fun.
And people have different opinions.
Weird. I know.
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>>320590160
>sale of roms as brand new games
Has anybody checked the recent FF5 and FF6 ports to see if they're not running with bluestack?
That's an android emulation software.
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>>320591290

Go back to your pasta nigger.
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>Beamdog
I still want to play it and hope the new class will be fun
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>>320591568
Oh please fucking God tell me this is fake.
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>>320591360
BG2 is awful as a waifu game.
>MUH WINGS
>MY HUSBAND IS DEAD oh well let's fuck you sexy abomination
>Hi I'm a complete bitch, and if you try to fix me I'll get killed at the end
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>>320591568
>I'm a writer
>I don't care if it's forced
alright
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>>320591568
Holy shit what the fuck
Did she write that Dorn faggot?
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Hope some day we will have another Might & Magic in style of 6 and 7.
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>>320591641
>MUH WINGS
Jesus christ I hated Aerie so much
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>>320591568
If you have to consciously add diversity you're a terrible writer.
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>>320591641
>epic level cleric
>can't cure poison

Bioware was always shit
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>>320591568
Dropped
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>>320591837
she gets better, especially in ToB

her tactical growth is equal to her character growth

shit at first

godly by the end, especially her romance ending with your kids end up going on an adventure that passes the scope of yours
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>>320591874
Isn't cure poison a first level cleric spell in DnD ?
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>>320592226
>>320591874
Yeah, and she's a drow too - an exiled one as that, are you gonna tell me she isn't prepared for one of the most common ways drows kill each other?
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>>320592226
I don't know. My D&D group never had a Cleric because that shit's gay. We always chugged potions.
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>>320592317
>clerics are healers meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apro94getuc
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>>320590928
I thought Postal 3 was made by some random Ukranian dev? And that's why it was at best questionable?
Dunno why that happened, but that's what I heard.
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>>320592468
Yeah, I'm saying it's crazy that RWS thought they needed to outsource Postal 3 when they're clearly up to the task of continuing Postal.
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>>320589841
HOL UP
>http://www.shsforums.net/topic/27275-the-ranger-rap/
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>expansion in a story-focused made by someone who had absolutely nothing to do with the original game and has no other noteworthy credits
>paying money for what is literally a mod

Why would anyone be excited for this?
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>>320593990
Because piracy is always an option.
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>>320591568
I don't care for that to be honest, if he want to add diversity sure, just do it right and of course don't censor anything from the original game.
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>>320594127
That still doesn't explain why someone would subject themselves to this fanfaction.
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>>320591461
Oh wow, I never knew she was based on Zdenka....holy crap
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>>320590787
I'd take video games that hearken back to the days before you were born.
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>>320594247
>just do it right
She couldn't do it right the first time though
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I remember playing a mod back in 2005 made by some random slavs.
It was a huuuuuuuuuuge fucking fan made mod with a shitload of content including new assets.
The premise of it was this: you are in Halruaa to hunt down a rogue Magehound. It was fantastic. I reloaded a segment of it to pick different dialogue choices and 3 or 4 of them led to completely different resolutions which led me to unique places you couldn't otherwise access had you made a different decision.
The people behind the mod were BTFO when they started charging for it.
Everything related to that was wiped from the internet afterwards. I don't remember the name at all.
I'm not insane, am I? There's no way I imagined this.
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>>320590160
>Are they going to reopen arcades?
I want this
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>>320590160
Don't forget that Age of Mythology is also getting another expansion
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>>320596346
Japan has pretty good arcades
Some are reserved for couples only so you need a gf
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>>320596396
>2016
>Age of Empires
>Age of Mythology
>Baldur's Gate

What the fuck
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>>320590160
Telling you man, this isn't the Millenial generation, it's the Nostalgia generation. Nostalgia items are the new chic thing.
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>>320590160
All of these things objectively improve the present situation in the industry.

The bottom line is that the modern industry is saturated with mediocre offerings and overpriced content. 15, 20, 25, fuck 30 year old games can still compete, not because they were especially great, but because there is nothing as good being released at the present time. Basically /v/ was right, quality in the industry has taken a massive nosedive, and the "retro" and re-release phenomenon is the objective proof of that.

>>320590296
>>320596396
>>320596989

I think it's fucking great. Shit like AoE II getting an expansion is awesome. Software doesn't age, and there's always scope to go back and add to things, especially now with steam sales of older titles.

This isn't even a new thing really. Blizzard understood long term game value a decade ago. Diablo II was still getting patched up to, what, three years ago. And Jesus Christ Starcraft. Original players literally had grandchildren and they were still supporting it.

And it's going to stay like this until devs learn to step up again. Honestly it's not that hard.
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>>320597224
This.

Those fucking Hollywood rejects and fanfiction.net autists need to get the fuck out of video games.
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>>320592708
>thought they needed
Im sure the russian mobs money laundring teams argument of why it needed to happen was very eloquent.
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BG2 is pretty dated in many aspects graphically.

Its going to be very weird releasing a new game in IE when something like POE came out.

Its going to be further weird in how it will unbalance BG2 if you import characters.
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>>320590881
I would enjoy those
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>>320589841
>chock full of that shitty writing and 2edgy4u characters that dont fill the original baldurs gate at all

no thanks. bg complete saga with tutu and bg 2 is the way for me. the "enhanced editions" are shit
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>>320596487
can i go with my daki?
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>>320589841
NOBODY
GIVES
A
SHIT
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>No cheevos
>No buy

I'm 100% serious.
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>>320592226
slow poison (cures low level posions) is level 2 and the spell to cure high level poisons comes later. slow poison is still useful on them as it slows the damage so you can heal through it easier.
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>>320590160
Companies are so devoid of of ideas that they're revisiting and releasing content for their old successful games, rather than make new games.

Or maybe they've paid attention to Doom, finally. 22 years, still going strong on the back of constant stream of user generated content and still better than most FPS games today.
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>>320597752
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>>320591290
No idea. I imagine it's just some D and D shiteaters who enjoy dirt aesthetics and abysmal combat.
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>>320597752
you can buy chettos at any store underage
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>>320589841
wasnt sawyer converting a bunch of shit he took from interplay when they canceled bgiii into a standalone mod
what happened to that
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>>320591490
>Dungeons and Dragons games
>fun

So is getting laid, but you wouldn't know anything about that.
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>>320597867
>lore
>100
What the fuck, only a bard could do that
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>>320598036
>getting laid is fun
good joke anon
i have more fun fucking with girls than getting laid
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>>320591554
Go back to your Dungeon Master's guide, virgin.
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>>320591568
Thank god for 6 player pre-made party at the beginning!
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>>320598097
>i have more fun fucking with girls than getting laid
There is nothing more pathetic than a male playing hard to get.
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>>320598036
>getting laid
>fun
you've obviously never been laid
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>>320589841
>Either way, a copy of the Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition will be required to play.

What did he mean by this?
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>>320598270
It means it's not stand alone so buy the base game, goy
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>>320598270
Just like in the old days.
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>>320598341
>>320598447
I always wanted to try it but fangirls told me enhanced edition is shit

Is it really?

Also can you import saves from standard version?
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>>320598573
Enhanced edition USED to be shit, it's acceptable now.
>can you import saves
Hah, no.
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>>320598573
its shit in that all the stuff they added sticks out like a sore thumb. its all shit that would even make dragons age cringe at it, when the original game actually had good writing and character interaction. the new characters and classes are OP as shit and break the game. it really is shit.

get the complete saga editions from good old gaming (or anywhere you can find em) its just the the original game and the expacs. get easy tutu to run bg1 with the bg2 engine for the best experience, it does require you to get bg2 as well to use.
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>>320598573
>enhanced edition is shit
They're referring to the fanfaction inclusions that are 3 shitty characters. Well, the monk isn't too shitty.

As for EE, it's objectively to the original Baldur's Gate, though some still prefer Tutu for mods
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>>320589841
Is this the same group of faggots that wrote the horrible fan-fiction shit that was added in EE? Because if so it will be a steaming pile of shit.
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>>320598902
>Beamdog
Fucking read, nigger
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>>320598804

>Oh neat they finally added another mage to BG because the choices for a non-evil mage kinda suck
>That romance dialogue
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>>320599223
whats so bad about dynaheir and xan. i think its just more that the evil characters are noticeably stronger like edwin and kagain, to make up for having to maintain a low reputation and missing out on things and shops being more expensive.
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>>320599223
>Hey baby, give me 'sum sugar
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>>320599362
They have shitty school options and lose essential spells.
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>>320599528
i suppose, although i think essential spells is kind of a grey area. current play through i am using them both so it balances out into a rape trail.
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>digging up the corpse of a classic to rape it

Why is this even legal?
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>>320599750
>magic missile
>grey area

yeah right...
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>>320589841
I wonder how progressive will be.
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>>320591874
That's probably some magic poison. Something like a curse.
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>>320599750
>have two mages
>cast protection from fire on each
>target one another with Minor Spell Sequener with two Agannazar's Scorchers
>control both ends of the beam to douse fuckers in a stream of liquid napalm
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>>320599502
>I prefer tsunstun vicky
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>>320600062
I am convinced that BGII was designed in mind to play with 6 sorcerers.
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>>320599954
xan can get by without it, but i will admit its a pretty heavy loss later on. his ability to crowd control will makes up for it.

>sleep weenies
>dire charm anything tough that your melee isnt focusing
>breach
>melfs acid arrow to take care of trolls

its not that hard really, but i will concede that having xan as your only spell caster can make things tricky.
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>>320599954
Yeah you're right, it's absolutely fucking useless beyond level 4.
A mage is a utility master, he can do much better than 2d6 damage and then stand there like a retard for the rest of the turn.
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>>320600062
never tried this, sounds glorious.
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>>320600189
Magic Missile isn't for damage, it's for interrupting enemy spells.
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>beamdog

it will be fucking shit and you know it
why can't they leave this game in peace?
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>>320600178
>breach
>implying there is a scroll of breach in BGI
>implying there are even stoneskined mages in vanilla
>trolls
>only appear in EE content at the dark moon monk hideout
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>>320600189
hey now, try to find a faster way to burn through mirror images at high levels.

>>320600252
you dont run with any ranged son? there are other ways to interrupt spells.
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>>320600252
And just like with damage, better accomplished by flinging darts. Davaeorn is the sole exception, and he teleports around like a spaz anyway.
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>>320600173

That's because they ran into a wall on how to make fights challenging, so they added more mages so you have to counter and breach at the beginning of every fight
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>>320600189
It is useful the entire saga. Sorry for your brainloss.
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>>320589841
Is thay Nelly?
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>>320600305
ill admit, been a while since i played through bg1, but i couldnt imagine playing through it without tutu. i wont touch the EE edition after what i saw only getting to nashkel
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>>320600362
>It is useful the entire saga
Chromatic Orb becomes the objectively more useful spell at 7th level, i.e. right out of the gate in BG2. Magic Missile is FUN the entire saga, and you can light up the night by spamming it after casting Improved Alacrity, but has little use apart from novelty.
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>>320600331
True sight?
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>>320600559
>The target receives a Saving Throw vs. Spell with +6 bonus against all secondary effects
No. Just no.
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Wasn't MCA supposed to be the lead writer on this?
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>>320600771
>doom
>greater malison
>archer's -2 to save on called shot
>enemy now breaks even on a level 1 spell that can cause instant death
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>>320600771
when the damage from level 1 spells becomes negligible i would rather have the chance of paralyze up to chance for instant death.

>>320600762
i feel silly now, i need to read the spells better it seems.
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>>320600858
Scratch that, -2 on a level one spell to kill shit in one go.
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>>320600771
>what are save penalties
>a little more damage is more useful than a potentially paralyzed target

Your mage is neither a primary damage dealer nor a dedicated spell disruptor. Also if you solo'd a kensai/mage and called that playing the game, just get the fuck out.
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>>320600876
Keldorn is a good party's best friend

Free true sight and dispels.
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I guess this is the BG thread.

Will I have lots of trouble with a single class kensai in BG2? I don't want to scrap my character from BG1EE.

Are there any good neutral or good spellcasters in BG2?
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>>320601189
>Will I have lots of trouble with a single class kensai in BG2?
Just have Minsc tank and abuse protection spells and you'll be okay.
>Are there any good neutral or good spellcasters in BG2?
Aerie by virtue of being a cleric/mage
Jan is a fan favorite but illusionist is the worst mage school
Nalia actually sort of sucks but she's good-aligned through and through
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>>320601456
>illusionist is the worst mage school
you spelled invoker wrong
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>>320601456
didnt jan have that badass crossbow tho?
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>>320589841
>Yet another money-squeezer from old vidya
Look, nobody is saying those games were bad or anything, but it's like the industry is putting on the nostalgia glasses and saying "Hey, remember how great it was back in the day, just don't look at all the shit we are pulling now in the marketing and how this nostalgia is another jump on your money".

Fuck this constant remaking, reworking, redesigning, repacking and reselling. Seriously, vidya industry, get your shit together.
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>>320598573
I own both the EE and Orignals of both games, and i´ve used the EE to play the last few times. More faster than modding stuff.

Just avoid the 3 new companions they added.
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>>320601547
The crossbow was bretty gud. Eventually it would get replaced, but it's a hell of a lot better than the shitty sling or darts you'd give another mage early on.
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>>320596989
>2016
>a Clinton and a Bush running for the White House
welcome to the year of what the fucks.
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>>320601981
Is there any way to remove them from the game for good? I'm sick of seeing Dorn at the Friendly Arm and outside of the Radiant Heart. I'm sick of that tumblr bitch interrupting me in Bereghost and the Bridge in Amn. I'm sick of Rasaad punching the fucking air in front of a bunch of peasants and randomly beating the shit of one in Trademeet.

Oh and fuck that nigress vampire mary sue. They introduce a qt 3.14 suttering autist with a good portrait only to have her life essence drained by a goddamn creole voodoo vampire
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>>320590160
nostalgia sells
its what /v/ wants judging by what fags here think of modern games.
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>>320602108
CAN'T
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>>320590552
You need EE of BG1, though. It's the only version compatible with the upcoming expansion.
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>>320602068
meant for >>320601652 obviously
but that's debatable. I'd rather have necromancy, you'd rather have muh charms
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>>320602390
Muh charms > Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting
Then again...
>horrid wilting
>drains the water moisture of living creatures
>leaves fuckers looking like they were left in a sauna for too long
>old crusty wrinkly skin flaking and peeling off
>puckered lips chaffing and breaking apart
>entire body cracks open revealing a sickly thin layer of pink dermis, veins a languid purple hue
>collapses under the weight of meat bags
>churns into a pile of fleshy and bony goop
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>>320602226
Just kill them if you're that autistic
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are they gonna do "enhanced" editions of the icewind dale games? i have a feeling they wont because you make your party so you cant have horribly written forced homo characters to recruit.

either way those are next on my to buy list along with both the magic carpets on good old gaming.

>implying ill have time to play them all when i know my bro in law got me xenoblade chronicles X for xmas
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>>320601189
Nah, you're good but are you sure you can't dual him? Pure warriors gets boring after a while
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>>320602826
IWD1 has already been enhanced. IWD2 is not on the menu so far mainly because it kinda uses 3E. Kinda.
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>>320591514
FF6 uses SNES9X
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>>320602826
Icewind Dale 1 already got an EE. Same shit as BG, new kits and spells, just no party members to recruit and doesn't appear to have any cruddy new NPC content otherwise.
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>>320602826
>are they gonna do "enhanced" editions of the icewind dale games?
There's already one, no homo character but a story mode where you can't die, also more difficulty option like insane spawn with normal damage and no bonus xp
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>>320602826
IWD1EE actually got good treatment, buggy launch aside. They actually restored missing quests and shit.
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IWD:EE was one of the few purchases I made in the last 5 years that meant a damn
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>>320602983
> also more difficulty option like insane spawn with normal damage and no bonus xp
That actually sounds pretty good. And of the infinity engine cRPGs, IWD1 was the one that most needed a makeover.
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>>320603078
Heart of Winter made IWD run on the BGII engine, but you're still right.
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>>320602935
>>320602983
>>320603010


hmmm i might actually go for EE when i pick up icewind dale again then.

thanks for the speedy replies this early in the morning /v/
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>>320603110
Since when is that not Infinity Engine, or at least a fork of it? Enlighten me.
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>>320603119
>implying it's morning
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>>320603221
Eh, well Infinity 2.0 I guess.
There is a stark difference between BG and BGII
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Even if it's shit I still really like the idea of old ass games getting expansions.
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>>320603078
I think it's also the only one so far that actually got a makeover. They replaced portraits and some art like maps with higher resolution versions.
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anyone care to post those dialogues frm the enhanced edition to stop me from being hyped

i need my rage to be fueled
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>>320603481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r77i_5McUao
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>>320603119
>/v/ discussing video games
>all out brawl and shitflinging
>/v/ discussing Baldur's Gate & co.
>gentlemanly British parliament
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>>320602613
How many Horrid Wiltings could you store in a Chain Contingency again?
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>>320603287
i guess your on the other side of the pond then, sun just came up over here.
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>>320603547
it's all about the time of day.
there aren't many americans on at this time of day, so it's more civilized.
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>>320603542
It pisses me off they didn't even bother to match the art style of new characters' portraits.
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>>320590160
pachinko version!
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>>320603565
3
Then immediately cast CC again and load up another 3
That's 32d8 damage at level cap
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Stop talking about this sjw piece of shit drivel you fucking retarded faggots. Literally nobody gives a fuck about some obsolete crappy dungeon and fags clone
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>>320590787
>being this autistic
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>>320596346
>he hasn't been to an arcade bar
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>>320603786
Yup.
Chain Contingency with three Horrid Wiltings set to trigger on enemy sighted was fun.
DRAIN EVERYONE'S BODILY FLUIDS!
TRULY A SPERM WYRM!
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friendly reminder to have your clerics cast holy strength before you level them up. also barbarian beserk probably works the same way with the constitution buff
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>>320603825
>he never played LAN with his bros
>he never did a blind ToB run with his bros
You were a loser then and you're a loser now.
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>>320603892
>holy strength
lol
Also, Clerics don't benefit from CON bonuses past 16
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>>320603941
Says the guy playing some shitty looking bioware "rpg" crap. How much do they pay you to shill their dead shitty game and it's agenda?
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>>320603941
ignore it
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>You can literally roll just 1 hp each level up
That's fucking retarded, actually. RNG can literally break your character no matter what you do. It's alright to roll for companions, but not as the pc
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>>320604026
>some shitty looking bioware "rpg" crap
It's literally Bioware, you turbonigger mongolese cuck.
Also, fuck the SJW content I just wanna try out the new Shaman class
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>>320604000
good to know actually. im using branwen currently and noticed she got more hp on level up when i casted holy strength before i leveled.

had i made my own i suppose it would be a moot point as i would have at least 16 con.
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>>320604108
pretty sure there was a game option to enable max HP on level up, which there was no shame in choosing because like you said, RNG. and everyone was already savescumming anyhow.
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>>320604201
This

Playing core rules on a campaign that encompasses several character levels subject to RNG is more than hardcore.

NWN does it best: max HP for a few levels, then anywhere from 80 to 100% max HD bonus afterwards
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Let's be honest, if the content they've already made is any example, this expansion is going to massively suck.
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>>320604123
>Shaman class
Mah nigga, have they said anything more about it? From what i heard it's a kind of druid that can summon ghost and shit
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>>320604328
Definitely going to have a summoning gimmick which makes me concerned about the 6 summoned minion cap
>playing vanilla BG
>Wand of Monster Summoning
>12 hobgoblin archers
>24 wolves
>12 gnolls
>Animate Dead
>18 skeleton warriors

The lad version of me could only beat Sarevok this way
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>>320589841
>The story bridges the gap between the two Baldur's Gates
Literally nobody cares. Especially when the ending will be just lel suddenly a level 30 sorcerer comes and kidnaps your entire party
Not to mention there are characters who you just know will die during the start of BG2 so it's worthless getting any more content for them

Also
>yet another low to mid level shit
D&D is literally only fun from mid to high levels.
This might not be the case in pnp but it sure is in cRPGS especially when you spend 90% of the time in combat and 2e system is pure disgusting shit at low levels where you miss 80-90% of your hits unless you minmaxed and started as a fighter
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>>320604560
It's the opposite in the PnP.
Mid-high is when casters break the entire games and become unstoppable super batmans.
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>>320604560
>having more content for a fun game is bad because i dont care what happens in the story
go be an autist somewhere else please
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>>320600352
The ending of ToB was so fucking frustrating because of this. I still remember my very first playthrough when I got stuck at the end because I had no idea that I'll need THAT many breaches and counterspells on a single fight without the option to rest. I actually managed to beat it by rummaging through all my backpacks and finding a wand of breach, but it was frustrating as all hell.
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>>320604819
The gameplay is the only thing D&D games are good for. If you don't strategize and minmax for optimal builds, then you're playing these games wrong. Nobody ever gave a fuck about BG's overused tropefilled dumb story except kiddies who never read a book before
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>>320604476
What concerns me is the scaling, will the summons still be useful in late bg2/tob? Also the spellbook, low level druid spells are shit
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>>320604560
>D&D is literally only fun from mid to high levels
This is objectively wrong.
At higher levels Clerics, Druids and Wizards break campaigns. That's true for PnP and cRPGs.
>BGII
>fighting a mage
>stoneskin, spell turning, spell trap
>can only dual him with another mage
>until you cheese your magic resistance and just hack away for 12 rounds
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>>320605127
At least in the games they have some level of restriction.
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>>320602108

Nah. Jeb isn't going to win but if you weren't a mouth breathing retard, you'd know that.

But go on being stupid as fuck citing shit like faux news and add to the already shit pool.
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>doom was going to have rpg elements, stats, leveling and all
>decided "wait hol up. what about the CORE gameplay. you can add all this shit,but if its not fun...."
>remove it all
>create doom 1 as we know it, literally define gaming
>now they are broke, forgotten, or work for facebook
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>>320589841
>a fanfiction mod is an "expansion" now

lol fuck off, Beamdog is incompetent as fuck, everything new they've added to these games has sucked.
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>>320605127
>This might not be the case in pnp
>This might not be the case in pnp
>This might not be the case in pnp
Also ibn BG2 fighters are far better than mages.
A character like Korgan can achieve enough saving throws, hp and elemental resists to laugh at anything a mage throws at him, not to mention FAR bigger damage output with Improved Haste and dual wielding
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>>320605127
>can only dual him with another mage
And Carsomyr, Arrows of dispelling, Inquistitor, Dispel magic, traps, any weapons doing elemental damage
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>>320604560
>Korgan
>not dual-wielding Crom Faeyr and Axe of the Unyielding

It's the only true way to hack and smash.
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>>320605272
i never said he was going to win, i just said he was running, you turbonigger.
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>>320605287
That's why the spell Imprisonment was made
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>>320605534
Berserker's rage makes him immune to imprisonement
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>>320605616
Christ I forgot how broken the shit in BGII was.
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>>320605091
DEATH SPELL
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>>320605678
Fuck, the higher level summons better be gated in
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>>320605091
I wish they add some spell from IWD
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>>320605913
IWD is the superior game for casters
>sleep isn't an "I win" spell; monsters wake up after being hit
>burning hands is an actual cone shaped spell
>friends gives additional dialogues (in truth they already exist but since CHA is a dump stat, Friends brings it up and unlocks the dialogues)
>Shocking grasp never misses and does +1 damage per level; maxed level mage does more lighting damage with this than Lighting Bolt
>all those ice spells
>Beltyn's Burning Blood, Dimension Door, Otiluke's Resilient Sphere and Vitriolic Sphere
>Shroud of Flame
>Darts of Bone, Lich Touch, Trollish Fortitude
>Iron Body, Mind Blank
>etc...
Actual, useful spells that can be used in creative ways without being broken like Mislead
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>>320591568
Nigga I haven't seen any of this forced shit and I have played all of their EE games. Besides if someone starts SJW'ing it up, the Baldur's Gate games allow you to kill your own party members, loot their corpses then kick them from the party on a whim.

No essentials here.
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>>320606341
In BGII the wanna be grimdark tryhard edge lord Blackguard tries to seduce your male character and then gets all moody and pissy when you deny him
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>>320606517
...and...and what. you get punished for it? where is the sjw part

guess what, im a straight, while male and ive had this happen to me before. groped me. told him to fuck off. no one turned around and went RENEGADE POINTS
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>>320605913
Escpecially that level two druid spells of whateverthefuck with the tentacles
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>>320606517
It's funny how all the gay character they introduced are evil
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>>320606517
>character gets pissed you rejected his advances
I never understood /v/'s hate towards this when it makes complete sense. Also, he still stays forever in your party and the pissed off dialogue happens only once and everything after it goes back to normal.
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>>320605127
>can only duel him with another mage

That's exactly the way it should be. Also it's not really true in the game.
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Is a druid enough for IWD or should i get a cleric too?
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>>320606635
>>320606753
It's just fucking retarded and trying to do away with tropes for the sake of progressiveness, taking a page from Dragon Age by having a bisexual half-orc evil antipaladin. It's fucking ridiculous
>Cassandra, a battle-scarred woman in full plate still has time to apply makeup
>Varrick the beardless dwarf using a crossbow
>the literally who bald elf
So different! So non-conforming! So progressive!
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>>320607046
You sound upset.
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>>320607046
Quit getting mad at video games.
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>>320591568
>they fired dave gross for this.
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>>320607046
okay, first, joan of arc, a real fucking female kight of the old ye times, did that.
secondly, the fuck are the other two points. elves cant be bald? drawfs cant NOT have beards? the fuck are you on?
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>>320589841
>bridge the gap between 1 and 2
are they retarded? 2 picks up literally immediately after 1
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>bg1 expansion
>still no iwdee

i'm not going back to that shitass bg1 slog for anything. lemme know when there's dungeon crawling to be done.
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>>320589841
>a new expansion for one of the best CRPG series of all time is in the hands of complete retards

I want to get off this ride.
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>>320607046
>a battle-scarred man in full plate still has time to shave, how ridiculous!

This is how you sound.
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>>320607627
>still no iwdee
Are you retarded?
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>>320606517
You have to kill Hexxat and Dorn at first sight.
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>>320607573
>leave Baldur's Gate because townspeople suspect you're a child of Bhaal
>OH SHIT WHOA 25 HOUR ADVENTURE WITH THESE FOUR CHARACTERS, HEY ISN'T ONE OF THEM FROM THE BLACK PITS II?
>OH SHIT NIGGER DRAGONSPEAR CASTLE
>captured by Irenicus' goons shortly after
>begin BGII

Yeah they're retarded
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>>320607680
Probably meant IWDII considering the screenshot
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>>320607673
He can do that literally every time you rest for 8 hours
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>>320607696
Not sure what you're implying, but you return to Candlekeep after the events of BG1 and you get immediately captured by Jon Irenicus.
They're retconning shit.
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>>320607929
>They're retconning shit
That's what I was implying senpai
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>>320607696
>25 HOUR ADVENTURE WITH THESE FOUR CHARACTERS, HEY ISN'T ONE OF THEM FROM THE BLACK PITS II
Wut?
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Dark Alliance 3 fucking when?
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>>320608045
>A skald from the north who inspires his allies with epic tales--as long as the ale keeps flowing.
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>>320608112
>tfw Dark Alliance and Champions of Norath were all the PS2 games I had for a Summer
What happened to the hack n slash genre?
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>>320596346
As millennials settle into their best money making years, and put down their roots, this is a distinct possibility.
We already have smaller towns being gentrificated with local farm co ops, expanded public transportation, and bike lanes. Millennials are already making their presence felt, especially in local communities. Opening an arcade is probably going to be very easy. One could just use modern hardware with fight sticks and assemble the units themselves. This would allow for even greater flexibility, with theme nights.
New fantasy movie being released this week? Let me drag out the D&D beat 'em up on my Steam library, or the rom. The flexibility of not actually owning old arcade units would make a business like that nearly fool proof.

You can make it happen. A bunch of cheap PCs running GGPO, GoG and Steam would be enough.
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>>320608158
>female goblin shaman
>female goblin shaman
>female goblin
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>>320608462
You're literally just describing LAN cafes which have almost entirely died and "gamer bars" which don't do well either.
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>>320608495
the new npcs will be gay
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>>320608623
The archer bitch most certainly looks like a muffmuncher
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>>320607929
Was this ever explicitly stated? Honestly asking.

There is room for a story there if you aren't an extreme autist.
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>>320591290
>default romance choices are all elves of some kind
>While the female characters get stuck with Anomen, who is at least human

Goddamn heretical.
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>>320591641
>not romancing Imoen

no wonder your play experience was shit
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>>320609438
Printing out her BGI picture and giving it a cum tribute doesn't count as a romance
I found out the hard way.
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>>320609664
is there an easy way?
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>>320609438
>wanting to have incestuous relations with your sister
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>>320591514
the steam bubsy is literally on an emulator
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>>320602886
no it doesn't, its a direct ios ff6 port with the shit sprites and everything including the terrible resolution
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>>320609961
i... i don't remember that.
wasn't she just a childhood friend?
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>>320609190
Belmin Gergas tried to tell us all those years ago and we didn't listen.
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>>320610240
II revealed she was also a bhaalspawn but from a different mother
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>>320608894
maybe try playing the games idk pham desu baka
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>>320610453
Awesome meme there faggot.
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>>320608894
>Was this ever explicitly stated
Nope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9N9ddsKg8
If you rest in the dungeon with Imoen in the party, she says that she wants to go back to Candlekeep but can't because it's so different with Gorion gone
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>>320608894
I think the prologue in bg2 implies that some time passed after defeating sarevok
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>>320589841
>playing Baldurs Gate
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>>320606753

It's because of Anders. Literally because of that faggot. He was chill in Awakening, but in 2 you either have to fuck him or he hates you forever and does stupid shit. Bioware never gave you the option to just be friends, and since they're worshipped by the lgbt for their SO PROGRESSIVE inclusion of gays, everyone tries to emulate how they did it for the few fagbucks they actually spend on it.
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